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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Genuinely Windypops If this is true it's hysterical. I bet you regret all those patronising comments about 'well, if you don't treat your members well then you deserve what's coming to you' Fred0. Hardly surprising given how much you guys have had to swallow your morals for the sake of a win in an internet spaceship game.
I can hardly wait for another prominent hobo to spread his wisdom. How come he's not here yet?
Hey, idiot, give my 2 minutes tweeking sig back, thx. Zymurgist |

Twoside
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:32:00 -
[62]
For Fred0 to be emotional he actually needs to have feelings :) |

Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:36:00 -
[63]
e-feelings best feelings c/d ? Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Navigator |

Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 23/06/2009 20:31:08
Originally by: Bismaru's Ambition Fred0 seems really emotional about this.
Yeah, because compared to other leaders in high profile corps that have been robbed I really take the time to explain what happened and how. :) I'm not particularly emotional about this, more philosophical.
Originally by: Genuinely Windypops If this is true it's hysterical. I bet you regret all those patronising comments about 'well, if you don't treat your members well then you deserve what's coming to you' Fred0.
Yeah, except I never did. You seem to dream up alot of things and accuse me of them even if I've never said them. Is that how alt posting works?
Wow I know how angry and humiliated you must feel right now, but this isnt betrayel it's cultural victory / economical victory.
So if this is one sided then why are people mass leaving and whining, and you complained about BoBs management, think Razor will be next of map  
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Genuinely Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:39:00 -
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It's always amusing to look at how the early Fredo responded to the Goons and how he now falls over his own feet trying to defend them (even when they have potentially wiped his corp finances out).
Keep up the good work, Fred0!
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:41:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Bismaru's Ambition Wow I know how angry and humiliated you must feel right now, but this isnt betrayel it's cultural victory / economical victory.
So if this is one sided then why are people mass leaving and whining, and you complained about BoBs management, think Razor will be next of map  
Dude stop trying so hard, you are very bad at trying to spread lies, especially since numbers are easily traced *cough*dotlan*cough* 
And whining, hmm let me see, so far the thread on our forums has 12 replies with people from other corps willing to assist cei, so yeah, unlike corps in kenny, we in rzr stand together united  |

marxist revolutionary
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: marxist revolutionary on 23/06/2009 20:46:48 can't troll with anything substantial after goku got humiliated and booted out of 0.0, have to resort to making stuff up and posting nonsensical zen **** about things that don't involve goons :( |

Twoside
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Bismaru's Ambition
Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 23/06/2009 20:31:08
Originally by: Bismaru's Ambition Fred0 seems really emotional about this.
Yeah, because compared to other leaders in high profile corps that have been robbed I really take the time to explain what happened and how. :) I'm not particularly emotional about this, more philosophical.
Originally by: Genuinely Windypops If this is true it's hysterical. I bet you regret all those patronising comments about 'well, if you don't treat your members well then you deserve what's coming to you' Fred0.
Yeah, except I never did. You seem to dream up alot of things and accuse me of them even if I've never said them. Is that how alt posting works?
Wow I know how angry and humiliated you must feel right now, but this isnt betrayel it's cultural victory / economical victory.
So if this is one sided then why are people mass leaving and whining, and you complained about BoBs management, think Razor will be next of map  
I do believe you.
The point that you're expert witness on being angry and humiliated, if you need someone to talk to, hit me up ingame! |

Genuinely Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Twoside hit me up ingame!
I think one of your own disgruntled members already did that
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Twoside
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Genuinely Windypops
Originally by: Twoside hit me up ingame!
I think one of your own disgruntled members already did that
You're mistaken, that's CEI you're talking about, nice try though bitters :) |
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Genuinely Windypops
Originally by: Twoside hit me up ingame!
I think one of your own disgruntled members already did that
I'm trying to hit him up in game, but the bastard keeps ignoring me  |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Genuinely Windypops It's always amusing to look at how the early Fredo responded to the Goons
Yeah, I've fought goons and I thought the Smoske incident was abit over the top. Most of RZR thinks like that since we discussed it and the roots of this whole war a couple of days ago. EVE politics are way more complex than that though and people ally with and fight others for both bigger and more trivial reasons.
Also, thanks for the concern about our culture being absorbed into goons. We're fine and the RZR identity has never been as strong as it is now and I don't think anyone in RZR confuses themselves for anything but Razorites. We brought our own flavour to Delve Mk2 and we've kept it. :) |

dastommy79
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:56:00 -
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Corp thefts suck. Sorry for your loss Fred0
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Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79 Corp thefts suck. Sorry for your loss Fred0
Yeah but it was going to happen, I mean Razor were just arrogant ****s who treated everyone like ****, obviously this would happen to them only! |

