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Seichen Sanyalo	Posted - 2009.06.28 05:58:00 - [1] Ok, so I am wondering how much isk is left behind when the average hulk gets suicide ganked? Its got to be so boring for them to sit at thier computers and mine for hours upon hours, so I want to help make the game more enjoyable for them by letting them in on some fun pvp. /sarcasm off Seriously, they look like juicy targets. What is usually left behind when a hulk gets blown up? Some of thier modules? Maybe thier cargo if they had any? And what level salvageing is needed to salvage a hulk wreck?
Lana Hellfury Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.06.28 06:00:00 - [2] Not enough to cover the cost of the ship you just lost normally.. T2 salvage can fetch some isk if you get the right stuff... People usually do this for lulz or to **** off macro miners.
Seichen Sanyalo	Posted - 2009.06.28 06:05:00 - [3] Oh, also meant to ask, how many times can you pop a ship in highsec before your standings are too low to stay in highsec?
Herty The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention	Posted - 2009.06.28 06:19:00 - [4] Originally by: Seichen Sanyalo Oh, also meant to ask, how many times can you pop a ship in highsec before your standings are too low to stay in highsec? Buy an orca and you wont have to worry about standings.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.06.28 06:24:00 - [5] Originally by: Lana Hellfury Not enough to cover the cost of the ship you just lost normally.. T2 salvage can fetch some isk if you get the right stuff... People usually do this for lulz or to **** off macro miners. Not true.
The Crushah Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.06.28 06:28:00 - [6] Originally by: Lana Hellfury Not enough to cover the cost of the ship you just lost normally.. T2 salvage can fetch some isk if you get the right stuff... People usually do this for lulz or to **** off macro miners. We killed a Hulk with ORE strip miners which we sold for 1.5B. Thats enough to keep us in Thoraxes for quite a while.
Lana Hellfury Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.06.28 06:30:00 - [7] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Lana Hellfury Not enough to cover the cost of the ship you just lost normally.. T2 salvage can fetch some isk if you get the right stuff... People usually do this for lulz or to **** off macro miners. Not true. Sush! I dont want my hulk pilot to get suisided!
Awesome Possum Insert Obscure Latin Name	Posted - 2009.06.28 06:30:00 - [8] alt in frig passive targeter, ship scanner, cargo scanner check modules on market. IF module price / 2 > ship loss + insurance + fittings THEN end hulk i'm tired as ****, that may have come out wrong, but you know what i'm getting at. ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2009.06.28 06:34:00 - [9] The proper formula is If hulk Then shoot
Misanth Reaper Industries	Posted - 2009.06.28 06:54:00 - [10] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin The proper formula is If hulk Then shoot
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2009.06.28 07:24:00 - [11] Actually the proper formula is If targetable Then shoot
Seichen Sanyalo	Posted - 2009.06.28 07:41:00 - [12] Originally by: Awesome Possum alt in frig passive targeter, ship scanner, cargo scanner check modules on market. will targetting still be passive after using the ship scanner? and is ship/cargo scanning not aggression?
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2009.06.28 07:51:00 - [13] Passive targeters keep the target from being alerted of targeting until aggression occurs Ship and or Cargo Scanners are not aggressive
randomname4me	Posted - 2009.06.28 11:32:00 - [14] OT but what is the typical ship and fit used to kill hulks in high sec? EVE Online: Rated RRR- For Explicit Breakfast Piercing Bullets.
TimMc Gallente Extradition	Posted - 2009.06.28 16:58:00 - [15] Originally by: randomname4me OT but what is the typical ship and fit used to kill hulks in high sec? as many t1 guns and damage mods as you can fit.
Pandemic97731	Posted - 2009.06.28 23:27:00 - [16] Originally by: The Crushah Originally by: Lana Hellfury Not enough to cover the cost of the ship you just lost normally.. T2 salvage can fetch some isk if you get the right stuff... People usually do this for lulz or to **** off macro miners. We killed a Hulk with ORE strip miners which we sold for 1.5B. Thats enough to keep us in Thoraxes for quite a while. ============================================================ You got 1.5 billion from 3 Ore strip miners? Now I KNOW you're a liar. You can't get that much from type II strip miners. Type II strip miners are about 3 million ISKS apiece, so at the most you could get 9 million. You need to stop lying.
