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Phreeze
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: Phreeze on 30/06/2009 00:18:18 Just starting the hate before you do.
Solar fleet reinforced k25, a station system in geminate yesterday. The jammer was never repped, and they began destroying Wildly Inapropriate pos there today.
NC jumped a support fleet in, and Solar Fleet warped their capitals to the gate. NC Cap fleet hotdropped.
It was a great fight, even numbers, and at one point 2 Solar Fleet titans doomsdayed on grid with our caps, in a very gutsy play.
NC held the field, and the rest of WI. pos were saved. Solar managed to deploy 1 pos, which was immediately reinforced and will exit on wednesday.
Good fight, hopefully more to come.
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Saba Quiestador
Minmatar Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 00:44:00 -
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200-ish caps down in one day.
Cap builders are going to be mighty happy.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 00:46:00 -
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Trit farmers even more so.
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Capitan Tyler
Minmatar Legion Terrenal
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Posted - 2009.06.30 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Trit farmers even more so.
LOL
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dastommy79
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 01:50:00 -
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A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
Former SmashKill Coaliton Leader Stop banning me
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Lord Vega
Gallente TAU CETI CENTER
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Posted - 2009.06.30 01:53:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Vega on 30/06/2009 01:53:27
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
agree, if you want to survive razor you are gonna have to nap the rest of eve too !
edit: oh wait, you did :(
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MrRx7
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Vega Edited by: Lord Vega on 30/06/2009 01:53:27
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
agree, if you want to survive razor you are gonna have to nap the rest of eve too !
edit: oh wait, you did :(
You know, You can only beat a dead horse so many times until you have nothing left but a bloody pile of horse chunks.... The nap joke that is what your doing.
Go away thanks 
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Phreeze
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
Mmm they warped a capfleet to zero on a gate.
Solar fleet has consistently performed like trash, and aren't a serious threat to anyone except themselves.
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Hyrieus
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 02:06:00 -
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Sorry Dasty you're about 2 years too late picking Russians, we already got all the good, scary ones.
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Kesper North
Caldari Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.06.30 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Phreeze Mmm they warped a capfleet to zero on a gate.
Solar fleet has consistently performed like trash, and aren't a serious threat to anyone except themselves.
QFT. As one of my corpmates said after the battle today, "if it weren't for Titans these guys would be in empire in a week."
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Graalum
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Hyrieus Sorry Dasty you're about 2 years too late picking Russians, we already got all the good, scary ones.
lol wat?
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saangocaste
Gallente Australian Mining and industry Corp Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2009.06.30 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kesper North
Originally by: Phreeze Mmm they warped a capfleet to zero on a gate.
Solar fleet has consistently performed like trash, and aren't a serious threat to anyone except themselves.
QFT. As one of my corpmates said after the battle today, "if it weren't for Titans these guys would be in empire in a week."
Same could be said about your naplist.
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Phreeze
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: saangocaste
Originally by: Kesper North
Originally by: Phreeze Mmm they warped a capfleet to zero on a gate.
Solar fleet has consistently performed like trash, and aren't a serious threat to anyone except themselves.
QFT. As one of my corpmates said after the battle today, "if it weren't for Titans these guys would be in empire in a week."
Same could be said about your naplist.
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Bobbeh
Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 04:32:00 -
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IT was fun day today i thank all the reds for showing up. We woulda killed the titans but bubbler warped to wrong cyno unforunately.
Hes since been shot
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Etien Aldragoran
Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: Phreeze
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
Mmm they warped a capfleet to zero on a gate.
Solar fleet has consistently performed like trash, and aren't a serious threat to anyone except themselves.
I dont know what you're talking about, but we've warped our carriers to a gate many times. Oh wait, nevermind we're horrible at this game.
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Mouse Mendez
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kesper North
Originally by: Phreeze Mmm they warped a capfleet to zero on a gate.
Solar fleet has consistently performed like trash, and aren't a serious threat to anyone except themselves.
QFT. As one of my corpmates said after the battle today, "if it weren't for Titans these guys would be in empire in a week."
Ya, go ahead. Under-estimate MACTEP. Gun-for-gun you gents are way outmatched. So, you'll need your whole blob.
