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Jr Grae
The Bones Brigade
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Posted - 2009.07.03 03:29:00 -
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Generally speaking, what do people consider this ship to excel at?
For arguments sake, lets say I have max Gunnery, Drone, Armor Rep related skills, and all other fitting skills. In what situation would I use the Brutix over the Myrmidon?
I absolutely love the look of the Brutix and want to fly it effectively, but it seems as though the Myrm has it beat whether it be PvP or PvE (missions)
Call me a bear, but I care.
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me0de
Holographic Universe
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Posted - 2009.07.03 04:03:00 -
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Shield tank it and let rip with DPS
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me0de
Holographic Universe
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Posted - 2009.07.03 04:08:00 -
[3]
If you were wondering;
[Brutix, The Brutix that could]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Reactor Control Unit II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hammerhead II x5
Use ecm drones if you're a *****
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Shamhat Arete
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2009.07.03 05:40:00 -
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Well, the Brutix makes a better miner or gas harvester. 
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Kessiaan
Minmatar
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.07.03 06:07:00 -
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Brutix is a big Thorax. 3x magstabs, a big plate, a DC2, and the biggest guns you can strap on.
Basically, it's a Deimos without the huge price tag.
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Raimo
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.07.03 06:54:00 -
[6]
 Originally by: me0de
Shield tank it and let rip with DPS
This. Shield resist rigs are also super cheap.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.03 07:32:00 -
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Why an explosive resist rig over kinetic/another EM?
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Raimo
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.07.03 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Why an explosive resist rig over kinetic/another EM?
Oh yeah, 2x EM and 1x Therm is the way to go IMO.
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.07.03 09:50:00 -
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The Brutix excels at something?
(It doesn't. Gallente BCs are terrible, get a Hurricane/Harbinger/Drake.)
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Muad' Dib
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.03 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Raimo
Originally by: Furb Killer
Why an explosive resist rig over kinetic/another EM?
Oh yeah, 2x EM and 1x Therm is the way to go IMO.
Generally yes, but could also be a no.
2x EM rigs will give you what ... 45% resists on em ?
Extenders don't stack, and give as bonuses 1.15x1.15x1.15=1.520875
So, with extenders you get more HP on any resist.
Off-c, extenders are 20m each and resist rigs are 3.5m each. :)
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Raimo
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.07.03 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: Raimo on 03/07/2009 11:33:16
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Off-c, extenders are 20m each and resist rigs are 3.5m each. :)
Yea, I based my point on that, and on that I like balanced resists.
Tho I guess something like 1x EM II and 2x Extender rigs would net you much more buffer if you want to invest a bit... (Something that I'd consider fitting myself... But most people don't want to put 60-80 mil in rigs on a suicide BC, I wonder why? :P )
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Gentarie Yomishata
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Posted - 2009.07.03 11:40:00 -
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Of course the Myrmidon outshines the Brutix in most areas. This is why the myrmi is a tier 2 battlecruiser. The brutix is a slightly more affordable battlecruiser, yet plays a different role. It is a gunboat. So, if some reason, a Gallente pilot has more skill in gunnery than drones, such as they haven't played in 2 years since the drone overhaul, then their best bet can be placed on the Brutix for damage. Personally though, I see all Gallente ships as either speedtanks or armortanks. But yes, it shines in different areas. take the tier 2 cruiser Vexor and the tier 3 cruiser Thorax into account. Thorax is a gunboat and can whoop butt if you have the right setup, and the Vexor is a droneboat and can whoop butt if you have the right setup. Each battlecruiser supports different playstyles.
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Muad' Dib
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.03 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Raimo
Edited by: Raimo on 03/07/2009 11:33:16
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Off-c, extenders are 20m each and resist rigs are 3.5m each. :)
Yea, I based my point on that, and on that I like balanced resists.
Tho I guess something like 1x EM II and 2x Extender rigs would net you much more buffer if you want to invest a bit... (Something that I'd consider fitting myself... But most people don't want to put 60-80 mil in rigs on a suicide BC, I wonder why? :P )
Ummm ... true; but i know some ppl who would fit 60-70m in rigs on a frigate. :)
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Raimo
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.07.03 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib
Ummm ... true; but i know some ppl who would fit 60-70m in rigs on a frigate. :)
Yeah, I'm one of those. I tend to rig everything I fly and as long as it's not more than the cheap T2's (30-50mil a pop, T2 Shield resists, weapon rigs) I'll go for it... Ofc some ships I see as more disposable but even those I will rig at least cheaply.
