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Gumpy Nighthawk Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 12:13:00 - [31] Originally by: MAXSuicide U know something is wrong with Eve when u have RAZOR talking as if theyre invincible....(booo..i just trolled..grumpy nighthawk to appear in 3..2..1..) /me hands Max a pair of glasses, i already appeared 5 posts above you and your troll is not worthy of me posting...oh wait, damn.... Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Navigator
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 12:26:00 - [32] Edited by: Fred0 on 30/06/2009 12:26:52 Originally by: MAXSuicide U know something is wrong with Eve when u have RAZOR talking as if theyre invincible....(booo..i just trolled..grumpy nighthawk to appear in 3..2..1..) We've always been better than you Max. ;) We also know our history while you seem to just pop up every second year and say something about how it used to be, that little something is quite frequently wrong. That I would assume is because you've never having been in any leadership position in any relevant spaceholding alliance. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Serotta Ortot Minmatar Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.30 12:36:00 - [33] Originally by: MAXSuicide U know something is wrong with Eve when u have RAZOR talking as if theyre invincible....(booo..i just trolled..grumpy nighthawk to appear in 3..2..1..) Still camping stations in low sec where you can redock? Rooks & Kings ftw...say hi to Jackaryass for me
Frances Farmer Caldari NoobFleet	Posted - 2009.06.30 13:48:00 - [34] Originally by: Phreeze It was a great fight, even numbers 350 vs 130 is the NC idea of even numbers .
Phreeze Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 14:26:00 - [35] Originally by: Frances Farmer Originally by: Phreeze It was a great fight, even numbers 350 vs 130 is the NC idea of even numbers . It was even during the initial drop, and then when people started shouting CAP FIGHT in their corp chats, a rush of scrubs came to join the fight. :napfest:
Captain Irregardless Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.06.30 14:37:00 - [36] Edited by: Captain Irregardless on 30/06/2009 14:37:33 Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose. Razor was banging its head on the sov 4's in Delve long after the Solar crew had stopped showing up, so if you're going to talk about persistence, willpower, and the ability to "field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses" I don't think Solar has anything close to the same track record.
Frances Farmer Caldari NoobFleet	Posted - 2009.06.30 14:45:00 - [37] Edited by: Frances Farmer on 30/06/2009 14:45:43 Originally by: Phreeze It was even during the initial drop, and then when people started shouting CAP FIGHT in their corp chats, a rush of scrubs came to join the fight. There's no logic in your post, you brought 200+ people at half fight and then claimed on the forum that you had "even numbers". You out-numbered them and held the field, there's nothing wrong in admitting that, ffs. .
Aaron Mirrorsaver Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.06.30 14:46:00 - [38] Originally by: Cerlestes Edited by: Cerlestes on 30/06/2009 10:56:57 Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose. It was the NC, back in the MAX Campaign, who fielded 200 caps and lost like 100 to node crashes. They were replaced in a day. The next day we destroyed most of BoB's capitals and lost almost the same amount. They were replaced in a day. Some days later we destroyed the rest of their caps, again like 40-50 of ours got killed. They, also, were replaced in a day. Don't except us to run out of capitals lets add some facts to your math. when you've got 100 capitals divided among 20-30 alliances...average lost per alliance = 2. yeah, so replacing them the next day is easy. Even without the alliance help. ------ RECON is recruiting
Phreeze Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 14:48:00 - [39] A little life lesson about fighting Razor: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
Aaron Mirrorsaver Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.06.30 14:48:00 - [40] Originally by: Captain Irregardless Edited by: Captain Irregardless on 30/06/2009 14:37:33 Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose. Razor was banging its head on the sov 4's in Delve long after the Solar crew had stopped showing up, so if you're going to talk about persistence, willpower, and the ability to "field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses" I don't think Solar has anything close to the same track record. just took the more stupid razor longer to realise it was impossible. ------ RECON is recruiting

Phreeze Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 14:50:00 - [41] Aaron is mad because his corp has roamed from alliance to alliance and accomplished nothing Try Aggression. next, I hear they will take anybody.