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Mia Archer
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: saangocaste
Originally by: Kesper North
Originally by: Phreeze Mmm they warped a capfleet to zero on a gate.
Solar fleet has consistently performed like trash, and aren't a serious threat to anyone except themselves.
QFT. As one of my corpmates said after the battle today, "if it weren't for Titans these guys would be in empire in a week."
Same could be said about your naplist.
Incorrect, for us to rely on our titans to keep us out of Empire, we would have to have titans that actually log on first ____________________________________________
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Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
Neither will we. Just as them we have a history of keeping it up way past most others. This must be bitter for NYNC though. Robbed blind a couple of times by Mactep they are now again forced to work together  --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.30 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
Neither will we. Just as them we have a history of keeping it up way past most others. This must be bitter for NYNC though. Robbed blind a couple of times by Mactep they are now again forced to work together 
I see what you did there, and it wasn't very subtle. :) --- I smack just for myself.
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De Vito
Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 09:30:00 -
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gf 
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Cerlestes
Caldari Jagdkommando RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 10:55:00 -
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Edited by: Cerlestes on 30/06/2009 10:56:57
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
It was the NC, back in the MAX Campaign, who fielded 200 caps and lost like 100 to node crashes. They were replaced in a day. The next day we destroyed most of BoB's capitals and lost almost the same amount. They were replaced in a day. Some days later we destroyed the rest of their caps, again like 40-50 of ours got killed. They, also, were replaced in a day.
Don't except us to run out of capitals 
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Stretchmeat Crotchquake
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 11:07:00 -
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Have you replaced your mothership fleet yet?
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Stretchmeat Crotchquake Have you replaced your mothership fleet yet?
We are still in the proces of replacing our e-honor over those :facepalm: losses Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Navigator |

c0rn1
Minmatar Seraphin Technologies KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.06.30 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Cerlestes
It was the NC, back in the MAX Campaign, who fielded 200 caps and lost like 100 to node crashes. They were replaced in a day. The next day we destroyed most of BoB's capitals and lost almost the same amount. They were replaced in a day. Some days later we destroyed the rest of their caps, again like 40-50 of ours got killed. They, also, were replaced in a day.
Don't except us to run out of capitals 
I insist: The NC have mastered the Art of Attrition warfare. Your FCs should be given the titel "Dignified Pupil of Zapp Brannigan" ;p
cheers
c0rn1 x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
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dastommy79
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cerlestes Edited by: Cerlestes on 30/06/2009 10:56:57
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
It was the NC, back in the MAX Campaign, who fielded 200 caps and lost like 100 to node crashes. They were replaced in a day. The next day we destroyed most of BoB's capitals and lost almost the same amount. They were replaced in a day. Some days later we destroyed the rest of their caps, again like 40-50 of ours got killed. They, also, were replaced in a day.
Don't except us to run out of capitals 
with a nap list that large, it should be almost impossible for you to run out of reserves........
Former SmashKill Coaliton Leader Stop banning me
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Yannak
Minmatar 11th Hussars
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Posted - 2009.06.30 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79 with a nap list that large, it should be almost impossible for you to run out of reserves........
As you seem to write a lot about the NC's large NAP list, could you please publish your Alliances 'slimline' NAP list so we can be sure what kind of numbers people should aim for?
Yeah, thought not.
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Sun Ra
Minmatar Culture Breach
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Posted - 2009.06.30 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cerlestes Edited by: Cerlestes on 30/06/2009 10:56:57
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
It was the NC, back in the MAX Campaign, who fielded 200 caps and lost like 100 to node crashes. They were replaced in a day. The next day we destroyed most of BoB's capitals and lost almost the same amount. They were replaced in a day. Some days later we destroyed the rest of their caps, again like 40-50 of ours got killed. They, also, were replaced in a day.
Don't except us to run out of capitals 
Thus this shows the problem with moon goo, just way too much isk for little effort in eve now days
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MAXSuicide
Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.06.30 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 30/06/2009 12:04:46 Edited by: MAXSuicide on 30/06/2009 12:04:43
Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Cerlestes Edited by: Cerlestes on 30/06/2009 10:56:57
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
It was the NC, back in the MAX Campaign, who fielded 200 caps and lost like 100 to node crashes. They were replaced in a day. The next day we destroyed most of BoB's capitals and lost almost the same amount. They were replaced in a day. Some days later we destroyed the rest of their caps, again like 40-50 of ours got killed. They, also, were replaced in a day.
