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RothimusPrime Honored By Death	Posted - 2009.06.22 02:39:00 - [61] Edited by: RothimusPrime on 22/06/2009 02:43:43 Originally by: cosmoray Do any investors look at the quality or the risk of what this mutual fund plans to invest in???? I don't believe I have ever stated that the current holdings have anything to do with a plan of investment. Simply what is currently held prior to investors funds being used/invested. Quote: If I look at the portfolio, I see: 1. Reclamation (100M) - new player IPO - high risk 2. FIMD (200M) - BOD has announced closing down, no more divs, won't liquidate for a few months as FIRD has priority 3. Trinity (200M) - can't find this IPO on forum (did I miss something?) - assume high risk 4. BSAC (92M) - excellent 5. Tai**e Kami Bond (20M) - again can't find it - assume high risk 6. CAIDS (200M) - Sophia has good rep here but still a GOON 7. DBANK (500M) - database down, liquid cash gone, manager AWOL Thank you for rebreaking down what has already been stated and adding your personal opinion of each holdings risk. Quote:** You also don't really have a great rep, AND you a DBANK employee. Investors give you money and you only pay 5% per month for what looks like the riskiest portfolio in MD. Everyone bases rep on everything, but when new investments come up wanting to start small to prove themselves the flaming begins about them wanting to gain a rep. It's a catch 22 and no one but the elite w/ "reps" can ever get anywhere. Everyone had to start from the beginning. As for my being a Dbank employee, yes that was disclosed in my business plan. However I have had no more contact or explanation than anyone else. I can't help that I was a part of something that is having issues unrelated to me and out of my control. Every investment is not suitable for every investor. It seems that you would not prefer to be invested in my mutual fund, which is fine. However, I ask that you not post negative opinions after the fact. I would like to guarantee a higher return than 5%, however with the current offers within MD, that is just not possible.
Varo Jan Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.22 03:53:00 - [62] Quote: I believe I did answer the questions, you just didn't like the answers or twisted the answers in order to continue challenging me. I cannot guarantee I can perform anymore than the last or next player to offer an investment can guarantee they can perform. This is meaningless point to bring up. As for the lack of collateral, this was disclosed in my business plan and anyone who invested was aware of it. I feel that this investment choice is not risky, and apparently so do several others. 5% return is more than most offer and that's what I offered from the get go. If anyone would like to cancel their investment, they may do so anytime prior to July 1st. You¦re getting tetchy now. Didn¦t take much, did it? Not a good sign. What I didn¦t like was your assuming that corporate-speak was a substitute for answering a question properly.
RothimusPrime Honored By Death	Posted - 2009.06.22 04:04:00 - [63] Originally by: Varo Jan Quote: I believe I did answer the questions, you just didn't like the answers or twisted the answers in order to continue challenging me. I cannot guarantee I can perform anymore than the last or next player to offer an investment can guarantee they can perform. This is meaningless point to bring up. As for the lack of collateral, this was disclosed in my business plan and anyone who invested was aware of it. I feel that this investment choice is not risky, and apparently so do several others. 5% return is more than most offer and that's what I offered from the get go. If anyone would like to cancel their investment, they may do so anytime prior to July 1st. You¦re getting tetchy now. Didn¦t take much, did it? Not a good sign. What I didn¦t like was your assuming that corporate-speak was a substitute for answering a question properly. Fair enough on the "Corporate Speak". I'm not sure why defending myself and my product is a "bad" sign. Time will prove my product, my ability, and my sincerity.
Jin Nib	Posted - 2009.06.22 07:30:00 - [64] Well Varo your interest in this matter is touching considering you've got nothing in it. I truly appreciate your heartfelt concern. The fact is the shares have all been sold so clearly he's convinced the people he needed to in order to start up. Your grilling at him now, seems spiteful and un-warranted and, more to the point, completely pointless. At this point I am quite happy with how the fund has been presented, and with my dealings with Rothimus, which little though there has been, have been professional and to the point. Saying he is un-trustworthy because he's never had a chance to prove his trustworthiness, so he shouldn't be trusted, is a logical fallacy. As Rothimus has pointed out, time is the only thing that will tell in either case, so throw in or GTFO. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.22 11:22:00 - [65] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 22/06/2009 11:25:24 I wouldn't invest in this guy if I were you. Black Sun Empire
RothimusPrime Honored By Death	Posted - 2009.06.22 14:05:00 - [66] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 22/06/2009 12:51:11 I wouldn't invest in this guy if I were you. You're entitled to your opinion.
