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Jabezhane
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Posted - 2009.06.27 15:16:00 -
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Crikey you cant have everyone mining in this game!
If mining was the most profitable occupation in real life we'd all be doing it. But no there are some things that actually can make you more money.
They just require a bit more effort, skill or risk.
Maybe CCP should bring out EVE - Mining Edition. Whereby the only ships and modules avaialable are mining ones.
Might improve the performance of EVE Online for the rest of us who arent quite so anal about mining. |
Jabezhane
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Posted - 2009.06.27 23:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Viule Sawyr
Edited by: Viule Sawyr on 27/06/2009 17:54:46
This always annoys me when people say Mining takes no skill or effort. First off to mine in high sec and make money you have to mine Veld. Veld is always sucked dry in most station systems with in a few hours.
Blah blah blah.......
The conclusion is I think I'll probably sell my miners and buy a high skill mission running/ratting toon..
Hey I know what it takes... I'm fully trained up on a hulk, I used to run mining ops. But it doesnt take any real skill, just patience and high tolerance to boredom.
I joined a mining op some friends of mine were running a few months ago. They needed some help so I dusted off the hulk and away we went. I hadnt mined since the orcas came out. Well that just killed mining for me totally. Whats skillful about melting belts in 15 minutes a go? No challenge, no effort, no skill. I remember when it took an hour a belt.
So you now have to hunt for belts? Well someone must have had a whine and asked for orcas? Why not just get rid of orcas and then you can put some effort back into mining.
The only issue is the Orca. Get rid of the orca and folks can stop moaning about all the missing belts.
You got it too easy and now even thats not right.
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Jabezhane
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Posted - 2009.06.28 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Viule Sawyr
Edited by: Viule Sawyr on 28/06/2009 00:27:18
Congrats! You managed to miss the entire point I was making and the point of this topic....
We were comparing income vs miners and LVL4 mission runners. As stated in this topic, 1 LVL4 mission runner can make more per Hour than 3 mining toons.
Running 1 hulk is a bit different than running 4. Try running that hulk times 4 because you have to do all the same things 4 times. Meaning you don't click the mining lasers and go off to do something for 20 mins.
With gang links and high leadership skills and high mining skills, you are cycling the mining lasers and moving ore as much as some guy in a LVL4 is targeting ships and engaging his guns.
While it might be boring it certainly isn't something you can sit by idly and do unless you are mining ice. Even then you still have to move the ore, just not as often.
btw getting rid of Orca would make your point even worse.. With out the orca a single mining toon would be lucky to make 10mil/hr. Meanwhile a single LVL4 mission toon or ratting toon can make 30 to 40mil.
Yet you think mining is too easy and needs no Orcas? 
At 10mil and hour a single mining toon would require over 40 hours of mining to buy a 30day plex. That sound right to you? Seems a bit like income from mining sucks don't yea think?
No the issue is mining is now too easy (hey nearly everyone is doing it) and therefore the reward is comparitively less.
Its just as it should be. If you guys think scrapping over every last bit of veld is fun well you just carry on. Thats the only challenge...finding belts.
As you say do the lvl4's and make more. Far more interesting...for a while.
No one said this game should be easy to self finance through grinding rocks. Show me the small print where it says that you should be able to play this game from effort alone?
Life isnt fair. Get used to it.
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Jabezhane
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Posted - 2009.07.10 17:11:00 -
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As I said before, the Orca is the problem.
Before Orca - Plenty of Veld, plenty of belts, plenty of effort needed, plenty to do for mining ops and solo folks.
After Orca - No veld, not many worthwhile belts, no effort needed, nothing for solo folks and a real pain scouting for decent belts for your gangs to work on.
I couldnt believe what it was like to do a mining op with an orca pushing the bonuses. It really was just taking the p*ss. Its a farce.
Get rid of the Orcas (say there is a major flaw in their reactor and you get a market value refund) and then things can get back to normal.
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Jabezhane
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Posted - 2009.07.10 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Mutnin
You need to read what I just posted above the Orca is "NOT" the problem. This isn't a "Because of Orca" issue..
Well I reckon it is. I dont remember many of these types of post before the Orca was introduced. Now its all "oh my its soo hard for us miners..there are no belts but all those mission people are doing so well now!"
Mining has just got too efficient. Needs a ner.......
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Jabezhane
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Posted - 2009.07.11 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mutnin
I assume you are just being a troll, because if you look at the stats that were provided by "CCP" you can clearly see that loot drops and the drone regions put more minerals on the market than mining. Hence making "Because of Orca" not even an issue.
I love how if anyone has a differing opinion (after all thats all it is) and you cant turn them round to your way of thinking then they are automatically a 'troll'. How convenient.
No its simply a case of we must agree to disagree.
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