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CCP Fallout
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:35:00 -
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So, I was thinking about what it was like for me when I was truly new at EVE Online, and the little silly mistakes that I made that now, as a veteran player, I laugh at myself over.
I'm talking about spending a week trying to find the old Villard Wheel that never existed. Oh, was that not the best mission ever =P
But I think one of my biggest silly mistakes was assuming that it would be bad for me if I took every single mission that I was offered. This meant that I was trying to do missions that I really wasn't qualified to do. For example: taking missions where the final item was too large for my hold, or missions where my ship and/or fit wasn't the best thing to use, and not learning that after rather gorgeous explosions, I probably should upgrade from my very low-end ships and modules.
Think back to when you were a noob. What silly mistakes did you make, and how would you advise new players to avoid making them? CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout |
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Chrandon
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:52:00 -
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I used to run both a shield repair, and an armor repair for quite some time. Granted, it can work, but more effective picking one lol |

Malcom Dax
Blacklight Incorporated Broken Chains Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 13:59:00 -
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Well, the first time I changed from the civilian gun to a real gun I didn't realise I needed ammo. 
One of the big things though was that I constantly swapped agents and NPC corps, therefore not building up standings and being stuck running L1 missions and wondering why I wasn't progressing. Solution: Run agents for one NPC corp only at the beginning.
Looking back my other big mistake was not joining a good corp soon enough. There are loads of good corps out there for new players to help them learn the game. I'd advise all new players to seek one out. Eve Uni for example. |

NUXI7
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
34
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:03:00 -
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My biggest mistake was thinking that losing ships was a bad thing. Losing ships is great fun and the only way you learn. |

Khaemwese
Crimson Nation En Garde
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:15:00 -
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The day I was able to board a Maelstrom, I was so excited I forgot all about the details of the mission. So I boarded it, slapped some bare bones fitting and went off on my mission.
A single drone battleship was there, waiting to be smashed by my new toy. I opened fire and kept shooting at it impressed with my mighty damage and didn't pay much attention to the drone frigates spawning all over the place. A minute later I was pinned down my multiple points and overwhelmed by the amount of damage they were putting out. My new toy was gone a few seconds later.
I went back and read the mission details and there it was, the frigates would spawn based on the damage done on the battleship. I had allowed my excitement get in the way and paid the price. |

Shadoo
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
4
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:20:00 -
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Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled. |

Nakedandfearless
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:21:00 -
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Taking sooo long to join a great alliance. I ran missions forever just to pay the deposit to join Goonswarm Federation.
For the new guys you want to run missions or mine as quick as you can save that isk and contact a recruiter and pay the minimal deposit to join the best alliance in the game.
See you in Dek. |

Mikron Alexarr
New Age Solutions The Laughing Men
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:27:00 -
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"Back when I was your age!"
When moon mining first came out, we ran star bases and moon mining operations. :P We had a weekly shipment that needed to be freightered from CR to empire and back to get fuel for our towers. One week, no one logged in for the trip (holiday) and the towers were all crying for fuel (read: spamming my inbox). I decided to bring my best bud at the time (Binx Podgrigar) to scout and take a freighter from the deepest part of Cloud Ring all the way to Jita and back. I was lucky and played the log out game (many many times) and made it! Both Ways! My CEO was not happy needless to say.
TL;DR one escort freighter ops into low/null sec are to be avoided (especially in today's space climate - too many people that want to hurt you). |

Celadin
ORDER Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:28:00 -
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I was getting owned in early missions for lack of knowledge about how to fit a ship. After someone mentioned railguns in rookie chat as being long-range, I though "score, I'll just blast 'em from far away!". After a bit of wrangling with the market system (totally got lost in that ocean), I found some. Needless to say, I realized some time later why my Minmatar ships still weren't faring so well. I think I discovered artillery in my third week.
The moral? Stick with the weapons that fit your starting race. It'll save you a lot of heartache. Better yet, check out your ship's info and find out just what you should be fitting to make the most of what you have. |

Illadelph Justice
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
14
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:36:00 -
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Don't do something incredibly boring just because someone told you it was a good idea.
For example, don't spend months training a hulk on your main character because someone told you it would help you pay for your PvP ships. This happened to me, and I haven't touched a hulk in nearly two years. I wish I could put all those millions of SP into something useful.
Also don't mine just because. There are far better ways to make isk. If you're going to be a miner, you have to WANT to be a miner. |
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Helothane
Ascendent. Test Friends Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:37:00 -
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(1) Don't believe anything anyone from Pandemic Legion or Goonswarm tells you.
(2) Ignore anything said in the local channel in Jita, Amarr, Rens or Dodixie, especially if it is a contract. Much for the same reason as (1)
(3) If you are new to the game, you might not know what in the game really interests you. Maybe mining, maybe PvP, maybe running missions, etc. While all these things are not mutually exclusive, and some of the skills intersect, if you try to train to try out all these different things, it will slow you down in terms of training for what you eventually decide to do with that character. If you know what you want to do already, do some research before you start your character so that you know what to train in. You will eventually get to the point of training skills that take 2 or more weeks to finish, regardless of what you go into, and you don't want to be wasting time on skills you won't be using.
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Cecil Arongo
Gh0st Hunters Sspectre
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:42:00 -
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I remember that I got into a cruiser class ship way before I figured out completely how to use frigs and destroyers..... I lost a bunch of ships that way..... ( oh and also by buying skillbooks in lowsec.... just dont do it ;)
Learn the strengths of the ships you fly. Ask your corpies about your fittings, and dont take it personally when they lol. (We all had bad fits once, just look at my kill/loss board) Understand your ships capabilities, then move on to the next class.
If you have any questions, look me up ingame. I'd be happy to accept your application, as well as your.... ahem.... pvp entrance exam ;)
Fly Reckless! |

Darth Brole
New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 14:55:00 -
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1. Fly ships you can afford to lose.
2. Always buy Platinum insurance on your ship.
I first started the game thinking of doing a mix between industry and combat, and learnt that, though viable, it takes a long time to pull off successfully. FInd something you enjoy doing in this game and concentrate on that for awhile :)
Also, if you do combat, learn how to use Salvaging up to lvl 4. You'll make loads of money this way.
Also be casual, have fun. This is a game and some people take it seriously when there's no need. Shoot the juice, be friendly in local and discover genuinely interesting people to talk to. You make friends this way and get surprisingly good contacts into corps and alliances.
Also, know a scam when you see one. if you don't know, don't do it. Always ask :)
If you want anymore help or advice please feel free to mail me or private convo me :)
Fly safe o7
Regards, DB |

RaTTuS
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
108
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:05:00 -
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Always be training Something .... http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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Mila Strelok
Autonomos S.L.
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:05:00 -
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Trust no one. If you trust someone, you'll regret.
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Sho Menao
Black Core Federation Intrepid Crossing
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:07:00 -
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If you don't know exactly what you want to do in EVE, which you probably won't for the first few months, don't spend all your time training skills specific for a single profession. There are years worth of skills that benefit all professions, primarily the skills for the Core certificates. Getting those up will make your life doing any profession that much easier and will give you time to figure out what you want to do. |
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GM Haggis
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:08:00 -
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Two main things spring to my mind :
1/ There are no such things as stupid questions. The only way you learn is by asking.
2/ If it looks too good to be true, it is. GM Haggis ~ Game Master ~ EVE Online Customer Support Team ~ CCP Games Tea & Coffee Maker Extraordinaire |
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Rixx Javix
Lucifer's Hammer Burn Away
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:14:00 -
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There is so much more information available now than when I started. So take advantage of it, read blogs more than you read forums. Many of the game's best players write their own blogs, find them and read them.
EVEOGANDA - Eve Blog Pack
You can start there with links to the Eve Blog Pack.
Couple Freebies: > Turn off Auto-Lock > Only fly what you can afford to lose > The only way to win Eve is to never give up > The only way to learn is to play > The only way to play is to undock (so far at least) |

DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:28:00 -
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1. Before moving up from your frigate to destroyer or cruiser, buy a higher tier frigate beforehand. Gallente - Incursus Minmatar - Rifter Amarr - Caldari -
2. Pay special attention to your ship's bonuses in the "description" tab. If you get bonuses to projectile weapons, you should be using them!
3. Don't mix gun types! Stick to one size weapon for your ship. Keep them all the same type. There are a few exceptions, however, where Minmatar ships fit as many autocannons as they can, then move onto missiles.
4. Before flying a shiny, new cruiser, battlecruiser or battleship, train its skill to at least 3. When flying, train it to 4 ASAP. Same with weapons.
5. If you don't like mining, don't do it. You don't need to mine, and it definitely isn't profitable enough that you should be doing it even if you dislike it. Pick a profession you enjoy, and follow it.
6. Explore EVE's income generators! Tired of missions? Buy a probe launcher and explore! Found a wormhole? Insure, go through, and feel fear. :D Incursions can get you in on fleet action and profit, just make sure you research the ship types you should be flying. Try running small PI colonies, or salvage your missions after running them. There's plenty in EVE to break any player's activities up :) |

Ryunosuke Kusanagi
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:29:00 -
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NEVER EVER FLY ANYTHING YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE!
Jesus, I can't believe this hasn't been said yet. |
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Jali Prince
JelliBeans
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:32:00 -
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flying afk, emptying the dishwasher through 0.4..... LOL, my first podding and i missed it! 
Chocolate, that's what we need... |

Kir'ian
Hidden Fun Stuff
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:56:00 -
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Thinking you are safe in hi-sec and can live a care-bear life.
While you can, the mistake is wanting to. Even just being threatened with PvP can be a whole new experience and really change your game for the better. EVE isn't the twitch game that the FPSs are, so fit up a ship you know you will lose and dive into lo-sec for some fun. Even if you are probably going to spend most of your time pew-pewing roids or playing the market game the experience will be worth it.
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Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
2
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:11:00 -
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Set your star map to avoid the system Rancer.
Rancer is a low sec system near the middle of Empire Space. It's full of pirates waiting to camp you 24/7.
I even lost an interceptor there to a smart bombing battleship.
It's the Port Royal of the Eve world where a lot of pirate corps hang out. |

Cyra Foruk
MinTek Heavy Industries MinTek Conglomerate
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:15:00 -
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Believe half of what you see, none of what you hear; and make sure parting with assets is the LAST thing you do.
Being cap stable isn't always a good thing. You don't ALWAYS run a MWD or AB; check how well your cap does with it offlined. That lowslot cap mod could be used for something MUCH more useful.
Check market transactions and contracts thoroughly. If you don't, you'll regret it.
And no, you can't have 2 characters on the same account and train skills on them.
Oh and Hulkageddon, don't cry about it anywhere; if you lost your brand new Exhumer/Barge. Your fault. This. Is. Not. A. Signature!
Dont-think-about-it, dont-think-about-it, dont-think-about-it... |

Flakey Foont
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:20:00 -
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Mixing guns. |

Icemandk
Ramm's RDI Tactical Narcotics Team
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:32:00 -
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When i start my second user i wante to do stuff right and there i found it "The BOOK" http://www.isktheguide.com/
and one think i live by is never fly anythink you canont afford to lose
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Cathrianne
Asteroid Miners Consortium Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 16:47:00 -
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1) Just because you have the skill to undock a ship does not mean you can really 'fly' it. Putting medium or small, size mods on a battleship hull does not work out very well in the long run.
2) Exploring wormholes can be fun, but is often dangerous. You could make piles of ISK if you know what you are looking for. It takes a lot of skills to to do more than just poke your nose in and see what is there. a) there are not any static asteroid belts in wild space, you have to find the grav sites with your probes. b) always check info on wormholes before going through, they may be critical on time or mass. c) most people, in wild space, will shoot you before asking any questions. d) learn how to use your D-scanner, it may save you some heart ache.
3) Check contracts very carefully. Be sure you are getting/paying what you think you should be. Most contracts put up in local chat in the trade hubs are scams, but not all of them.
4) PVE fit ships do very poorly in most PVP settings.
5) Can flippers don't really want your ore, they want your tears.
6) Finding friends and join good corps makes EVE much more enjoyable.
7) Most importantly, EVE is a game. You should be having fun. Take the time to get the skills you need for what ever you want to do. Having a good skill set will make EVE more enjoyable, be patient. Training skills to Level 5 takes a while. Consider doing that after you have a good base for your occupation to level 3 or 4. |

Gritz1
Tranquility's Fallen
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 17:05:00 -
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Always check your prices before you buy stuff, I had a bad habit of just hitting buy thinking it was giving me the best price overall, I was wrong.
Read about the ship you are about to fly. This game takes a bit of work and studying to actually play (it really does!) When you are about to hop into a new ship, do a google search about it. Look at its attributes, its bonuses. Look at others fits around the internet, watch some videos etc. Your ship will last quite a bit longer when you actually know what it can do, and how to properly fit.
Also, just ask questions. When you are stumped, its always okay to ask. I was lost when I first started playing but by asking questions to the right people, I learned very quickly the basics. |

GalGamJD
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 17:24:00 -
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I Had trouble with security status and GCF LOL. i would undock in Jita and wonder why everyone shot me after i shot the station. :P "Everyone has a bullet with their name on it. The trick is to avoid it as long as possible." |

Thomas Newton
Starlight Operations Starlight Network
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 17:25:00 -
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Don't fly with a plex on board couse plexes can be activated anywhere no matter where you are at the moment.
When I was new I thought it can only be activated if you are on the same station with your plex so when I was traveling I brought it with myself in the cargohol.
Losing it in a fight could have been my biggest mistake in EVE. |
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Bado Sten
Republican Guard
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 17:28:00 -
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Very I early I got targetted at a gate in high-sec. Having read all about how bad people could be in EVE (trust noone!), I decided offence was the best defence.
I was very surprised to lose my frigate to CONCORD 2 sec. after I fired my guns :D |

