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Allahs Warrior
Gallente
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests
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Posted - 2009.07.02 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: Allahs Warrior on 02/07/2009 12:09:21
Edited by: Allahs Warrior on 02/07/2009 12:06:03
[Sabre, 1]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Micro Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 25
150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Improved Cloaking Device II
150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
Nearly cap invincible (neuts wont stop ur MWD/tackle permanently)
Higher scan res
5 less DPS
faster
better align time
vs
[Eris, 1]
Co-Processor II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Co-Processor II
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Improved Cloaking Device II
Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
5 more DPS
worse align time
cannot fit web
cannot fit booster
slower
cant fit full rack of even small guns+rocket without a co-processor, needs 2 for ions
not cap stable
What is the "good" way to fit an eris so that it has a role that it can fulfill better than other dictors?
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Diehard Si
UK1 Zero
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2009.07.02 12:26:00 -
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You're a dictor, at the end of the day your job is to stay alive and bubble.
Guns and missiles should be irrelevant.
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TimMc
Gallente
Extradition
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Posted - 2009.07.02 12:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Diehard Si
You're a dictor, at the end of the day your job is to stay alive and bubble.
Guns and missiles should be irrelevant.
Cannot deny the eris is **** though.
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Seven Six
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Posted - 2009.07.02 13:10:00 -
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The Eris is not supposed tp be a dps monster and ur fit is useless and will die - paper thin up close? what a waste - fit 4 missile launchers and 3 75mm with spike and orbit stuff going fast, dropping bubbles - fit cap recharger and one low slot cap power relay and i think ur cap stable with mwd - i forget as i havent flown one in a while, lows 2 nano and 1 overdrive (and the cap power relay) or something close to that fit..
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Rordan D'Kherr
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.07.02 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Allahs Warrior
What is the "good" way to fit an eris so that it has a role that it can fulfill better than other dictors?
The good way is not to open a whine thread about it. The good way would be to create a fitting based on the role of a dictor, which means placing modules in this order:
1. Bubble launcher
2. MWD
3. Cloak
4. Speed mods
5. Web
6. Warp Disruptor
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1000. Weapons
Align time, DPS, boosters (omg!) and cap stability are no values that count for a dictor.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.02 13:49:00 -
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[Eris, Fleet thingie]
Co-Processor I
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
1MN MicroWarpdrive I
[empty med slot]
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Prototype Cloaking Device I
75mm Gatling Rail I, Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
It is fast, dual bubble launcher, can cloak, can killmail *****, and most important it is cheap.
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Lt Angus
Caldari
End Game.
Dead End.
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Posted - 2009.07.02 13:52:00 -
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used to be the fastest but they messed that up, guess its alot cheaper then a sabre while only being 100ms slower
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achoura
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Posted - 2009.07.02 13:55:00 -
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Cloak > bubble > everything else.
Fit a cloak, 2 bubbles, mwd + speed (shield extender for buffer) and your done. Fighting in a dictor is not your job. you cloak, bubble and get out alive, anything else is a bonus and because it's perceived as crap is half the price the other ones are.
Oh and bubble get you on alot of mails without any real danger.
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Allahs Warrior
Gallente
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests
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Posted - 2009.07.02 14:13:00 -
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Maybe in a battleship fleet you're not meant to fight but you should see what sabres with SCRAMBLERS can do to any frigate, ceptor or AF or anything.
Even w/o guns theres still no role it fills better than the sabre
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Allahs Warrior
Gallente
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests
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Posted - 2009.07.02 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Rordan D'Kherr
Align time + booster doesnt matter
Align time matters SO effing much. Do you even fly dictors 0.0? You need to be able to escape inties as you are ALWAYS primary even if you havent dropped a bubble yet.
Booster will help when you're running a MWD to run out of your bubble and you get neuted, or you're laying down the tackle on a single BS.
