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Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 19:28:00 -
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This thread is legit. CEI (corp) has been robbed and a considerable amount of the assets belonged the alliance (RZR) from the Querious withdrawal. The thief had perfect timing since it was a 24 hour vulnerable position with everything being counted up and dumped in a couple of hangers that weren't directors only.
The ISK value I can't really comment on even if those figures have been mentioned internally yes.
Sucks but we'll just have to live with it, learn and move on. :( --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Bismaru's Ambition Makes the Mining Mothership losses in the north look 'normal'.
I guess it was a matter of time yes. Drago was a longstanding member and a key player in keeping the corp ticking over during the US TZ every night, we've worked hard to get a 24 hour living corp and he was a key player in that.
We are upset now yes but we'll miss him more than the assets he took and it's regrettable he did this. |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:06:00 -
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This has nothing to do with goons. Just a greedy member that stole from the corp and the alliance, he is totally unaffiliated with goons. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 23/06/2009 20:31:08
Originally by: Bismaru's Ambition Fred0 seems really emotional about this.
Yeah, because compared to other leaders in high profile corps that have been robbed I really take the time to explain what happened and how. :) I'm not particularly emotional about this, more philosophical.
Originally by: Genuinely Windypops If this is true it's hysterical. I bet you regret all those patronising comments about 'well, if you don't treat your members well then you deserve what's coming to you' Fred0.
Yeah, except I never did. You seem to dream up alot of things and accuse me of them even if I've never said them. Is that how alt posting works? |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Genuinely Windypops It's always amusing to look at how the early Fredo responded to the Goons
Yeah, I've fought goons and I thought the Smoske incident was abit over the top. Most of RZR thinks like that since we discussed it and the roots of this whole war a couple of days ago. EVE politics are way more complex than that though and people ally with and fight others for both bigger and more trivial reasons.
Also, thanks for the concern about our culture being absorbed into goons. We're fine and the RZR identity has never been as strong as it is now and I don't think anyone in RZR confuses themselves for anything but Razorites. We brought our own flavour to Delve Mk2 and we've kept it. :) |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Yes it must have been a very complex political decision for you to decide to NAP everyone under the sun and abandon any kind of morals so that you can have an easy life and not stand on your own two feet any more. The sad thing is I actually thing Razor is one of the better NC alliances and Fred0 was actually once a really decent leader.
lmao, dude you'll never get this much mileage out of your trolling again but I take pride in putting in extra effort/explanation during hard times. :) It's one of my drawbacks.
Our blue list has long been the same. We killed Delve with the same alliances we started the endavour with. We didn't bring the biggest blob (1400 in 49-u?) but we kept it up and thanks to the awesomeness of OHGOD/PL/RAWR/TCF/KIA and RZR we pulled it off (few more but hey who's counting ;) )
My leadership style can probably be accused of lacking many things. The alliance however has gone from strength to strength and is probably now stronger than ever. This is because of all the awesome people that I have the privilege to work with daily. The list is long of brilliant leaders that actually pull in the same direction in RZR.
But regardless of them. I think almost all of them are quite aware that RZR was founded by me and Mindblank by my idea. And if anyone is allowed to destroy RZR by bad leadership it is me. And I can assure you that the peanut gallery that you represent will have zero impact :) |
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