Dzil Caldari Flux Technologies Inc	Posted - 2009.06.23 17:26:00 - [67] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 22/06/2009 18:40:06 I wouldn't invest in this guy if I were you. As for Gabriel Virtus... he's a known Riethe alt, don't get too attached to him. Originally by: Gabriel Virtus I am still waiting confirmation of DBank assets and what your involment is with them. When is the isk due again? I skimmed the wall-o-text, but couldn't find it. <3 -GV Yes, he picked up the habit of posing as an interested investor and questioning his own offering in regards to info deliberately left out, thus drawing more attention. A recent example from the top of my head: Originally by: EVEHel**eriousBusiness So GinGingle, is it true that IGBank Alec is underwriting this offering? Found here So now Gingingle is Reithe? ... Funny too, I had thought EVEhelp was your alt for a while... I need a reference guide :P
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services Novus Ordo Mundi	Posted - 2009.06.23 17:59:00 - [68] Originally by: Jin Nib Well Varo your interest in this matter is touching considering you've got nothing in it. I truly appreciate your heartfelt concern. The fact is the shares have all been sold so clearly he's convinced the people he needed to in order to start up. Your grilling at him now, seems spiteful and un-warranted and, more to the point, completely pointless. At this point I am quite happy with how the fund has been presented, and with my dealings with Rothimus, which little though there has been, have been professional and to the point. Saying he is un-trustworthy because he's never had a chance to prove his trustworthiness, so he shouldn't be trusted, is a logical fallacy. As Rothimus has pointed out, time is the only thing that will tell in either case, so throw in or GTFO. I agree! I think it's just plain dumb that some people are grilling him for what reason? Dbank? by the looks of it because he was some what or some how involved in Dbank he getting grilled? sounds to me there some hate growing over nothing. Now people coming on here just trolling and say don't invest then STFU and move along! you haven't invested and it's taken you how many day's to troll? = fail! Roth a good lad! so let him prove he no scammer. Trinity Corporate Services
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services Novus Ordo Mundi	Posted - 2009.06.23 18:00:00 - [69] Edited by: northwesten on 23/06/2009 18:04:56 Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 22/06/2009 18:40:06 I wouldn't invest in this guy if I were you. As for Gabriel Virtus... he's a known Riethe alt, don't get too attached to him. Originally by: Gabriel Virtus I am still waiting confirmation of DBank assets and what your involment is with them. When is the isk due again? I skimmed the wall-o-text, but couldn't find it. <3 -GV Yes, he picked up the habit of posing as an interested investor and questioning his own offering in regards to info deliberately left out, thus drawing more attention. A recent example from the top of my head: Originally by: EVEHel**eriousBusiness So GinGingle, is it true that IGBank Alec is underwriting this offering? Found here pathetic also point out this is RothimusPrime not Riethe. so my question is Do you have is API key? because I don't see any proof other silly comments? the good old saying applys here! proof or STFU! link is no proof! Trinity Corporate Services
Dzil Caldari Flux Technologies Inc	Posted - 2009.06.23 18:43:00 - [70] Just to add on, still fully anticipating payment by the original timeline of Fri, Jun 28, with official investment to begin on July 1st.
Gidlian	Posted - 2009.06.23 20:51:00 - [71] Gabriel Virtus, Question for ya---you just **ed you missed out on this? You have brought NO creditable proof that this is a scam, NO creditable proof that this is NOT a good investment. The only thing you have done is bring up how this is an investment that comes with risks, well the last time I checked ALL investments come with risk!! I missed out on this investment and you dont see me ***ing or belittleing the investor, get over it and move on.
