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Kintac
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Kintac on 19/09/2004 09:31:50
Hi,
is there any known legal way/bug/exploit to find a supersafe ? Are supaersafes really safe ?
I thought, supersafes are safe ?
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Kintac
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Kintac on 19/09/2004 09:31:50
Hi,
is there any known legal way/bug/exploit to find a supersafe ? Are supaersafes really safe ?
I thought, supersafes are safe ?
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:32:00 -
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SuperSafespotBuster2003 finds all safespots, even supersafe ones. But Tomb will ban you if you use it.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:32:00 -
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SuperSafespotBuster2003 finds all safespots, even supersafe ones. But Tomb will ban you if you use it.
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Etoile Chercheur
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:34:00 -
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supersafes are just very, very difficult to find. if you're talking about spots made using the "bookmark the whole system and then warp to that" trick, then i have no idea. but if you make a safespot using other midpoint safespots, and your safespot is actually in the system itself, it's still possible for someone to work out where your spot is. all they have to do then is try and replicate it. that's the hard bit.
Midshipman Etoile Chercheur - Logistics Division (M&T) | Hadean Drive Yards
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Etoile Chercheur
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:34:00 -
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supersafes are just very, very difficult to find. if you're talking about spots made using the "bookmark the whole system and then warp to that" trick, then i have no idea. but if you make a safespot using other midpoint safespots, and your safespot is actually in the system itself, it's still possible for someone to work out where your spot is. all they have to do then is try and replicate it. that's the hard bit.
Midshipman Etoile Chercheur - Logistics Division (M&T) | Hadean Drive Yards
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Negotiator
SuperSafespotBuster2003 finds all safespots,.
 
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"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Negotiator
SuperSafespotBuster2003 finds all safespots,.
B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling
"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
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Dukath
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:41:00 -
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yes,no,no,no
Supersafe are made by bookmarking the solarsystem itself and then warping to that spot. Bookmarks are found by triangulating between spots where you can warp to, including the bookmark of the system itself.
Basically if you can warp to a certain spot then someone else can warp to the same spot too. Nothing illegal, exploit or fishy about it.
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Dukath
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Posted - 2004.09.19 09:41:00 -
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yes,no,no,no
Supersafe are made by bookmarking the solarsystem itself and then warping to that spot. Bookmarks are found by triangulating between spots where you can warp to, including the bookmark of the system itself.
Basically if you can warp to a certain spot then someone else can warp to the same spot too. Nothing illegal, exploit or fishy about it.
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:00:00 -
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"supersafes" are quite easy to find, if you bookmark the system and warp to it you go like 400au away, but anybody else who does it can also warp to that point aswell, granted it usually takes a few hours of mwding in a ceptor.
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:00:00 -
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"supersafes" are quite easy to find, if you bookmark the system and warp to it you go like 400au away, but anybody else who does it can also warp to that point aswell, granted it usually takes a few hours of mwding in a ceptor.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:04:00 -
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if u had the exact same setup and both warped to a 400au bm from right next to each other well at full caps in theory u should come out of warp together at the point where both ur caps let u get. in theory.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:04:00 -
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if u had the exact same setup and both warped to a 400au bm from right next to each other well at full caps in theory u should come out of warp together at the point where both ur caps let u get. in theory.
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:11:00 -
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Well...
There is a bug that makes ships appear in your autoscanner and screen so you can see where to aim for, but I just saw it once and can't reproduce it. An alliance mate has already filed a bug petition for that.
Other than that every safespot is traceable, just some are harder than the others. 
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:11:00 -
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Well...
There is a bug that makes ships appear in your autoscanner and screen so you can see where to aim for, but I just saw it once and can't reproduce it. An alliance mate has already filed a bug petition for that.
Other than that every safespot is traceable, just some are harder than the others.
/emote strokes shiny apocalypse found less than a week ago |
Kahn Moquil
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:53:00 -
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Supersafes are pretty safe, but it is possible to get to them with some work and determination. Also depends on the kind of ships you put there. I'm not spending half a day tracking down a parked Stabber, but I'm more than willing to spend that time if it means getting a free battleship...
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Kahn Moquil
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Posted - 2004.09.19 11:53:00 -
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Supersafes are pretty safe, but it is possible to get to them with some work and determination. Also depends on the kind of ships you put there. I'm not spending half a day tracking down a parked Stabber, but I'm more than willing to spend that time if it means getting a free battleship...
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Golgrath
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Posted - 2004.09.19 12:21:00 -
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If you just make a system bm and warp there until your cap runs out then that's not safe. But if you use your system bm to make another safespot then those can be almost safe (not scannable from any planet or the system bookmark warping path).
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Golgrath
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Posted - 2004.09.19 12:21:00 -
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If you just make a system bm and warp there until your cap runs out then that's not safe. But if you use your system bm to make another safespot then those can be almost safe (not scannable from any planet or the system bookmark warping path).
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The Chef
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Posted - 2004.09.19 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Golgrath
If you just make a system bm and warp there until your cap runs out then that's not safe. But if you use your system bm to make another safespot then those can be almost safe (not scannable from any planet or the system bookmark warping path).
Not to mention the fact you can drop BM's while you are warping, or you can continue to warp towards the system BM for an indefinate amount of time. Someone once posted a screenshot of them 2000 AU's from the system. Now that is a SS that you won't find
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The Chef
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Posted - 2004.09.19 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Golgrath
If you just make a system bm and warp there until your cap runs out then that's not safe. But if you use your system bm to make another safespot then those can be almost safe (not scannable from any planet or the system bookmark warping path).
