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Lacaius	Posted - 2009.07.08 22:08:00 - [1] Multi-logging: a course of action which an individual is granted access to multiple accounts including new, old, and other individuals accounts repeatedly. I request a ban or lock of one account use per i.p. in gameplay login. consider the following: -Indivual uses another better individuals account to make more money and put it into corp account. Individual logs into personal account with access to corp funds and uses to his benifit or corps benifit. -Indivdual wants to start a new account due to mistakes made on current account. Individual then creates a new one and transfers funds. -Individual wants to engage in war with another corp. or individual. Individual then logs onto (example) 3 accounts at a single location to destroy other individual. -Individual mines in 0 sec with one account and protect himself with another account. Thusfore multilogs. -Individual spams with one account and plays with another. These are a few multi-log uses I have come up with. There are possibly many, many, more that could be concidered. I request use of only one account per gameplay i.p. or log-in limit or something to make this action prohibited. Thank you for reading and/or concidering my proposal. Your fellow gamer Lacaius, USAF A1C Linnartz, Joseph
SolarKnight Gallente ORIGIN SYSTEMS Shadows of Light	Posted - 2009.07.08 22:22:00 - [2] Edited by: SolarKnight on 08/07/2009 22:22:23 Sorry, nope The Light in the Darkness
Vyanr Minmatar Professors On Steriods DEFI4NT	Posted - 2009.07.08 22:23:00 - [3] No. Sorry, there's use for having an alt account. Mining + hauler Cyno alt for capitals Trade alt to see market details without traveling. If someone is using 3 alts at the same time in a battle, then I take my hat off to them for their multi-tasking abilities. Other than that, They're paying full subs for all of their alt accounts.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.07.08 22:27:00 - [4] No. If someone wants to pay for multiple accounts, they should be able to use all of them (or as many as they can manage at one time). --Vel Experience is what you get right after you need it.
steave435 Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.07.08 22:29:00 - [5] You failed to explain why any of those scenarios are bad. They're not. However: Quote: -Indivual uses another better individuals account to make more money and put it into corp account. Individual logs into personal account with access to corp funds and uses to his benifit or corps benifit. That would be account sharing, which is banned.
SupaKudoRio	Posted - 2009.07.08 22:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Lacaius Multi-logging: a course of action which an individual is granted access to multiple accounts including new, old, and other individuals accounts repeatedly. Lolwut? Originally by: Lacaius I request a ban or lock of one account use per i.p. in gameplay login. consider the following: This should be good... Originally by: Lacaius -Indivual uses another better individuals account to make more money and put it into corp account. Individual logs into personal account with access to corp funds and uses to his benifit or corps benifit. Working as intended. That's done by just about everyone in a player corp anyway. Originally by: Lacaius -Indivdual wants to start a new account due to mistakes made on current account. Individual then creates a new one and transfers funds. And that is bad how? Originally by: Lacaius -Individual wants to engage in war with another corp. or individual. Individual then logs onto (example) 3 accounts at a single location to destroy other individual. They are still just one person. Can you imagine how HARD it would be to engage in PvP with three accounts at once? Originally by: Lacaius -Individual mines in 0 sec with one account and protect himself with another account. Thusfore multilogs. And why shouldn't they be able to get security? Originally by: Lacaius -Individual spams with one account and plays with another. The spam account would be useless very fast, since people are quite quick with the block option with spammers. Making this a bannable offence won't stop it either; just like isk sellers they'll come right back. Originally by: Lacaius These are a few multi-log uses I have come up with. There are possibly many, many, more that could be concidered. I request use of only one account per gameplay i.p. or log-in limit or something to make this action prohibited. Thank you for reading and/or concidering my proposal. Your fellow gamer Lacaius, USAF A1C Linnartz, Joseph Yes, there are many more uses. All equally WITHIN the EULA, and any other rulesets you can think of as applies to EVE. In fact, all of the things you listed are completely within normal game mechanics. 6/10; convincing. -SIG- The true meaning of CCP; Completely Crap Patches. Truth.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.07.08 23:16:00 - [7] Originally by: SupaKudoRio 6/10; convincing. I think you're being generous. --Vel Experience is what you get right after you need it.