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Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity
YARRR and CO
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Posted - 2009.07.03 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib
Originally by: Raimo
Edited by: Raimo on 03/07/2009 11:33:16
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Off-c, extenders are 20m each and resist rigs are 3.5m each. :)
Yea, I based my point on that, and on that I like balanced resists.
Tho I guess something like 1x EM II and 2x Extender rigs would net you much more buffer if you want to invest a bit... (Something that I'd consider fitting myself... But most people don't want to put 60-80 mil in rigs on a suicide BC, I wonder why? :P )
Ummm ... true; but i know some ppl who would fit 60-70m in rigs on a frigate. :)
they must not do a lot of pvp in small gangs.
the shield-gank brutix really is great, just have to be aware that you will get primaried, so make sure to warp in seconds after rest of fleet etc. Its not so hot for solo work though however because its so tactically inflexible.
a bit OT, but the myrm really needs some love. I honestly see no reason to fly one over a vexor for 90% of situations.
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Intigo
Amarr
Endemic Aggression
Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.07.03 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Morel Nova
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Originally by: Raimo
Edited by: Raimo on 03/07/2009 11:33:16
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Off-c, extenders are 20m each and resist rigs are 3.5m each. :)
Yea, I based my point on that, and on that I like balanced resists.
Tho I guess something like 1x EM II and 2x Extender rigs would net you much more buffer if you want to invest a bit... (Something that I'd consider fitting myself... But most people don't want to put 60-80 mil in rigs on a suicide BC, I wonder why? :P )
Ummm ... true; but i know some ppl who would fit 60-70m in rigs on a frigate. :)
they must not do a lot of pvp in small gangs.
the shield-gank brutix really is great, just have to be aware that you will get primaried, so make sure to warp in seconds after rest of fleet etc. Its not so hot for solo work though however because its so tactically inflexible.
a bit OT, but the myrm really needs some love. I honestly see no reason to fly one over a vexor for 90% of situations.
Shield gank fit it and never get primaried because people will expect you to do no DPS (when in reality you're doing 800+). Fly it together with an overtanked Harbinger that will get primaried 90% of the time. ;)
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.07.03 11:59:00 -
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I wouldn't spend a lot of ISK on rigging a Brutix. You tend to be popular in one.
Also, the Harbinger is a much better gang DPS ship.
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Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity
YARRR and CO
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Posted - 2009.07.03 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: TraininVain
I wouldn't spend a lot of ISK on rigging a Brutix. You tend to be popular in one.
Also, the Harbinger is a much better gang DPS ship.
not when you can get warp-ins (most of the time in lowsec combat)
Put in space whales!
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Azirapheal
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.07.03 14:29:00 -
[19]
absolutely nothing,
(someone ha to
Originally by: Grohalmatar
The proposed changes in the game development forum are obviously a nerf to falcon pilots. However, what they really are is a nerf to falcon alts.
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The Truckdriver
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.03 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: The Truckdriver on 03/07/2009 14:46:55
Its good for suicide ganking haulers
7x limited neutrons with caldary navy antimatter ammo
1x scram
1x web
1x painter
3x mag stabss
1x dmg control
2x ean
5x hammerheads
You'll rip through every hauler in .5 before concord comes around.
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Forcerix Dragoon
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.07.03 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sera Ryskin
The Brutix excels at something?
(It doesn't. Gallente BCs are terrible, get a Hurricane/Harbinger/Drake.)
You obviously haven't met a decent Myrm pilot ingame.
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Vaurion Infara
Gallente
Invicta.
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Posted - 2009.07.05 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: Forcerix Dragoon
Originally by: Sera Ryskin
The Brutix excels at something?
(It doesn't. Gallente BCs are terrible, get a Hurricane/Harbinger/Drake.)
You obviously haven't met a decent Myrm pilot ingame.
^ This. I've soloed every kind of BC in the game with a Myrm. It's one of the most flexible, underrated, and amazing ships out there.
