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Rath Kelbore
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2011.09.16 23:42:00 -
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Get blown up a lot. Don't be afraid to go to low/null and get into fights. People say you need x ship or x skills to get into pvp or whatever. They're lying. You might die a lot but t1 frigs are easy to come by.
Fight solo, fight with groups, blob people, be blobbed, fight outnumbered and win, fight outnumbered and lose, ect ect. Eve is the only worthwhile game left that has open world loot dropping pvp. Go PVP!!
On the PVE side, do whatever you want, don't let people tell you "you need this ship before you run level 4's blah blah". If you enjoy running level fours in your battlecruiser or whatever then do so.
Realise there's plenty of other ways to make isk in pve combat other than doing lvl 4's. Null sec plexing can be fun, and no you don't have to be in a null sec corp/alliance to do so.
S'all I got for now. |
Hanius Valm
Freelancer Union Unaffiliated
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Posted - 2011.09.16 23:53:00 -
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At first in eve its tempting to want to try everything: You want to mine and build (or craft as some wow transfer students call it initially) your own ships, mission run, live in worm hole space because you read a neat article about it, etc etc. You've got skills training left right and center for refining, for guns, for missiles, for that cool looking interceptor. You've got aspirations to get into lvl4 missions, and at the same time corner some undeveloped section of the market.
My advice is this, focus on one area initally: missions. When you first start out its the easiest way to make isk, and while doing this learn about the other areas of the game. I learnt the hard way that all those hours sunk into skilling for my first hulk were worthless as I could earn more doing missions in a raven.
Sink skill points into boosting a progressive line of combat ships first (eg kestrel, caracal, drake, raven), and their related weapon system, in this case missile skills, as well as some social skills to advance you up the npc corp standings faster. Those skillpoints will never be wasted. Tech 2 strip miners, you might later wish you hadn't bothered with. Don't cross train races at this point, if you play the game long enough you most probably will end up doing so. But save that for when all those core skills to do with cap, extending you shield, battlecruiser, etc are all at lvl 5. It may seem like ages, but its worth it in the long haul.
People will tell you fly this race, or this race is better for pvp. Its a never ending arguement. The fact of the matter is early in the game a well skilled focused player will bring more to a gang, than one trying to get into both a hurricane and an abaddon simultanously.
Get a good bit of experience playing the game before delving into other areas besides missions, you can sink alot of isk, your free time, and skillpoints into something only to realise, oh dear, I was earning more isk per hour running lvl 3's in my drake. One exception being pvp, once you can fly a frigate with some mediocre lvl 4 skills, and understand some basic game mechanics like session timers you'll add to any fleet.
Always have a good mission runner ship and agent in empire to fall back on, loose as many ships as you want, grind and fit out an expensive WH plexer for example, but always have that one ship and an agent to return to so you can grind up more isk if you next big throw of the dice doesn't work.
And above treat Jita local like the spam filter in your email inbox, ignore it completely. Don't even read it, no good can come of clicking on a spam mail, and the same is true of all local contracts.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.09.17 01:05:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:So, I was thinking about what it was like for me when I was truly new at EVE Online, and the little silly mistakes that I made that now, as a veteran player, I laugh at myself over. I'm talking about spending a week trying to find the old Villard Wheel that never existed. Oh, was that not the best mission ever =P But I think one of my biggest silly mistakes was assuming that it would be bad for me if I took every single mission that I was offered. This meant that I was trying to do missions that I really wasn't qualified to do. For example: taking missions where the final item was too large for my hold, or missions where my ship and/or fit wasn't the best thing to use, and not learning that after rather gorgeous explosions, I probably should upgrade from my very low-end ships and modules. Think back to when you were a noob. What silly mistakes did you make, and how would you advise new players to avoid making them?
I didn't go to 0.0 until I was almost 3 months into the game. I should have done it at least a month sooner. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.17 01:20:00 -
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Get ready to die! A lot! :D Ignore these 'don't take from yellow can' messages...what they mean is; 'If you take from a can, be aware of the possible consequences.' This covers a lot, actually; shoot, buy, steal, fly whatever and go wherever you want, just try to be aware of the possible consequences. Eve has little in the way of morality ( excepting what players choose or can enforce with power ) but it really can have devastating and entertaining consequences. |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.17 01:40:00 -
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Blindly autopiloting and therefore ended up in 0.0 without realizing it. I had my first taste of a gate camp back then.
