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Ephemeron
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Posted - 2004.09.20 23:27:00 -
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The people who abuse alts usually end up alt farming - the create one, use him, delete him, create another one. It takes a while to delete an alt, I dunno how many hows exactly since I never bothered with thm.
Here's the trick - for every time you delete an alt, it would take TWICE as long to delete him next time. After a few deleted alts, people would stop, cause it would take forever to delete.
How about it?
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Ephemeron
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Posted - 2004.09.20 23:27:00 -
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The people who abuse alts usually end up alt farming - the create one, use him, delete him, create another one. It takes a while to delete an alt, I dunno how many hows exactly since I never bothered with thm.
Here's the trick - for every time you delete an alt, it would take TWICE as long to delete him next time. After a few deleted alts, people would stop, cause it would take forever to delete.
How about it?
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.09.20 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 20/09/2004 23:39:04 It's got my vote.
Oh and Idea Lab. 
Convert Stations
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.09.20 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 20/09/2004 23:39:04 It's got my vote.
Oh and Idea Lab. 
Convert Stations
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.09.20 23:52:00 -
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Goodness! Say no to Yulai gate ganking with alts, say no to Tundragon with alts!
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.09.20 23:52:00 -
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Goodness! Say no to Yulai gate ganking with alts, say no to Tundragon with alts!
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2004.09.21 00:38:00 -
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this idea has been aproved by frank horrigan 
Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Bhaal What has turned out better than expected?
Everything. Remember, we're from Iceland.
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This i |

Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2004.09.21 00:38:00 -
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this idea has been aproved by frank horrigan 
Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Bhaal What has turned out better than expected?
Everything. Remember, we're from Iceland.
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This i |

Naos Zapatero
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Posted - 2004.09.21 01:06:00 -
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great idea!
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Naos Zapatero
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Posted - 2004.09.21 01:06:00 -
[10]
great idea!
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Skelator
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Posted - 2004.09.21 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: Skelator on 21/09/2004 02:38:18 2 Weeks Minimum would be the ideal solution
A. It would stop Scammers and Ebayers or at least put a thorn in their sides. And B. It would stop griefers and their one shot disposable ALT.s
Ohh yeah and C. Stop the multip[le ALT forum Spammers

They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |

Skelator
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Posted - 2004.09.21 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: Skelator on 21/09/2004 02:38:18 2 Weeks Minimum would be the ideal solution
A. It would stop Scammers and Ebayers or at least put a thorn in their sides. And B. It would stop griefers and their one shot disposable ALT.s
Ohh yeah and C. Stop the multip[le ALT forum Spammers

They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |

Araviel
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Posted - 2004.09.21 03:38:00 -
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signed 
EPIC Recruitment post
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Araviel
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Posted - 2004.09.21 03:38:00 -
[14]
signed 
EPIC Recruitment post
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Astinius
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Posted - 2004.09.21 03:41:00 -
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*Signed*
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Astinius
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Posted - 2004.09.21 03:41:00 -
[16]
*Signed*
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2004.09.21 03:56:00 -
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It makes too much sense. Hence we'll never see it....
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2004.09.21 03:56:00 -
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It makes too much sense. Hence we'll never see it....
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SOL0
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Posted - 2004.09.21 04:21:00 -
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When will you people get a clue? ALTs aren't likely to change anytime soon. Ephemeron... for someone who has NEVER done the alt thing... you are good at just throwing stuff out there hoping you are getting close to the truth.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |

SOL0
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Posted - 2004.09.21 04:21:00 -
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When will you people get a clue? ALTs aren't likely to change anytime soon. Ephemeron... for someone who has NEVER done the alt thing... you are good at just throwing stuff out there hoping you are getting close to the truth.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.09.21 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Vince Draken It makes too much sense. Hence we'll never see it....
Yep.
Still... SIGNED. -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.09.21 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Vince Draken It makes too much sense. Hence we'll never see it....
Yep.
Still... SIGNED. -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

hired goon
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Posted - 2004.09.21 09:53:00 -
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One character per account. Everybody wins. ------------
We come in peace. And tanks. |

hired goon
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Posted - 2004.09.21 09:53:00 -
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One character per account. Everybody wins. ------------
We come in peace. And tanks. |

s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2004.09.21 09:59:00 -
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signed Bjorn Borg : Underwear is futile ! |

s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2004.09.21 09:59:00 -
[26]
signed Bjorn Borg : Underwear is futile ! |