SupaKudoRio	Posted - 2009.07.08 23:27:00 - [8] Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 08/07/2009 23:27:18 I think not. Most trolls don't even bother to make it look like a real issue on first glance. Almost thought it was serious, until I deconstructed it. -SIG- The true meaning of CCP; Completely Crap Patches. Truth.
Lacaius	Posted - 2009.07.08 23:46:00 - [9] Edited by: Lacaius on 08/07/2009 23:47:27 Edited by: Lacaius on 08/07/2009 23:47:02 Originally by: steave435 You failed to explain why any of those scenarios are bad. They're not. However: Quote: -Indivual uses another better individuals account to make more money and put it into corp account. Individual logs into personal account with access to corp funds and uses to his benifit or corps benifit. That would be account sharing, which is banned. So i guess then if there not bad this i guess should be a single player mmorpg because it obsoletes the need for co-op gameplay...
Vyanr Minmatar Professors On Steriods DEFI4NT	Posted - 2009.07.09 00:02:00 - [10] Edited by: Vyanr on 09/07/2009 00:07:23 Originally by: Lacaius So i guess then if there not bad this i guess should be a single player mmorpg because it obsoletes the need for co-op gameplay... lolwut? I guess you've never been to a null-sec alliance fleet battle before. Sad, sad. --edit-- Just looked up your chara's creation, relatively new, the corp you've joined is new; High-sec mining, mission running. Ah yes, you've never actually done anything with a lot of folks before, and I think you're grumbling due to bot miners stripping the belts before you can do anything.

steave435 Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.07.09 00:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Lacaius Edited by: Lacaius on 08/07/2009 23:47:27 Edited by: Lacaius on 08/07/2009 23:47:02 Originally by: steave435 You failed to explain why any of those scenarios are bad. They're not. However: Quote: -Indivual uses another better individuals account to make more money and put it into corp account. Individual logs into personal account with access to corp funds and uses to his benifit or corps benifit. That would be account sharing, which is banned. So i guess then if there not bad this i guess should be a single player mmorpg because it obsoletes the need for co-op gameplay... Riiiight, noone ever need anyone else in this game atm at any point at all.
Lladar Gallente Gamers Haven	Posted - 2009.07.09 00:47:00 - [12] Edited by: Lladar on 09/07/2009 00:48:13 I really don't see how having an alt account is a bad thing. Even if you don't like how they transfer money and items that just means it goes from one character to another... it all still exists no matter what. There is no point for a ban... something is telling me you had a bad experience with someone doing this. Did you get killed? Did you get ripped off? There needs to be some reason why you think they should be banned. If you ask me I think it would be more difficult to play multiple accounts than just one. But who cares, right? It doesn't matter. It doesn't ruin gameplay and it doesn't discourage teaming up with other people. I disagree.
darius mclever	Posted - 2009.07.09 00:50:00 - [13] not supported. please play a few more months before judging a game as complex as eve.
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange Coalition of Free Stars	Posted - 2009.07.09 01:23:00 - [14] Yes, because we're going to convince CCP to throw away tens of thousands of subscriptions because you're annoyed that some people are better at managing multiple accounts than you are. Boo freaking hoo.
Kaylan Jahlar Minmatar Industrial Limited	Posted - 2009.07.09 02:09:00 - [15] You pay, you play. If you pay for 3 accounts, you should be able to play all 3. I personally have 2 accounts (this one, and Marek Jahlar). And I frequently use both at the same time. I'm not about to change this for you. ________________ Kaylan Jahlar The Assembly Hall needs your support!
Lacaius	Posted - 2009.07.09 02:18:00 - [16] Originally by: Kaylan Jahlar You pay, you play. If you pay for 3 accounts, you should be able to play all 3. I personally have 2 accounts (this one, and Marek Jahlar). And I frequently use both at the same time. I'm not about to change this for you. not for me but many new players, im not selfish like many players...
Emily Waaram	Posted - 2009.07.09 02:55:00 - [17] Originally by: Lacaius Originally by: Kaylan Jahlar You pay, you play. If you pay for 3 accounts, you should be able to play all 3. I personally have 2 accounts (this one, and Marek Jahlar). And I frequently use both at the same time. I'm not about to change this for you. not for me but many new players, im not selfish like many players... I think it's kinda selfish you want me to get rid of my alt so you can somehow play at an even level with me.