Dzil Caldari Flux Technologies Inc	Posted - 2009.06.23 21:11:00 - [72] Originally by: Gidlian Gabriel Virtus, Question for ya---you just **ed you missed out on this? You have brought NO creditable proof that this is a scam, NO creditable proof that this is NOT a good investment. The only thing you have done is bring up how this is an investment that comes with risks, well the last time I checked ALL investments come with risk!! I missed out on this investment and you dont see me ***ing or belittleing the investor, get over it and move on. ... Am I misreading where GV invested in this on post 8? ---------------------- Dzil's Corp Sales - 200m for 7+ standings ----------------------
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.23 21:13:00 - [73] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 23/06/2009 21:14:07 Originally by: northwesten link is no proof! You'll have your proof when just one of those I've exposed as Riethe alts will scam. Then, you'll go search for my posts and you'll wish you never invested. Black Sun Empire
Jin Nib	Posted - 2009.06.23 21:36:00 - [74] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 23/06/2009 21:14:07 Originally by: northwesten link is no proof! You'll have your proof when just one of those I've exposed as Riethe alts will scam. Then, you'll go search for my posts and you'll wish you never invested. AS far as I am aware you haven't exposed anyone really, least of all Rothimus or any of his alts (ie the only one in a position to potentially scam here). It would seem the evidence suggest that you are rather fixated on Riethe, leading me to belive that you got scammed in an investment run by him. However I am still rather unclear as to your purpose in this thread? -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
testirania	Posted - 2009.06.23 21:44:00 - [75] Originally by: cosmoray 2. FIMD (200M) - BOD has announced closing down, no more divs, won't liquidate for a few months as FIRD has priority Im wondering a bit where in the announcement from the FIRD BOD you read that FIMD is closing down. They say that they are going to be offering a buyback to the shareholders of FIRD since Quadria has said he will be away for a prolonged time, nowhere is there, as I read it, a mentioning of them closing down. They will give the shareholders of FIRD, beginning with the ones holding the least amount of shares first, a chance of selling their shares back to FIRD for IPO price. If/when all have done that they will offer the same to FIMD shareholders if any want out.
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services Novus Ordo Mundi	Posted - 2009.06.23 21:52:00 - [76] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 23/06/2009 21:34:34 Originally by: northwesten link is no proof! You'll have your proof when just one of those I've exposed as Riethe alts will scam. Then, you'll go search for my posts and you'll wish you never invested. You havent answered my Question have you got the API key? oo look no proof! Trinity Corporate Services
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.23 21:57:00 - [77] Originally by: Jin Nib Originally by: YouGotRipped Originally by: northwesten link is no proof! You'll have your proof when just one of those I've exposed as Riethe alts will scam. Then, you'll go search for my posts and you'll wish you never invested. AS far as I am aware you haven't exposed anyone really, least of all Rothimus or any of his alts (ie the only one in a position to potentially scam here). It would seem the evidence suggest that you are rather fixated on Riethe, leading me to belive that you got scammed in an investment run by him. However I am still rather unclear as to your purpose in this thread? You're entitled to your opinion. Black Sun Empire
Jin Nib	Posted - 2009.06.23 23:01:00 - [78] Originally by: YouGotRipped You're entitled to your opinion. OK thanks. But what I was trying to determine, with far too many words, was what are your point/arguments in a TL;DR format? The reason I am trying to determin this is because the things you have been saying appear to have nothing to do with the OP. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
RothimusPrime Honored By Death	Posted - 2009.06.23 23:32:00 - [79] I have no idea where my thread here has gone. It seems to have gotten extremely off topic. I'm not sure what Yougotripped is trying to to say or point out, as it seems completely unrelated to the mutual fund or myself. On a better note, all is going well with the fund. Everyone who sent their deposits last weekend will be receiving a 1% return on Monday/Tuesday for the roughly 10 days I've been using it. Dzil is the only outstanding depositor, and as he said, he will be depositing Friday.
RothimusPrime Honored By Death	Posted - 2009.06.23 23:34:00 - [80] Originally by: testirania Originally by: cosmoray 2. FIMD (200M) - BOD has announced closing down, no more divs, won't liquidate for a few months as FIRD has priority Im wondering a bit where in the announcement from the FIRD BOD you read that FIMD is closing down. They say that they are going to be offering a buyback to the shareholders of FIRD since Quadria has said he will be away for a prolonged time, nowhere is there, as I read it, a mentioning of them closing down. They will give the shareholders of FIRD, beginning with the ones holding the least amount of shares first, a chance of selling their shares back to FIRD for IPO price. If/when all have done that they will offer the same to FIMD shareholders if any want out. This is also my understanding. I purchased the entire holding of FIMD at a discount, therefore when the time comes and dependant upon the situation, I will most likely sell back for a profit.