Genuinely Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.23 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Genuinely Windypops on 23/06/2009 21:00:01
Originally by: Fred0 Yeah, I've fought goons and I thought the Smoske incident was abit over the top. Most of RZR thinks like that since we discussed it and the roots of this whole war a couple of days ago. EVE politics are way more complex than that though and people ally with and fight others for both bigger and more trivial reasons.
Yes it must have been a very complex political decision for you to decide to NAP everyone under the sun and abandon any kind of morals so that you can have an easy life and not stand on your own two feet any more. The sad thing is I actually thing Razor is one of the better NC alliances and Fred0 was actually once a really decent leader.
Sadly in recent years he decided to absorb Razor into the single uber-alliance of the NC, and then to become the Goons biggest yes-man. It's hardly surprising that those around him are either bailing or trying to work out how to get rid of him.
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Heath Ledger
Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Edited by: Genuinely Windypops on 23/06/2009 21:00:01 A AAA napfest member's words
I think we can all see what I did there.
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Mo adib
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Genuinely Windypops It's always amusing to look at how the early Fredo responded to the Goons and how he now falls over his own feet trying to defend them (even when they have potentially wiped his corp finances out).
Keep up the good work, Fred0!
Windy bro, I have to admit when you were talking about just sitting back and letting goons and NC start to hate eachother I thought it was p. dumb
now that you guys are trying to force it I realize ur horrible at this game too  |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Yes it must have been a very complex political decision for you to decide to NAP everyone under the sun and abandon any kind of morals so that you can have an easy life and not stand on your own two feet any more. The sad thing is I actually thing Razor is one of the better NC alliances and Fred0 was actually once a really decent leader.
lmao, dude you'll never get this much mileage out of your trolling again but I take pride in putting in extra effort/explanation during hard times. :) It's one of my drawbacks.
Our blue list has long been the same. We killed Delve with the same alliances we started the endavour with. We didn't bring the biggest blob (1400 in 49-u?) but we kept it up and thanks to the awesomeness of OHGOD/PL/RAWR/TCF/KIA and RZR we pulled it off (few more but hey who's counting ;) )
My leadership style can probably be accused of lacking many things. The alliance however has gone from strength to strength and is probably now stronger than ever. This is because of all the awesome people that I have the privilege to work with daily. The list is long of brilliant leaders that actually pull in the same direction in RZR.
But regardless of them. I think almost all of them are quite aware that RZR was founded by me and Mindblank by my idea. And if anyone is allowed to destroy RZR by bad leadership it is me. And I can assure you that the peanut gallery that you represent will have zero impact :) |

Orree
Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Genuinely Windypops It's always amusing to look at how the early Fredo responded to the Goons and how he now falls over his own feet trying to defend them (even when they have potentially wiped his corp finances out).
Keep up the good work, Fred0!
Good one.
However, I have to say, I thought Molle's post right before Fred0's was the actual center of hilarity in that thread.
Sorry for your loss, Fred0. 
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Del369
Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:21:00 -
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Don't forget though, we are close to disbanding, and not one of us has a pot to **** in any more 
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Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Yes it must have been a very complex political decision for you to decide to NAP everyone under the sun and abandon any kind of morals so that you can have an easy life and not stand on your own two feet any more. The sad thing is I actually thing Razor is one of the better NC alliances and Fred0 was actually once a really decent leader.
lmao, dude you'll never get this much mileage out of your trolling again but I take pride in putting in extra effort/explanation during hard times. :) It's one of my drawbacks.
Our blue list has long been the same. We killed Delve with the same alliances we started the endavour with. We didn't bring the biggest blob (1400 in 49-u?) but we kept it up and thanks to the awesomeness of OHGOD/PL/RAWR/TCF/KIA and RZR we pulled it off (few more but hey who's counting ;) )
My leadership style can probably be accused of lacking many things. The alliance however has gone from strength to strength and is probably now stronger than ever. This is because of all the awesome people that I have the privilege to work with daily. The list is long of brilliant leaders that actually pull in the same direction in RZR.
But regardless of them. I think almost all of them are quite aware that RZR was founded by me and Mindblank by my idea. And if anyone is allowed to destroy RZR by bad leadership it is me. And I can assure you that the peanut gallery that you represent will have zero impact :)
"Our blue list has long been the same" - Yes VERY LONG!!
"My leadership style can probably be accused of lacking many things." - The main problem is you not telling yourself that.
"The alliance however has gone from strength to strength and is probably now stronger than ever." - If that were true then why start saying "I take pride in putting in extra effort/explanation during hard times." Surely you are either doing great or failing, or perhaps that was something that was internally recognized (slip?).
"RZR was founded by me and Mindblank by my idea." - Credit hog, so whatever happened to Razor happened because of YOU, and you have the nerve to call others arrogant.
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Del369
Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:26:00 -
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Damn Bitters how many alts you have? seriously dood get some multiple personality going or something cos your just to obvious......
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Val Streth
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:26:00 -
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Hahaha, who is this guy anyway? Hes got a serious hardon for you guys. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One hand on their junk and the other pounding their keyboard throwing Rifter after Rifter at us every day. |