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Steve Celeste
Caldari
Overdogs
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Posted - 2009.07.05 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: The Truckdriver
Edited by: The Truckdriver on 03/07/2009 14:46:55
Its good for suicide ganking haulers
7x limited neutrons with caldary navy antimatter ammo
1x scram
1x web
1x painter
3x mag stabss
1x dmg control
2x ean
5x hammerheads
You'll rip through every hauler in .5 before concord comes around.
Concord doesn't care if you are tanked or not, you die just as fast.
Full gank no tank
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.05 11:10:00 -
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Sentry guns care. I dunno if you need the damage control, but i seriously doubt the eanms have any usefull goal.
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Muad' Dib
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.05 11:17:00 -
[25]
Originally by: The Truckdriver
Edited by: The Truckdriver on 03/07/2009 14:46:55
Its good for suicide ganking haulers
7x limited neutrons with caldary navy antimatter ammo
1x scram
1x web
1x painter
3x mag stabss
1x dmg control
2x ean
5x hammerheads
You'll rip through every hauler in .5 before concord comes around.
You've got 1 less mid and 1 extra low on that brutix, kinda says it all about how **** you are tbh. :)
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Emily Poast
The Whipping Post
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Posted - 2009.07.06 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Emily Poast on 06/07/2009 15:31:58
Look up some of the Club Bear videos. Kil2 or KaiH (I think that is his name). In one of the more recent ones, they show how to use a Brutix for solo pvp. You have to start out at short range, so you generally have to get lucky, or trick people into coming to you.
Fit is something like:
7 x electrons
web, scram, MWD, med cap booster
2x MAR II, 2 x EANM, DCU
I have seen some builds that swap one EANM for a Mag-stab.
EDIT: Left out a MAR
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Stil Harkonnen
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Posted - 2009.07.07 01:11:00 -
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Edited by: Stil Harkonnen on 07/07/2009 01:12:10
I just made this fit, and it seems pretty useful for dumping ridiculous damage on other ships.
[Brutix, blaster]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Fleeting Warp Disruptor I
Alumel-Wired I Sensor Augmentation, Scan Resolution
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
Valkyrie II x5
650 dps without overheating WITH MY SKILLS (which are high, but not maxed). 10 or 11k armor buffer and don't forget the 6k hull. so 16k buffer. Not too shabby imo. if rigs get cheaper with the changes, put some rigs on there to boost damage even more. Also having some fleet bonuses will help out. use in gangs
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Wai Ng'Tse
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Posted - 2009.07.07 13:37:00 -
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2 x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1 x Damage Control II
2 x Reinforced Bulkheads II
1 x 10MN MWD
1 x Langour Webber
1 x Warp Scrambler II / Disruptor
1 x Small Cap Booster II, 200's
5 x Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void
2 x Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void
5 x Hammerhead II
IIRC it fits, it's redonkulously good DPS/ISK ratio.
Roughly 30k EHP and it has an honour tank.
But all those shield tank setups are dumb as you NEEEEEED a cap booster to keep the guns going for any length of time.
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Dasalt Istgut
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Posted - 2009.07.08 09:31:00 -
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"What do people consider this ship to excel at?"
Cheap PVP. Its better for pirating than a Myrm because it doesn't rely on drones (so gate gun fire isn't an issue). Its cheaper than a HAC. It can fit full tackle + tank + 50m3 drone bay + it hits hard. Where it isn't great is that it isn't what I'd call a "survivable" ship in a blaster setup. Then again, there is no such thing as a survivable blaster boat - entering scram range makes things do or die. It doesn't have the sort of tank where you're going to lazily deaggress and jump through a gate to get away from people. Basically its a big thorax.
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.07.08 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Stil Harkonnen
Edited by: Stil Harkonnen on 07/07/2009 01:12:10
I just made this fit, and it seems pretty useful for dumping ridiculous damage on other ships.
It seems useful, but it is not. The Harbinger, Hurricane and Drake will out-dps it with vastly better range. If you're going to use a Brutix (you shouldn't, but let's assume you're masochistic enough to do it anyway), either fit T2 neutron blasters with 3x magstabs or reprocess your ship and use the minerals to build a non-comedy BC.
For example:
[Harbinger, No gang mod.]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Co-Processor II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Core Defence Field Extender I
Core Defence Field Extender I
Core Defence Field Extender I
Hammerhead II x5
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