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Irida Mershkov
Gallente
War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.06.25 13:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Cypherous
Originally by: Killer Gandry
Ow macro's?
How about this one.
Quit obvious but ignored
That could just be an EVE addict, the nnames aren't all gibberish do you have proof of said players doing macro activities?
This guy could be right, I had someone in a previous corporation with a similar name, using numbers on the end to simplify things. He didn't use macros either. The obvious ones are "fiodhfuihasdh" and the like however.
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Phantom Slave
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.25 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Etien Aldragoran
For your wallet's sake you better hope they weren't banned.
The only prices I expect to see go up are POS fuels and high end minerals. Less Macro Miners means more ore for regular players to mine without as much travel, so I wouldn't expect much of a price difference as normal players move in to mine more ore. Ice mining is even more boring than regular mining so I could see pos fuels going up, and macro mission runners probably give a decent % of high end minerals which could cause them to go up a bit.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.06.25 14:19:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran
For your wallet's sake you better hope they weren't banned.
Explain plx.
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.06.25 14:21:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Aschelan
I don't see why mass bannings of macros is all that far-fetched. Blizzard does it by the hundreds of thousands. Difference is, they brag about it...
I wish CCP would brag about it, would cheer me up and might actually deter other people from thinking about macroing.
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Ariane VoxDei
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Posted - 2009.06.25 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Elepherious
Any one else notice a HUGE down flux in macro miners over the last couple of days?
Don't worry they will be back.
They are currently running the "summer festival" thing on warcraft, they will be back when that ends.
But yes, it was unreal inspecting the belts today. Several of them still had veldspar left.
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Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.06.25 15:21:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Belmarduk
The MM-issue is restored.
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Ozone71
Caldari
The Dark Ic3y LIfe
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Posted - 2009.06.25 16:30:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Kezzle
Originally by: Kaptain Kruncher
If Macro Miners pay for their accounts with isk from profits they made macro mining, how is this paying for 24% of subs?
Every paid account has to be paid by someone. If macro miners buy PLEXes with their bazillions of ISK, someone else had to pay cash to get that GTC, no? So, assuming that 24% to be real in some way, even if only for the sake of argument, "24%" of subscription income (or whatever it's 24% of) is being driven by the macroers.
Actually no. All they do is get Ore (basically unlimited supply) and sell it to gather as much ISK as they can - practically an unlimited supply of ISK. The ISK is then sold via various websites for cash and transferred directly through the "Give Player ISK". They could use their ISK to buy PLEXes, or simply buy more time using the cash they make.
Yes they may be buying accounts, but you could be using ALT's and demo accounts for several free accounts and only 1 paid subscriber that has all of the gear.
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Martha Dumptruck
University of Caille
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Posted - 2009.06.25 17:41:00 -
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No lack of macro miners in Jerma.
Come check out the guy with 8 accounts running in the ice belt.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.25 18:28:00 -
[39]
i scareded them away
least they are cracking down
until next year o/
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Arkady Sadik
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.06.29 00:31:00 -
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I have an overview setting called "Ingunn" that excludes haulers, shuttles, rookie ships, etc. just so I could actually use my directional scanner in Ingunn and surrounding systems. Down from 130+ in Ingunn to two.
THANK YOU CCP!
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.06.29 01:09:00 -
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Demand for Cruise missiles has crashed in Jita.
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Delta Ecks
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Posted - 2009.06.29 02:15:00 -
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Quote:
If Macro Miners pay for their accounts with isk from profits they made macro mining, how is this paying for 24% of subs?
Think about it. a plex must be created by buying one with IRL cash, therefore banning a macro account is loss of revenue. But I don't think it's that simple either; as macrofarming-isk sellers are supported by players. I think that income players are willing to dispose of on eve would remain somewhat constant, so as the demand from the macro-sector decreases, players will create more alts as plex price would be lower. In addition, I think all of us can agree that it makes the game "funner", which should garner additional subs.
I'm not an economist. Can anyone else sort through this better?
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Sawny Bean
Xeno Tech Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.29 02:24:00 -
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Given the horrible blight rmt is on the game, I think ccp would release a pr statement mentioning banning macros in mass if that happened.
More likely the implementation of Green Dam in china has had a large impact on the rmt accounts.
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tadig smik
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.06.29 02:33:00 -
[44]
give it a week... see what the price of trit does... if it goes up, chances are you're right... :)
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.06.29 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sawny Bean
More likely the implementation of Green Dam in china has had a large impact on the rmt accounts.
I had never heard of Green Dam. A 60 second review after a Goolge search tells me it would have no real impact on RMT macros from China.
Green Dam is to be installed on every new PC after June 1st. PC's sold prior to June 1st might have Green Dam installed. There is no requirement to install Green Dam on any old system. Additionally, there is no penalty for selling PC's without Green Dam installed. (Dell has not complied yet.) On top of all this I am sure that RMT houses would be able to uninstall (or buy PC's without) Green Dam.
So.... don't think so.
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Warrio
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.29 04:10:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Ashina Sito
Originally by: Sawny Bean
More likely the implementation of Green Dam in china has had a large impact on the rmt accounts.
I had never heard of Green Dam. A 60 second review after a Goolge search tells me it would have no real impact on RMT macros from China.
Green Dam is to be installed on every new PC after June 1st. PC's sold prior to June 1st might have Green Dam installed. There is no requirement to install Green Dam on any old system. Additionally, there is no penalty for selling PC's without Green Dam installed. (Dell has not complied yet.) On top of all this I am sure that RMT houses would be able to uninstall (or buy PC's without) Green Dam.