Don't except us to run out of capitals 
Thus this shows the problem with moon goo, just way too much isk for little effort in eve now days
bring back strip mining belts tbfh.
U know something is wrong with Eve when u have RAZOR talking as if theyre invincible....(booo..i just trolled..grumpy nighthawk to appear in 3..2..1..)
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Celestrias
Gallente Mid Knights Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 12:10:00 -
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Beat grumpy.
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Centauris
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79
Originally by: Cerlestes Edited by: Cerlestes on 30/06/2009 10:56:57
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
It was the NC, back in the MAX Campaign, who fielded 200 caps and lost like 100 to node crashes. They were replaced in a day. The next day we destroyed most of BoB's capitals and lost almost the same amount. They were replaced in a day. Some days later we destroyed the rest of their caps, again like 40-50 of ours got killed. They, also, were replaced in a day.
Don't except us to run out of capitals 
with a nap list that large, it should be almost impossible for you to run out of reserves........
So says he who lives in omnist
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide
U know something is wrong with Eve when u have RAZOR talking as if theyre invincible....(booo..i just trolled..grumpy nighthawk to appear in 3..2..1..)
/me hands Max a pair of glasses, i already appeared 5 posts above you and your troll is not worthy of me posting...oh wait, damn.... Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Navigator |

Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 12:26:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 30/06/2009 12:26:52
Originally by: MAXSuicide U know something is wrong with Eve when u have RAZOR talking as if theyre invincible....(booo..i just trolled..grumpy nighthawk to appear in 3..2..1..)
We've always been better than you Max. ;) We also know our history while you seem to just pop up every second year and say something about how it used to be, that little something is quite frequently wrong. That I would assume is because you've never having been in any leadership position in any relevant spaceholding alliance. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Serotta Ortot
Minmatar Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide U know something is wrong with Eve when u have RAZOR talking as if theyre invincible....(booo..i just trolled..grumpy nighthawk to appear in 3..2..1..)
Still camping stations in low sec where you can redock? Rooks & Kings ftw...say hi to Jackaryass for me 
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Frances Farmer
Caldari NoobFleet
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Posted - 2009.06.30 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Phreeze It was a great fight, even numbers
350 vs 130 is the NC idea of even numbers
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Phreeze
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Frances Farmer
Originally by: Phreeze It was a great fight, even numbers
350 vs 130 is the NC idea of even numbers
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It was even during the initial drop, and then when people started shouting CAP FIGHT in their corp chats, a rush of scrubs came to join the fight.
:napfest:
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Captain Irregardless
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Irregardless on 30/06/2009 14:37:33
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
Razor was banging its head on the sov 4's in Delve long after the Solar crew had stopped showing up, so if you're going to talk about persistence, willpower, and the ability to "field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses" I don't think Solar has anything close to the same track record.
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Frances Farmer
Caldari NoobFleet
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Frances Farmer on 30/06/2009 14:45:43
Originally by: Phreeze It was even during the initial drop, and then when people started shouting CAP FIGHT in their corp chats, a rush of scrubs came to join the fight.
There's no logic in your post, you brought 200+ people at half fight and then claimed on the forum that you had "even numbers".
You out-numbered them and held the field, there's nothing wrong in admitting that, ffs.
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Cerlestes Edited by: Cerlestes on 30/06/2009 10:56:57
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
It was the NC, back in the MAX Campaign, who fielded 200 caps and lost like 100 to node crashes. They were replaced in a day. The next day we destroyed most of BoB's capitals and lost almost the same amount. They were replaced in a day. Some days later we destroyed the rest of their caps, again like 40-50 of ours got killed. They, also, were replaced in a day.