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
80
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Posted - 2011.09.16 17:35:00 -
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EvE is 8 years old and the overview is still bugs out after all this time.
If a gate appears flashy red and has a skull. It is still a gate and not a war target and therefore cannot be shot. |

Lazarus Sparrow
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 17:45:00 -
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I learned by experience:
1. This is not Star Trek, don't use lasers with Caldari ships (since they have high shields).
2. Don't join Demonfuge Malevolent's corporation: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/jeku0/carebear_tip_check_the_kb_of_the_corp_your_joining/
3. Do buy implants when you can afford it, and make use of neural remaps. Time is a scarce resource in Eve Online, so make sure you have attributes that earn skill points efficiently. In other words, if you have Intelligence/memory attributes, be careful of training long skills that requires that require other attributes. |

Ervol Libra
Pinky and the Brain corp
7
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Posted - 2011.09.16 17:45:00 -
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When making my first character I actually believed what the backstory behind them said. So I ended up with a Caldari pilot and completely useless for pvp, had to crosstrain fast back then wasting a lot of training time. (Went to Gallente which later on became a bad choice so then I just crosstrained for all races)
So when making a character look around the forums, ask around. The story behind it can say things like Caldari being militairy n such while they aint. |

Maplefox
Black-Watch Corporation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 17:48:00 -
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Safety & Security : One should never fully rely on Concord to be the absolute protectors of High Sec. Especially those who are starting mining ,salvaging and hauling careers - NEVER should you go AFK for long periods of time. PVP players will notice this easily and will time their attack with precision and often will have Destroyers, [Battle]/Cruisers or even Battleships with cheap but efficient fittings that can rip a mining ship apart within seconds. Have your GÇÿOverview set so you can see these particular ship types in the system you are in so when one warps into the field, youGÇÖll know it right away. Concord should never be relied upon to protect you. Always be on alert and have an escape root planned when you come face to face with them targeting your ship. As quoted from the movie Zombieland When in doubt, know your way out!
Flying Your Ship : Keep this in mind GÇô Just because you can fly a particular ship doesnGÇÖt necessarily mean you can operate it to its fullest potential. A battleship is not what every new capsuleer should aim for. Go for a frigate or cruiser and make sure you can fly it well. Buying a battleship and then losing it because you canGÇÖt operate it is a stupid way to lose ISK.
Trust : As someone said before in this forum post... Never put your full trust on anyone, in particular - strangers. In this case; should someone randomly ask you for >RR< (Remote Repair) -- Do not accept it. Accepting a fleet invite or inviting them to fleet to remote repair them with drones or a module fitted to your ship to repair them is a bad move. Should the person who is asking to be RR'd and they happen to have a friend with an aggression count down on - RRing them is an act that will grant the person who has this aggressive stance with them to attack you without the reaction of Concord.
Demands of ISK : Everyone on EVE will find themselves in a situation one day where they are faced in a situation of involuntary combat with another player. At some point, you will be warp scrambled and trapped from escaping and he or she who is attacking you will open a conversation window with you (the victim) and will demand a certain amount for your release. This option is entirely yours to decide what the outcome is however there are two main ones to consider. Lose your ship GÇô Lose your ISK GÇô or GÇô Lose your ship and Keep your ISK. ThereGÇÖs no guarantee that when you pay them their demands that they will let you go. Not everyone on EVE honors his/her word.
Know Your Enemies & Allies : At some point in your EVE experience you will encounter griefers, ganks, trolls, etcGǪ They could or could not be following you but if it concerns your mission or what you are doing and they start picking on you one day GÇô Keep them tabbed! Cause without doubt they will be watching you. Add them and their corp to a particular standing you deem appropriate. Look up their corp history, their background, and their alliances and mark those too! Chances are they will have friends and alts in those corps for scouting and planning attack strategies against you. However when you have these corps marked you will know whether or not if they are in the system by keeping an eye on local. ItGÇÖs a safety precaution that could save your ship. Always know who youGÇÖre dealing with.
Expect the Worst : The hardest part to explain through words but probably the most important point anyone can tell you whoGÇÖs had experience in EVE. GÇ£Never fly what you cannot afford to loseGÇ¥. This expression relates not just to ships but to your assets (loot, cargo, etcGǪ) Never can you be truly certain about keeping it. Keep this notion in your head that, GÇÿWhat you might have today can get destroyed/stolen tomorrow or wheneverGÇÖ. Be prepared to lose and youGÇÖll be prepared for the expenses consequent the loss. Keep going, donGÇÖt give up and youGÇÖll get back on your feet in no time.
Good Luck! |

Jako Nova
Epsilon Inc STORM.
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 17:59:00 -
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Use [CTRL] and left-click on the overview to lock a target.
It is embarrassing how long I spent chasing targets up and down the overview, right-clicking, and selecting lock-target from the drop-down menu. |

Kimo Khan
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 18:07:00 -
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Never Try doing the Epic Sisters of Eve arc while in a Faction Warfare Militia.
When I first started the box game gave immediate access to the FW militia. Now you can get into it by completing the Advanced Combat Tutorial mission series. If you join Faction Warfare, just make sure you drop the faction warfare before trying the Sisters of Eve Arc. I did not the first time and saw my ship blown up by Caldari Navy when I went to that space. |

Demon Azrakel
Defiant.. Narwhals Ate My Duck
20
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Posted - 2011.09.16 18:23:00 -
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Mistake: Mining
How to avoid: don't mine. |

Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
43
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Posted - 2011.09.16 18:23:00 -
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2 things never change in EVE:
n-¦1 - there is nothing that can substitute a good corp. n-¦2 - Murphy's law. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Cunane Jeran
7
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Posted - 2011.09.16 18:27:00 -
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You can click the icons on the targeting box to shut off that module.
Fantastic for tractoring/mining and you have no idea which miner/target is hitting which target and you need to shut them off (Side note been on and off since 2003 and I only found this out two weeks ago) |
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Plyn
Three 6 MaFiA KRYSIS.
4
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Posted - 2011.09.16 18:27:00 -
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Don't be afraid to jump out there and try PvP.
Many people in the game are frightened at the thought of losing their ship/pod, because they translate this to losing effort they put in the game. However, if you end up having fun isn't that what you came here to do to begin with?
PvP Corps/Alliances NEED pilots who are willing to fly frigates, which are your current specialty! They are really cheap, and the supply is huge. You don't really have a lot to lose, so give it a shot! Most of these guys will outright buy you frigates if you ask them.
If you get killed, don't let it bother you. You don't expect to be the best football player the first time you ever step onto a field, so don't get bent out of shape if you lose your first "match". Fit up and try again. Come2Nullsec |

JeckrothX
Mine 'N' Refine The Unforgiven Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 18:31:00 -
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don't let anyone tell you your too new to pvp. i think in my second month i made my first kill it was a cormorant vs cormorant, the other guy was 8 months older than me and i still won. and plus in most fleets these days the smaller/faster the ship the better. so don't sit there and think "ahhh crap i'll never be able to do anything in this dirty merlin!" just look on youtube i'm sure theres many videos of people mass blobbing others in noobships! |

ALEX THAGREAT
The Riot Act Sacra Cupola
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 18:45:00 -
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hey, i am about 10 months in the game, and laugh when i think of when i was new, and see myself in every new pilot that is just as confused as i was. EVE IS HARD for real, its intimidating, and only the strong survive. when you are new, the most important thing you can do is get in a good player corp. best bet is to find a pve corp with at least 20 people in it that are willing to teach you a thing or 2. learn early to make checking local a habit. it doesnt really make sense to do so in highsec unless your at war, but if you always check, you will never forget to when it is necessary. get you social skills built up fast, so you wont be stuck running lvl 1's. i think your first goal in eve is to get to a lvl 3 agent. they are the moneymakers, and even newish pilots can solo them. also, get in every roam or pvp experience possible, and get used to losing ships. most new pilots can still be a great help as tacklers, and in most corps you will have your ship replaced anyway if its lost serving your corp. NEVER let someone in local "test thier tracking" on your new BC. lol, they will just shoot you down for no reason. and learn the mechanics of the game first so you dont accidentally do something that gives a jackass the right to shoot at you. oh and make sure even if you are taking a break from the game to keep your training active. have a goal in your training, but never rush into a ship, make sure you can fit it well before you buy it. and 2 final things, have fun, and fly safe. |

Fred Munro
Silicis Luguolo
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 18:46:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:I'm talking about spending a week trying to find the old Villard Wheel that never existed. Oh, was that not the best mission ever =P
I once named my (then) favorite ship Incursus "1 Villard Wheel", and asked someone in Jita to pay me the 10 Million they were offering for "1 Villard Wheel"... Alas, they didn't pay up 
My advice would be actually click most of the buttons in the NeoCom first, it took me three days to notice the "No Skill In Training" notice... 
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Insane Randomness
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 18:55:00 -
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Celadin wrote:I was getting owned in early missions for lack of knowledge about how to fit a ship. After someone mentioned railguns in rookie chat as being long-range, I though "score, I'll just blast 'em from far away!". After a bit of wrangling with the market system (totally got lost in that ocean), I found some. Needless to say, I realized some time later why my Minmatar ships still weren't faring so well. I think I discovered artillery in my third week.
The moral? Stick with the weapons that fit your starting race. It'll save you a lot of heartache. Better yet, check out your ship's info and find out just what you should be fitting to make the most of what you have.
This was MY mistake as well, among many others. I remember my first toon was Gallente, and I was so excited to finally get into a destroyer. And then I picked up a couple guns from some enemy NPC wrecks. Artillery cannons on a catalyst destroyer. I think I discovered that I wasgoing about the gu thing wrong about three weeks after I started. That was when I got a vexor and some drones.
Second bit of advice, don't loot the yellow cans. Best rule of thumb is if it's white, it's yours.
Third bit of advice is listen loosely to older players. I'm a solid caldari fan, and I suggest anyone except for PvP'ers to go caldari, simplybecause of the fire and forget simplicity of missiles, but just cause somenoe says that, don't take their advice. You can still make considerable ISK and fly some awesome ships if you learn what you like. For intance, even though hyrbids are underpowered at the moment, there are some very cool, very powerful gallente ships out there. Ask around whats good. Also don't forget, what is necessarily good isn't always fun. I'm switching from caldari to amarrian ships currently because Caldari for me is getting extremely old.
Fourth bit is find a corp ASAP. Some older players are very cool about helping you start out, and many will even give you a bit of ISK for free. Trust me, after running L4 missions and gaining about 50 mil a mission, ten million credits isn't much to me. But ten mil t a new player? Thatsa first cruiser. Theres a bit of advice in there for older players too. Alliances with younger players could turn out to be advantageous in the long run.
Final bit of advice to new players: BE PATIENT. The Golem or Tengu isn't going to come over night. It takes real hard work and dedication to get there. It takes focus. After the first month though, you needn't worry, skills will start flying by, even the longer ones, just keep your skill que filled and you should be good. And don't give up just because it takes forever. Soemtimes the early days can be very cool to go through. If you want a bit of fun or adventure, my suggestion is take a cheap ship, and get out of the faction space you started in. if your amarr, fly to minmatar space, and see what it's like. Caldari? Check out the freedom gallente pace has to offer. |

Chris Wheeler
Massively Mob
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 19:04:00 -
[46] - Quote
Jako Nova wrote:Use [CTRL] and left-click on the overview to lock a target.
It is embarrassing how long I spent chasing targets up and down the overview, right-clicking, and selecting lock-target from the drop-down menu.
Yeah. 5 years or so here. |

Dalilus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 19:08:00 -
[47] - Quote
Don't fly what you can't afford to lose....for example: - When I started out I upgraded to the best frig my wallet would allow me to buy without having the skills to fly it. Rage quit after losing half a dozen or so rifters to mission npcs. - Being a carebear who only ran missions and accepted any mission I had no idea low-sec was dangerous because no one ever had blown me up. Rage quit for a month after some pirates blew up my destroyer..BWAAAAAAAA....said destroyer had taken a few weeks to purchaee and fit. - Approaching a gate in high sec someone targeted me and being a noob I fired at the offender. Gate guns blew up my cruiser....did not rage quit but was disapointed. - Having played for a few years and having millions of skill points it was time to go back to low sec and rat in asteroid belts. My battle cruiser was blown up by a pirate that had more sp than I and a better sense on how to fit ships for pvp. - Got my first marauder and as owners are wont to do that baby was fitted with the best and most expensive bling available for sale in Jita. Even carried a couple of exotic dancers, some Quafe and a janitor in the cargohold to fly like a Boss. Needless to say a 10 man gang in cheap but effective battle ships showed up at a gate and I was dead before CONCORD showed up. So I got mad and hired a merc corp and paid isk to get the cadavers of those gankers. - Tried wormholes once and could not get out. After a week of trying to get out while being persecuted but sleepers and the local residents I saig goodbye to my first T3 cruiser and self destructed. My corpies still laugh at that one. - ....and the list goes on......
Right now am looking to purchase my first super carrier, anyone want to bet how long that baby will last? Lol, this is EVE love it or hate it it is NEVER boring!! |