Reprimander Caldari Failswarm	Posted - 2009.06.30 14:55:00 - [42] Originally by: Captain Irregardless Edited by: Captain Irregardless on 30/06/2009 14:37:33 Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose. Razor was banging its head on the sov 4's in Delve long after the Solar crew had stopped showing up, so if you're going to talk about persistence, willpower, and the ability to "field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses" I don't think Solar has anything close to the same track record. Your alliance history leads me to believe you are not the neutral observer you would like us to believe. RZR are very, very good at getting and maintaining as many blues as is required to win any given fight without ever taking any real risks. That is a quality in itself.
Reprimander Caldari Failswarm	Posted - 2009.06.30 14:57:00 - [43] Originally by: Phreeze A little life lesson about fighting Razor: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose. I'm waiting for the next thrilling installment of 'How to be an Elite PvP Alliance, like RAZOR'... next chapter: fielding motherships in Sov 4 systems
Zimi Vlasic Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.30 15:10:00 - [44] CAOD: the only place where it's cool for one side to hotdrop with twice as many caps, but as soon as the other side does it in return they're dirty blobbers ------------------ Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Graalum Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 15:16:00 - [45] Originally by: Zimi Vlasic CAOD: the only place where it's cool for one side to hotdrop with twice as many caps, but as soon as the other side does it in return they're dirty blobbers noone is saying thats bad, just don't play it off as even numbers, and then play it off as an epic win when you lose just as many caps. unless you are trolling, in which case fine by me
Graalum Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 15:17:00 - [46] Originally by: Centauris Originally by: dastommy79 Originally by: Cerlestes Edited by: Cerlestes on 30/06/2009 10:56:57 Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose. It was the NC, back in the MAX Campaign, who fielded 200 caps and lost like 100 to node crashes. They were replaced in a day. The next day we destroyed most of BoB's capitals and lost almost the same amount. They were replaced in a day. Some days later we destroyed the rest of their caps, again like 40-50 of ours got killed. They, also, were replaced in a day. Don't except us to run out of capitals with a nap list that large, it should be almost impossible for you to run out of reserves........ So says he who lives in omnist ok tenal
Nlewis Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.06.30 15:25:00 - [47] waaaaa naptrain waaaaaa blobs waaaa
Judge Ment Caldari Zero Gravity Inc	Posted - 2009.06.30 15:28:00 - [48] All this attention for a broke ass station, with broke ass system that doesn't make any income. Only thing that Geminate may offer is Moon mining which could bring in 15billion month, for a alliance that can hold the entire Geminate system. Only thing I can add is geminate: attracks everyone. You get traffic from 0.0 heading towards Jita, Minmatar Space or drone lands. Pluss BWF Is wonderful place for Pirates to make isk off "banking on fat alliance traffic". I honestly think W.I. is banking on Drone pooh and the moon mining, NC Only backing them up so they can continue to make Titans and Motherships for them! I believe RA always been interested ------------------------------------- We judge others by actions We judge ourselves by intentions.
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 15:44:00 - [49] Originally by: Reprimander Originally by: Phreeze A little life lesson about fighting Razor: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose. I'm waiting for the next thrilling installment of 'How to be an Elite PvP Alliance, like RAZOR'... next chapter: fielding motherships in Sov 4 systems Razor has never claimed to be an 'elite' PvP alliance, we just do our stuff as we know how. We have had our share of bloody noses but have never given up. As for the whole naptrain argument, it's a moot one, it's one the whole of eve has to face with the emergence of coalitions. Correct me if im wrong but wasn't this style of play actually started by the five after their success against JQA and the mad mad VV-VCR battles when they went up against the old Xetic? Max was started by the GBC moving 350 caps and 500+ support into lower Dek... how do you think we should have gone about dealing with that huh?
IceGoon Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.06.30 15:53:00 - [50] Originally by: Heptameron As for the whole naptrain argument, it's a moot one, it's one the whole of eve has to face with the emergence of coalitions. Correct me if im wrong but wasn't this style of play actually started by the five after their success against JQA and the mad mad VV-VCR battles when they went up against the old Xetic? Max was started by the GBC moving 350 caps and 500+ support into lower Dek... how do you think we should have gone about dealing with that huh? An honor tanked dread fleet.