Lacaius	Posted - 2009.07.09 03:05:00 - [18] Originally by: Emily Waaram Originally by: Lacaius Originally by: Kaylan Jahlar You pay, you play. If you pay for 3 accounts, you should be able to play all 3. I personally have 2 accounts (this one, and Marek Jahlar). And I frequently use both at the same time. I'm not about to change this for you. not for me but many new players, im not selfish like many players... I think it's kinda selfish you want me to get rid of my alt so you can somehow play at an even level with me. so everyone can play evenly is all im saying..
Kaylan Jahlar Minmatar Industrial Limited	Posted - 2009.07.09 03:38:00 - [19] Originally by: Lacaius so everyone can play evenly is all im saying.. It's about time you wake up and smell the coffee dude. The grown up world doesn't work like that. You have more money, you get more. You have more time, you do more. Plain and simple. It's always been like that, and it's not about to change. You better learn how to cope with this or you'll be a very sad gamer no matter which MMORPG you play. ________________ Kaylan Jahlar The Assembly Hall needs your support!
Rip Minner Gallente Freewind Ventures	Posted - 2009.07.09 03:47:00 - [20] What in EVE's great wide Verse made you think for one micro sec that this game was anything close to fair?

Commandobob North American Man Bear Love Association	Posted - 2009.07.09 06:01:00 - [21] Quit eve. I've earned enough isk to pay for multiple accounts and so can you. QQ more noob. Hello Kitty online adventures is more your style.
Uronksur Suth Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.07.09 06:41:00 - [22] no
SupaKudoRio	Posted - 2009.07.09 06:57:00 - [23] Originally by: Lacaius not for me but many new players, im not selfish like many players... Dammit, you broke my Bullsht-o-meter! -SIG- The true meaning of CCP*; Completely Crap Patches. Truth.
Maxsim Goratiev Gallente Imperial Tau Syndicate	Posted - 2009.07.09 08:06:00 - [24] Originally by: SupaKudoRio Originally by: Lacaius not for me but many new players, im not selfish like many players... Dammit, you broke my Bullsh*t-o-meter! I loled hard over that.... In eve it's alowed to use as many accounts simultaniosly and you whant, there are people who have 7 accounts and more. That's it. That is not changing. Fix Destroyers
lucifers widow	Posted - 2009.07.09 08:58:00 - [25] Originally by: SupaKudoRio 6/10; convincing. More convinving if he supported it, esp if he used all his accounts and alts to support.
Cyberman Mastermind	Posted - 2009.07.09 13:58:00 - [26] I would almost like to agree with the OP. However, the game seems to be built around the idea that you're using second-account alts. Few things can be done alone - or in a way that is worthwile for more than one person. A second account is too often simply necessary. Few are willing to do boring tasks with hardly any interaction, for no reward. Alts don't mind.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.07.09 16:15:00 - [27] Originally by: Lacaius so everyone can play evenly is all im saying.. If I wanted to play a game that was fair it sure has heck would not be Eve. If I can pay for more then one account (I have 3) and have fun doing it (I do) then, by golly, I will. CCP seems to have no problem taking my money. If you want to change that I suggest you get a loan and buy out CCP. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Master Chaz	Posted - 2009.07.09 18:05:00 - [28] well, i play 6 accounts in eve and all my slots are full, i got miners , orca and haulers, pvpers builders etc. etc . i am a 1 man corps . so although i pay for all 6 accounts and can play any 4 at one time . i shouldnt be able to do so? and if my prober finds a good mining site , and i log my miners to go do some roid-o-cide i am somhow cheating? im really surprised you had the balls to even come here with that man , more than 1/2 of eve are somebodys alts weather they have multi-accounts or just one , i bet you have more then one toon rolled on that account your on .
Lacaius	Posted - 2009.07.10 00:45:00 - [29] Originally by: lucifers widow Originally by: SupaKudoRio 6/10; convincing. More convinving if he supported it, esp if he used all his accounts and alts to support. I do only have one account.... no want to get another.