Don't except us to run out of capitals 
lets add some facts to your math.
when you've got 100 capitals divided among 20-30 alliances...average lost per alliance = 2.
yeah, so replacing them the next day is easy. Even without the alliance help. ------
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Phreeze
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:48:00 -
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A little life lesson about fighting Razor: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Irregardless Edited by: Captain Irregardless on 30/06/2009 14:37:33
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
Razor was banging its head on the sov 4's in Delve long after the Solar crew had stopped showing up, so if you're going to talk about persistence, willpower, and the ability to "field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses" I don't think Solar has anything close to the same track record.
just took the more stupid razor longer to realise it was impossible. ------
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Phreeze
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:50:00 -
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Aaron is mad because his corp has roamed from alliance to alliance and accomplished nothing 
Try Aggression. next, I hear they will take anybody.
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Reprimander
Caldari Failswarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Irregardless Edited by: Captain Irregardless on 30/06/2009 14:37:33
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
Razor was banging its head on the sov 4's in Delve long after the Solar crew had stopped showing up, so if you're going to talk about persistence, willpower, and the ability to "field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses" I don't think Solar has anything close to the same track record.
Your alliance history leads me to believe you are not the neutral observer you would like us to believe.
RZR are very, very good at getting and maintaining as many blues as is required to win any given fight without ever taking any real risks. That is a quality in itself.
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Reprimander
Caldari Failswarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Phreeze A little life lesson about fighting Razor: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
I'm waiting for the next thrilling installment of 'How to be an Elite PvP Alliance, like RAZOR'... next chapter: fielding motherships in Sov 4 systems
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Zimi Vlasic
Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:10:00 -
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CAOD: the only place where it's cool for one side to hotdrop with twice as many caps, but as soon as the other side does it in return they're dirty blobbers ------------------ Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer |

Graalum
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic CAOD: the only place where it's cool for one side to hotdrop with twice as many caps, but as soon as the other side does it in return they're dirty blobbers
noone is saying thats bad, just don't play it off as even numbers, and then play it off as an epic win when you lose just as many caps. unless you are trolling, in which case fine by me
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Graalum
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Centauris
Originally by: dastommy79
Originally by: Cerlestes Edited by: Cerlestes on 30/06/2009 10:56:57
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
It was the NC, back in the MAX Campaign, who fielded 200 caps and lost like 100 to node crashes. They were replaced in a day. The next day we destroyed most of BoB's capitals and lost almost the same amount. They were replaced in a day. Some days later we destroyed the rest of their caps, again like 40-50 of ours got killed. They, also, were replaced in a day.
Don't except us to run out of capitals 
with a nap list that large, it should be almost impossible for you to run out of reserves........
So says he who lives in omnist
ok tenal
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Nlewis
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:25:00 -
[47]
waaaaa naptrain waaaaaa blobs waaaa
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Judge Ment
Caldari Zero Gravity Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:28:00 -
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All this attention for a broke ass station, with broke ass system that doesn't make any income. Only thing that Geminate may offer is Moon mining which could bring in 15billion month, for a alliance that can hold the entire Geminate system. Only thing I can add is geminate: attracks everyone. You get traffic from 0.0 heading towards Jita, Minmatar Space or drone lands. Pluss BWF Is wonderful place for Pirates to make isk off "banking on fat alliance traffic". I honestly think W.I. is banking on Drone pooh and the moon mining, NC Only backing them up so they can continue to make Titans and Motherships for them!
I believe RA always been interested
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Heptameron
Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Reprimander
Originally by: Phreeze A little life lesson about fighting Razor: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
I'm waiting for the next thrilling installment of 'How to be an Elite PvP Alliance, like RAZOR'... next chapter: fielding motherships in Sov 4 systems
Razor has never claimed to be an 'elite' PvP alliance, we just do our stuff as we know how. We have had our share of bloody noses but have never given up.
As for the whole naptrain argument, it's a moot one, it's one the whole of eve has to face with the emergence of coalitions. Correct me if im wrong but wasn't this style of play actually started by the five after their success against JQA and the mad mad VV-VCR battles when they went up against the old Xetic? Max was started by the GBC moving 350 caps and 500+ support into lower Dek... how do you think we should have gone about dealing with that huh?
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IceGoon
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Heptameron
As for the whole naptrain argument, it's a moot one, it's one the whole of eve has to face with the emergence of coalitions. Correct me if im wrong but wasn't this style of play actually started by the five after their success against JQA and the mad mad VV-VCR battles when they went up against the old Xetic? Max was started by the GBC moving 350 caps and 500+ support into lower Dek... how do you think we should have gone about dealing with that huh?