Falling for a can-flipping trap was also my second hard-learned lesson. |
Erudius
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.17 05:09:00 -
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First,
If CCP announces that normal daily downtime is going to be longer for some sort of update, maintenance, etc...
Set a LONG Training Skill
...things happen and unfortunately the "hamsters" stop spinning the wheels once in a while.
Second,
If you are unsure about what to train (new characters always have lots of short time frame skills), find a skill that takes longer than 24 hours and set it up at the END of your training queue.
You can always add/remove short training time skills above it. This gives you flexibility of ALWAYS having something training while you plan your character
Third,
Have Fun! The Universe is YOURS!!!
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Johanna Tychi
Alcoholic Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.09.17 05:45:00 -
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I didn't know until the ISK podcast pointed me to it, that you can queue invention jobs in laboratories. until then, i thought that i have to wait for the research spots, once used by someone else to be liberated once again. |
le chatlier
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.17 06:02:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:So, I was thinking about what it was like for me when I was truly new at EVE Online, and the little silly mistakes that I made that now, as a veteran player, I laugh at myself over. I'm talking about spending a week trying to find the old Villard Wheel that never existed. Oh, was that not the best mission ever =P
I made that mission even better. My first character was a caldari (CCP should REALLY have made the amarr/minnie image-ry more awesome than some monks walking around a temple somewhere/some ferals living on a pile of rust that didn't even have a cockpit in it, should have featured pewpew lasers and loadsaguns images more) and fresh from being a warcrack addict, I thought that I could shoot that brutix parked 5km up from SAK HQ with all the drones out. I found out about CONCORDOKKEN twice, and then failed the villard wheels mission because my stuff got blown up :(
why'd you get rid of it ccp? villard wheels are what made newb corp chat so much fun
at least we still have THE DEVICE! |
Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.09.17 06:40:00 -
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A more succinct way to phrase the trust issue:
"Never trust someone you can't punch." |
Xer Jin
The Dex Initiative
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Posted - 2011.09.17 06:51:00 -
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Just cause you can get that next lvl mission dosent mean you should do it ^^ helps to make a friend and do the mission together join my Corp "the Dex" we will help too |
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Kristopher Arione
Clearly Compensating
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Posted - 2011.09.17 07:48:00 -
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I learned to use containers when transporting expensive goods, In my second week I was suicide ganked in Jita carrying 7 cladari navy cruise launchers in a frigate. I was cargo scanned on my trip back to the trade hub. I had bough them t for cheap (300 mil for then then 450 mil of launchers) a few systems over in preparation for my battleship skill and my shiny navy raven a friend had gifted to me. Also never to auto pilot with cargo |
Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
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Posted - 2011.09.17 08:21:00 -
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If you jump right into pvp and keep lossing SP's it means you just spent your first year never updating your bloody clone.
Yes I did that for my first year lossing sp's every time I got poded becouse I did not update my clone.
So update your clone and stay on top of it. Hell if I get with in 1mil of the cap of my clone I update it now lol. |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
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Posted - 2011.09.17 08:38:00 -
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Keep in mind that you have two more chars on your account.
Sure, when starting, there is soooo much to train on your main that putting time to train alts up seems a waste, but for me, it wasn-¦t until six months that I got around to invest a month to train two market alts up. In the following month, I earned about half the money I had made those six months before.
Even better, a half decent station-trading market alt can be trained in less than a week, all you need is Trade and Retail for the slots and Accounting and Broker Relations to lower the transaction costs. Finally Margin Trading will allow you to make the most of your money. Learn about the market mechanics (why are some buy orders green? ), find good market places and a few good trading items and you have a nice passive income. |
Agnor BooK
Mr. Wednesday's Privateers
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Posted - 2011.09.17 08:51:00 -
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1. Train the core competency skills early, I spent a good long time not being able to fit most of what I wanted because I only paid attention to the ship command skills and weapons.
2. Just because you can fly a ship doesn't mean you can do anything with it. Learn to fit your ship for what you want to do. PVE? Fit for the mission. PVP? Change your fit or you'll probably lose fast. |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.17 08:59:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:
I didn't go to 0.0 until I was almost 3 months into the game. I should have done it at least a month sooner.