FU22 Pigs In Space United Proletariat Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.28 23:29:00 - [17] Originally by: Pandemic97731 Originally by: The Crushah Originally by: Lana Hellfury Not enough to cover the cost of the ship you just lost normally.. T2 salvage can fetch some isk if you get the right stuff... People usually do this for lulz or to ** off macro miners. We killed a Hulk with ORE strip miners which we sold for 1.5B. Thats enough to keep us in Thoraxes for quite a while. ============================================================ You got 1.5 billion from 3 Ore strip miners? Now I KNOW you're a liar. You can't get that much from type II strip miners. Type II strip miners are about 3 million ISKS apiece, so at the most you could get 9 million. You need to stop lying. You must be a troll right. Incase ur not: he said ORE** strip miners, look em up
Pandemic97731	Posted - 2009.06.29 00:06:00 - [18] Edited by: Pandemic97731 on 29/06/2009 00:07:32 Originally by: FU22 Originally by: Pandemic97731 Originally by: The Crushah Originally by: Lana Hellfury Not enough to cover the cost of the ship you just lost normally.. T2 salvage can fetch some isk if you get the right stuff... People usually do this for lulz or to ** off macro miners. We killed a Hulk with ORE strip miners which we sold for 1.5B. Thats enough to keep us in Thoraxes for quite a while. ============================================================ You got 1.5 billion from 3 Ore strip miners? Now I KNOW you're a liar. You can't get that much from type II strip miners. Type II strip miners are about 3 million ISKS apiece, so at the most you could get 9 million. You need to stop lying. You must be a troll right. Incase ur not: he said ORE** strip miners, look em up ==================================================== Whatever. He said he killed a HULK(Exhumer) that had ORE strip Miners that sold for 1.5 billion. I looked it up and the strip miners section in the market has: Strip Miner I = 1.5 Million ISKs each Modulated Strip Miner II = 4 million ISKs each Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner II = 7.7 million ISKs each. So just in case you guys are speaking some form of screwed up English, and you are actually talking about the Exhumer(HULK)itself which is made by the company ORE the price for that is: 110 to 112 million ISKs each. I searched all over and there is no such creature as : ORE strip miners, unless you are referring to the actual ship itself, but as for the Strip miners themselves they are NOT as pricey as that guy tries to say they are. Based on this I believe that guy is lying to make himself seem like he mad a lot of money, when actually he made at best 9 to 15 million depending on what else he was able to salvage from the Hulk's wreck and other modules. Sounds too me like I have caught another lame, eve, liar.
Christian Trader	Posted - 2009.06.29 00:26:00 - [19] Originally by: Pandemic97731 Whatever. He said he killed a HULK(Exhumer) that had ORE strip Miners that sold for 1.5 billion. I looked it up and the strip miners section in the market has: Strip Miner I = 1.5 Million ISKs each Modulated Strip Miner II = 4 million ISKs each Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner II = 7.7 million ISKs each. So just in case you guys are speaking some form of screwed up English, and you are actually talking about the Exhumer(HULK)itself which is made by the company ORE the price for that is: 110 to 112 million ISKs each. I searched all over and there is no such creature as : ORE strip miners, unless you are referring to the actual ship itself, but as for the Strip miners themselves they are NOT as pricey as that guy tries to say they are. Based on this I believe that guy is lying to make himself seem like he mad a lot of money, when actually he made at best 9 to 15 million depending on what else he was able to salvage from the Hulk's wreck and other modules. Sounds too me like I have caught another lame, eve, liar. quoting so u can't change it later protip: most faction stuff doesn't show up on the market, check contracts scrub
Bud Tugly Empire Arms Dealers	Posted - 2009.06.29 00:52:00 - [20] Originally by: Pandemic97731 Some silly nonsense LOL Nothing better than a FAIL tinfoil hat rant on a Sunday afternoon. Calm down there Pandemic97731 before you fall into even deeper douche-baggery.
Commander Yassir Perkone	Posted - 2009.06.29 01:02:00 - [21] Uhhh... ORE strip miners are special faction strip miners that are apparently really, really, really, valuable. Faction stuff doesn't show up on the market. You sir, need to read before posting. ~ The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on.
Gallente Citizen20090206 Holographic Universe	Posted - 2009.06.29 01:23:00 - [22] Originally by: Pandemic97731 ============================================= ==================================== ====================== ===== HURRFFF DURFFFFFFFFF IM GAY ================== =================== ================================ ============================= ================================ ============= =========== Tru dat
Pajama Sam Copia-WarRages Armaments	Posted - 2009.06.29 01:24:00 - [23] Originally by: Pandemic97731 I didn't know faction stuff doesn't show up in the market dur dur. Anyways to answer to OP's question, if you're trying to profit off ganking hulks, always scan them first to see what the have fit. Also, salvaging at level 1 should be enough to salvage the wreck. The higher your skill is in salvaging, the greater your chance is to successfully salvage a wreck.
