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mal1coy
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Posted - 2009.06.20 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: mal1coy on 20/06/2009 16:32:42 so i just moved to an area with tons of angels rats and i just began training matar BS 5 and have heard that this ship should pwn angels.
plan is to do plexes, anomalies, exploration sites.
[Vargur, 0.0 angel pve] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II
100MN Afterburner II X-Large Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II Explosion Dampening Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Cap Recharger II
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L Small Tractor Beam I Salvager II Salvager II
Projectile Ambit Extension II Projectile Ambit Extension II
Warrior II x5 Valkyrie II x5
870 dps(741 turret dps) 492 aktive shield tank 2.29 mins. 43 falloff (46k range with falloff + optimal)
i am pretty sure my dps and tank is ok, but not sure if i got enough range to hit some of the angels(i remember atleast 1 of the angels rats is orbiting at like 50k) you guys think the falloff + afterburner should be albe to handle those few far out angel rats without "loseing to much time on it so better another setup" ?
and allso since it is 0.0 maby switch 1 salvager for a cloak ? |
Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2009.06.20 17:06:00 -
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Sad thing is the Maelstrom can do all of that for a much lower price. Marauder prices are skyrocketing right now. You're better off getting a Maelstrom and spending that extra billion isk pimping it out with some nice faction mods. -- Eventus stultorum magister. |
Lilith Krell
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Posted - 2009.06.20 17:21:00 -
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Fusion is better than EMP against angels... |
mal1coy
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Posted - 2009.06.20 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn Sad thing is the Maelstrom can do all of that for a much lower price. Marauder prices are skyrocketing right now. You're better off getting a Maelstrom and spending that extra billion isk pimping it out with some nice faction mods.
no way you can get a mael to pull out same dps and still have 3 high slots for cloak, tractor beam and salvager.
and thx Lilith Krell ive refitted for fusions ammo, i gained 1.5k optiaml on it :p
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.06.20 19:19:00 -
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No but you can have a mael tank as well and do more dps.
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Traderboz
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Posted - 2009.06.20 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest No but you can have a mael tank as well and do more dps.
I really doubt that. Mael with AC's is nice, but lacks the falloff bonus of the Vargur, which makes AC's actually usable at decent ranges. Whether it's worth the cost depends on the pilot and his wallet. |
Abominable Boogeyman
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Posted - 2009.06.20 19:43:00 -
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if you're looking for more range, for those guys that are way off, use nuclear. angels are weak against mostly #1 explosive #2 kinetic and nuclear does decent damage with good range. |
Galan Undris
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Posted - 2009.06.20 20:02:00 -
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The only rats EMP is "the best" against are EOM and some rogue drones. Most rogue drones take just as much damage from phased plasma though. |
Myrkala
Minmatar Aurora Acclivitous
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Posted - 2009.06.21 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn Sad thing is the Maelstrom can do all of that for a much lower price. Marauder prices are skyrocketing right now. You're better off getting a Maelstrom and spending that extra billion isk pimping it out with some nice faction mods.
Vargur out-damages Maelstrom from 0-45 km with all ammo types, and out-damages the Maelstrom at all ranges using Barrage if you look at the numbers. If you put hit-quality in the picture it will probably not change a lot.
All this with a high re-fire rate and much better tracking, making it better suited for shooting Frigates and Cruiser targets. Meaning less kiting/transversal management allowing you to stay in one spot making big wreck-balls for your salvage vessel to gobble up in a few minutes.
Did I mention it's faster and more agile too? Not to mention if you spend a lot of isk pimping your Maelstrom people will just gank you for your mods.
Your probably just one of those gankers anyway enticing players into fitting stupidly expensive things on their missioning ships.
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Coriander Rinne
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.21 06:10:00 -
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If you have enough money for a 0.0 PvE fit that you'll likely have to replace from time to time, you have enough money to use faction and T2 ammo. Please do so. ---
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