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Larkonis Trassler
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Posted - 2009.07.22 18:32:00 -
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With the introduction of the new improved navy cruisers the Pirate faction cruisers are looking more terrible than ever. I'll flag this up at the next meeting.
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Deej Montana
Outbound Flight
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Posted - 2009.07.22 18:52:00 -
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Absolutely, totally supported and thanks for taking up the banner and running with it Larkonis. The faction ships are way too cool an idea to let languish like this. |
Larkonis Trassler
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Posted - 2009.07.22 19:21:00 -
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Basically at the moment it's only the Pirate Faction ships that need looking at. The Navy varients are all pretty solid. But sub BS size all the Pirate ships (apart from Sanshas) have anaemic fitting and **** slot layouts. I'll be pushing for these to be looked at.
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Ephemeron
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.22 19:22:00 -
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I got the impression that CCP are already aware of this problem. The only faction ship that is clearly superior to everything else is the Nightmare - which was actually modified a long time ago from its original crappy version.
The main problem I see is that CCP have a mental block again boosting stuff simply for the sake of improving things. They need to feel like they are nerfing something to act. One of the devs said something along these lines: that every nerf is a boost to something else and every boost is a nerf to something else. We need to help them by phrasing our ideas in a way that make it clear what they will be nerfing. Once devs get a good sense of how boosting faction ships is a worthy sacrifice to achieve some terrible nerfs in other parts of the game, they will be moved into action
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Manfred Rickenbocker
Professors On Steriods
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.07.22 21:49:00 -
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Mmmmm... delicious EOM blue battleships.
Also, there are no Caldari/Minmatar and Gallente/Amarr hybrid ships. Id think the Caldari/Minmatar ones would be focused on shield tanking, while Gallente/Amarr would have armor tanking bonii. Just a thought...
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Larkonis Trassler
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Posted - 2009.07.23 01:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Manfred Rickenbocker
Mmmmm... delicious EOM blue battleships.
Also, there are no Caldari/Minmatar and Gallente/Amarr hybrid ships. Id think the Caldari/Minmatar ones would be focused on shield tanking, while Gallente/Amarr would have armor tanking bonii. Just a thought...
Cool, we just need some new pirate factions, new NPC 0.0 space, new missions, new agents and new pirate implant sets etc etc to go with them
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.07.23 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Manfred Rickenbocker
Mmmmm... delicious EOM blue battleships.
Now now, let's just focus on updating the old pirate ships first. Then we can has new sweet looking Thukker Rifters from GW!
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Zastrow J
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Posted - 2009.07.23 07:35:00 -
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they don't have to be awesome or even comparable/better than their t2 counterparts, but yea they're definitely too expensive for what you get
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Gaven Darklighter
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Posted - 2009.07.24 04:32:00 -
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in all honesty, I'd like to keep them as relative collectors items. TBH, I think the main problem is the cruisers being underpowered. They don't have the extra push you would want from a faction ship. If anything give them a buff, don't seed more. I like the idea of having the prized ship sort of thing. |
mazzilliu
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Posted - 2009.07.24 12:56:00 -
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MAZZILLIU 2009. CHANGE I CAN IMPOSE ON YOU. |
Karl Luckner
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Posted - 2009.07.24 17:04:00 -
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A slight update of the faction ships couldn't hurt.
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Kytanos Termek
Darkstorm Command
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.07.31 16:11:00 -
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AtheistOfDoom
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.07.31 19:10:00 -
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You're doing the bonuses wrong, it's role bonus + racial bonus 1 + racial bonus 2. Having cruiser(s) 5 for a requirement is also a bit steep so that really shouldn't change.
Otherwise I support a good change to the other faction ships.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.31 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 31/07/2009 19:36:00
Keep in mind that CSM 1 already brought it up and CCP kinda said "Nah we don't want to!"
The reason they gave was that they believe Faction ships fill a niche and they shouldn't waste resources on balancing them.
The argument you can use against them is that they released T3 modular ships, which are even more niche due to their pricetag than faction ships, and are even harder to balance.
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Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
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Posted - 2009.08.26 22:52:00 -
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Well, I still really want this, so bump it is.
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