Noatalba Hyades
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 19:09:00 -
[48] - Quote
And now for something completely different: TRADING. 
First, there are two ways to do trading in EVE. One is the way everyone thinks of first: Go somewhere, buy stuff cheap, go somewhere else, sell for more, make bucks. Okay it works. But the time you spend flying around is a waste.
Hint: If you want to trade, look up the skills marketing, daytrading, procurement and visibility. They enable you to buy, sell and modify your market orders remotely. It doesn't take too many skill points and it can be worth it.
Now, before you're jumping with joy and forget about everything else you could do in EVE, here's a serious warning:
If you're in a PVP war, you know when to be on guard (when you're in space) and if you get tired / your back hurts / wife or girlfriend aggro gets too serious a threat in real life / whatever else, you can dock (or log out at a safe spot) and relax (or in the case of wife/girlfriend do some other kind of "work" ;) ).
In a serious market war, be prepared to be on guard for hours without end. Be prepared to operate your mouse the ENTIRE time during that time, because you and your enemy will be outbidding each other madly for a looong time. I'm talking about getting close to physical strain injury to your mouse hand. I kid you not. I did it once and I regretted it (though I admit it was fun as long as my hand didn't hurt).
Also, if you decide to do trading...
1. Never EVVAH trade when under the influence of your favorite drug. EVE does not ask you "are you sure?" if you have a typo in your market order's price.
2. Even if you're sober, check at least twice before hitting Enter or the OK button with your new / modified orders. I learned that especially well after wanting to set up a buy order for two T2 cruisers at around 100 M each and the game decided there was one more "0" in my oder than I thought.
Losing 1.8 B in a second really hurts.  |

Red Rose
Thundercats
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 19:15:00 -
[49] - Quote
I thought a fully plated ship is much better than a resistence tanked ship - the more the better so i went out with my fully plated thorax to figth the evil npcs..... |

Visitmaniac
Mining Juggernaut
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 19:39:00 -
[50] - Quote
With so much to do and train for on eve do some reading up on the web and test the waters of a few different things. There is something for everyone on eve. PVP, Mining, Industry, Worm holes, probes, moon mining, planet harvesting, missions, NPC hunter, Saving mining ships, join or create a corp, invest in corps, alliance, wars, Player owned structures and more! The most important thing is to have fun and enjoy your alt life here at eve :) you'll be hooked for life. If only I could clone myself for real :( |
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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
20
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Posted - 2011.09.16 19:45:00 -
[51] - Quote
You can reload your weapons if you carry ammunition in your cargo hold.
Probably covered by the tutorial, but I never took it. I always thought the cargo hold was just that; something to carry cargo in.
"Few have found anger in solace, than solace in anger."
"Sincerity is a game best played by the insincere"
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Iluminat
Sharp Dressed Man
3
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Posted - 2011.09.16 19:47:00 -
[52] - Quote
Use the testserver !!!!!!! |

Dividius
PORUS- InterStellar Mining Corporation Out of Control A
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 19:49:00 -
[53] - Quote
When running a distribution mission, make sure you put the cargo in your hold before you undock. If you catch it right after you click the undock button, you've still got a few seconds to abort. Otherwise you'll have to wait twenty seconds before you can dock again and pick it up.
Don't combine an expanded cargohold with an overdrive. They cancel each other.
If you're going to use drones, get your skills up high enough to use the Tech 2 drones. It doesn't take long and they're tons better.
Research in the NPC stations in hi-sec typically has at least a 30-day waiting period. Forget about it or get used to it.
Before jumping into low-sec, pull up the starmap. Go to statistics and check for active players, ships destroyed in last hour, pods destroyed, etc.
You can use the starmap to locate different types of planets for when you want to set up a PI colony.
When setting up a new colony in PI, right-click on the planet and show other players' networks. Don't put your colony/extractors right on top of someone else's since it'll affect how many resources you extract (if you're going for the same ones).
If a can/wreck is yellow it belongs to someone else. Taking from it will leave you open to attack from them for 15 minutes. If it's blue you can take anything you want.
Always keep your clone up to date. |

Noopy Nemra
I'm Losing My Mind
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 19:53:00 -
[54] - Quote
Beware of indiscriminate use of a smartbomb: around your drones, in high-sec, ... |

StonerPhReaK
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
2
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Posted - 2011.09.16 20:55:00 -
[55] - Quote
I trained Citadel Torpedoes to put on my shiney new megathron. Took forever! Then realized (after torp 5 was complete ofc) that a citadel launcher used way more cpu than could ever be dreamed of on a mega.
My advise :Right Click and Show Info on EVERYTHING!
Oh And : Read and re-read everything thrice. |

Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
2
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Posted - 2011.09.16 21:44:00 -
[56] - Quote
Enjoy using the Eve Fitting Tool to experiment with setups - it will give you an idea of how they will perform.
It's also fun:
Eve Fitting Tool
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Domyn
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 22:16:00 -
[57] - Quote
When i was starting out as a noob i joined a small but friendly corporation right away. I was invited by the person that got me into eve pretty much right away. Alot of their good advice kept me from making any real noobish mistakes
So that would be my advice: join a corp & make friends. its a good way to get started and learn alot about eve! |

Samroski
Games Inc.
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 22:24:00 -
[58] - Quote
Did not know skill training had to be turned on My first silly mistake was not to start skill training for the first 10 days. I trained all the new skills I got to level I, and then thought they would get automatically trained as I used them in game. I could have kicked myself when I realized my mistake. For a new player 10 days of training is a lifetime! I am sure my slow progress in Eve is linked to this :)
How to avoid: You must train a skill 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. Skill training can be started from your Character Sheet.
Launching containers is not enough I did not know cans had to be anchored and wondered why they disappeared overnight. I though launching them was enough. One day I saw someone steal one of my cans, and realized what was going on.
How to avoid: Train the skill Anchoring to level I. Now you can anchor containers in 0.7 space and below. It takes a while to anchor items (there is a countdown timer), and a light on the container changes colour when anchored, and a squiggly symbol under the container changes. Now, no one can steal your container. You can right-click the container to get all the options, including one to set a password, so the contents are also safe.
Right-clicking to sell items I was mining in a frigate in a remote system in Heimatar to make money. My friend, who had also started eve a week ago, told me, "Refine, refine, refine. Refine is the way to go." I had poor refining skills, but refined the minute amounts of ore I mined and right clicked to sell. I noticed I was getting less money by refining, but my friend insisted that he'd done the math. . Strangely he was mining in the same system. To be honest I did not know that mineral prices were set by players, and remote systems generally have extremely low buy orders. I thought I must be selling to NPC orders.
How to avoid: Be a little patient and take your items to a nearby trade/mission hub where you will get a much better price. You can also right-click and View Market Details to see where you can get a good price. Even better to train the skill Trade and put the items up for sale yourself.
I also fell for this Ransom Scam: It was a quiet day at Hek. I commented in Local that it had never been this quiet. Soon afterwards I got an invite to a friendly fight to structure. I had a newely acquired super tanked Drake and thought why not. He named his ship and I had no clue what it was, but said ok.
We met at a nearby planet, and he told me that I had to steal an item out of a can to get the fight going. Soon as I had picked the item up, one of his friends warped in and they took my ship down to 10% hull and asked for 40m ransom. I had spent all my money on the Drake, and would not have paid anyway.
The experience was totally worth it, not only for the lessons learned but for the feelings and emotions during and after the encounter. No other game does this, and Eve is tremendously more fun if one can enjoy the feelings triggered by encounters and ship losses.
How to avoid: Never trust anyone in Eve, without good reason. Never take an item out of a can that does not belong to you. Try and take friends along in tough situations. |

Lord Walben
BWE Special Forces
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 22:46:00 -
[59] - Quote
First! Do not try to join the Goonswarm when drunk.
I also once did a stupid thing when I was first told how Logi were always accepted in fleets. I asked if I could solo a level 5 mission in a Logi xD. I got this answer: Do bears take a crap in a toilet? |

Charlie Jacobson
Homeworld Republic United Homeworlds
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 23:29:00 -
[60] - Quote
My first loss: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=12569562
A perfect example of how to NOT fit your ship. I attacked someone who stole from one of my wrecks. Don't do that either :P |
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Rath Kelbore
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
1
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Posted - 2011.09.16 23:42:00 -
[61] - Quote
Get blown up a lot. Don't be afraid to go to low/null and get into fights. People say you need x ship or x skills to get into pvp or whatever. They're lying. You might die a lot but t1 frigs are easy to come by.
Fight solo, fight with groups, blob people, be blobbed, fight outnumbered and win, fight outnumbered and lose, ect ect. Eve is the only worthwhile game left that has open world loot dropping pvp. Go PVP!!
On the PVE side, do whatever you want, don't let people tell you "you need this ship before you run level 4's blah blah". If you enjoy running level fours in your battlecruiser or whatever then do so.
Realise there's plenty of other ways to make isk in pve combat other than doing lvl 4's. Null sec plexing can be fun, and no you don't have to be in a null sec corp/alliance to do so.
S'all I got for now. |

Hanius Valm
Freelancer Union Unaffiliated
0
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Posted - 2011.09.16 23:53:00 -
[62] - Quote
At first in eve its tempting to want to try everything: You want to mine and build (or craft as some wow transfer students call it initially) your own ships, mission run, live in worm hole space because you read a neat article about it, etc etc. You've got skills training left right and center for refining, for guns, for missiles, for that cool looking interceptor. You've got aspirations to get into lvl4 missions, and at the same time corner some undeveloped section of the market.
My advice is this, focus on one area initally: missions. When you first start out its the easiest way to make isk, and while doing this learn about the other areas of the game. I learnt the hard way that all those hours sunk into skilling for my first hulk were worthless as I could earn more doing missions in a raven.
Sink skill points into boosting a progressive line of combat ships first (eg kestrel, caracal, drake, raven), and their related weapon system, in this case missile skills, as well as some social skills to advance you up the npc corp standings faster. Those skillpoints will never be wasted. Tech 2 strip miners, you might later wish you hadn't bothered with. Don't cross train races at this point, if you play the game long enough you most probably will end up doing so. But save that for when all those core skills to do with cap, extending you shield, battlecruiser, etc are all at lvl 5. It may seem like ages, but its worth it in the long haul.
People will tell you fly this race, or this race is better for pvp. Its a never ending arguement. The fact of the matter is early in the game a well skilled focused player will bring more to a gang, than one trying to get into both a hurricane and an abaddon simultanously.
Get a good bit of experience playing the game before delving into other areas besides missions, you can sink alot of isk, your free time, and skillpoints into something only to realise, oh dear, I was earning more isk per hour running lvl 3's in my drake. One exception being pvp, once you can fly a frigate with some mediocre lvl 4 skills, and understand some basic game mechanics like session timers you'll add to any fleet.
Always have a good mission runner ship and agent in empire to fall back on, loose as many ships as you want, grind and fit out an expensive WH plexer for example, but always have that one ship and an agent to return to so you can grind up more isk if you next big throw of the dice doesn't work.
And above treat Jita local like the spam filter in your email inbox, ignore it completely. Don't even read it, no good can come of clicking on a spam mail, and the same is true of all local contracts.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
194
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Posted - 2011.09.17 01:05:00 -
[63] - Quote
CCP Fallout wrote:So, I was thinking about what it was like for me when I was truly new at EVE Online, and the little silly mistakes that I made that now, as a veteran player, I laugh at myself over. I'm talking about spending a week trying to find the old Villard Wheel that never existed. Oh, was that not the best mission ever =P But I think one of my biggest silly mistakes was assuming that it would be bad for me if I took every single mission that I was offered. This meant that I was trying to do missions that I really wasn't qualified to do. For example: taking missions where the final item was too large for my hold, or missions where my ship and/or fit wasn't the best thing to use, and not learning that after rather gorgeous explosions, I probably should upgrade from my very low-end ships and modules. Think back to when you were a noob. What silly mistakes did you make, and how would you advise new players to avoid making them?
I didn't go to 0.0 until I was almost 3 months into the game. I should have done it at least a month sooner. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2011.09.17 01:20:00 -
[64] - Quote
Get ready to die! A lot! :D Ignore these 'don't take from yellow can' messages...what they mean is; 'If you take from a can, be aware of the possible consequences.' This covers a lot, actually; shoot, buy, steal, fly whatever and go wherever you want, just try to be aware of the possible consequences. Eve has little in the way of morality ( excepting what players choose or can enforce with power ) but it really can have devastating and entertaining consequences. |

Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.09.17 01:40:00 -
[65] - Quote
Blindly autopiloting and therefore ended up in 0.0 without realizing it. I had my first taste of a gate camp back then.
Falling for a can-flipping trap was also my second hard-learned lesson. |

Erudius
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.09.17 05:09:00 -
[66] - Quote
First,
If CCP announces that normal daily downtime is going to be longer for some sort of update, maintenance, etc...
Set a LONG Training Skill
...things happen and unfortunately the "hamsters" stop spinning the wheels once in a while.
Second,
If you are unsure about what to train (new characters always have lots of short time frame skills), find a skill that takes longer than 24 hours and set it up at the END of your training queue.
You can always add/remove short training time skills above it. This gives you flexibility of ALWAYS having something training while you plan your character
Third,
Have Fun! The Universe is YOURS!!!
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Johanna Tychi
Alcoholic Heavy Industries
0
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Posted - 2011.09.17 05:45:00 -
[67] - Quote
I didn't know until the ISK podcast pointed me to it, that you can queue invention jobs in laboratories. until then, i thought that i have to wait for the research spots, once used by someone else to be liberated once again. |

le chatlier
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.17 06:02:00 -
[68] - Quote
CCP Fallout wrote:So, I was thinking about what it was like for me when I was truly new at EVE Online, and the little silly mistakes that I made that now, as a veteran player, I laugh at myself over. I'm talking about spending a week trying to find the old Villard Wheel that never existed. Oh, was that not the best mission ever =P
I made that mission even better. My first character was a caldari (CCP should REALLY have made the amarr/minnie image-ry more awesome than some monks walking around a temple somewhere/some ferals living on a pile of rust that didn't even have a cockpit in it, should have featured pewpew lasers and loadsaguns images more) and fresh from being a warcrack addict, I thought that I could shoot that brutix parked 5km up from SAK HQ with all the drones out. I found out about CONCORDOKKEN twice, and then failed the villard wheels mission because my stuff got blown up :(
why'd you get rid of it ccp? villard wheels are what made newb corp chat so much fun 
at least we still have THE DEVICE!  |

Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard Talocan United
8
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Posted - 2011.09.17 06:40:00 -
[69] - Quote
A more succinct way to phrase the trust issue:
"Never trust someone you can't punch." |

Xer Jin
The Dex Initiative
0
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Posted - 2011.09.17 06:51:00 -
[70] - Quote
Just cause you can get that next lvl mission dosent mean you should do it ^^ helps to make a friend and do the mission together join my Corp "the Dex" we will help too |
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Kristopher Arione
Clearly Compensating
0
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Posted - 2011.09.17 07:48:00 -
[71] - Quote
I learned to use containers when transporting expensive goods, In my second week I was suicide ganked in Jita carrying 7 cladari navy cruise launchers in a frigate. I was cargo scanned on my trip back to the trade hub. I had bough them t for cheap (300 mil for then then 450 mil of launchers) a few systems over in preparation for my battleship skill and my shiny navy raven a friend had gifted to me. Also never to auto pilot with cargo |

Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
0
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Posted - 2011.09.17 08:21:00 -
[72] - Quote
If you jump right into pvp and keep lossing SP's it means you just spent your first year never updating your bloody clone.
Yes I did that for my first year lossing sp's every time I got poded becouse I did not update my clone.
So update your clone and stay on top of it. Hell if I get with in 1mil of the cap of my clone I update it now lol. |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
3
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Posted - 2011.09.17 08:38:00 -
[73] - Quote
Keep in mind that you have two more chars on your account.
Sure, when starting, there is soooo much to train on your main that putting time to train alts up seems a waste, but for me, it wasn-¦t until six months that I got around to invest a month to train two market alts up. In the following month, I earned about half the money I had made those six months before.
Even better, a half decent station-trading market alt can be trained in less than a week, all you need is Trade and Retail for the slots and Accounting and Broker Relations to lower the transaction costs. Finally Margin Trading will allow you to make the most of your money. Learn about the market mechanics (why are some buy orders green? ), find good market places and a few good trading items and you have a nice passive income. |

Agnor BooK
Mr. Wednesday's Privateers
0
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Posted - 2011.09.17 08:51:00 -
[74] - Quote
1. Train the core competency skills early, I spent a good long time not being able to fit most of what I wanted because I only paid attention to the ship command skills and weapons.
2. Just because you can fly a ship doesn't mean you can do anything with it. Learn to fit your ship for what you want to do. PVE? Fit for the mission. PVP? Change your fit or you'll probably lose fast. |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
152

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Posted - 2011.09.17 08:59:00 -
[75] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:
I didn't go to 0.0 until I was almost 3 months into the game. I should have done it at least a month sooner.
I made the exact opposite mistake (well, I wouldn't call it a mistake, really, just a suboptimal choice) -- I went to 0.0 after 2 weeks in the game and spent the next month trying to train the skills for at least a half-baked Raven fit. Took me a week before I could clear even a single a belt spawn.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Louis deGuerre
Malevolence.
16
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Posted - 2011.09.17 09:03:00 -
[76] - Quote
Your drones can be controlled using keyboard shortcuts. There are various other keyboard shortcuts which will make your life so so so much easier. I only flew Gallente drone boats for two months before I found out 
Look for a nice corp as soon as you can. If it turns out they suck, just leave and find a better one.
Best guide to EVE, if it's too good to be true, you're going to get scammed/betrayed/blown up/ransomed/robbed.  FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! |

Acki Juc
0utbreak Outbreak.
0
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Posted - 2011.09.17 09:11:00 -
[77] - Quote
Make sure your scout knows what he's doing so your entire fleet doesn't land in a bubble and get smartbombed to death. |

Isis Tavore
Ashfell Celestial Equilibrium POD-SQUAD
0
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Posted - 2011.09.17 09:13:00 -
[78] - Quote
Probably repeating most of the above:
1) Avoid Rancer like the plague, and don't be a clever arse thinking you can sneak through it at 4am GMT. Americans are there. Americans are waiting. To shoot you in the face.
2) Join a decent Corp as quickly as you can. Improves your game immeasurably.
3) Avoid mining unless you have a very high boredom threshold.
4) Don't break your arm building a garden wall, as you won't be able to play the game for a while. Although, it does make waiting for Heavy Missiles V to complete much easier. |

Angel Scott
5th Front enterprises Mayhem.
1
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Posted - 2011.09.17 09:15:00 -
[79] - Quote
Read Sun Tzu: The Art of War.
That is all. |

malaire
37
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Posted - 2011.09.17 09:59:00 -
[80] - Quote
If you see ISK-making opporturnity which requires initial investment, never go for it unless you can afford to lose that initial investment. There are many kinds of scams around, and it takes time to learn them all. So don't fly what you can't afford to lose and also don't invest what you can't afford to lose.
Also: Don't read Jita-local. It is full of scams and at least in the beginning you most likely won't have enough knowledge to understand them all. I lost 300 mil when I thought I understood it better than scammer ...
There was contract in Jita local selling certain rare item for big sum, maybe 400 mil, and it was advertised as great deal. Of course I knew contracts in Jita-local are usually scams, so I checked market price of that item. Someone was selling the item there for only 300 mil, and I also saw buy order at over 300 mil. So I realized that contract was overpriced and I could make quick profit if I instead buy it from market at 100 mil cheaper price, and then sell.
So I bought it, and tried to sell. But I couldn't. I doublechecked that buy order, and realized that I need 9 of those items before I can sell and of course there weren't so many items in whole region. Checking market history I saw that the item I now had was only worth maybe 20 mil ISK. (Later I learned about Margin Trading scamming, and that even with 9 such items I could not have sold them.) Carebear -á* -áTrader -á* -áPerfect Music-á-á* -áNever Scamming -á* -áNever Pirating |
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Sered Woollahra
No Fixed Abode LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
0
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Posted - 2011.09.17 10:57:00 -
[81] - Quote
It took me a few days before I realized that only wrecks with solid triangles held loot 
It took me a while before I realized I should stick with one NPC corp to run missions for, in order to progress to higher levels sooner.
I sold everything I looted for the highest bid price instead of seeing what the real market value was..
It took me too long to find a good newbie corp to join - should have done that asap.
It took me too long to go to nullsec. |

Keno Skir
Vectis Systems
1
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Posted - 2011.09.17 12:22:00 -
[82] - Quote
Noatalba Hyades wrote:1. Never EVVAH trade when under the influence of your favorite drug. EVE does not ask you "are you sure?" if you have a typo in your market order's price. 2. Even if you're sober, check at least twice before hitting Enter or the OK button with your new / modified orders. I learned that especially well after wanting to set up a buy order for two T2 cruisers at around 100 M each and the game decided there was one more "0" in my oder than I thought. Losing 1.8 B in a second really hurts. 
Interestingly enough i got drunk the other day and spent 190million isk on a cruiser because i saw the price at a glance with three less zeros on the end :/
My EVE advice so far? All the mining and mission running and trade is the bread, the jam is the people-people interaction that occurs around it all. It was like a whole new game when i first realised theres more going on than grinding for the next ship/module and focused my attention on the people of eve and their wars and scams and little intricacies. Imerse yourself in the multiplayer aspect, if you're a miner do it in a gang and think of a way to do it better between you, if you're a lonewolf at least stay in contact with others of the same interest. Even a solo trader will eventually do better with a scout or two. A game with 50,000 people who play side by side without speaking to each other is a small game, EVE is a biiig game as long as you can find the right people to play with.
In my corp the new guys usually start out as salvagers and clean up battlesites untill their tackling skills train, then tackle untill they decide to train something better. But the best thing about joining a good corp isn't the easier access to isk, and maybe not even the assistance with training and loadouts (although a close second), it's just that when your months of work are destroyed in a second you have a family to tell the story to and laugh instead of rage quit. I have a feeling most people who rage quit early on just didn't have anyone to tell their story to, and nobody to laugh with them.
Ks |

Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
13
|
Posted - 2011.09.17 17:47:00 -
[83] - Quote
If something sounds to good to be true, it probably is, avoid any corps that ask for joining fee, free freighter service to get your stuff to there space etc etc.
Another useful thing is to not depends on the CCP support team, if you lose a ship to lag or bug dont waste time typing a petition out...it could be spent making the isk back for the new ship. If anything is going to force you away from this game its the utter terrible support team.
Also never take from a yellow can Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |

N'maro Makari
13
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Posted - 2011.09.17 18:42:00 -
[84] - Quote
Ok heres two of the most important.
1) ALWAYS BUY 2 OF EVERYTHING
2) If another player asks you to come to a remote location, alone, for any reason, or says you can just take from his/her jetcan. DONT DO IT.YOU WILL BE PODDED N'maro Makari |

Kimpaz
Swedish Px 77 The Kadeshi
0
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Posted - 2011.09.17 21:07:00 -
[85] - Quote
Illadelph Justice wrote:Don't do something incredibly boring just because someone told you it was a good idea.
For example, don't spend months training a hulk on your main character because someone told you it would help you pay for your PvP ships. This happened to me, and I haven't touched a hulk in nearly two years. I wish I could put all those millions of SP into something useful.
Also don't mine just because. There are far better ways to make isk. If you're going to be a miner, you have to WANT to be a miner, just like beekeepers have to want to keep bees and taxidermists have to want to fill animals with sand.
Haha some Eddie Izzard there, always nice.  ...and I agree with what you're saying. I'm a miner (mainly in null) and that's because I like mining and manufacturing.
You should make money your way and not "the right way". |

Nak hak
8
|
Posted - 2011.09.17 22:03:00 -
[86] - Quote
Here's my POV of my mistakes. No doubt a few repeats.
1.Join a good corp as soon as possible.
2.Leave your first corp when you can't learn anymore from other corp members. Find new one.
3.Fly what ever you are having fun in. Fly it until you are longer having fun in it. Don't fly something because someone tell you to fly it. They might not be looking out for your best interests.
4.Don't train your main character to be a jack of all trades. I feel I wasted a few skill points on weak mining and weak industry skills. Should have saved it for the alts.
5.When moving to a new system, don't move all your stuff. Take only what you need, and/or buy what you need at the new system. Sell what you find to be useless for you, and store what might be useful in future at the old system. Moving is a pain.
6.Build mission bases. This would be the system you do a number of missions. Honestly, I tend to create a base for everything( PVP, PVE, Trading,....etc.). I find having my PVE ships and PVP ships in the same station/system to be useless. Rarely fine combining bases useful.
7.In PVE, always double check that you have accepted a mission before undocking station. While in mission space, make sure you have retrieved the game token (item) required to complete the mission. This would have saved me a number of jumps.
8.In PVE, have more ammunition then you think you need for the missions. I learned this when a rogue drone web and scammed my Catalyst as I ran out of rounds. Took me way to long to get away for the little bugger.
9. In PVP, when starting out carry less faction ammunition and nano paste then you think you need. You are going die sooner then later. So, why drop good loot?
10.Take a Agony Unleashed Basic PVP course. Sooner then you think you should take it. Wish I would took my classes sooner.
11.In PVP, the Thresher is the way to go. If plan on skilling up for destroyer that is. Never used one of my Catalysts in PvP.
12.In PVP, if a Interceptor( He had friends.) is chasing you up a pipe, then create a safe spot, and keep a eye out for combat probes. Lost my first Thrasher mainly because I did not safe up, and wait for the probes. Make them work for it.
13.Mining, never solo mine in low-sec. Lost a mining cruiser that way.
14.If you are into mining, then just focus on training into a T2 Hulk fit.
15.Did I tell you mining is boring?
16.When it coming to alt characters, train for a trade alt before a hauler alt. I should have created a trade alt before a hauler alt,.... and the other alts. Trading has been a good way for me to make isk.
17.If your trading, then read up on the latest trading scams. I got burned. Once.
18.Being in fleet(PvP, PvE, Mining,...etc.) with other players is more fun then being a solo ship.
19.Finally, once your green(newness.) fades, give back to the Eve Online community.
"CCP employees should never proclaim a feature to be awesome. Only subscribers should." |

Zinobi Alduin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.09.17 22:36:00 -
[87] - Quote
While I find many of these advice to be very helpfull i must ask:
- Just how do i find a good corp anyway? (I have been in quite a few meh-ones. Wish I staid in 'school', then I would at least not have to worry about wars)
- What is a care bear? From the adverts I vaguely remember from my adolescence they where brightly coloured and used some kind of chest mounted beam weapon. Avoid lasers? (or why are you using in-game jargon in a thread aimed at noobs)
And of cause, how DO I find a good corp? |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
72
|
Posted - 2011.09.17 22:53:00 -
[88] - Quote
I was reading the forums extensively before I started playing the game. At the time there was extensive discussion about using Merlins to run missions. Some people stated that they could use X fitting to run L3 missions.
So when I started playing, I trained to fly X fitting and fly L3 missions.
After a few weeks of what felt like beating my head against the table, I upgraded to a Caracal. Suddenly L3 missions were a lot easier. Then after almost a year of flying that, one of my friends suggested I upgrade to a Drake. What do you know? L3 missions became easier still!
These days, I talk to people on the forums about running L4 missions in assault ships. I lose sleep sometimes, wondering how many poor souls I have convinced into running L4 missions in assault ships when they're doing it for income/standings but I'm only running L4s in assault ships for giggles?
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Keno Skir
Vectis Systems
1
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Posted - 2011.09.17 23:03:00 -
[89] - Quote
1) - Finding a good corp isn't easy but at least there are a few good ways to do research. Hang out in the recruitment channel and try to sift through the copy paste drivel that crowds the channel for somebody who talks like a real person, talk with them. If that goes well and you think they might have something good going for them, go hang out in their recruitment channel if they have one. Hopefully there will be a few members on hand to give you some idea of what to expect. Some small corps dont have the manpower to keep a constant recruitment channel, and it's worth noting that you often get a more personal family like environment from smaller corps as opposed to larger ones (at the cost of lesser protection). If you happen to make any friends before the corp stage try investigating their corp or asking if they know of any with a good rep :)
You could also try the corporation recruitment ad system but it's crowded with spam, and corps who only do one small act of mining at 6pm every second wednesday of the month will tick every box anyway in the hope it will net them more members.
All this is dependant however on what you would like to get from said corporation, once you have given the WHY some thought, the HOW should become much clearer.
2) - "Care-Bear" is a slang name given in EvE to the people who prefer the non-combatant side of the game, highsec miners and indy pilots and the like.
Ks |