Genuinely Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Yes it must have been a very complex political decision for you to decide to NAP everyone under the sun and abandon any kind of morals so that you can have an easy life and not stand on your own two feet any more. The sad thing is I actually thing Razor is one of the better NC alliances and Fred0 was actually once a really decent leader.
lmao, dude you'll never get this much mileage out of your trolling again but I take pride in putting in extra effort/explanation during hard times. :) It's one of my drawbacks.
Our blue list has long been the same. We killed Delve with the same alliances we started the endavour with. We didn't bring the biggest blob (1400 in 49-u?) but we kept it up and thanks to the awesomeness of OHGOD/PL/RAWR/TCF/KIA and RZR we pulled it off (few more but hey who's counting ;) )
My leadership style can probably be accused of lacking many things. The alliance however has gone from strength to strength and is probably now stronger than ever. This is because of all the awesome people that I have the privilege to work with daily. The list is long of brilliant leaders that actually pull in the same direction in RZR.
But regardless of them. I think almost all of them are quite aware that RZR was founded by me and Mindblank by my idea. And if anyone is allowed to destroy RZR by bad leadership it is me. And I can assure you that the peanut gallery that you represent will have zero impact :)
I actually don't know why you bothered posting just to effectively confirm that you have a large number of allies that tuck each other to bed and night, and that you will fall over yourself to suck up to them whenever you get the chance. Of course you all pull in the same direction - you all do the same thing and follow each other blindly wherever you go. I actually bet you miss being able to make decisions on your own and to lead. You used to be good at it.
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Scatim Helicon
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:27:00 -
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Obvious fake.
It was at least 200b.
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Nikodiemus
Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:30:00 -
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The grace, honesty and tact Fred0 displays in this thread should be a perfect indication of the high quality of people in the Northern Coalition and Razor especially.
All our enemies laying hate on forums just can't do it with substance in game.
Sorry this happened Fred0.
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saangocaste
Gallente Australian Mining and industry Corp Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nikodiemus The grace, honesty and tact Fred0 displays in this thread should be a perfect indication of the high quality of people in the Northern Coalition and Razor especially.
HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
ok...im done
NC has very few quality pilots, only quantity. You guys still really think your the "GOOD GUYS" in eve?? Oh man thats a good one. Im still deciding if we should call the NC BoB Mk2 or something new like NiCk.
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Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nikodiemus The grace, honesty and tact Fred0 displays in this thread should be a perfect indication of the high quality of people in the Northern Coalition and Razor especially.
All our enemies laying hate on forums just can't do it with substance in game.
Sorry this happened Fred0.
WOW!! I am sure this line was said to ****** once, by one of his puppets,..
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Genuinely Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Nikodiemus The grace, honesty and tact Fred0 displays in this thread should be a perfect indication of the high quality of people in the Northern Coalition and Razor especially.
All our enemies laying hate on forums just can't do it with substance in game.
Sorry this happened Fred0.
Holy crap Fred0 if you're going to alt post do it more subtly :/
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Cippalippus Primus
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.06.23 21:44:00 -
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If you really cared about Smoske and his memory you wouldn't keep poking his dead body. Leave the dead in their grave and play internet spaceships, idiot. -clp
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