An honor tanked dread fleet.
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Graalum
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Graalum on 30/06/2009 16:14:57
Originally by: IceGoon
Originally by: Heptameron
As for the whole naptrain argument, it's a moot one, it's one the whole of eve has to face with the emergence of coalitions. Correct me if im wrong but wasn't this style of play actually started by the five after their success against JQA and the mad mad VV-VCR battles when they went up against the old Xetic? Max was started by the GBC moving 350 caps and 500+ support into lower Dek... how do you think we should have gone about dealing with that huh?
An honour tanked dread fleet.
i, too, would have used this method
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Mia Archer
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 16:23:00 -
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Honor Tank Best Tank
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Vote VikLuk
Minmatar Vik Luk for CSM GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver
lets add some facts to your math.
when you've got 100 capitals divided among 20-30 alliances...average lost per alliance = 2.
yeah, so replacing them the next day is easy. Even without the alliance help.
20-30 alliances ?
First point: If you are right, then it would be 3-5. But as you seem to be not really firm in history stuff you should know from looking at the killboards that around 95% of the cap losses was splitted between the 3-4 Major Alliances. This sums it up to 20-30 capitals per alliance. Now considering that the average corpnumer in those alliances that lost dreads is 4-5 you could think that 4-6 per corp. Thats around 8B - 12B loss per corp. And I am pretty sure that your corp and not even your alliance :Minor Threat: has this to give away for free since you share a single prom moon between 2 alliances whereever you live down south ( Bobby Atlas treats you very good )
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Commander Solo
Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 17:28:00 -
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People underestimating Russians ITT
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Graalum
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Vote VikLuk
Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver
lets add some facts to your math.
when you've got 100 capitals divided among 20-30 alliances...average lost per alliance = 2.
yeah, so replacing them the next day is easy. Even without the alliance help.
20-30 alliances ?
First point: If you are right, then it would be 3-5. But as you seem to be not really firm in history stuff you should know from looking at the killboards that around 95% of the cap losses was splitted between the 3-4 Major Alliances. This sums it up to 20-30 capitals per alliance. Now considering that the average corpnumer in those alliances that lost dreads is 4-5 you could think that 4-6 per corp. Thats around 8B - 12B loss per corp. And I am pretty sure that your corp and not even your alliance :Minor Threat: has this to give away for free since you share a single prom moon between 2 alliances whereever you live down south ( Bobby Atlas treats you very good )
you, sir, are pretty terrible at math
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Mia Archer
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 17:54:00 -
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Ironic statement coming from the side who routinely fails at basic counting
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Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Graalum you, sir, are pretty terrible at math
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Orree
Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2009.06.30 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver
Originally by: Cerlestes Edited by: Cerlestes on 30/06/2009 10:56:57
Originally by: dastommy79 A little life lesson about fighting solar: They wont stop. They can field large amounts of ships and take heavy losses. Eventually over time, you will lose.
It was the NC, back in the MAX Campaign, who fielded 200 caps and lost like 100 to node crashes. They were replaced in a day. The next day we destroyed most of BoB's capitals and lost almost the same amount. They were replaced in a day. Some days later we destroyed the rest of their caps, again like 40-50 of ours got killed. They, also, were replaced in a day.
Don't except us to run out of capitals 
lets add some facts to your math.
when you've got 100 capitals divided among 20-30 alliances...average lost per alliance = 2.
yeah, so replacing them the next day is easy. Even without the alliance help.
Except that it was never "20-30 alliances." You're the one who needs the math help, apparently.
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Bobbeh
Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: Bobbeh on 30/06/2009 19:38:06 For Clarifications Sake could you Name these 20-30 NC Entities for me i seem to be missing Several off the standings list.
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Hexman
Minmatar Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Reprimander I'm waiting for the next thrilling installment of 'How to be an Elite PvP Alliance, like RAZOR'... next chapter: fielding motherships in Sov 4 systems
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Actually we are terrible (almost as bad as goons, but not quite). But like Rocky Balboa was a terrible boxer, he had a really really hard head and could punch really really hard.
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Reprimander
Caldari Failswarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Hexman
Actually we are terrible (almost as bad as goons, but not quite). But like Rocky Balboa was a terrible boxer, he had a really really hard head and could punch really really hard.
