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RonPaul Rox
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Posted - 2009.07.06 23:32:00 -
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Hello, I'm a newb to eve and am enjoying myself so far. Like many newbs, I'm broke and need some good income, so i had an idea...
pirates are ganking hulks, which can cost around 175 mil after fitting, plus it takes time and is annoying to re-buy and re-fit one cost-effectively.
Some one said it's against the ToS to shoot yourself with an alt to have CONCORD spawn next to you. I don't know if this is true, but if your alt is not a noob, the opportunity cost of doing this may still be kinda high, he could be mining with you instead of kamikaze-ing and taking hits to his security rating.
I will do the CONCORD spawning for you. My main is RonPaul Rox, my suicide alt is named RonPaul Solution. Message me on either and for $600,000 I will come fire a couple shots at you from my starter ship. You can make that $600,000 WAY faster than i can, so we both win.
My base is currently Tintoh, and i will travel up to 10 jumps to do the deed, so if i can help you, let me know
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RedSplat
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.07 00:02:00 -
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Enjoy your ban little one
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.07 00:06:00 -
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600k isk = 50k veldspar = awhile of work
i doubt some miner's gonna go for that. ♥
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Susung
Alt Anti-defamation League
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Posted - 2009.07.07 00:18:00 -
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I am on the fence about this one. Very imaginative.and out of the box good to see some noobs with imagination. Exploit? hmmm you are really just paying someone to attack you. But if it catches on it might cause laggg. Like to see a dev ruling on this
And either way nice angle
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.07 00:24:00 -
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How about a better solution, like the moron miner hires/trains a logi pilot to stay on station with a shield/armor rep.
That, along with actually Paying Attention To The Game should save you from a gank. ♥
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Susung
Alt Anti-defamation League
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Posted - 2009.07.07 00:32:00 -
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I am not saying there isn't a lot of better ways. just giving the kid some props for thiking out of the box.
And stop trolli mmmmmm tasty arguments must get last word.
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.07.07 02:29:00 -
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Active manipulation of CONCORD for one's own end use is against the EULA and will get you banned. It's literally the same thing as spamming noobships in front of a station undock.
-murder one
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.07 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: murder one Active manipulation of CONCORD for one's own end use is against the EULA and will get you banned. It's literally the same thing as spamming noobships in front of a station undock.
Props for thinking outside the box, however this is correct. Proving it may be difficult, but if it catches on CCP will crack down on it. Hey, can we get it to catch on? Concord might get removed after enough whining just like freeforms did.
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Hexentanz
Amarr The Eden Trading International Corporation Hansa Teutonica
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Posted - 2009.07.07 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Hellfury [...] Concord might get removed after enough whining just like freeforms did.
oh god this made my day
that would be to nice to become true ------ TETIC The Eden Trading International Corporation www.tetic.ch / German Trading Corporation |
Rordan D'Kherr
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.07.07 08:41:00 -
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Surprising Armageddon day would be awesome.
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Amber Hael
Gallente G-Nos Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.07 09:04:00 -
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Not an exploit aslong as you don't use a noob alt you're going to reprocess, and even if you do, it's not like they're going to go to the effort to finding out
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Rock urSocksoff
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.07 09:39:00 -
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SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS?????????
Originally by: Saluss Its a bad world in EvE and everyone wants your Retail shuttle.
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Rock urSocksoff
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.07 09:43:00 -
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Petitioned for RMT!!
Originally by: Saluss Its a bad world in EvE and everyone wants your Retail shuttle.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.07 10:00:00 -
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I'm not seeing the solution... last Hulk I suicide ganked went down in under 6 seconds and there was no forewarning of the attack
And did you know that this is in fact Surfin's Plunderbunny's forum alt? It's official! |
Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.07.07 10:10:00 -
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DIS BEATS GANKERZ!!! QUICK CALL IT XPLOIT 2 STOP DA BEARS FRM BEATING US!!
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.07 10:51:00 -
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This is the new solution of the gankers? Randomly calling exploit when someone does something to stop them?
It isnt an exploit as long as you dont recycle the suicide alt.
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Lidirt
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: Lidirt on 07/07/2009 11:06:53 RonPaul LostHard RonPaul DidntEvenGetNominated RonPaul Strangeface
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Liitar
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer This is the new solution of the gankers? Randomly calling exploit when someone does something to stop them?
It isnt an exploit as long as you dont recycle the suicide alt.
a) manipulating concord *IS* a verified exploit, recycling alts is a different exploit b) i'd still get you
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum 600k isk = 50k veldspar = awhile of work
i doubt some miner's gonna go for that.
Are you kidding me? In a properly fitted hulk, that's like 10-15 minutes. 20 tops. For a few hours of protection? I bet he gets some takers - especially from the ice miners. --Vel
Experience is what you get right after you need it.
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iP0D
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: RonPaul Rox Hello, I'm a newb to eve and am enjoying myself so far. Like many newbs, I'm broke and need some good income, so i had an idea...
pirates are ganking hulks, which can cost around 175 mil after fitting, plus it takes time and is annoying to re-buy and re-fit one cost-effectively.