Arlen Seek
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Posted - 2004.09.21 10:19:00 -
[27]
*signed*
E Pluribus Unum
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Arlen Seek
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Posted - 2004.09.21 10:19:00 -
[28]
*signed*
E Pluribus Unum
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2004.09.21 10:23:00 -
[29]
*Signed*
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2004.09.21 10:23:00 -
[30]
*Signed*
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.09.21 10:27:00 -
[31]
Excellent idea.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.09.21 10:27:00 -
[32]
Excellent idea.
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Chade Malloy
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Posted - 2004.09.21 10:31:00 -
[33]
Thats a simple yet elegant soultion.
signed!
Patience wins. |

Chade Malloy
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Posted - 2004.09.21 10:31:00 -
[34]
Thats a simple yet elegant soultion.
signed!
Patience wins. |

Jozef Meurtrier
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Posted - 2004.09.21 10:46:00 -
[35]
Originally by: hired goon One character per account. Everybody wins.
I vote for this one. If Oveur is getting rid of safespots, lets go all the way and get rid of alts aswell.Sure people would be ****ed off about it for a while, and with every change there is always some drama queen who shouts "OMFG I QUIT!"
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Jozef Meurtrier
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Posted - 2004.09.21 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon One character per account. Everybody wins.
I vote for this one. If Oveur is getting rid of safespots, lets go all the way and get rid of alts aswell.Sure people would be ****ed off about it for a while, and with every change there is always some drama queen who shouts "OMFG I QUIT!"
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flummox
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Posted - 2004.09.21 13:32:00 -
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read the orange...
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |

flummox
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Posted - 2004.09.21 13:32:00 -
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read the orange...
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |

agrizla
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Posted - 2004.09.21 13:53:00 -
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Damn good idea. Should be nice and easy to code too.
/signed
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agrizla
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Posted - 2004.09.21 13:53:00 -
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Damn good idea. Should be nice and easy to code too.
/signed
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.09.21 14:02:00 -
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And if you want to get really nasty, suspend all skill training on the entire account whilst a char is deleting.
+1
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.09.21 14:02:00 -
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And if you want to get really nasty, suspend all skill training on the entire account whilst a char is deleting.
+1
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Meehan
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Posted - 2004.09.21 14:25:00 -
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One character per account? Splendid idea! Weeks to delete characters? BAD IDEA! Cumulative penalty for deleting characters? BAD IDEA!
Why? Because sometimes when people want to delete their main and make a new character, it takes many characters before you are happy with the result. Been there, done that. If the only viable alternative would have been to buy a new account alltogether because it took 89 hours every time I changed my mind regarding an attribute point, I for one would be a customer CCP wouldn't have.
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Meehan
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Posted - 2004.09.21 14:25:00 -
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One character per account? Splendid idea! Weeks to delete characters? BAD IDEA! Cumulative penalty for deleting characters? BAD IDEA!
Why? Because sometimes when people want to delete their main and make a new character, it takes many characters before you are happy with the result. Been there, done that. If the only viable alternative would have been to buy a new account alltogether because it took 89 hours every time I changed my mind regarding an attribute point, I for one would be a customer CCP wouldn't have.
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TekRa
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Posted - 2004.09.21 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Meehan One character per account? Splendid idea! Weeks to delete characters? BAD IDEA! Cumulative penalty for deleting characters? BAD IDEA!
Why? Because sometimes when people want to delete their main and make a new character, it takes many characters before you are happy with the result. Been there, done that. If the only viable alternative would have been to buy a new account alltogether because it took 89 hours every time I changed my mind regarding an attribute point, I for one would be a customer CCP wouldn't have.
That's why they added a back button to the character creation screens, plus if it's cumulative you should get a few goes anyway without too much time between making chars, at least 2 more goes right away of you don't have alts to sart with.
*signed*
> With the lights out it's less dangerous. |

TekRa
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Posted - 2004.09.21 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Meehan One character per account? Splendid idea! Weeks to delete characters? BAD IDEA! Cumulative penalty for deleting characters? BAD IDEA!
Why? Because sometimes when people want to delete their main and make a new character, it takes many characters before you are happy with the result. Been there, done that. If the only viable alternative would have been to buy a new account alltogether because it took 89 hours every time I changed my mind regarding an attribute point, I for one would be a customer CCP wouldn't have.
That's why they added a back button to the character creation screens, plus if it's cumulative you should get a few goes anyway without too much time between making chars, at least 2 more goes right away of you don't have alts to sart with.
*signed*
> With the lights out it's less dangerous. |