Croniac
Thunder Chickens
0
|
Posted - 2011.09.17 23:12:00 -
[90] - Quote
Don't rush through your training/tutorial missions, they teach you fundamentals, and they even give you some nice items. Take your time and understand what you are being shown.
Get into a good player corp that does everything, don't get suckered into some 'we only do this' corp, they always fail.
Don't be afraid to die, and remember to fly ships you can afford to replace.
And if what you're doing is making you bored, or making you hate the game STOP DOING THAT. Eve is a vast bottomless pool. Nobody knows everything about it. Nobody has done everything in it.
If you're bored in Eve, its because you are boring. Come up with a dream, and then make it happen. It is all right there in front of you. But if you just bang the rocks, or run the mission treadmill, you will never break out of the routine.
Everything is free. Even the most expensive ships are just made from rocks. And the right corporations can get you going down that path.
Most of all, have fun. |
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Si'Andregal Grungolash
0riental Creeds
0
|
Posted - 2011.09.18 01:20:00 -
[91] - Quote
Patience, Patience is key.
If you're a bloodthirsty new pvper, always take your time to analyze the situation you find yourself in. Sometimes the lack of targets gets the better of you, and when you do find someone you tend to get excited and panic.
Too many times have I, in a fit of adrenaline, activated my guns and attacked an obvious bait, engaged outnumbered on a stargate, or even shot a hulk that I thought was mining in lowsec when really I had roamed into a highsec system.
Good times. |

Eojek
The-Resistance
0
|
Posted - 2011.09.18 01:55:00 -
[92] - Quote
StonerPhReaK wrote:I trained Citadel Torpedoes to put on my shiney new megathron.  Took forever! Then realized (after torp 5 was complete ofc) that a citadel launcher used way more cpu than could ever be dreamed of on a mega.  My advise :Right Click and Show Info on EVERYTHING!  Oh And : Read and re-read everything thrice.
Lesee, if you DO fit T2 power diagnostics on all the lowslots on a Navy Apoc, and one power rig, you can. DPS is crap, though. Seriously, 45 dps? :P |

tsukubasteve
The Park Bench
1
|
Posted - 2011.09.18 02:36:00 -
[93] - Quote
If you start your own corp, never give roles to anyone you can't physically punch in the face.
Sources: me. |

Vedista Attor
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2011.09.18 05:54:00 -
[94] - Quote
Being a total noob, I am in a position to offer my "light of ignorance".
For the trial users : 1. It took me 3 attempts in 3 different email accounts at different time periods. All three times i quit after 1 hours of playing because i was fool enough not to take tutorial seriously. FOLLOW THE TUTORIAL AS IF IT WAS YOUR BIBLE.
2. Before buying ANYTHING right click on at show info and check the prerequisites. Chances are that you will be missing one more skill and you will end up with some "nice" gear that you wont be able to use before a long time.
3. Check the awkward mission system. READ CAREFULLY what the agent says. Be prepared and armed for surprises.
4. Give the game some time!!! Don't expect to conquer the solar system in just 14 days of trial.
5. READ blogs, forums etc and get trained!!! This looks to be a long journey thank God :-)
6. Dont get disappointed by the older payers trying to show off their experinece. One step at a time. Its a game where older players have a clear advantage. But then again is there a game that this is not happening?
Thats it! (What did you expect. i am a noob just like you). I am still learning and will be learning for a long time.... Fly safe !!!
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HardTrue
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
2
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Posted - 2011.09.18 07:21:00 -
[95] - Quote
Maybe it's obvious, but install EVEMon or similar - it helps you a lot in planning skills. |

Asana Keikira
New Dawn Initiative
3
|
Posted - 2011.09.18 08:57:00 -
[96] - Quote
Croniac wrote:
Everything is free. Even the most expensive ships are just made from rocks. And the right corporations can get you going down that path.
Most people will dispute the free part. :D However, yes, finding a good corp can get you into ships, as long as you're willing to put forth a bit of effort. I got my first cruiser through my corp, and mined and missioned my way to paying it off. That's the key to a good corporation to me - They support you commensurate with your support for them.
Rixx Javix wrote: > Turn off Auto-Lock
This relates to a newbie mistake that I was the victim of myself. It's very important to be very familiar with this statement if you're flying a logistic ship. I took a brand new logi Osprey into a level 4 with a couple corpmates and about 30 seconds into the fight, I was forcibly ejected from a smoking hull when a team mate gave me 2-3 Scourge missiles to the face. I had locked him up to keep track of his shield status and in doing so, he locked me back automatically and didn't realize it. Took me about an hour to replace the ship, with most of the time spent laughing incessantly. |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
4
|
Posted - 2011.09.18 09:29:00 -
[97] - Quote
One that hasn-¦t been mentioned so far:
x) Avoid going AFK x) Avoid flying on Autopilot.
Certainly not in Low-Sec and best not in High-Sec either.
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dalto bane
Space Morons Something Posing As Meat
0
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Posted - 2011.09.18 11:05:00 -
[98] - Quote
Where to start with silly mistakes...
1) Always read the mission very carefully, and what it will take to complete missions
2) Always check your cargo bay before warping and undocking to ensure you have ammo or the item it will take to complete the mission.
3) Return drones to the drone bay before warping.
4) Lastly, trust no one right away. This includes but is not limited to collateral payment, hauling rocks you mine etc.
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Pervonius
HispaDutch inc. Sons of Sylph
0
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Posted - 2011.09.18 16:39:00 -
[99] - Quote
First time i played eve i sore a megathron and i asked the guy flying it "wow you fly a titan" lol  |

Lojak 2501
Ignus Astrum The Veyr Collective
0
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Posted - 2011.09.18 16:41:00 -
[100] - Quote
back when i started running missions i fit 1 (yes only 1) repper and hardener of both damage types. doubling up on them didn't even cross my mind.
morale of the story? learn from my loss of more ships that i care to count  |
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gargars
Cohesion Inc Beyond-Repair
8
|
Posted - 2011.09.18 17:01:00 -
[101] - Quote
I learned early on when in a fleet ships on the overview can be 'tagged' with numbers/letters so people in the fleet know what to concentrate on and in what order (or not).
Well after three years it dawned on me even if alone, you can invite yourself to fleet and basically create a one-man fleet, then - yup - you can use tags just for yourself! Great for marking spawn trigger ships when running missions or marking containers in radar sites etc without losing track. |

Delta Jax
NixCraft
4
|
Posted - 2011.09.18 17:20:00 -
[102] - Quote
Auto Pilot is not the only way to get to a destination, it should only be used when afk'n and only when you not carrying valuable stuff. Manually warping to a stargate and jumping is about 100x faster then auto pilot.
Never turn on autopilot if route goes through low/null sec. you will die, and most likely be podded.
If a mission is in lowsec, just understand that being in a mission area does not equal safety, people there are usually far better equipped, more skilled, and can probe you out faster than you think. But if you insist, keep directional scanner open and learn to hit the scan button every other second to watch for probes, if you see those it's time to GTFO
Also, I've seen this a few times, if you go into lowsec and there are people at the gate and they don't attack you, this does not mean they are friendly and you can go ratting.
When roaming, superior numbers does not always = WIN, a small gang of people who know what they are doing or have an ace up their sleeve can usually push a 30 man fleet off the field or draw 1/2 away from the main group and kill them one at a time. If you get into corps that all they do is blob, you'll never learn how to actually PvP, get 3-4 people and learn to work together.. pvp is a lot more enjoyable. |

DarkAssasain
Origin. Black Legion.
0
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Posted - 2011.09.18 19:08:00 -
[103] - Quote
If you want to learn how to PVP no better way then baptism under fire! I was in a pvp corp and null sec with a week and was a great experience. If you want to try pvp, but arent willing or not ready to go to null sec first there is the faction warfare for starters. The biggest thing ive seen new players do is once they see another player whether in there corp or in the space lanes in a shiny new ship like a Battleship they immediately skill for it and then loose it. My best advice for this work on your core skills first and save you the drama of DIAF. That is all!  |

DrDan21
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
73
|
Posted - 2011.09.18 19:37:00 -
[104] - Quote
Get out of your comfort zone and try something with some more in-game risk.
Back when I started playing I was scooped up by a mining alliance as I undocked from the noobie station. They taught me how to mine and such but it wasn't until I met a pilot (who unfortunately no longer player :'( ) Who taught me the basics of PvP
Basically he taught me this 1. Sometimes you are going to die, get over it. 2. You need to stay calm, every second counts and if you freeze up you lose 3. Never do an arranged 1v1 with someone you don't know 4. There is no such thing as E-Honor don't fall for it 5. Know you ship, know you fitting 6. You see that drake on the gate? The one that's moving? Not even 0.0m/s but a blank velocity field? IT'S BAIT DON'T SHOOT IT!
Most important of all: Never become 'E-leet PeeVeePee scum' |

annoing
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2011.09.18 22:07:00 -
[105] - Quote
Nakedandfearless wrote:Taking sooo long to join a great alliance. I ran missions forever just to pay the deposit to join Goonswarm Federation.
For the new guys you want to run missions or mine as quick as you can save that isk and contact a recruiter and pay the minimal deposit to join the best alliance in the game.
See you in Dek.
This makes me remember all the great scams, rip-offs and general fraudulant behaviour from Goonswarm that has kept me amused for years. Pro-tip = nothing Goonswarm tells you is true especially concerning them, friendship and the isk you have to pay them...
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Keno Skir
1
|
Posted - 2011.09.18 23:39:00 -
[106] - Quote
gargars wrote:I learned early on when in a fleet ships on the overview can be 'tagged' with numbers/letters so people in the fleet know what to concentrate on and in what order (or not).
Well after three years it dawned on me even if alone, you can invite yourself to fleet and basically create a one-man fleet, then - yup - you can use tags just for yourself! Great for marking spawn trigger ships when running missions or marking containers in radar sites etc without losing track.
Wow
Thanks honestly for saving me three years :D |

Sean Digsel
Blunt Brothers Trading
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 00:13:00 -
[107] - Quote
do the tutorials, do the sisters of eve arc. Once completed, you should be able to mission without losing ships (unless you get really careless). Check triggers here: http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=missionreports and take out spawns one at a time. Spend some money on your pve ship, and don't rush to get into the next level ship (stick with that frigate til you're crushing level 1's, once you're comfortably running level 2's in a cruiser, you can probably feel free to upgrade to a battlecruiser and take on level 3s, just be careful!)
You should have some decent isk rolling in after the first week. Start buying a ton of rifters(merlins, punishers, whatever) and go out and pvp. Fit these ships cheaply, until you know what you're doing. You're going to die alot. You'll also learn a lot.
Find a training corp, or just a corp with likeminded members. Make friends. Even if the corporation doesn't turn out to be something you want to stick around in, hopefully you'll find some people to fly with (whether you're into pvp, running missions, mining or exploration you'll have more fun in a group) |

Travis117
Coldon Enterprises IMPERIAL LEGI0N
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 02:23:00 -
[108] - Quote
ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS watch local if you are in a corporation under a war dec.. i spent 5m good isk at the time for when i started on an osprey for mining and got cloaked jumped in a belt from a pilgrim.... lost all my stuff corp member saved me and got me the isk back.
Play it smart think before you act you are not invincible! |

Shinzann
Dead poets society The Laughing Men
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 05:12:00 -
[109] - Quote
In no particular order, bits of wisdom I've learned over the years...
1. Only fly what you can afford to lose (I'm probably the tenth person to say that in this thread alone, btw) 1.1: Assume your ship won't be making it back and insure properly. 2. Always keep your clone up to date. 3. Always have something training. 4. Ctrl+r reloads your mods that uses charges and ammo. Ctrl+left click locks target in overview. Holding down Ctrl locks your overview so you don't "accidentally" target the wrong thing. 5. PvP in EVE is completely consensual. You gave your consent when you clicked the Connect button after typing in your password. 6. Avoid Rancer and Amamake if you don't like getting podded. 7. SP != skill |

xp3ll3d
ANZAC ACADEMY
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 05:58:00 -
[110] - Quote
Travel tips: Using autopilot will make you land 15km off the gate, meaning you need to burn towards the gate wasting time.
Set your final destination, then in your overview the gate for the next system you need to travel to will be yellow. Click it and warp to 0 (or hold down 'D' and click the gate in the overview for a hotkey warp). Once you land on gate, keep clicking the "jump" button to jump as soon as the servers recognise you are on grid.
Took me a year before I realised that the yellow gate in overview was the next destination. Another tactic I use. I warp to the gate at 0 and then turn on autopilot. Then I alt-tab to read a webpage. When the ship lands it will automatically jump through for you. You'll hear "jumping" and know to alt-tab back, turn off auto-pilot, warp to 0 to the next gate, turn autopilot back on, and go back to reading your web page. Saves a lot of time |
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Yan Skshetuski
Tri-Spectrum Ops Fade 2 Black
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 06:12:00 -
[111] - Quote
Always Bookmark the entrance and exit to a wormhole as you go through!!! Enter at your own risk as you would 0.0. |

