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Jack Carrigan Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order 629	Posted - 2012.05.21 17:48:00 - [31] - Quote Codie Black wrote: just been runnign a background check on you all, all of you stay in highsec. and dont have that problem, so that's easy to say, there is no problem, come to 0,0 that's where the problem is, not in highsec. You are just as stupid as I suspected you were. If you think I stay in high sec, you are not only stupid, but naive. I frequent low sec systems, and when the pay is right, null sec, and yes, I fly a cloaked ship on a regular basis, but the difference is, I'm not an AFK cloaker. As for cloaking, it is working as intended as there are means of countering it, therefore it is a balanced mechanic. Counters to cloaking: - A Standing Fleet - Drag Bubbles and drone boats in the center of them with drones deployed - Situational awareness (which of these is probably the biggest of them) Quit trying to PvE in other people's systems, quit trying to support your topic by spewing worthless facts that you pulled out of your *, quit *posting, give me your stuff, and biomass. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives."*
Kyshonuba Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 3	Posted - 2012.05.21 20:37:00 - [32] - Quote In PvP Games "Sniper_Fighting styles" always cause heated debattes on weather they are legit or not. A lot of eve players are americans, so you might remember the heated debattes in quake about snipers ..... players chose a dark "sniper-corner" for their avatars and stayed hidden (cloaked) for most of the time, until some other player came along. Well, emotions went that high, that suggestions came up like " Everybody who stands still and doesnt move has to autoexplode after 5 minutes" ..... hilarious Those events took place in the year of 1997/1998. Its an age-old PvP problem and nobody should hope for a perfect solution. By the way the CSM touched that problem at 1h.50min town meeting 19.05 on eve radio. CSM meeting 19.05
Jack Carrigan Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order 629	Posted - 2012.05.21 20:53:00 - [33] - Quote Seriously, I think this thread should be locked for lack of content or intelligence on the part of the OP. Either that, or an all out trolling/flaming war is probably going to start. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives."
Stigman Zuwadza Repercussus RAZOR Alliance 19	Posted - 2012.05.21 23:38:00 - [34] - Quote . CCP: Cloak Hunters --- CSM: Cautiously positive. CSM Summit Dec 2011 - Minutes (see page 22).
Kyshonuba Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 3	Posted - 2012.05.22 01:59:00 - [35] - Quote Stigman Zuwadza wrote: CSM Summit Dec 2011 - Minutes (see page 22) PAGE 22 "Cloak Hunters: CCP brought up the possibility of a future cloak-hunting ship or mechanic as a hypothetical; this was described as GÇÿmore like finding a submarine than pulling a blanket offGÇÖ a cloaked ship. The CSM was cautiously positive about the idea of a cloak-hunting vessel of some kind." .... interesting. But although CCP is redefining the roles of of some lesser used ships atm i never heard of such ships in that context. A consequence of the technical problems, described in CSM townhall meeting 19.5 ?
Celeste Benal University of Caille Gallente Federation 24	Posted - 2012.05.22 03:49:00 - [36] - Quote Not supported. Imagine a cloaked bomber fleet waiting to drop bombs on an enemy fleet; a legitimate tactic and certainly not AFK. Suddenly player 33 in fleet gets hit by the RNG decloak. Every bomber within 2000m of this one decloaks, and then every bomber with 2000m of those bombers decloaks until, in a beautiful cascade of decloaking, every bomber in the fleet is visible. Also, every afk cloaker gets the same once per 24 hour decloak that you get. Its called down time. Yeah. No.
Stigman Zuwadza Repercussus RAZOR Alliance 19	Posted - 2012.05.22 03:55:00 - [37] - Quote Kyshonuba wrote: ...the technical problems, described in CSM townhall meeting 19.5 ? Just finished listening to it, well worth the listen. Was actually good to hear about this aspect and it made me chuckle a little that the panel was split on the whole matter, as is the community it seems. Fly safe. o7 CCP: Cloak Hunters --- CSM: Cautiously positive. CSM Summit Dec 2011 - Minutes (see page 22).
Stralow Die rot-weiss-roten Piloten Bruderschaft der Pilger 8	Posted - 2012.05.22 10:10:00 - [38] - Quote Simi Kusoni wrote: And btw, my first post was not directed at you, it was directed at the OP. Just in case you misunderstood, your English is perfectly legible. Ah okay. Than I'm sorry. I was confused because of your two replies and i was quoted in one of them i say we take off and nuke the whole site from orbit. it's the only way to be sure
Kyshonuba Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 3	Posted - 2012.05.22 16:26:00 - [39] - Quote Celeste Benal wrote: Not supported. Imagine a cloaked bomber fleet waiting to drop bombs on an enemy fleet; a legitimate tactic and certainly not AFK. Suddenly player 33 in fleet gets hit by the RNG decloak. Every bomber within 2000m of this one decloaks, and then every bomber with 2000m of those bombers decloaks until, in a beautiful cascade of decloaking, every bomber in the fleet is visible. Also, every afk cloaker gets the same once per 24 hour decloak that you get. Its called down time. Yeah. No. 1.Will a possible decloaking-mechanism work that fast, that a stealth-bomber fleet in waiting position will get in danger of being exposed in 5 minutes ?..... possible bad 2.Will a possible decloaking-mechanism work that fast, that a stealth-bomber fleet in waiting position will get in danger of being exposed in 20 minutes ?..... possible not so bad (because the FC isnt working as intended )
Quade Warren Urban Mining Corp Rising Phoenix Alliance 31	Posted - 2012.05.22 18:25:00 - [40] - Quote Simi Kusoni wrote: Stralow wrote: As a WH resident i'd say no These kind of cloaking threads are all kind of awful... everytime... there is nothing broken. This is off topic, but seeing as this topic isn't going anywhere im going to post anyway, do you know what I found out the other day? Bots can see local in wormholes. Apparently local isn't really "removed" in wormholes, the local list is still sent to the client its just hidden in the GUI. Now THAT is something that needs fixing. You're kiddin' me, right? I sincerely hope CCP didn't give the client the choice of what the player can see or can't see when it comes to the GUI in wormhole space. If this is true, you are damned right it needs fixing.

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