So.... don't think so.
Right you are.
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Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
White Core
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Posted - 2009.06.29 06:58:00 -
[47]
Lets hope this is true
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Blackened Zero
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Posted - 2009.06.29 12:21:00 -
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If you mean china isk farmers, I hope it's true. They've been around for way too long, mostly born in 2008/04 and have skills to fly golems/ishtars in 0.0 and were everywhere you looked.
It's about effing time, gives incentive to new players to mine and actually get something out of it. Let the prices of minerals go up, they will soon plunder, or go where they're meant to go.
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Mikayla Grey
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.29 12:34:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Kaptain Kruncher
Originally by: Kuolematon
They will never be out of game as they provide 24% of subs income to CCP. Way too much to cut away.
If Macro Miners pay for their accounts with isk from profits they made macro mining, how is this paying for 24% of subs?
\Thread fails to deliver anything useful, unless paranoic speculation is useful.
I would be happy if Macro Miners got the chop though.
You could even say that macro miners are driving up the isk price of plexes and that would lead to lower profits for ccp. The players that pay for plexes to sell, need fewer to get the amount of isk they want.
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Karentaki
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.06.29 12:44:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Kaptain Kruncher
Originally by: Kuolematon
They will never be out of game as they provide 24% of subs income to CCP. Way too much to cut away.
If Macro Miners pay for their accounts with isk from profits they made macro mining, how is this paying for 24% of subs?
Please, explain to everyone how exactly you go about buying game time directly from CCP using only ISK. I really want to hear this explanation.
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EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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Lifelongnoob
Caldari
Final Conflict UK
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.29 12:44:00 -
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since insmother/detorid became a war zone there is less macro ratters.
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ollobrains
THORN Syndicate
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.06.29 12:46:00 -
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a) remove local everywhere
b) make everywhere 00
c) make anyone in an NPC corp over 90 days old ingame fair game
- make corp membership meaning u cant quit a corp for 3 days after instead of 24 hours and or any corp at war u cant leave for 3 days after a war dec
d) make random NPC battleships spawn in high sec that have smartbombs fitted
e) any accounts flagged as macros leav ethem ingame remove their concord protection make them not transferrable and leave em as free for all for all time
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Blackened Zero
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Posted - 2009.06.29 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Blackened Zero on 29/06/2009 12:59:08
Originally by: ollobrains
e) any accounts flagged as macros leav ethem ingame remove their concord protection make them not transferrable and leave em as free for all for all time
Nice idea, would love this. But I personally don't want to chase them all the time for something they should be banned from the game anyway.
If they have been done a clean sweep, they'll be massive new accounts made to train up towards Ravens and lvl 4 agents asap.
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LordSwift
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.29 16:03:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Karentaki
Originally by: Kaptain Kruncher
Originally by: Kuolematon
They will never be out of game as they provide 24% of subs income to CCP. Way too much to cut away.
If Macro Miners pay for their accounts with isk from profits they made macro mining, how is this paying for 24% of subs?
Please, explain to everyone how exactly you go about buying game time directly from CCP using only ISK. I really want to hear this explanation.
dont you just buy Plex's in game with in game isk. I know someone has to buy the GTC's first but thats a way to do it
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Misanth
Reaper Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.29 16:06:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Arkady Sadik
I have an overview setting called "Ingunn" that excludes haulers, shuttles, rookie ships, etc. just so I could actually use my directional scanner in Ingunn and surrounding systems. Down from 130+ in Ingunn to two.
THANK YOU CCP!
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Rhaegor Stormborn
H A V O C
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Posted - 2009.06.29 18:04:00 -
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If this is true, it would be a good start, but still a LONG way from being done.
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Belmarduk
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2009.06.29 18:50:00 -
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Not only do they destroy the min-prices (ice and otherwise) they also drive the prices for plexes up to ridiculous heights...
Oh and CCP:
They also ruin your income:
High plex-prices will discourage people from having alt-accounts....
Not talking about the longterm damage it can have to a game when the game gets known as going soft on cheaters and macroers rampant in the game.....
CCP I would give this a THOUGHT if I were you...
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Theqwert125
Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.06.29 19:28:00 -
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Apparently, China has declared RMT illegal
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.29 20:00:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Soporo on 29/06/2009 20:02:58
Edited by: Soporo on 29/06/2009 20:02:48
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The ruling is likely to affect many of the more than 300 million Internet users in China, as well as those in other countries involved in virtual currency trading. In the context of online role playing games like World of Warcraft, virtual currency trading is often called gold farming.
The most popular form of virtual currency in China is called "QQ coins," a form of virtual credit issued by Tencent.com.
The trading of virtual currency for real cash employs hundreds of thousands of people worldwide and generates between $200 million and $1 billion annually, according to a 2008 survey conducted by Richard Heeks at the University of Manchester.
He estimates that between 80% and 85% of gold farmers are based in China.
Course this just probly means that the State will be taking over the trade.
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LordValia
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Posted - 2009.06.29 20:07:00 -
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Do you really think that'll do much? The report states that virtual goods and services can not bed traded for real goods and services in China. That means if the account belongs to a country other than China, it's fine. The Chinese workers are providing a real service(their time in front of a computer which is no different than someone typing up reports for a company) and therefore can receive payment in real goods(money). The virtual goods are actuall property of the company which can now sell it for real money while not in the jurisdiction of the Chinese. Do you see any change to what is already happening? I don't.
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