voidvim
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Posted - 2004.09.21 15:00:00 -
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/signed
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voidvim
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Posted - 2004.09.21 15:00:00 -
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/signed
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.09.21 15:02:00 -
[49]
Signed. -- Stories: #1 --
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.09.21 15:02:00 -
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Signed. -- Stories: #1 --
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Meehan
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Posted - 2004.09.21 15:05:00 -
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By the way, I should emphasize that I really, really support the idea of only having one character per account. But giving cumulative punishments bound to an already flawed system is just bad imo, it's an half-arsed solution to a problem which can be more thoroughly fixed.
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Meehan
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Posted - 2004.09.21 15:05:00 -
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By the way, I should emphasize that I really, really support the idea of only having one character per account. But giving cumulative punishments bound to an already flawed system is just bad imo, it's an half-arsed solution to a problem which can be more thoroughly fixed.
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eXaro
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Posted - 2004.09.21 15:31:00 -
[53]
signed
[i]Innocent child how you thought you knew me understood my ways my dark needs the hunt is not the thrill Im after I want the kill the conquest to |

eXaro
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Posted - 2004.09.21 15:31:00 -
[54]
signed
[i]Innocent child how you thought you knew me understood my ways my dark needs the hunt is not the thrill Im after I want the kill the conquest to |

Thraxll
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Posted - 2004.09.21 17:42:00 -
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Good idea. 
"The long and short of it is that this game, or any game, is either going to be a kindergarten where it's safe and cuddly and secure and you can play with plush tigers, or it will be a harsh place, harsh but interesting and interesting because harsh, where you must take risks to succeed and so must everyone, since victory is tasteless without danger." - Raivn Akhama
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Thraxll
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Posted - 2004.09.21 17:42:00 -
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Good idea. 
"The long and short of it is that this game, or any game, is either going to be a kindergarten where it's safe and cuddly and secure and you can play with plush tigers, or it will be a harsh place, harsh but interesting and interesting because harsh, where you must take risks to succeed and so must everyone, since victory is tasteless without danger." - Raivn Akhama
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Bele gorri
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Posted - 2004.09.21 18:24:00 -
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Signed
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Bele gorri
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Posted - 2004.09.21 18:24:00 -
[58]
Signed
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Gasparde
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Posted - 2004.09.21 18:34:00 -
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Outstanding solution.
/signed
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Gasparde
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Posted - 2004.09.21 18:34:00 -
[60]
Outstanding solution.
/signed
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missedme
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Posted - 2004.09.21 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Excavation Svcs Goodness! Say no to Yulai gate ganking with alts, say no to Tundragon with alts!
Heh an alt against alts imagine that 
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missedme
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Posted - 2004.09.21 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Excavation Svcs Goodness! Say no to Yulai gate ganking with alts, say no to Tundragon with alts!
Heh an alt against alts imagine that 
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.09.21 19:40:00 -
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Signed :D Just as another idea, could make it so you can only make so many alts in a time frame, like 1 alt per month. ------------------------------------------
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.09.21 19:40:00 -
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Signed :D Just as another idea, could make it so you can only make so many alts in a time frame, like 1 alt per month. ------------------------------------------
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2004.09.21 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jozef Meurtrier
Originally by: hired goon One character per account. Everybody wins.
I vote for this one. If Oveur is getting rid of safespots, lets go all the way and get rid of alts aswell.Sure people would be ****ed off about it for a while, and with every change there is always some drama queen who shouts "OMFG I QUIT!"
Okay, and for those of us who have more than one character on an account for legitimate purposes, and have dedicated training time to them?
Losing a 4mil SP character just cause people abuse alts is unacceptable.
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2004.09.21 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jozef Meurtrier
Originally by: hired goon One character per account. Everybody wins.
I vote for this one. If Oveur is getting rid of safespots, lets go all the way and get rid of alts aswell.Sure people would be ****ed off about it for a while, and with every change there is always some drama queen who shouts "OMFG I QUIT!"
Okay, and for those of us who have more than one character on an account for legitimate purposes, and have dedicated training time to them?
Losing a 4mil SP character just cause people abuse alts is unacceptable.
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Brobro
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Posted - 2004.09.21 22:14:00 -
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bah, Ephemeron I hate you. Your idea makes sense...
ah well I sign my name. its a good idea, I wish it would have been mine. 
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Brobro
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Posted - 2004.09.21 22:14:00 -
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bah, Ephemeron I hate you. Your idea makes sense...
ah well I sign my name. its a good idea, I wish it would have been mine. 
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.21 22:26:00 -
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Yeah I mean, instead of taking care of the PROBLEM, alt gankers in empire, let's screw everyone in the game and take their alts away, even tho they have put considerable training time into them.
Is my subscription price gonna be cut by 1/3rd?
Bad idea. An idea the devs have stated matter of fact that they will not entertain for months and months.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.21 22:26:00 -
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Yeah I mean, instead of taking care of the PROBLEM, alt gankers in empire, let's screw everyone in the game and take their alts away, even tho they have put considerable training time into them.
Is my subscription price gonna be cut by 1/3rd?
Bad idea. An idea the devs have stated matter of fact that they will not entertain for months and months.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.09.21 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 22/09/2004 00:01:21 Read before posting.
No-one said anything about taking alts away, the idea was for it to be an investment. The ability to delete it over and over to create more scammer and orelifter alts than anyone care to remember and keep track of would be minimized, as the timer for deleting an alt would be set to a longer and longer processing time.
Convert Stations
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.09.21 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 22/09/2004 00:01:21 Read before posting.
No-one said anything about taking alts away, the idea was for it to be an investment. The ability to delete it over and over to create more scammer and orelifter alts than anyone care to remember and keep track of would be minimized, as the timer for deleting an alt would be set to a longer and longer processing time.
Convert Stations
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MrBinary
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Posted - 2004.09.22 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron The people who abuse alts usually end up alt farming - the create one, use him, delete him, create another one. It takes a while to delete an alt, I dunno how many hows exactly since I never bothered with thm.
Here's the trick - for every time you delete an alt, it would take TWICE as long to delete him next time. After a few deleted alts, people would stop, cause it would take forever to delete.
How about it?
Simple and effective.
Signed, MrBinary
"[ 2004.05.20 20:11:42 ] Hodal Xibur > Die MrBinary" |