The Crushah Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.06.29 01:47:00 - [24] Yup, im a liar. Every single thing I say is a lie. OR IS IT?
Misanth Reaper Industries	Posted - 2009.06.29 01:50:00 - [25] Originally by: The Crushah Yup, im a liar. Every single thing I say is a lie. OR IS IT? DUN DUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNN - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Awesome Possum Insert Obscure Latin Name	Posted - 2009.06.29 01:57:00 - [26] Market > Search > Strip Miner > Info > Variations > HOLY **** ORE STRIP MINER! ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Pandemic97731	Posted - 2009.06.29 02:50:00 - [27] Originally by: Awesome Possum Market > Search > Strip Miner > Info > Variations > HOLY **** ORE STRIP MINER! ----------------------------------------------------- Cough Um.... I guess I screwed up. Forgot to check "variations" Walks away with egg on face...
Taedrin Gallente Golden Mechanization Protectorate	Posted - 2009.06.29 03:19:00 - [28] Edited by: Taedrin on 29/06/2009 03:20:12 [EDIT:] had to post this twice [/EDIT] Being a carebear myself, I would have to say it depends on where you are killing hulks. In high sec, the average hulk would have a fitting similar to: 3x T2 strips (~3m) 3x mining crystals + extras (negligible) 1x T2 small shield booster (so you don't have to worry about rats) (under 1m) 1x survey scanner (so you can pick the good roids instead of the bad ones, or so that you can micromanage your lasers and shut them off when the asteroid runs out of ore) (negligible) 2x Mining Laser Upgrade IIs or 2x Expanded Cargohold II (say 2m? Can't remember how much MLU II's cost) 2x Cargo rigs (always destroyed) That means that the average hulk has a maximum of 6 million ISK worth of loot dropped (not counting ore) Please note that there is a significant chance that items will be destroyed instead of dropped. I have no idea what the chances are, but presuming there is a 50% that a module is destroyed, this means your average hulk kill will yield 3 million ISK - probably less money than the cost of insuring + fitting the suicide gank cruisers. However, there is a 0.0 hulk fitting that involves an officer small shield booster which is able to tank a triple BS spawn. If you can avoid destroying the officer shield booster, one of these hulks are probably worth a couple hundred million ISK. However, considering that there aren't any rats larger than a frigate in high sec and that an officer SMALL shield booster won't save you from suicide gankers, there is no reason for this fit to exist in high sec. I suspect that there are only a limited number of these hulks. I presume that the VAST majority of money comes from bribes and the rare hulk fitted with needlessly expensive modules. The hulk with ORE strip miners, IMO, deserved to die specifically because he fitted such overpriced modules on his hulk. An ORE strip is a T1 strip with an extra 2km range. Note: LESS effective than a T2 strip with the proper crystals. If I am wrong, someone please correct me. [EDIT 2:]I have no experience with T2 salvage, so I have no idea how much money you can expect from that.[/EDIT]
The Crushah Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.06.29 03:45:00 - [29] I equate Hulk ganking to playing video poker. In the short term, its a losing proposition as we lose a little bit of money for each standard fit Hulk. However, once in a while you get a 4-of-a-kind or a royal flush and you more than make up for your earlier losses. The only difference is that so far Hulk ganking has a positive expectation value.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.06.29 05:35:00 - [30] Originally by: Pandemic97731 Whatever. He said he killed a HULK(Exhumer) that had ORE strip Miners that sold for 1.5 billion. I looked it up and the strip miners section in the market has: Strip Miner I = 1.5 Million ISKs each Modulated Strip Miner II = 4 million ISKs each Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner II = 7.7 million ISKs each. So just in case you guys are speaking some form of screwed up English, and you are actually talking about the Exhumer(HULK)itself which is made by the company ORE the price for that is: 110 to 112 million ISKs each. I searched all over and there is no such creature as : ORE strip miners, unless you are referring to the actual ship itself, but as for the Strip miners themselves they are NOT as pricey as that guy tries to say they are. Based on this I believe that guy is lying to make himself seem like he mad a lot of money, when actually he made at best 9 to 15 million depending on what else he was able to salvage from the Hulk's wreck and other modules. Sounds too me like I have caught another lame, eve, liar. Not to belabor the point (well, ok, yes I am) but you're just another inept uninformed ignorant carebear that doesn't know wtf they're talking about. Yet again. I ask you, when will it stop? Looks like we've found another lame, eve, r#tard.

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