I made the exact opposite mistake (well, I wouldn't call it a mistake, really, just a suboptimal choice) -- I went to 0.0 after 2 weeks in the game and spent the next month trying to train the skills for at least a half-baked Raven fit. Took me a week before I could clear even a single a belt spawn.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Louis deGuerre
Malevolence.
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Posted - 2011.09.17 09:03:00 -
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Your drones can be controlled using keyboard shortcuts. There are various other keyboard shortcuts which will make your life so so so much easier. I only flew Gallente drone boats for two months before I found out
Look for a nice corp as soon as you can. If it turns out they suck, just leave and find a better one.
Best guide to EVE, if it's too good to be true, you're going to get scammed/betrayed/blown up/ransomed/robbed. FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! |
Acki Juc
0utbreak Outbreak.
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Posted - 2011.09.17 09:11:00 -
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Make sure your scout knows what he's doing so your entire fleet doesn't land in a bubble and get smartbombed to death. |
Isis Tavore
Ashfell Celestial Equilibrium POD-SQUAD
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Posted - 2011.09.17 09:13:00 -
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Probably repeating most of the above:
1) Avoid Rancer like the plague, and don't be a clever arse thinking you can sneak through it at 4am GMT. Americans are there. Americans are waiting. To shoot you in the face.
2) Join a decent Corp as quickly as you can. Improves your game immeasurably.
3) Avoid mining unless you have a very high boredom threshold.
4) Don't break your arm building a garden wall, as you won't be able to play the game for a while. Although, it does make waiting for Heavy Missiles V to complete much easier. |
Angel Scott
5th Front enterprises Mayhem.
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Posted - 2011.09.17 09:15:00 -
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Read Sun Tzu: The Art of War.
That is all. |
malaire
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Posted - 2011.09.17 09:59:00 -
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If you see ISK-making opporturnity which requires initial investment, never go for it unless you can afford to lose that initial investment. There are many kinds of scams around, and it takes time to learn them all. So don't fly what you can't afford to lose and also don't invest what you can't afford to lose.
Also: Don't read Jita-local. It is full of scams and at least in the beginning you most likely won't have enough knowledge to understand them all. I lost 300 mil when I thought I understood it better than scammer ...
There was contract in Jita local selling certain rare item for big sum, maybe 400 mil, and it was advertised as great deal. Of course I knew contracts in Jita-local are usually scams, so I checked market price of that item. Someone was selling the item there for only 300 mil, and I also saw buy order at over 300 mil. So I realized that contract was overpriced and I could make quick profit if I instead buy it from market at 100 mil cheaper price, and then sell.
So I bought it, and tried to sell. But I couldn't. I doublechecked that buy order, and realized that I need 9 of those items before I can sell and of course there weren't so many items in whole region. Checking market history I saw that the item I now had was only worth maybe 20 mil ISK. (Later I learned about Margin Trading scamming, and that even with 9 such items I could not have sold them.) Carebear -á* -áTrader -á* -áPerfect Music-á-á* -áNever Scamming -á* -áNever Pirating |
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Sered Woollahra
No Fixed Abode LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2011.09.17 10:57:00 -
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It took me a few days before I realized that only wrecks with solid triangles held loot
It took me a while before I realized I should stick with one NPC corp to run missions for, in order to progress to higher levels sooner.
I sold everything I looted for the highest bid price instead of seeing what the real market value was..
It took me too long to find a good newbie corp to join - should have done that asap.
It took me too long to go to nullsec. |
Keno Skir
Vectis Systems
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Posted - 2011.09.17 12:22:00 -
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Noatalba Hyades wrote:1. Never EVVAH trade when under the influence of your favorite drug. EVE does not ask you "are you sure?" if you have a typo in your market order's price. 2. Even if you're sober, check at least twice before hitting Enter or the OK button with your new / modified orders. I learned that especially well after wanting to set up a buy order for two T2 cruisers at around 100 M each and the game decided there was one more "0" in my oder than I thought. Losing 1.8 B in a second really hurts.