Sil le
Chemikals ORPHANS OF EVE
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 08:06:00 -
[112] - Quote
If you come home drunk from a good night out.........
DO NOT
1) Start Eve 2) Get in your expensive freighter located at your POS in low sec 3) Warp to the gate at 0 forgetting to set the autopilot 4) Fall asleep at the keyboard whilst in warp
.... (some time passes)
5) Wake up to find yourself in a pod with local laughing their arses off  |

Mason Onyx
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 09:06:00 -
[113] - Quote
Not setting bookmarks in a belt and continously coming to a belt wondering why the hell I'm so far away from the rocks. Set bookmarks. |

Ishina Fel
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 09:53:00 -
[114] - Quote
It's been said already but bears repeating:
http://www.isktheguide.com/ - You can buy the hardcopy, but you can download the PDF for free.
Together with The Evelopedia, that guide is a great source of information.
Okay, it won't warn you about the Goons, and it won't tell you how to win the annual Alliance Tournament... those things you must figure out yourself. But if you ever wondered what the heck Reverse Engineering is, how you make money with planetary colonies, or how to operate and fuel a jump bridge POS - no matter how obscure the game mechanic, that thing has it covered. |

Zey Nadar
Unknown Soldiers Test Friends Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2011.09.19 10:17:00 -
[115] - Quote
My advice to new players?
- Don't plan on being a miner (I was in the beginning) - Aim at joining a player corp from the start, eve is not a solo player game - Don't be disheartened too easily if you cant find that right corp straight away. - Do not fear low or nullsec, just pay attention to what ship you go in there with. - do not use autopilot. - Take time to set your overview correctly with multiple tabs for whatever you need. - Don't accept contracts without doublechecking it carefully first |

Kim Telkin
Love for You
3
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Posted - 2011.09.19 11:04:00 -
[116] - Quote
Talk to strangers and make friends, from day one!
My biggest mistake was to be so afraid of being scammed that I trusted and talked to no one in game for a month or more. It was a lonely month full of trial and error.
Talk to people in local. Tell them you are a new player. Meet friends. And yes *dont' be afraid of the scams*.
At worst you can loose everything you have. This amounts to a few days worth of playing. At best you can make friends for life.
Reward > Risk !!!
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Raneru
Combat and Recon The Last Chancers.
3
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Posted - 2011.09.19 12:18:00 -
[117] - Quote
The biggest ship isn't always the most fun to fly.
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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
4
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Posted - 2011.09.19 15:00:00 -
[118] - Quote
Sil le wrote:If you come home drunk from a good night out.........
DO NOT
1) Start Eve 2) Decide to use your yearly remap to make your Charakter "more charismatic".
There, that-¦s better.
General rule: Don-¦t drink and Eve.
Actually, it might be wise to stop drinking althogether while having an active Eve account......
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IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 16:23:00 -
[119] - Quote
Grimpak wrote:2 things never change in EVE:
n-¦1 - there is nothing that can substitute a good corp. n-¦2 - Murphy's law.
I would add Karma is a ***** and she brings the demon murphy along whenever she travels in EVE. i remember once bragging about how I hadn't lost a boat in the C1 we hang out in a month or so even after half a dozen PVP attempts on my life. Bam, lost two in as many hours on a Friday night.
Which brings me to my lesson learned, don't run sleepers on Friday and Saturday nights in the WH. The Pirates are out in force with their HACs and T3s on these nights. Run the Sleepers Mon-Thur.
That and you cannot kill what you cannot hit but it *can* and will kill you.
PVP HAC vs PVE Geddon = Dead Battleship. |

Cerulean Errant
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:36:00 -
[120] - Quote
A few things I wish I'd known when I started playing, running missions and other things a long time ago:
- Train your core skills to level 5. I used the certification planner/system as a guide for myself, but just training certain skills to 5 is critical if you're going to get the most out of your ship. Most importantly, maxing out skills such as Energy Management or Shield Management apply across the board to any ship, so there is no reason NOT to train these to level 5.
- Learn how to make your own ammunition. Saves you a lot of money, and gets you into another aspect of the game that is equally interesting (at least for me) as the entire PvE and PvP area of it is.
- Learn how to survive on your own. While joining a corp is good for a number of things, it also helps to learn how to live on your own and survive by your own wits.
- Losing your ship sucks. But it's not the end of the world. I think it's fair to say that a lot of people remember the bad taste in their mouth after they lost their first ship, or lost a ship for a stupid reason. I once lost a ship and I didn't come back for more than a few months. But eventually I came back, because I didn't want such a minor thing to stop me from having fun. |
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4themoney
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 18:11:00 -
[121] - Quote
Each thing I list is a mistake I've made mostly in the beginning: 1. If you plan on doing pvp which most people do eventually then don't start your character's name with a number or a letter at the beginning of the alphabet. They should tell you this in the tutorial in my opinion. After you make your name it is yours forever. CCP won't let you change it unless it is offensive. If you made the same mistake as I did I'd suggest starting a new character and erasing the old one or make it a cyno alt or something. The reason is that NPC's target alphabetically so every time you attack a pos even if there are 100's of people the first people to die are the ones alphabetically first. With lag most of the time I didn't even have the chance to warp out before dieing usually within seconds. As far as PVP goes its basically the same idea. In fleet combat facing 100's of ships of basically the same type and same distances you are usually told to target and kill the first 4 people then rinse and repeat. The targeting window is usually sorted by alphabet so people at the beginning of the list die first and people at the end GREATLY increase their chances of living. Sometimes they change it up and kill in reverse order so I made my new character with a name in the middle of the alphabet. I noticed a HUGE difference in how long I lived in fact most of the time I lived. I went from "man you die too much why do you suck so much?" to people saying "wow you are excellent at pvp here are free ships and isk do it some more.
2. Most corps are gonna want you to have fully T2 trained for battlecruiser (home defense), battleship close and long range T2 fully trained for fleet combat, and ultimately fully trained for capital combat. You may want to train for a blackbird to start with since it only takes 2 weeks to train so you can have a nice role to fill but even a frigate can tackle and are cheap to loose. In my opinion I'd first train for a battlecruiser fully t2 trained so you can help out for home defense and go out on roams them train for a fully T2 fit battleship for fleet combat. Most big crops will want you to be capital trained since most territory control combat is in capitals.
3. The next big mistake I made was trying to mine in 0.0. It takes a long time to train for a properly fit hulk so in the meantime you will need to just wait or try to use a battleship. If your corp does big gangs then you could get by with the first mining barge though if the tank disconnects then it will only take seconds for you to die. In my opinion I'd just wait till you can take a hulk in. You will need a standard setup with an expensive shield booster use eft to make sure you are cap stable and can tank the rats. If you can't tank rats then you will be reliant on others and that means long wait times. You will also need a ship to scan for the grav sites that are the best places to mine. It is much easier to have an alt who can fit a full can in his cargo to transport the ore to a station otherwise if you try to do it yourself you will have to figure out how to pick up the ore without instantly dieing from the rats which is a hassle. Not all stations can process ore so it may be a big issue trying to figure out how to transport all the ore you have mined to a station that can process it. Using a freighter in 0.0 is very dangerous. The next problem is now its processed how do you use it to make a profit? You can make it into stuff but for me that took too long to make a profit. It took around 3 weeks to make a ship that sold for 200m. In that same time I could have mined ABCM's for around a billion isk. A lot of corps/alliances will promise that they will buy your ore for a good price but for me this always fell through. I never found a group that would pay you well for the time you spent mining. The market is always bad for minerals also meaning you will take a huge loss if you try to sell it in 0.0. My next solution was to try to bring it to jita in a cloaked transport. This can cause you much grief and cause your hair to grey prematurely. I made huge profits this way but also found there are many ways for a cloaked transport to die even though it can travel cloaked. The best way to get minerals to jita is to use a capital to jump it to lowsec. A rorq is useful to a miner but can only transport mining ships and industrials while carriers can transport anything smaller then itself. This becomes useful in that it can transport pvp ships. You may wander why you need pvp ships as a miner? The idea is that you are taking precious minerals from your corps space what do you offer in return? They may offer that you mine for countless hours to donate ore to them to make ships. They may offer that you get free ships but in the end you should NEVER die in a mining ship. If you are setup properly to tank rats and watch local and be ready to warp to a safe pos when needed. Don't ever warp to a station because it is going to be bubbled and you will die before your ship comes to a complete stop from your warp in. My point is that being able to do pvp will make you look more useful to a corp. Participating in pvp and mining in your down time between pvp battles can offer you a lot of fun and still make a huge profit.
4. This brings me to my last point and one of my biggest mistakes and headaches. You can make it in 0.0 without a capital to transport ships and supplies but it can be a huge headache. If I could go back in time and start over I'd just train for a carrier first right from the start then when I was ready to go to 0.0 I'd have a way to bring stuff in and out. This would be a bit boring in the meantime waiting to train but in my opinion riding myself of so much grief trying to get stuff in and out of 0.0. You also will want a second account that has cyno alts. If you don't then you will be reliant on others to cyno you in and out. |

Seductive Reasoning
The Soul Forge Sefric Legation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 19:35:00 -
[122] - Quote
One thing that took me several ship losses to learn is that it is cheaper to lose drones than it is to wait for them to return to your ship and lose your ship in the process.
Another thing I've learned is that just because there is a buy order up for an item does not mean that you will be able to sell to that order. Bought a tag for 250mil that had buy orders for 300mil. Ended up with 2 tags that would not sell. I got lucky and sold them on the market for only a 50mil loss total. I consider it a cheap lesson learned considering what I could have lost. Basically it comes down to this: if it looks too good to be true, then it probably is a trap.
Lastly, never underestimate the power of drones. They have saved me time and time again from certain annihilation. Take the small ammount of time it takes to get t2 ones while you are at it. They are worth every bit of time it takes to learn them. |

Markarian Aurelius
Bureau of Interstellar Exploration
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 23:24:00 -
[123] - Quote
Here are some other things I've learned that every new player should consider:
- Use a 3rd party app like EveHQ (best IMHO) or EFT (Google them) to test out fits for your ships before running out and buying modules for it. Doing the calculations before buying the stuff using the info screens takes way too long and you're gonna screw up somewhere.
- Training for Hybrid Rails and thinking they'd be great for PVP. They aren't. IMHO the best in order are Projectiles, Missiles, and Blasters. Projectiles and missiles don't use capacitor, unlike Hybrid turrets. When you get your cap neuted dry by multiple pvp'ers (which you will) and have no cap boosters, you simply can't fight back with anything other than drones.
- Not doing enough research before hiring someone to do a job for you. If you don't, you will get scammed. Even if you do the research, you're likely still going to get scammed. Trust nobody completely, especially without collateral assurances of equal or higher value given to you before sending them the ISK. Problem is most nobody will trust you enough to give collateral.
- Learn the game mechanics inside and out. Be especially sure to know what tricks players use to get you to aggro them, thus giving them permission to blow up your ship.
- If you just joined a corp, do not put any of your assets in the corp hangar unless absolutely necessary, even if the CEO demands it. Chances are is if it's mandatory, you're going to get your stuff stolen, or someone will infiltrate your corp eventually and find a way to steal the stuff that was in there.
- Do not fall for Goonswarm recruitment scams. The only way to get into the Goons is to be a member of the SomethingAwful forums and get invited. Always do a huge amount of research on any corp you join before hitting that "Apply" button. Corp members can shoot you with impunity and Condord will not protect you against them.
- When going into lowsec, ALWAYS use a forward scout that jumps through first, alone. Make sure it's a very fast and cheap ship. Shuttles or most frigates work well. Use an alt with no implants (in case of smartbombs).
- If you are in a PvP battle in lowsec or nullsec and you know you're going to die, preselect a celestial object or station in your overview and spam the crap out of the warp button until you see your pod go into warp after your ship blows up. Your pod will be in warp before it can be targeted 99% of the time unless you are inside of a warp disruption bubble. If you stick around in your pod for even a second or hesitate, you can kiss your pod and your implants goodbye.
- Buy implants as soon as you can afford them. They will dramatically speed up your training, even if they are just +2's. Get Cybernetics up to @ least lvl 4 quickly so you can use the +4 implants or the named ones (Slaves, Crystals, Snake, etc) that'll give you a bonus to a specific ship attribute (armor, shield, speed, etc). Powergrid hardwiring implants are very useful for making very tight fits before you have the Advanced Weapon Upgrades skill.
- Get jump clones as soon as you can. They require 8.0 standings with the faction that owns the station you want to install the jump clone into. Jump clones make things so much easier, especially if you travel between nullsec and highsec.
- Don't go into wormholes as a noob until you know exactly what you're doing. Getting stranded only requires a single mistake, and the inhabitants of "Unknown wormhole space" are almost always very hostile to uninvited guests. The laws of wormholes is that there are no laws. Concord will not be there to help you.
- Learn to use scan probes early. You can make tons of money scanning down complexes to run. You never know when you might find that 1 Billion ISK Pith shield booster at a hidden complex. You will most certainly be doing a very energetic happy dance when you do.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
89
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Posted - 2011.09.19 23:34:00 -
[124] - Quote
THE ONE THING THAT PEOPLE ALWAYS FORGET
with every fix and every patch somethings also break.
Even the auto pilot breaks.
So when undocking and flying afk to jita, make sure that the most recent patch didn't break the autopilot making all settings to the shortest distance which almost always lands you in Decon.
That was a great day of lulz. |