Graalum Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 16:15:00 - [51] Edited by: Graalum on 30/06/2009 16:14:57 Originally by: IceGoon Originally by: Heptameron As for the whole naptrain argument, it's a moot one, it's one the whole of eve has to face with the emergence of coalitions. Correct me if im wrong but wasn't this style of play actually started by the five after their success against JQA and the mad mad VV-VCR battles when they went up against the old Xetic? Max was started by the GBC moving 350 caps and 500+ support into lower Dek... how do you think we should have gone about dealing with that huh? An honour tanked dread fleet. i, too, would have used this method
Mia Archer Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 16:23:00 - [52] Honor Tank Best Tank
Vote VikLuk Minmatar Vik Luk for CSM GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.06.30 16:58:00 - [53] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver lets add some facts to your math. when you've got 100 capitals divided among 20-30 alliances...average lost per alliance = 2. yeah, so replacing them the next day is easy. Even without the alliance help. 20-30 alliances ? First point: If you are right, then it would be 3-5. But as you seem to be not really firm in history stuff you should know from looking at the killboards that around 95% of the cap losses was splitted between the 3-4 Major Alliances. This sums it up to 20-30 capitals per alliance. Now considering that the average corpnumer in those alliances that lost dreads is 4-5 you could think that 4-6 per corp. Thats around 8B - 12B loss per corp. And I am pretty sure that your corp and not even your alliance :Minor Threat: has this to give away for free since you share a single prom moon between 2 alliances whereever you live down south ( Bobby Atlas treats you very good )
Commander Solo Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.06.30 17:28:00 - [54] People underestimating Russians ITT
Graalum Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 17:46:00 - [55] Originally by: Vote VikLuk Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver lets add some facts to your math. when you've got 100 capitals divided among 20-30 alliances...average lost per alliance = 2. yeah, so replacing them the next day is easy. Even without the alliance help. 20-30 alliances ? First point: If you are right, then it would be 3-5. But as you seem to be not really firm in history stuff you should know from looking at the killboards that around 95% of the cap losses was splitted between the 3-4 Major Alliances. This sums it up to 20-30 capitals per alliance. Now considering that the average corpnumer in those alliances that lost dreads is 4-5 you could think that 4-6 per corp. Thats around 8B - 12B loss per corp. And I am pretty sure that your corp and not even your alliance :Minor Threat: has this to give away for free since you share a single prom moon between 2 alliances whereever you live down south ( Bobby Atlas treats you very good ) you, sir, are pretty terrible at math
Mia Archer Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 17:54:00 - [56] Ironic statement coming from the side who routinely fails at basic counting
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 17:55:00 - [57] Originally by: Graalum you, sir, are pretty terrible at math Not really, he's accurate and you are wrong. :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Orree Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.06.30 18:46:00 - [58] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver Originally by: Cerlestes Edited by: Cerlestes on 30/06/2009 10:56:57 Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose. It was the NC, back in the MAX Campaign, who fielded 200 caps and lost like 100 to node crashes. They were replaced in a day. The next day we destroyed most of BoB's capitals and lost almost the same amount. They were replaced in a day. Some days later we destroyed the rest of their caps, again like 40-50 of ours got killed. They, also, were replaced in a day. Don't except us to run out of capitals lets add some facts to your math. when you've got 100 capitals divided among 20-30 alliances...average lost per alliance = 2. yeah, so replacing them the next day is easy. Even without the alliance help. Except that it was never "20-30 alliances." You're the one who needs the math help, apparently. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Bobbeh Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.30 19:38:00 - [59] Edited by: Bobbeh on 30/06/2009 19:38:06 For Clarifications Sake could you Name these 20-30 NC Entities for me i seem to be missing Several off the standings list.
Hexman Minmatar Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.30 20:29:00 - [60] Originally by: Reprimander I'm waiting for the next thrilling installment of 'How to be an Elite PvP Alliance, like RAZOR'... next chapter: fielding motherships in Sov 4 systems [/quote Actually we are terrible (almost as bad as goons, but not quite). But like Rocky Balboa was a terrible boxer, he had a really really hard head and could punch really really hard.



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