Interestingly enough i got drunk the other day and spent 190million isk on a cruiser because i saw the price at a glance with three less zeros on the end :/
My EVE advice so far? All the mining and mission running and trade is the bread, the jam is the people-people interaction that occurs around it all. It was like a whole new game when i first realised theres more going on than grinding for the next ship/module and focused my attention on the people of eve and their wars and scams and little intricacies. Imerse yourself in the multiplayer aspect, if you're a miner do it in a gang and think of a way to do it better between you, if you're a lonewolf at least stay in contact with others of the same interest. Even a solo trader will eventually do better with a scout or two. A game with 50,000 people who play side by side without speaking to each other is a small game, EVE is a biiig game as long as you can find the right people to play with.
In my corp the new guys usually start out as salvagers and clean up battlesites untill their tackling skills train, then tackle untill they decide to train something better. But the best thing about joining a good corp isn't the easier access to isk, and maybe not even the assistance with training and loadouts (although a close second), it's just that when your months of work are destroyed in a second you have a family to tell the story to and laugh instead of rage quit. I have a feeling most people who rage quit early on just didn't have anyone to tell their story to, and nobody to laugh with them.
Ks |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
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Posted - 2011.09.17 17:47:00 -
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If something sounds to good to be true, it probably is, avoid any corps that ask for joining fee, free freighter service to get your stuff to there space etc etc.
Another useful thing is to not depends on the CCP support team, if you lose a ship to lag or bug dont waste time typing a petition out...it could be spent making the isk back for the new ship. If anything is going to force you away from this game its the utter terrible support team.
Also never take from a yellow can Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
N'maro Makari
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Posted - 2011.09.17 18:42:00 -
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Ok heres two of the most important.
1) ALWAYS BUY 2 OF EVERYTHING
2) If another player asks you to come to a remote location, alone, for any reason, or says you can just take from his/her jetcan. DONT DO IT.YOU WILL BE PODDED N'maro Makari |
Kimpaz
Swedish Px 77 The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2011.09.17 21:07:00 -
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Illadelph Justice wrote:Don't do something incredibly boring just because someone told you it was a good idea.
For example, don't spend months training a hulk on your main character because someone told you it would help you pay for your PvP ships. This happened to me, and I haven't touched a hulk in nearly two years. I wish I could put all those millions of SP into something useful.
Also don't mine just because. There are far better ways to make isk. If you're going to be a miner, you have to WANT to be a miner, just like beekeepers have to want to keep bees and taxidermists have to want to fill animals with sand.
Haha some Eddie Izzard there, always nice. ...and I agree with what you're saying. I'm a miner (mainly in null) and that's because I like mining and manufacturing.
You should make money your way and not "the right way". |
Nak hak
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Posted - 2011.09.17 22:03:00 -
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Here's my POV of my mistakes. No doubt a few repeats.
1.Join a good corp as soon as possible.
2.Leave your first corp when you can't learn anymore from other corp members. Find new one.
3.Fly what ever you are having fun in. Fly it until you are longer having fun in it. Don't fly something because someone tell you to fly it. They might not be looking out for your best interests.
4.Don't train your main character to be a jack of all trades. I feel I wasted a few skill points on weak mining and weak industry skills. Should have saved it for the alts.
5.When moving to a new system, don't move all your stuff. Take only what you need, and/or buy what you need at the new system. Sell what you find to be useless for you, and store what might be useful in future at the old system. Moving is a pain.
6.Build mission bases. This would be the system you do a number of missions. Honestly, I tend to create a base for everything( PVP, PVE, Trading,....etc.). I find having my PVE ships and PVP ships in the same station/system to be useless. Rarely fine combining bases useful.
7.In PVE, always double check that you have accepted a mission before undocking station. While in mission space, make sure you have retrieved the game token (item) required to complete the mission. This would have saved me a number of jumps.
8.In PVE, have more ammunition then you think you need for the missions. I learned this when a rogue drone web and scammed my Catalyst as I ran out of rounds. Took me way to long to get away for the little bugger.
9. In PVP, when starting out carry less faction ammunition and nano paste then you think you need. You are going die sooner then later. So, why drop good loot?
10.Take a Agony Unleashed Basic PVP course. Sooner then you think you should take it. Wish I would took my classes sooner.
11.In PVP, the Thresher is the way to go. If plan on skilling up for destroyer that is. Never used one of my Catalysts in PvP.