Greygal
Sephray Industries Serenitas Solutus
17
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Posted - 2011.09.20 00:22:00 -
[125] - Quote
1. Repeat after me: It's not a mistake, it's a learning experience. Or a Really Good TimeGäó 
2. Search is your Friend: In the upper right corner of all windows that contain some sort of inventory, such as the Items in stations, corporate hangar arrays, ship maintenance arrays, etc., there is a blank box. Turns out it is a SEARCH box.... wow makes it so much easier to find stuff! Seriously didn't realize that was a search box for well over a year... I probably lost 3 months of game time just scrolling through my items trying to find that one thing I was looking for.
3. "Fly before you buy." Take some time to get to know the people in a corporation a bit before you join. Ask to fly with them on missions/mining/pvp/other ops for a few days before you send in your application.
4. Real Capsuleers Don't Cry... at least not in public. Sure it sucks when you get ganked, scammed, whatever... avoid crying about it in public (local) chat... avoid crying about it at all. Those tears just feed the punks.
5. Set your drones to "passive" in high sec. Aggressive drones love to target trigger ships in mission spaces... and can cause all kinds of unfun things if you are silly enough to afk jet-can mine near pirate bases...
6. PVP is essential to a well-functioning market. Contribute to the economic health of Eve by blowing stuff up - and getting blown up. Fit out a dozen cheap frigates and head into lowsec and go crazy fighting whatever you can find. You will lose every one of those ships remarkably fast, but omg the rush and hands-on pvp will teach you more than all the blogs, videos, advice, and research in the universe.
7. Killboard stats are meaningless. They can be fudged, faked, padded and ultimately do not mean a damn thing. You are not a fail player for losing ships - you are doing your bit for the economy while getting better all the time. A player with 5,000 kills and 25 losses is probably a mission ninja/gate camper/ganker and completely worthless in a "real" fight where another player with 50 kills and 75 losses may actually be a cunning killer who you have no chance at all against.
8. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do something. For example, I should never have jumped into a wormhole when I was only 11 days old (see my very funny fail :) ). I also shouldn't have flown a battleship when I still couldn't fit medium guns - much less large! I won't mention that ill-fated ransom I once paid either...
9. Before every patch, export your fittings and overview settings. Sometimes patches break those things... 
10. NEVER put all your eggs in one basket. Always have spare ships safely tucked away in high sec somewhere.
11. Avoid flying with real-life family members... try as you might, eventually that line between real life and Eve life is going to get crossed in embarrassing, ugly, dramatic ways that lead to Things We RegretGäó Suffice to say... it turns out my never-met-in-real-life corp members are far more trustworthy than my own real life brother...
And of course, as already advised... don't fly what you can't afford to lose  What you do for yourself dies with you, what you do for others is immortal. |

Menenda Tararena
Project XIII
2
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Posted - 2011.09.20 12:56:00 -
[126] - Quote
You can trade with another person in the same station as you are in by rightclicking his/her name in the guest list and choose trade 
Read the trade window carefully before you click accept 
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Traffic Warden
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
6
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Posted - 2011.09.20 13:00:00 -
[127] - Quote
1. If you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong.
2. You'll meet lots of people who think internet spaceships are serious business. Don't listen to them, it's a sure fire way to fail at 1.
3. Don't start to specialise until you've tried a bit of everything. What you think may look like fun before you start, may actually turn out not being so great (this was my personal big mistake, 2 months wasted shooting at rocks).
4. Play however you want to play, and find a corp that shares your playstyle. Ignore people who think your way is somehow inferior, they're just jealous of all the fun you're having.
5. If you choose to pursue a career shooting at people, killmails are nothing but a good way of seeing what you just blew up. No-one that matters cares about your ratios. Just chuck yourself in and see what happens. |

Stofolis
The Real OC Cascade Imminent
0
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Posted - 2011.09.20 16:59:00 -
[128] - Quote
Join a corp.
Don't be afraid to leave a corp.
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hectiQ
Square Dimensions Quantum Cookies
1
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Posted - 2011.09.20 17:13:00 -
[129] - Quote
A mistake that I've made was skilling up to be able to use battleships and thinking you'd be all powerful and could complete every mission with ease.
I went from a Thorax to my first Megathron and lost it the same day in a level 3 mission due to lack of skills and bad equipment.
Note to new players: Every ship receives a bonus for certain weapons, increase your ship skill level to benefit from it. Don't use weapons or equipment that aren't meant for the ship you're flying. |

David inawarho
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.20 17:20:00 -
[130] - Quote
capacitor is life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! always fit a cap booster especially if you fly gallente or amarr. Lost 3 vexors before I learned about them. After fitting one only crass stupidity will cost you a ship in pve. |
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MissyFire
Texas Deep Space
0
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Posted - 2011.09.20 19:24:00 -
[131] - Quote
Silly Things!
1 - Trusting a Goon 2 - Getting Scammed and then trying to unload the scam on someone else. 3 - Flying a Carrier in low sec without a support fleet.
Make friends, my best advised.
As a noob I recruited more noobs. We formed a friendship and a kinship as we all learned the aspects of EVE together.
All of my former noob friends are still my friends in the EVE universe today.
Make sure you don't fear what is around the next corner of the universe. Try it all, but don't get in a hurry.
I have run missions, I have listened carefully to a large fleet FC in hopes he would keep me alive. I have followed FC's into situations where I knew there was nothing but death and I went anyway. It was all fun.
Despite what others are saying. LEARN TO MINE.
Miners in 0.0 have real courage. Taking a ship made of glass into a belt with rat battleships takes skill and courage. Not to mention... When you are fried from combat and just want to relax and be social. Mining is far better than spinning in station or sitting in front of the mirror to admire the breast you gave your female avatar.
And last but not least. Don't think making a female character is going to get you an ounce of sympathy as you make that jump into low sec. By the time I figured that one out. I was well invested in this toon to start over.
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Maidas Mulligan
Theoretical Heresy
0
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Posted - 2011.09.21 00:04:00 -
[132] - Quote
Hahahahahaha... Where to start? Lots of things have already been said that apply to me, but its my list, so suffer through them one more time... :)
1) Being able to sit in a ship is in no way the same as being able to fly it.
2) When pulling up roots and resettling, dont be afraid to use courier contracts. I've lost all I held dear in a high-sec Itty 5. TWICE! :p
3) Use the resources available to you: Evemon, EFT, etc.
4) When going into wormholes, excessively BOOKMARK!!!!
5) Double check your autopilot route.
5a) Just in general, learn to use the map info. Its really REALLY handy when plotting a run. Pilots in space, jumps, pilots docked, etc. the info is old, but better than nothing.
6) Patience and a cloak can get you almost anywhere. |

Soldarius
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
4
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Posted - 2011.09.21 03:31:00 -
[133] - Quote
Nakedandfearless wrote:Taking sooo long to join a great alliance. I ran missions forever just to pay the deposit to join Goonswarm Federation.
For the new guys you want to run missions or mine as quick as you can save that isk and contact a recruiter and pay the minimal deposit to join the best alliance in the game.
See you in Dek.
lol, and don't forget to read this post before applying to goons.
For me, was learning to focus my tank. No armor and shield mods on same ship. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |

Corelous Alterrian
High Flyers RED.OverLord
0
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Posted - 2011.09.21 04:21:00 -
[134] - Quote
Nakedandfearless wrote:Taking sooo long to join a great alliance. I ran missions forever just to pay the deposit to join Goonswarm Federation.
For the new guys you want to run missions or mine as quick as you can save that isk and contact a recruiter and pay the minimal deposit to join the best alliance in the game.
See you in Dek.
For you new Players this is crap, Goons will take your isk and your stuff and laugh at you, Read the forums there are tons of stories. My advise to new players is to not believe a word you here in game, Remember there all out to get your stuff.
On that note Can I have it before you give it to some 14 year old goobers? |

Alek Spline
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.21 08:25:00 -
[135] - Quote
One of the things that took me a long time to realise:
Eve is more than the game client.
Whatever you are into, use the internet. Off the top of my head:
- Missioning? Google "eve damage types". Consult eve-survival.org
- Wondering what to train next? Use an out-of-game application like EveMon or EveHQ
- Mining? look things up. (Or, better yet, don't mine)
- Looking into exploration? Google the name of the site you just found.
Whatever you want to do, look it up on the internets. Someone will have written about it - learn from their failures. |

Kasperow
Avitus Lugus
0
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Posted - 2011.09.21 12:25:00 -
[136] - Quote
Don't learn from the successes of others. Your own failures are easier to learn from. |

Ptraci
3 R Corporation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.21 17:19:00 -
[137] - Quote
When hauling cargo always check the quantities of the buy order, as well as the price.
Always make sure you have skills to use that new module/ship you are excited about. Nowadays there is no excuse - right click->show info->Prerequisites.
Everybody and I mean everybody has rage-quit at one point or another. That's just a part of EVE. Fights are not meant to be fair, and you are supposed to die like a good boy. It's not a choice. Of course eventually you will find out how to be the one doing the killing and then it gets better.
PvP will find you, no matter where you are.
All players are lazy. This means opportunity if you are just a little less lazy.
The first billion isk is the hardest one to make. |

Tyr Aeron
L0pht Systems
0
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Posted - 2011.09.22 06:58:00 -
[138] - Quote
JOIN A CORP!!!
Your corp mates will be your single greatest resource of information, but on that note, don't join a corp that only has other new players. Find a corp that has some bitter, crusty, old vets at the helm and pay VERY close attention to everything they tell you.
There's a million web sites out there with every bit of information that's ever existed on EVE. Get familiar with them. While your corp mates may be willing to help you out, answering a continuous barrage of questions for hours will drive even the most patient player insane.
Get familiar with the 3rd party programs out there like EVEHQ, EVEmon & the like. Those will save you time, ISK, and probably a ship or ten. |

Cellyss
Sparta Elite Black Star Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.09.22 13:59:00 -
[139] - Quote
Some mistakes that I have made:
1. I skilled up to fly a Purifier without even considering my core skills.
2. Setting up a POS in null sec with a friend with only 4 million skill points. ( do that and you will not want to see another bubble for a long long time because that is where you will be spending most of your time )
3. Going on a roaming op in a Purifier without bothering to fit a cloak.
4. Like item number 1 not starting my core skills. |

Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
0
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Posted - 2011.09.23 09:02:00 -
[140] - Quote
I remember making hundreds of mistakes when I was a rookie. In fact, I failed more frequently than I succeeded. Now, it's the other way around.
1: Don't buy ships in trade-hubs. Just don't do it. They are often over-priced and you will probably lose it immediately when you undock from the station.
2: Don't carry Skill Books. When I started, I didn't trust anybody, even the NPC Station Managers. So I kept all of my Skill Books in my cargohold, so nobody could steal them from me. I learned that it's better to trust the Station Managers than your ship's durability when it gets pummeled by 10 NPCs and you're in a frigate with low skills. Needless to say, losing 5 mil ISK in skillbooks in your first week is not fun.
3: With time, living in high-sec becomes boring. How do you avoid this? Jump in a Frigate, fit it for PVP and go into low-sec. You will not be bored, you will probably be killed and you will probably fail a lot. But you'll also find that living in low-sec can give you an adrenaline rush you don't get from living in high-sec.
4: Don't judge a ship by it's looks. For example, the Minmatar Destroyer, Thrasher, may look like a giant metallic fish, but it's still one hell of a powerhouse. Exception: The Breacher and Hound (Minmatar Missile-Frigate and Stealth Bomber respectively) both look like they can fall apart if anything touches them, and they will fall apart if anything touches them.
5: Always have an align-course set. Don't stop moving in combat. Never approach an enemy directly.
6: Learn what damage types to use against each type of enemies. Also, learn what damage types the enemies deal.
7: Once you get a Jump Clone, don't get in a pod and selfdestruct it just to see how it looks. It will just look like when you dock regularly, and you will lose those +4 implants you had in clone you tried selfdestructing. I learned the hard way that Jump Clones don't have the same implants as your current clone, and in fact, don't have implants at all.
8: Don't press F1-F8 randomly when in space. Someone will show up and target you with intentions of killing you. This doesn't matter if you have auto-targetting turned off, though.
9: Learn to use shortcuts. They make it a lot easier to do anything.
10: Whatever people may tell you, ALT-F4 is not a shortcut to exit the game. It just activates your Mid-slot module in slot 4.
11: Use Rookie Help whenever you have questions. They can help you understand how things work. Also, join the Help-channel.
12: Just because you can fly a ship, doesn't mean you should.
13: If you are offered a chance to pay a ransom, so your ship won't be destroyed, don't pay that ransom. The person offering you the opportunity will just take your money, shoot your ship and steal your loot. They don't really want your ISK. They want your tears.
14: Don't buy stuff via contracts in Jita. 99% of all contracts in Jita are scams. The rest are just fraudulent auctions, that will drag out until someone bids high enough.
15: If you don't know how many modules of one kind you need, buy more than you expect. This way, you'll have some in reserve, in case your ship is destroyed.
16: Always train skills to fly your current ship properly before moving on to the next. Don't train skills to fly a frigate for only a week before moving on to destroyers or Cruisers.
17: Being in a player-corp is more fun than being in a non-player corp. This doesn't mean you should make your own one-man corp, though. Go join an existing player corp.
18: It's better to warp out of a mission site four times, than staying in there and losing a ship.
19: If your ship isn't very tough to take down, don't put lots of deadspace and officer modules on it. They only make it a bit harder to destroy and you will regret it afterwards.
20: Know what kind of guns you use. If you're flying a Caldari or Gallente gun-boat, don't put Gyrostabilizers on it (exception here is the Gallente Battlecruiser, Myrmidon, which should use Artillery Cannons or Autocannon because it doesn't get a gun-bonus). Using modules that improve the wrong type of guns does not do wonders for your DPS. On that note, if you have a med-slot you don't know what you use on, adding a Tracking Computer with Tracking Speed Script is always useful. |
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Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
122
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Posted - 2011.09.27 07:32:00 -
[141] - Quote
A few DO's and DON'Ts...
DONT: Buy and plug-in any implants on your trial. Implants are there to augment yourself once you are familiar and experienced with pretty much everything in EVE (ie after about 2-3 months).
DONT: EVER pay anyone or ANY corp to join them. Looking for a corp can be hard, looking for a great corp is harder still. Don't give up though, and don't be afraid to leave a corp if you don't like it. Just don't pay ANYONE for the privilege of joining their corp.
DONT: Think any question is silly, stupid or whatever. Every question you ask is important to you, and the vast majority of people know that and will help you in answering it. Ask in the Rookie chat, in local or in your corp window, or out of game. If you need or would like an answer, ask the question.
DO: Drag and drop your fit from the fitting window into your group chat to ask people what they think of your fit, and how it can be improved.
DO: Ask your corp mates to tag along in some of the bigger missions. Just because you might not be able to do them yourself doesn't mean you are excluded from them. Tagging along and helping out shooting some enemies is a great way to learn how guns/missiles work.
DO: Try different things. Try mining in different ships. See what works. Try Artillery instead of auto cannons. Try P. I. Try salvaging. There are so many things to do in EVE, don't ever be afraid of trying something new. [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img] |