MrBinary
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Posted - 2004.09.22 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron The people who abuse alts usually end up alt farming - the create one, use him, delete him, create another one. It takes a while to delete an alt, I dunno how many hows exactly since I never bothered with thm.
Here's the trick - for every time you delete an alt, it would take TWICE as long to delete him next time. After a few deleted alts, people would stop, cause it would take forever to delete.
How about it?
Simple and effective.
Signed, MrBinary
"[ 2004.05.20 20:11:42 ] Hodal Xibur > Die MrBinary" |

Finderne
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Posted - 2004.09.22 03:12:00 -
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I think it's a good idea, but the people making mischief with alts will get around it pretty easily without other changes to how CCP handles new accts. CCP would need to put in something like a respectable setup charge on new accts or ppl would just cancel a 2nd acct and start a new one if creating new alts on an existing acct got to be a hassle.
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Finderne
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Posted - 2004.09.22 03:12:00 -
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I think it's a good idea, but the people making mischief with alts will get around it pretty easily without other changes to how CCP handles new accts. CCP would need to put in something like a respectable setup charge on new accts or ppl would just cancel a 2nd acct and start a new one if creating new alts on an existing acct got to be a hassle.
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Astinius
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Posted - 2004.09.22 04:06:00 -
[77]
*Signed*
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Astinius
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Posted - 2004.09.22 04:06:00 -
[78]
*Signed*
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Brunis
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Posted - 2004.09.22 06:24:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Aitrus
Originally by: Jozef Meurtrier
Originally by: hired goon One character per account. Everybody wins.
I vote for this one. If Oveur is getting rid of safespots, lets go all the way and get rid of alts aswell.Sure people would be ****ed off about it for a while, and with every change there is always some drama queen who shouts "OMFG I QUIT!"
Okay, and for those of us who have more than one character on an account for legitimate purposes, and have dedicated training time to them?
Losing a 4mil SP character just cause people abuse alts is unacceptable.
Give people the posibility to move the alts over to another account. Alt are in my book ruining the game more than anything else, also alot of flaming on the forum would probely disapear if we got rid of alts 
/Brunis Another dog lifting its leg |

Brunis
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Posted - 2004.09.22 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Aitrus
Originally by: Jozef Meurtrier
Originally by: hired goon One character per account. Everybody wins.
I vote for this one. If Oveur is getting rid of safespots, lets go all the way and get rid of alts aswell.Sure people would be ****ed off about it for a while, and with every change there is always some drama queen who shouts "OMFG I QUIT!"
Okay, and for those of us who have more than one character on an account for legitimate purposes, and have dedicated training time to them?
Losing a 4mil SP character just cause people abuse alts is unacceptable.
Give people the posibility to move the alts over to another account. Alt are in my book ruining the game more than anything else, also alot of flaming on the forum would probely disapear if we got rid of alts 
/Brunis Another dog lifting its leg |
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