12.In PVP, if a Interceptor( He had friends.) is chasing you up a pipe, then create a safe spot, and keep a eye out for combat probes. Lost my first Thrasher mainly because I did not safe up, and wait for the probes. Make them work for it.
13.Mining, never solo mine in low-sec. Lost a mining cruiser that way.
14.If you are into mining, then just focus on training into a T2 Hulk fit.
15.Did I tell you mining is boring?
16.When it coming to alt characters, train for a trade alt before a hauler alt. I should have created a trade alt before a hauler alt,.... and the other alts. Trading has been a good way for me to make isk.
17.If your trading, then read up on the latest trading scams. I got burned. Once.
18.Being in fleet(PvP, PvE, Mining,...etc.) with other players is more fun then being a solo ship.
19.Finally, once your green(newness.) fades, give back to the Eve Online community.
"CCP employees should never proclaim a feature to be awesome. Only subscribers should." |
Zinobi Alduin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.17 22:36:00 -
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While I find many of these advice to be very helpfull i must ask:
- Just how do i find a good corp anyway? (I have been in quite a few meh-ones. Wish I staid in 'school', then I would at least not have to worry about wars)
- What is a care bear? From the adverts I vaguely remember from my adolescence they where brightly coloured and used some kind of chest mounted beam weapon. Avoid lasers? (or why are you using in-game jargon in a thread aimed at noobs)
And of cause, how DO I find a good corp? |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2011.09.17 22:53:00 -
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I was reading the forums extensively before I started playing the game. At the time there was extensive discussion about using Merlins to run missions. Some people stated that they could use X fitting to run L3 missions.
So when I started playing, I trained to fly X fitting and fly L3 missions.
After a few weeks of what felt like beating my head against the table, I upgraded to a Caracal. Suddenly L3 missions were a lot easier. Then after almost a year of flying that, one of my friends suggested I upgrade to a Drake. What do you know? L3 missions became easier still!
These days, I talk to people on the forums about running L4 missions in assault ships. I lose sleep sometimes, wondering how many poor souls I have convinced into running L4 missions in assault ships when they're doing it for income/standings but I'm only running L4s in assault ships for giggles?
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Keno Skir
Vectis Systems
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Posted - 2011.09.17 23:03:00 -
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1) - Finding a good corp isn't easy but at least there are a few good ways to do research. Hang out in the recruitment channel and try to sift through the copy paste drivel that crowds the channel for somebody who talks like a real person, talk with them. If that goes well and you think they might have something good going for them, go hang out in their recruitment channel if they have one. Hopefully there will be a few members on hand to give you some idea of what to expect. Some small corps dont have the manpower to keep a constant recruitment channel, and it's worth noting that you often get a more personal family like environment from smaller corps as opposed to larger ones (at the cost of lesser protection). If you happen to make any friends before the corp stage try investigating their corp or asking if they know of any with a good rep :)
You could also try the corporation recruitment ad system but it's crowded with spam, and corps who only do one small act of mining at 6pm every second wednesday of the month will tick every box anyway in the hope it will net them more members.
All this is dependant however on what you would like to get from said corporation, once you have given the WHY some thought, the HOW should become much clearer.
2) - "Care-Bear" is a slang name given in EvE to the people who prefer the non-combatant side of the game, highsec miners and indy pilots and the like.
Ks |
Croniac
Thunder Chickens
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Posted - 2011.09.17 23:12:00 -
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Don't rush through your training/tutorial missions, they teach you fundamentals, and they even give you some nice items. Take your time and understand what you are being shown.
Get into a good player corp that does everything, don't get suckered into some 'we only do this' corp, they always fail.
Don't be afraid to die, and remember to fly ships you can afford to replace.
And if what you're doing is making you bored, or making you hate the game STOP DOING THAT. Eve is a vast bottomless pool. Nobody knows everything about it. Nobody has done everything in it.
If you're bored in Eve, its because you are boring. Come up with a dream, and then make it happen. It is all right there in front of you. But if you just bang the rocks, or run the mission treadmill, you will never break out of the routine.
Everything is free. Even the most expensive ships are just made from rocks. And the right corporations can get you going down that path.
Most of all, have fun. |
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