I don't recall Rocky inviting 5,000 of his closest friends into the ring to win the fight for him...
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MAXSuicide
Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.06.30 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Serotta Ortot
Originally by: MAXSuicide U know something is wrong with Eve when u have RAZOR talking as if theyre invincible....(booo..i just trolled..grumpy nighthawk to appear in 3..2..1..)
Still camping stations in low sec where you can redock? Rooks & Kings ftw...say hi to Jackaryass for me 
lol... i did all the blob war stuff oh..5 years ago? seen it all, done it all (except for being in any leadership position within any alliance, as fred0 will tell u ). ship spinning in station has always been a favourite hobby of mine though tbh..
Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 30/06/2009 12:26:52
Originally by: MAXSuicide U know something is wrong with Eve when u have RAZOR talking as if theyre invincible....(booo..i just trolled..grumpy nighthawk to appear in 3..2..1..)
We've always been better than you Max. ;) We also know our history while you seem to just pop up every second year and say something about how it used to be, that little something is quite frequently wrong. That I would assume is because you've never having been in any leadership position in any relevant spaceholding alliance.
god no ur right mate. no way would i wanna have to deal with leadership stuff in this internet spaceship game. Sucks all rl away enough as it is.. But hey,i think ur actually trying to throw a subtle insult at me? I like refering to RAZOR because u guys are alright, u can roll with the jokes ♥
some say i am like the 24/7 drunk, old man u get in the corner of pubs..just doesnt shut up about the good ol' days and how society has degenerated in recent times so ur probably not that far off on that one either...
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: MAXSuicide
U know something is wrong with Eve when u have RAZOR talking as if theyre invincible....(booo..i just trolled..grumpy nighthawk to appear in 3..2..1..)
/me hands Max a pair of glasses, i already appeared 5 posts above you and your troll is not worthy of me posting...oh wait, damn....
yee... slower at responding than i thought u would be though tbh :( think im gonna CAOD stalk u so this will not happen in future.
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Sanitarium Slave
Minmatar Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.06.30 21:38:00 -
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hey guys i know this place where everything is even numbers and fair game.
Linkage
im sure you will enjoy it
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Phreeze Aaron is mad because his corp has roamed from alliance to alliance and accomplished nothing 
Try Aggression. next, I hear they will take anybody.
true, we all wanted to rename the corp nomads. (but was taken)
aggro said they'd take anyone but you 
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Phreeze
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver
Originally by: Phreeze Aaron is mad because his corp has roamed from alliance to alliance and accomplished nothing 
Try Aggression. next, I hear they will take anybody.
true, we all wanted to rename the corp nomads. (but was taken)
aggro said they'd take anyone but you 
Bummer, well they'll have to find which one of their fc's is my spy toon then 
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Graalum
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.01 05:04:00 -
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Edited by: Graalum on 01/07/2009 05:06:59
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Graalum you, sir, are pretty terrible at math
Not really, he's accurate and you are wrong. :)
really i didn't know that razor only had 4 corps 
Originally by: Mia Archer Ironic statement coming from the side who routinely fails at basic counting
*puts random words together to make a sentence*
*hits poast button*
*is Mia Archer*
did i do that right?
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webkert
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.01 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: webkert on 01/07/2009 08:26:39
Originally by: Graalum
really i didn't know that razor only had 4 corps 
You fail at reading comprehension.
Vote Vikluk wrote: "Now considering that the average corpnumer in those alliances that lost dreads is 4-5".
The number of corps, per alliance, that lost dreads in those fights, averages 4-5. Not 4, as you said, and not total number of corps, but just corps which lost dreads.
So, let's check the killboards, and we see that in the E-O fight, Razor lost caps from 5 different corps. In the Obe fight a couple days later, Razor lost a single dread.
So basically, the person you are saying is wrong is not wrong, you are just ****ing awful at reading basic English sentences.
Which is fine. Maybe English is your third language or something.
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Lira Reib
Caldari Mid Knights Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.07.01 11:36:00 -
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In actual news, we killed their tower. Their caps left before we jumped in.
Kinda wonder what they're trying to do here; they must have a lot more caps than they're attacking with, so probably it's just an attempt to distract us from tri.
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