Black Panthera
0
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Posted - 2011.09.28 09:47:00 -
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Zinobi Alduin wrote:While I find many of these advice to be very helpfull i must ask:
- Just how do i find a good corp anyway? (I have been in quite a few meh-ones. Wish I staid in 'school', then I would at least not have to worry about wars)
- What is a care bear? From the adverts I vaguely remember from my adolescence they where brightly coloured and used some kind of chest mounted beam weapon. Avoid lasers? (or why are you using in-game jargon in a thread aimed at noobs)
And of cause, how DO I find a good corp?
If you are looking for a good corp to join early in game -- you should try Eve University. |

Signal11th
63
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Posted - 2011.09.28 12:06:00 -
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Never play EVE drunk or drugged up, you fancy stuff just gets popped quicker.
If it looks to be good to be true it is, those ten modules for sale at 10mil but are wanted in another system for 100mil its a scam.
Don't buy a monocle you'll just look like a bell-end same goes for those fecking googles as well.
If a Goon shakes your virtual hand check how many fingers you have left when they let go. Never pay anyone anything for a joining up fee or if they offer to relocate yourstuff.
Don't rush into a battleship learn the small stuff first,
Find a good corp as quick as you can (EVE university is a good place to start!), if you think your corp is crap find another one.
Treat everyone as suspect, beware greeks bearing gifts.
Become a forum warrior and let yourself be immersed in verbal diahorrhea and mental toture whilst trying to pretend you know whats going on. Serious note the forums can be a great way to get infomation just be prepared to sift through 2 pages of crap before you get it.
Judge people by what they say and do, not who they are.
If you hear about someone called Chribba or Mittani, one's ok the other is ginger. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |

engjin
The Konvergent League Shades of Gray
0
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Posted - 2011.09.28 18:47:00 -
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Get into a good Corp.
1. Don't just apply. Get with a recruiter or Corp Officer and ask a million questions. If they are worth their salt they will do an interview with you and you should interview them back. Your fun factor in game has a big impact on how close your play style is to the corp you join. If they don't want to talk to you or don't have any questions to ask then move on to your next choice 2. If they have a public channel spend some time in it talking with members to get a better feel for the culture in the corp 3. Beware of CEO's that line their pockets with corp tax or ops that provide no tangible benefits to the members or corp 4. Check KB's, forums and google on the corp and it's CEO at the very least 5. If they are in alliance, check that alliance out as well 6. Never pay to get into a corp 7. When corps say they are 'Noob friendly' ask what that means. You doing lvl 1 missions while the corp goes off to ninja a WH and answering your questions in chat does not count. Good corps that recruit new folks will set up more advanced ops that new people can join to get experience or at least to see what it's like albeit this may not happen all the time. If they never fly with you then move on 8. Someone else mentioned it but it's a very excellent point. You can join a corp and you can quit a corp, don't be afraid to leave 9. Read #1 again
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Jonah Gravenstein
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Posted - 2011.09.29 23:32:00 -
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If in doubt right click, pretty much everything in the UI has a right click menu associated with it. Right click, google and corpmates are your best friends. --CATPAIN KIRK wrote: your not black - I've seen you in that video. I meant you write like an american but speak a somewhat difrent langauge - a bit like scotish or sumthing.-- |

adopt
The Deathwatch Legion Apex United
19
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Posted - 2011.10.01 17:49:00 -
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> Don't be scared to ask questions "Rookie Help" is a good place to start, if not, check your NPC corp (if your still in it) it usually has an alt or two of older players that are willing to help.
> Don't believe Cargo Containers that are labled "free items inside", it is an activity known as can baiting, you will be killable by the owner.
> Losing ships is part of EVE, don't be afraid to lose a ship or two, just don't lose it if you can't afford to replace it Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled. |

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises Peregrine Nation
5
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Posted - 2011.10.02 00:41:00 -
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Someone asked how you find a good corp and i have not seen a post that actually covers this yet. Everyone will have different ways and opinions on how to find the right corp for them,so please dont take what i say as the only,or even correct way.
I was extremely lucky and have been in my first and only corp since day one,but after years of recruiting i have gotten a rather good idea on what people look for,what a recruiter will be looking for,and how the information can be found.
Since this is aimed towards new players i will do my best to cover what you want can do to make sure a corp is a good fit for you.
How do i find a corp?
There are several ways to find a corp,some are luck,some rely on you actually searching.
1. The recruitment channel. Personally i avoid the recruitment channel like the plague. Its very good for new corps but its also very messy,to much smack talk,and you have to put up with hours of spam. But if you decide to give it a try this is my advice. First off block anyone who spams their ads several times in a row,or within a short amount of time (a decent spammer waits 10-15 minutes between each ad atleast). Look for people who are sitting small chatting. Dont be afraid to join in on the conversation they are having. Do NOT advertise your self. Your asking to get spammed by convo invites.
2. The forums. This is the one i prefer to use. You will still have to spend hours reading trough posts that seems the same,but you have to learn to read trough the lines. Is it written in a humoristic way? Does it look like its careless? Does it sound to good to be true? (If the last one occurs thats most likely the case). Bump your own post several times during the next couple of days (but remember to follow the forum rules) and make sure as many recruits as possible can see it. Try to include something about your self,make your post more personal. Im not saying go all out like "I like to read Harry Potter and i have a collie named Lassie" just to make that clear. But dont make it to shallow either.
As an exampel "2 mill sp caldari pilot,looking for low sec or 0.0,post here"
An ad like that makes me (personally just close the thread and move on. Now lets try to ad in something that tells the recruiter more about the person.
"Im a 2 mill sp caldari player. Im interested in exploring low sec or potentially 0.0 but i would appriciate some guidance since i am still new. I am however capable of doing my own research,i just want to know that if i have a question,someone will try to help me if they can. Im in my mid 20's,got plenty of time to play due to working from home so i have no problem meeting any requierments regarding online time and operations. Thank you for your interest"
This is the kind of attitude i would be looking for in an ad and this would get a reply from me,even if im fairly sure he would not be interested,but he deserved a free bump,which will help him out.
3. Loosing your first ship. Believe it or not but even if someone just blew up your ship it does not mean that they are a bad person. Start off by looking at their corp info,then do a google search and see if you can find their recruitment ads,posts they have made on the forums,or even their KB.If it looks like something you could be interested in,contact the person who blew up your ship. Make it clear that you are not looking to whine but explain to him that you are new and that you are interested in learning the game. In most cases you will be asked to come back when you have more sp,or you will just get laughed at and convo closed,but in some cases you might end up finding a really good corp this way.
4. Random person mining in a belt,talking in local,in a WH,or even just flying a cool looking ship. Follow the steps listed above. Find information about them,then contact their official recruiter or CEO.
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises Peregrine Nation
5
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Posted - 2011.10.02 00:41:00 -
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I have found a corp i want to look into,what do i do?
1. If a recruiter asks you what you want to do in the game,dont be ashamed to tell them that you dont know yet. Most older Eve players do understand that it takes you a long time just to understand how much you can do in the game,and when you start to get an idea,you often change your path several times.
2. Personalety. The recruiter(s) normally reflect the personalety you will find from the general corp members. If you have a recruiter that does their best to talk to you,try to actually get to know you,and have a sense of humor,there is a big chanse that the rest of the corp members have the same attitude. (There is always exeptions ofc) If the recruiter(s) appears careless and just asks the basic questions like "what do you fly?when can you be online?" and so on its a good chanse that you will find your self in a large corp,but not a corp with a good social atmosphere. (Again there is always exeptions ) This however is something that depends highly on what you are looking for. Some people prefer to have corps where you feel close to other people,some dont really care that much.
3. Look at a corps age. If its a new corp its a high chanse that it will be gone within a month or two. But dont just say no to any recruiter who comes from a young corp. Listen to them,see if they have a clue about what they are doing (irealize that as a new player you wont know what running a corp in Eve involves,but basic leadership is the same) With an old corp you might run into the issue of not feeling as a part of the group. In this case just be patient. Give them time to get to know you,and trust you. Remember that Eve players,especially the older ones,are mostly so paranoid that they wouldent let their own grandmother into their corp  Its not personal,give it time and you will be glaring at the new guy as well 
4. Forums. So many people hate reading corp forums but if a corp has a forum its a good indication that they are active and willing to keep open discussions regarding corp issues.
5. Member count. A corps member count can be over 100 members but how do you know that all those people are active Ask the recruiter weather or not inactive players are removed from the corp,and if so how often. Killboards might give you a good idea of active members when your looking at a PVP corp but if your looking for an all around corp,or a carebear corp,this is not an accurate place to look.
6. If you are homosexual,deaf/mute,speak english as your second language or similar ask the recruiter how the corp feels about it. You do not want to place your self in a situation where you feel uncomfterbale or unfairly treated because of something along these lines. Most will not have any issues with any of these,but if your deaf you might have some trouble finding a serius PVP corp due to the high requierments for voice.
7. Ask if they have a public channel and ask if its ok that you hang around there for a couple of days. Dont be suprised if there is few people talking in it,most stick to their corp chats,but this will give you a good idea about how many active members they have at what times,and how their relations are with other corps,and former members If people leave on good terms its normally a good indication that nothing drastic happend.
8. Do not join the first corp that is willing to accept you! Talk around and look at other options as well. Recruits are always in high demand so you will have options.
9. Think about a recruiter as a telemarketer. Its our job to sell the corp to you,and many will straigh out lie to get a recruit. Take your time with the recruiter and potentially the members of the corp,and be patient.
I think that about covers it. Im sure people can think about more things to ad but i hope this can be of some help :)
Sorry for the long post but its a lot to include.
Regards, NightCrawler |

Xuse Senna
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2011.10.03 13:44:00 -
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Remeber that Newbie Mission, where you get a Standard frig which is meant to blow up when it reaches the station/fuel tank w/e
I never read the mission text and decided to buy a shiny new destroyer... well it went b00m.... I was lie WTF!?!? xD Lol...
Also Another newbie mission, The One where you are meant to die. I wanted to see how long I could survive... So I fitted up a Vexor I think with all Meta 4 Equipment.... Well Yeah After you kill the first unit after that its Insta-Kill for me I went down in flames almost within 10 secs... Good Times :P
Remind myself to try that mission again with a BC or BS :P (I think it will be the same result.) |

Mason Onyx
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.05 09:37:00 -
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-Don't join a corp. People will grief you and by grief I mean blow you up and pod you. |
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Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
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Posted - 2011.10.07 10:32:00 -
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Mason Onyx wrote:-Don't join a corp. People will grief you and by grief I mean blow you up and pod you. That's not always true. Always check their Kill-history on eve-kill.net before joining a corp-though. Unless you know the other members in real life. Then you can just punch them if they shoot you.
Seriously, though. A few more tips for new players:
1: Do the tutorials. You'll get lots of questions answered this way.
2: Don't be afraid of asking a lot in the Help-channel. Rookie Help isn't that good, because you can't be sure there's a GM or ISD-member online and only Rookies have access to Rookie Help. Thus, Help-channel is better (and more fun to read as well).
3: Your ship's aesthetics means nothing in combat. Sure, the Thrasher may look like a giant, rusty, metallic gubby-fish, but it's still the only small Minmatar ship that can hold 7 Tech 2 Artillery Cannons. Likewise, the Raven looks like something the cat dragged with it home, but it's still capable of dishing out a pretty good Volley Damage (EXCEPTION: The Typhoon doesn't look very good, and it really isn't either. There are only better Battleships out there.
4: Bigger =/= Better. When I got my first level 3 Mission, I first tried it in a Battlecruiser. It didn't exactly end well. Then I bought another Battlecruiser, and it ended just as well. After this, I only had money left for a Rupture, so I tried to take the level 3 Mission in that, and surprisingly enough had no trouble with it at all.
5: Know your ship. Don't stuff two Cruiser-size Beam Lasers on your Minmatar ship because it looks awesome. Looks have nothing to do with survivability... I learned that after seeing my Stabber turn into a Metal Scrap...
6: Learn to probe. Many corps will expect you to be able to find entrances to your Wormhole or potential threats in null-sec. And if you aren't in a corp, you can still get by pretty well by probing a bit around. I've once earned a fairly good pile of ISK doing this. |

Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
5
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Posted - 2011.10.08 20:54:00 -
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Don't by faction guns or launchers.
If you want to put faction weaponry on to your ship, you're probably not ready to fly that ship. I believe the only extreme circumstance on this is a Tachyon Nightmare. |

Neverlasting Fear
Broski Federation Elite Space Guild
2
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Posted - 2011.10.09 20:53:00 -
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Don't join a nullsec corp while doing tutorials. You'll end up taking a quick **** break while your rifter is being blown up by a wartarget outside of Rens.
Stop using autopilot ******.
That badger who's sitting 30km off the gate? He's going to kick your ass if you engage him. |
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