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Erin Feineneu
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Posted - 2009.06.26 13:32:00 -
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 Originally by: beor oranes
Easy solution...ban clothes
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Ban organically produced or chemically synthethized potential weapon and/or narcotics concealment accessory
Here, made it do-able.  |
Kessiaan
Minmatar
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.06.26 20:27:00 -
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I'm glad of this ruling as well - the manner in which the search was conducted was a clear violation of the 4th Amendment, which is binding on ALL government employees, not just law enforcement. It sets a very poor and dangerous precedent when we tell our children they have no right to due process, simplified though it may need to be. |
CHAOS100
Widowmakers
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Posted - 2009.06.26 20:53:00 -
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Land of the free.
free to strip search young girls, i guess.
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nahtoh
Caldari
Vanguard Frontiers
Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.06.26 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Originally by: nahtoh
Edited by: nahtoh on 26/06/2009 01:24:26
Ah just when the UKs overcontrolling feckwits (formally known as the goverment) start to get me down I can always count on the USA to make me feel "well it could be worse".
Bur seroulsy WTF is up with the total fectwits that make this **** up?
What's it like having your every action videotaped over there, eh?
Not so good. What's it like having your every phone call listened to over there, eh?
Look, the post you're replying isn't "UK BETTAR THEN TEH US HA HA U SUK". It's "We're awful, but I find a gloomy consolation in the fact that at least there are still a few ways in which some other countries are more awful than us"
Better reply than mine...thanks Malcanis.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.26 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: CHAOS100
Land of the free.
free to strip search young girls, i guess.
ITT: Bitter people who are not american who think the solitary crazy/stupid stuff our courts and attention craving mass media bring out into the spotlight are the norm.  |
Munchees
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Posted - 2009.06.26 22:27:00 -
[36]
Originally by: CHAOS100
Land of the free.
free to strip search young girls, i guess.
Only if they are over 18, sign a consent form, and are videotaped. |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.26 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Munchees
Originally by: CHAOS100
Land of the free.
free to strip search young girls, i guess.
Only if they are over 18, sign a consent form, and are videotaped.
Something that is hardly confined to american shores. /me looks pointedly at several european cities and all of the orient who don't even wait till they are 18.  |
Northern Fall
Minmatar
Guild Academy
Guild Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.26 23:34:00 -
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We had bouncers with authority to body search us for knives, alcohol and drugs at our leavers prom yesterday.
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Munchees
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Posted - 2009.06.26 23:37:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Northern Fall
We had bouncers with authority to body search us for knives, alcohol and drugs at our leavers prom yesterday.
SUE THEM!!!!!!! |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.26 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Northern Fall
We had bouncers with authority to body search us for knives, alcohol and drugs at our leavers prom yesterday.
I'm sure the bouncers had a good time after the prom with all the illegal goodies they nicked off the kids. I'm not that old to forget what prom night was and still is like.  |
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Kamihami
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kamihami on 30/06/2009 14:03:36
it's a bit more than violation of privacy, though that's certainly part of it, it feels like an understatement...perhaps child molestation would be an overstatement, but it's certainly between the two...
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Would it be better if it was a boy they molested?
nope, it wouldn't be better to insist a 13 year old boy take off his underpants to see if he's hiding any painkillers down there. (though I doubt he'd be hiding any in his bra  )
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They had the nurse do the search, which I would rank above a cop and below a doctor on the strip-search-o-graph. If the principle did the search himself, I might be with you on the molestation thing. Near as I can tell, those involved had the best intentions, they're just horribly incompetent.
Hm. Not sure what the best intentions could be, when the intention is to strip search a child to ensure they don't have any painkillers on their person (yes, great, lets protect the kids from over the counter perscriptions they could take at home. if they weren't protected from painkillers, then they might have to deal with not having headaches or period pains, and crikey, then they might be able to concentrate on their school work...) on the basis of an unsubstantiated tip from another child...
I'll agree with them being horribly incompetent, but it seems more like they were just trying to forcibly get her to comply with their own policies in the most controlling and humiliating way possible without any real evidence that she was breaking them...rather than actually giving a damn about her personally.
Not sure it matters really who did it or how official their capacity was. Yes, if she had a medical condition which required someone to look at her breasts and pelvic area for her own safety, then a doctor or nurse would be required, but even then there should be the issue of consent. Given the reason for the strip search was checking up on possible deviation from the school rules, it doesn't make much difference if it was a cop, teacher, principle, nurse or doctor - none of them have the right to do so.
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Angelic Visage
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:09:00 -
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Surely you'd want to cover your bases and make sure you had an officer there and even better inform the parents straight away to come and try and deal with it before the search was necessary?
Mind boggles at the sheer idiocy
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StationSpinner
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Posted - 2009.06.30 18:15:00 -
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Just usher in an overtly totalitarian government. Then none of this will come as a surprise to you
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