Not to mention the fact you can drop BM's while you are warping, or you can continue to warp towards the system BM for an indefinate amount of time. Someone once posted a screenshot of them 2000 AU's from the system. Now that is a SS that you won't find
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Oralious
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Posted - 2004.09.19 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: MadGaz
"supersafes" are quite easy to find, if you bookmark the system and warp to it you go like 400au away, but anybody else who does it can also warp to that point aswell, granted it usually takes a few hours of mwding in a ceptor.
Actual warping is the only way find safe spots. Microwarping is useless on a well made safe spot IMHO. Here is something to think about.
1 AU = 149,597,870 Km
Lets say you can go 2 km per second with your mwd. (2000 Meters per second)
172,800 Km per day
1 AU = 2 Years, 4 months and 17 days
Things that make you go hmmmm.
Not that it matters after Shiva. Good luck!
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Oralious
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Posted - 2004.09.19 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: MadGaz
"supersafes" are quite easy to find, if you bookmark the system and warp to it you go like 400au away, but anybody else who does it can also warp to that point aswell, granted it usually takes a few hours of mwding in a ceptor.
Actual warping is the only way find safe spots. Microwarping is useless on a well made safe spot IMHO. Here is something to think about.
1 AU = 149,597,870 Km
Lets say you can go 2 km per second with your mwd. (2000 Meters per second)
172,800 Km per day
1 AU = 2 Years, 4 months and 17 days
Things that make you go hmmmm.
Not that it matters after Shiva. Good luck!
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Thanit
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Posted - 2004.09.19 13:59:00 -
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System bookmarks can be found easily enough, but depend on you knowing that someone is there. I dont see people checking every systems system BM to a 400+ AU range. So parking at a 1000+ au range in a system thats very quiet and sees little traffic, has no stations and little use for hunting is pretty damn safe until someone comes along that makes one at the same range +-14 AU. As sson as they know you are there they will find you quite easily.
Making an unfindable far-out safespot from a system bookmark is impossible. You can use it to warp out say 400 AU and then make a new midwarp bm on a vector to another celestial object. The problem is that that vector will not bring you far from the original system bm vector in most cases, and you thus remain scannable form that vector unless you do it real close (say 15-100 au), which makes it impropable you will succeed in staying off scanner if someone really starts searching for a clue as to where you are.
Essentially, taking a big system and making midwarp bm after midwarp bookmark as long as it takes to get a bm thats at least 15 au from any vector between two obejects should give the best result. But even that is traced when someone has done the same and scans from his safe.
safepots should be renamed to hidespots maybe...
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Thanit
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Posted - 2004.09.19 13:59:00 -
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System bookmarks can be found easily enough, but depend on you knowing that someone is there. I dont see people checking every systems system BM to a 400+ AU range. So parking at a 1000+ au range in a system thats very quiet and sees little traffic, has no stations and little use for hunting is pretty damn safe until someone comes along that makes one at the same range +-14 AU. As sson as they know you are there they will find you quite easily.
Making an unfindable far-out safespot from a system bookmark is impossible. You can use it to warp out say 400 AU and then make a new midwarp bm on a vector to another celestial object. The problem is that that vector will not bring you far from the original system bm vector in most cases, and you thus remain scannable form that vector unless you do it real close (say 15-100 au), which makes it impropable you will succeed in staying off scanner if someone really starts searching for a clue as to where you are.
Essentially, taking a big system and making midwarp bm after midwarp bookmark as long as it takes to get a bm thats at least 15 au from any vector between two obejects should give the best result. But even that is traced when someone has done the same and scans from his safe.
safepots should be renamed to hidespots maybe...
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BuRnEr
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kintac
Edited by: Kintac on 19/09/2004 09:31:50
Hi,
is there any known legal way/bug/exploit to find a supersafe ? Are supaersafes really safe ?
I thought, supersafes are safe ?
Hi there kintac, i broke your safespot with my alt (see m0o kill list), your safespot was made from planet 8 and then 360au~ out and i used a cheap frig to do it ( a shuttle would have done it too).
If you whant to be safe use the station next time.
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BuRnEr
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Posted - 2004.09.19 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kintac
Edited by: Kintac on 19/09/2004 09:31:50
Hi,
is there any known legal way/bug/exploit to find a supersafe ? Are supaersafes really safe ?
I thought, supersafes are safe ?
Hi there kintac, i broke your safespot with my alt (see m0o kill list), your safespot was made from planet 8 and then 360au~ out and i used a cheap frig to do it ( a shuttle would have done it too).
If you whant to be safe use the station next time.
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Yolan
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Yolan on 19/09/2004 15:39:01
Originally by: ElCoCo
Well...
There is a bug that makes ships appear in your autoscanner and screen so you can see where to aim for, but I just saw it once and can't reproduce it. An alliance mate has already filed a bug petition for that.
Other than that every safespot is traceable, just some are harder than the others.
/emote strokes shiny apocalypse found less than a week ago
I agree Elcoco, I wish they would fix that. It would be so kewl if you could use your scanner to show you which direction a safespot is in, and if it could narrow it down to a say 5 degrees that would be even better. Oh and heres a though, if it also had some sort of way you could adjust the scanning range it would be awesome
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Yolan
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Posted - 2004.09.19 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Yolan on 19/09/2004 15:39:01
Originally by: ElCoCo
Well...
There is a bug that makes ships appear in your autoscanner and screen so you can see where to aim for, but I just saw it once and can't reproduce it. An alliance mate has already filed a bug petition for that.
Other than that every safespot is traceable, just some are harder than the others.
/emote strokes shiny apocalypse found less than a week ago
I agree Elcoco, I wish they would fix that. It would be so kewl if you could use your scanner to show you which direction a safespot is in, and if it could narrow it down to a say 5 degrees that would be even better. Oh and heres a though, if it also had some sort of way you could adjust the scanning range it would be awesome
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