Gidlian	Posted - 2009.06.24 01:08:00 - [81] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 23/06/2009 21:34:34 Originally by: northwesten link is no proof! You'll have your proof when just one of those I've exposed as Riethe alts will scam. Then, you'll go search for my posts and you'll wish you never invested. LOL, I have know the REAL LIFE Rothimus for about 3 years now. If he says it, he means it. Oh by the way, I know ALL his alts, and NONE of them are this Riethe you keep speaking of, Is that one of your alts? I see that you have created one here just to annoy everyone but this is fun. I eagerly await the simpleton statement that awaits this post!
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.24 07:01:00 - [82] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 24/06/2009 07:05:54 Originally by: Gidlian Originally by: YouGotRipped Originally by: northwesten link is no proof! You'll have your proof when just one of those I've exposed as Riethe alts will scam. Then, you'll go search for my posts and you'll wish you never invested. LOL, I have know the REAL LIFE Rothimus for about 3 years now. If he says it, he means it. Oh by the way, I know ALL his alts, and NONE of them are this Riethe you keep speaking of, Is that one of your alts? I see that you have created one here just to annoy everyone but this is fun. I eagerly await the simpleton statement that awaits this post! LOL, you CANNOT have known this guy for 3 years because HE IS who I SAY he is. That leaves little doubt as to your identity. 2 posts in MD, first post addressing Gabriel Virtus... You must be suffering from a physical disability, Riethe, otherwise you'd not waste this much of your time. Black Sun Empire
RothimusPrime Honored By Death	Posted - 2009.06.24 15:26:00 - [83] I don't know a Riethe, nor am I him. I know nothing of Gabriel Virtus other than he has decided to invest in my product. Gidlian said he has known the Real Life Rothimus for 3 years, and yes, this is accurate and possible. We have known each other outside of EVE. Why do you insist on trolling my thread?
RothimusPrime Honored By Death	Posted - 2009.06.24 16:23:00 - [84] And the Offering link to James Tundra's offer that Yougotripped provided is unrelated to me other than I am an investor.
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services Novus Ordo Mundi	Posted - 2009.06.24 16:28:00 - [85] Edited by: northwesten on 24/06/2009 16:33:04 Originally by: YouGotRipped LOL, you CANNOT have known this guy for 3 years, because HE IS who I SAID he is. Your coming over a moron or your just a bad troll! Again you have NO PROOF!! where Roth API key? oo wait you don't have it. Another thing don't tell someone like Gidlian you don't know him when you don't know ** your self. Point fingers at people when you don't even have API means you know **! A link to another post means he an alt? dumbest thing I ever here! get real and move on! your wasting your pointless efforts.
Jin Nib	Posted - 2009.06.24 17:35:00 - [86] I think it's safe to say that YouGotRipped is the MD boards resident crazy homeless person. It is slightly disturbing that he decided this particular doorstep to sleep in, I guess we'll just have to step over him and hold our noses as we do so. Perhaps, there is hope that someday he'll come off the drugs and alcohol and start making sense, but until then... Here's hopeing. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
Lecherito	Posted - 2009.06.24 17:36:00 - [87] lol, YGR/AP/LRN and his turrets acting up again it seems. Don't worry, he accuses everyone of being Riethe as part of some inferiority complex he has going. He'll move along when he gets bored. Oh, evesearch his lastest epic scam. Truly an Eve legend to be =P -L
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2009.06.24 20:53:00 - [88] Originally by: Lecherito lol, YGR/AP/LRN and his turrets acting up again it seems. Don't worry, he accuses everyone of being Riethe as part of some inferiority complex he has going. He'll move along when he gets bored. Oh, evesearch his lastest epic scam. Truly an Eve legend to be =P -L You're just a normal individual. P.S. At some point I will return to collect my "Rosencrantz". Patience...
Gidlian	Posted - 2009.06.25 04:48:00 - [89] Really, I could not have known him for 3 years? Wow, you are even smaller minded then I gave you credit for. You do relize that REAL LIFE is what is outside that clear stuff called a window dont you. Take a step back from the computer, adjust your panties, and take a walk, smell the flowers and hey heres an idea.....MEET REAL PEOPLE!!! Ready for the next small comment from the small minded. Your turn NEXT!!
Jin Nib	Posted - 2009.06.25 05:41:00 - [90] Edited by: Jin Nib on 25/06/2009 05:41:42 If this thread was a puppy, I'd want to beat it to death with a pipe wrench.

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