Some one said it's against the ToS to shoot yourself with an alt to have CONCORD spawn next to you. I don't know if this is true, but if your alt is not a noob, the opportunity cost of doing this may still be kinda high, he could be mining with you instead of kamikaze-ing and taking hits to his security rating.
I will do the CONCORD spawning for you. My main is RonPaul Rox, my suicide alt is named RonPaul Solution. Message me on either and for $600,000 I will come fire a couple shots at you from my starter ship. You can make that $600,000 WAY faster than i can, so we both win.
My base is currently Tintoh, and i will travel up to 10 jumps to do the deed, so if i can help you, let me know
It's never been an exploit to provoke Concord. Bears do it to get themselves a sort of extra buffer, gankers do it to time and dictate Concord reactions throughout a system. Same principle.
Recycling the character you use to provoke Concord once the security status gets in the way is at minimum frowned upon, and that's something which usually ends up as exploit a few years later.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:56:00 -
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I wouldn't log in for 600k let alone travel 10 jumps.
You will have to build a huge network of miners to make it worth your while... Miners are the least likely people to trust you, or even engage in conversation... if they are even operated by a human being and not a macro.
This 'tactic' isn't as effective as people think.
Don't give up your day job.
Props for thinking creatively. I like to make money in any way possible other than carebearing so nice one ^ _^
Having said that, go for it, but make sure it's part of a series of services you can offer.
When I was a noob I made a start on my mining career as a grunt hauler, of course that career path ended when they asked for the ore back.
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iP0D
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Posted - 2009.07.07 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
When I was a noob I made a start on my mining career as a grunt hauler, of course that career path ended when they asked for the ore back.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.07.07 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Liitar
Originally by: Furb Killer This is the new solution of the gankers? Randomly calling exploit when someone does something to stop them?
It isnt an exploit as long as you dont recycle the suicide alt.
a) manipulating concord *IS* a verified exploit, recycling alts is a different exploit b) i'd still get you
*IS* in cpaitals, with asterisks. That pretty much *SETTLES IT*. 100% confirmation. Absolutely no doubt. Even though discussing exploits is a thread locker... and this thread isn't locked. Never mind that. Just remember. *CAPITAL LETTERS* = Guarantee that this poster is 100% genuine, 100% knowledge and 100% better than all others.
or b) wishful thinking.
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Tre Circuit
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Posted - 2009.07.07 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Awesome Possum 600k isk = 50k veldspar = awhile of work
i doubt some miner's gonna go for that.
Are you kidding me? In a properly fitted hulk, that's like 10-15 minutes. 20 tops. For a few hours of protection? I bet he gets some takers - especially from the ice miners.
Actually, in a properly fitted and boosted hulk, that is 1 cycle, or about 2 minutes and 15 seconds.
I am curious to know if all these hulks getting ganked are people with no tank skills.
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.07.07 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tre Circuit
I am curious to know if all these hulks getting ganked are people with no tank skills.
A quick look at my kills list shows only ONE guy who ate 5655 damage. The least was 2584, with a 3000 average before asploding.
All sorts of random t2 gear fit, so I'd say it's not a skills issue. It's a greed issue (hint: cargo expanders and rigs reduce ship EHP.) I only gank rigged, t2 fit exhumers so the numbers I'm looking at are probably skewed. And in summary, bigger blobs are the answer. Now what was the question? |
De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.07.07 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tre Circuit
Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Awesome Possum 600k isk = 50k veldspar = awhile of work
i doubt some miner's gonna go for that.
Are you kidding me? In a properly fitted hulk, that's like 10-15 minutes. 20 tops. For a few hours of protection? I bet he gets some takers - especially from the ice miners.
Actually, in a properly fitted and boosted hulk, that is 1 cycle, or about 2 minutes and 15 seconds.
I am curious to know if all these hulks getting ganked are people with no tank skills.
A) Yeah, it's about one cycle, but I'm not docking after just one cycle. :-) B) Re tank skills, Probably. --Vel
Experience is what you get right after you need it.
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Robin Plunder
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Posted - 2009.07.07 20:56:00 -
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Confirming miners lack tank skills. Until they NEED them. A little stint in null-sec with angels rats was what got me learning. It's totally worth it though, if you forget to deploy drones while afk mining and come back to see some 0.6 rat unable to break your buffer tank.
But one's chances of being high-sec ganked even during Jihad are very very slim. (Though I'm not tempting fate by posting from my mining character).
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Reaver Leader
Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2009.07.07 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: RonPaul Rox You can make that $600,000
Is that US or Euro's?
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Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.07.07 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lidirt Edited by: Lidirt on 07/07/2009 11:06:53 RonPaul LostHard RonPaul DidntEvenGetNominated RonPaul Strangeface
the fighting republicans approve of this ron paul bashing
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nova strikin
Hooride Raiders
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Posted - 2009.07.07 21:40:00 -
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I do not endorse this message , but must say that I fully endorse anything that Ron Paul has to say!!
END THA FED
"if i had 1 wish id line up all the members of congress, and have ron paul walk with me down the line and say "ok which ones are corrupted" and the ones he points to as being corrupted im gonna choke em unconscious and stick em into a pile" - chuck norris
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