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demonfurbie
Minmatar
Kinky Killing Kleptomaniacs
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.07.02 14:54:00 -
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those are some expensive fits for something that get 1 volleyed by really most everything
co procs cloak and bubble and your 1 lite drone
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Rordan D'Kherr
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.07.02 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Allahs Warrior
Originally by: Rordan D'Kherr
Align time + booster doesnt matter
Align time matters SO effing much. Do you even fly dictors 0.0? You need to be able to escape inties as you are ALWAYS primary even if you havent dropped a bubble yet.
Booster will help when you're running a MWD to run out of your bubble and you get neuted, or you're laying down the tackle on a single BS.
If the align time is so important to you, fit nanos. To boosters: How long do you wanna perma-run your MWD and tackle? With MWD and disruptor youre holding more than 2 minutes. With MWD and web you run perma.
All I want to say is: Ask for fitting advices and don't cry for a boost / nerf if you do not have a clue how to fit a ship.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.07.02 16:02:00 -
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If you're in a large fleet engagement and you manage to use ALL your cap in a dictor, you (or your enemies) are doing something wrong.
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Rennion
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Posted - 2009.07.02 20:55:00 -
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Edited by: Rennion on 02/07/2009 20:57:33
Flying coffins. Cloak, bubble blower, speed mods some lolbuffer and then fill your cargo holds with items you wish to carry into the afterlife.
For solo you have the ranis, no?
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.02 21:28:00 -
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And really it is always easy when crying how bad a ship is to compare to the best ship in the class. Compare to heretic of flycatcher.
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.07.02 21:58:00 -
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I would like to make a post how transports being unable to fit guns, please boost transports because they'll be more awesome with guns on them.
Bit more contructive; A dictor is a fleet support ship, as such it needs some speed, 2 bubbles, a cloak and possibly a 24k point. Dictors die... a lot, a WHOLE lot. So putting more stuff on your dictor means more expensive losses, nothing more.
Self-proclaimed idiot
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arbiter reformed
Minmatar
Kuvakei's Vengeance
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Posted - 2009.07.02 22:16:00 -
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thing is heretic and flycatcher at least can fit thier wepon sytems resonably well, the hretics issue ly within rokets rather than the ship. the flycatcher is good for fleets with its many missile slots it can keep at range before swooping in to bubble(supposedly) sure the sabre is great but a t2 fit thrasher would still kill it.
ignoring double bubblers, the eris is horribly unbalanced its split wepons are a pain, it is quite obviously quite underpowerd compared to the rest balancewise.
i think they all need boosting, especially with regards to survivabilty
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.07.03 01:07:00 -
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Basically all the dictors are failboats, the sabre is arguably the best of them but it is a failboat nonetheless.
Imo they all could use a boost.
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.07.03 04:37:00 -
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Eris is a cruel joke.
It's a tackler with 2 mids.
The less said about the high slots the better 
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.07.03 06:28:00 -
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I agree that the eris, flycatcher and heretic are way behind the sabre,
tho for what i do with them i prefer the prices on those three over the sabres price ;)
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Albert O'Balsam
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Posted - 2009.07.03 07:03:00 -
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I have recently been looking at dictors - just to see if they fit any other role than just being a sphere launcher - and am finding it difficult. Even though all these ships have a pile of launcher/turret fittings it is almost impossible to use them.
I sort of agree with the OP that "tweaking" these ships to make them a little less one tracked wouldn't hurt.
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Intigo
Amarr
Endemic Aggression
Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.07.03 07:27:00 -
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Wow Allah, your fits are horrible.
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The'Best Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.03 10:45:00 -
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lol, look at those dictor fits. 
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Bonny Lee
Caldari
The Guardian Agency
Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.03 10:52:00 -
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Me as a sabre-pilot do support a buff to all the other dics so they are a bit better then the sabre.
I dont want to pay so much for the suicide-job i have to do.
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Ralara
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.07.03 11:41:00 -
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[Eris, New Setup 1]
Co-Processor I
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
[empty med slot]
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Prototype Cloaking Device I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
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