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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.09.20 09:19:00 -
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riight Last I heard Xirt in TS he was yelling orders left and right just as we've all come to expect. "LOCK THAT VELDSPAR ROID" "ACTIVATE MINING LASERS" etc. *runs from xirt
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.09.20 09:19:00 -
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riight Last I heard Xirt in TS he was yelling orders left and right just as we've all come to expect. "LOCK THAT VELDSPAR ROID" "ACTIVATE MINING LASERS" etc. *runs from xirt
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.09.20 22:57:00 -
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Quote: Could it be that some people are annoyed that a women is in charge who is not afraid to speak her mind while producing your new ship
Wouldn't surprise me if that's actually the case to be honest.
Foyle DOES have a hell of a temper though and I guess that might have scared ppl too But as suggested by more insightful posters she is mainly occupied with production / administration and doing a helluva job at it as far as I know. I'm still confused as to where all these "Foyle and Duke conspiracytheories" comes from.
I would also like to add that Xirt led an op in to DSS about 2 hours ago so he seems to have something to say in the matters still.
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.09.20 22:57:00 -
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Quote: Could it be that some people are annoyed that a women is in charge who is not afraid to speak her mind while producing your new ship
Wouldn't surprise me if that's actually the case to be honest.
Foyle DOES have a hell of a temper though and I guess that might have scared ppl too But as suggested by more insightful posters she is mainly occupied with production / administration and doing a helluva job at it as far as I know. I'm still confused as to where all these "Foyle and Duke conspiracytheories" comes from.
I would also like to add that Xirt led an op in to DSS about 2 hours ago so he seems to have something to say in the matters still.
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.09.21 07:35:00 -
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Havok. In response to yoru last question directed at me. I have no idea. As I think I stated in the previous post I'm just talking about the best of my knowledge. Aka my own experience. Ive never been banned or anything. Of course I never bothered much with the ingame politics. I DO know though that Xirt and Foyle have been disagreeing a LOT from time to time and xirt's still around. So I guess you can disagree with Foyle.
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.09.21 07:35:00 -
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Havok. In response to yoru last question directed at me. I have no idea. As I think I stated in the previous post I'm just talking about the best of my knowledge. Aka my own experience. Ive never been banned or anything. Of course I never bothered much with the ingame politics. I DO know though that Xirt and Foyle have been disagreeing a LOT from time to time and xirt's still around. So I guess you can disagree with Foyle.
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.09.21 14:16:00 -
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Come on. We've been over this. Even I have learned now how it works. The generals have the right (A right in itself aproved by the council btw.) to take these actions if there is an emergency and there simply is no time to call a council meeting (Calling such a meeting would take at least 24 hours I'd imagine) The actions of the generals would THEN be aproved in retrospect. Now, claiming that would make it hard for some members of the council to vote against that decision is just plain wrong. If a council member doesn't have the courage to vote against the decision he shouldn't be in the council at all. With power follows hard decisions. That's the main reason I'm glad I'm NOT in the council. 
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.09.21 14:16:00 -
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Come on. We've been over this. Even I have learned now how it works. The generals have the right (A right in itself aproved by the council btw.) to take these actions if there is an emergency and there simply is no time to call a council meeting (Calling such a meeting would take at least 24 hours I'd imagine) The actions of the generals would THEN be aproved in retrospect. Now, claiming that would make it hard for some members of the council to vote against that decision is just plain wrong. If a council member doesn't have the courage to vote against the decision he shouldn't be in the council at all. With power follows hard decisions. That's the main reason I'm glad I'm NOT in the council. 
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.09.21 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: XeQtR on 21/09/2004 16:26:04 ROFL.
As to the discussions at hand it seems to me it could be divided in to 2 separate issues:
1. Was it RIGHT to kick them, in terms of internal security?
Well. To be honest I don't know. Judging that is for the council, much as a parlament in a real life nation. I can have opinions, however I don't know enough about the background for my opinion to really be valid. It would all just get emotional. Something tells me that the posters in this and other threads that are not even members of the CA don't have more information than I do. Therefor you're intitled to you're opinions but those opinions are not really worth that much. The only entity that have had anywhere near all the facts here is the CA council and the corps involved. The corps's CEO's had a chance to reply to the accusations. The CA council still voted the way it did. making me think they probably did the right thing. Had I NOT thought that I could either have accepted the decision anyway, OR start a political campagn to make them change their minds OR I could have left the alliance on good terms. However starting flamefests on this forum would NOT have been an option. But that's just me.
2. Was it CONSTITUTIONALLY right?
According to Keen no. From what I know he might very well be right. I never read the charter since this is the first political issue that has even remotelly interested me. However, if the entire council agrees on this action I do not think it should be negated just by the fact that someone forgot to put a paragraph on a little document. After all it's a game and none of us (I assume) are proffesional politicans. To ignore the constitution in a country is a HUGE matter. To make a mistake about it in a game can also be pretty bad. In this matter though, since the council DID get to vote on the matter I don't think a possible failure to update the charter is really worth all these threads and posts.
NOw I have a headache I hate trying to argue in a foregn language
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.09.21 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: XeQtR on 21/09/2004 16:26:04 ROFL.
As to the discussions at hand it seems to me it could be divided in to 2 separate issues:
1. Was it RIGHT to kick them, in terms of internal security?
Well. To be honest I don't know. Judging that is for the council, much as a parlament in a real life nation. I can have opinions, however I don't know enough about the background for my opinion to really be valid. It would all just get emotional. Something tells me that the posters in this and other threads that are not even members of the CA don't have more information than I do. Therefor you're intitled to you're opinions but those opinions are not really worth that much. The only entity that have had anywhere near all the facts here is the CA council and the corps involved. The corps's CEO's had a chance to reply to the accusations. The CA council still voted the way it did. making me think they probably did the right thing. Had I NOT thought that I could either have accepted the decision anyway, OR start a political campagn to make them change their minds OR I could have left the alliance on good terms. However starting flamefests on this forum would NOT have been an option. But that's just me.
2. Was it CONSTITUTIONALLY right?
According to Keen no. From what I know he might very well be right. I never read the charter since this is the first political issue that has even remotelly interested me. However, if the entire council agrees on this action I do not think it should be negated just by the fact that someone forgot to put a paragraph on a little document. After all it's a game and none of us (I assume) are proffesional politicans. To ignore the constitution in a country is a HUGE matter. To make a mistake about it in a game can also be pretty bad. In this matter though, since the council DID get to vote on the matter I don't think a possible failure to update the charter is really worth all these threads and posts.
NOw I have a headache I hate trying to argue in a foregn language
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