Velvet Sinner	Posted - 2009.07.10 06:23:00 - [30] Wow... You were stoned when you posted, weren't you, OP? :)

Darkwolf Caldari The Older Gamers Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.10 07:20:00 - [31] Hrm, I read this as "People do stuff that I don't want to do and get advantages over me because of it! It's not fair! UMPIRE!!!!". EVE is not a fair game. Get over it.
AtheistOfDoom Amarr The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.07.19 01:14:00 - [32] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto Yes, because we're going to convince CCP to throw away tens of thousands of subscriptions because you're annoyed that some people are better at managing multiple accounts than you are. Boo freaking hoo. Pew Pew Lazorz!!!
Zostera Minmatar Honour Bound	Posted - 2009.07.19 10:11:00 - [33] Quick question because I genuinely don't know the answer... Does any other MMO limit people to one account per IP? Zos
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.07.19 12:07:00 - [34] hey guys lets abolish cyno alts thereby making EVE completely unplayable for capital ship pilots woohoo (no)
Syberbolt8 Gallente Oblivion Industries DEFI4NT	Posted - 2009.07.19 21:38:00 - [35] Look, even if people are using alts and mains at the same time, what difference does that make to you? Fact is, they pay for them, they have a right to use them. If you don't have an alt that's your issue, get one if you want one, but don't complain that I have a few. End of day its not even about who has more RL money getting an advantage, I pay for 3 accounts with isk only, so if I can do it, so can you. Past that, lets pretend that you get your way, only one logon per IP, now what happens. It so happens that I play eve, so does my wife, so, which of us are allowed to run eve? me or her, and why should she pay for an account but not be allowed to use it because I'm using mine? Are you going to pay for my 2nd internet connection so I can have 2 IP addresses? Past that, what about collage's, I know there are tons of people from the same schools on there school internet connection playing eve, I guess they are out too. How much RL money do you think CCP will let go, so you feel like its fair for you? Lets go one step further, say CCP pull a dumb dumb and do this, one account per IP, do you have any clue how many proxy servers there are in the world that can be used to redirect the connection to CCP, so it comes from a different IP address, thus allowing one person that is smart and knows what they are doing an advantage that no one else can use. I mean lets face it, you can get an alt, of your own, hell the first 51 days are free if you start a 21 day trial with the buddy program from your main, then pay for the 30 days on that trial, your main gets his 30 days too. You see, allowing everyone to have multiple accounts log on from one location is fair, not allowing it, and people in the know taking advantage of there IT degree's is not fair, and will **** you off even more then allowing everyone to do it. At the end of day, no one, not even CCP could stop multi boxing. Have a nice day, and please try to think before you post. Support the DEAD HORSE POS's
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange	Posted - 2009.07.19 21:57:00 - [36] The real question is why you guys are all still bumping this idiotic thread. It's old, it's been mocked more than enough already, and it's never going to happen. Let it fall off the front page.
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.07.20 00:55:00 - [37] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto The real question is why you guys are all still bumping this idiotic thread. It's old, it's been mocked more than enough already, and it's never going to happen. Let it fall off the front page. You must be new here
Syberbolt8 Gallente Oblivion Industries DEFI4NT	Posted - 2009.07.20 02:34:00 - [38] Originally by: Scatim Helicon Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto The real question is why you guys are all still bumping this idiotic thread. It's old, it's been mocked more than enough already, and it's never going to happen. Let it fall off the front page. You must be new here I loled Fake EDIT: damn bumped it again :( Support the DEAD HORSE POS's
Jinx Barker Caldari GFB Scientific	Posted - 2009.07.20 02:38:00 - [39] Never ever ever gona happen....
Kytanos Termek Caldari Darkstorm Command Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.07.20 17:59:00 - [40] No.

Belmarduk Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2009.07.21 05:32:00 - [41] No Mainchar:
Cyberman Mastermind	Posted - 2009.07.21 08:22:00 - [42] Originally by: Zostera Quick question because I genuinely don't know the answer... Does any other MMO limit people to one account per IP? Hm. Do you count Guild Wars as MMO? They don't restrict to one IP, but one instance of the game. I don't really know why.
Lost Hamster Hamster Holding Corp	Posted - 2009.07.21 09:09:00 - [43] No
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.21 09:50:00 - [44] Page 2, haven't read all of the other replies, but i assume you've been called an idiot enough times in this thread. PS: Next time grow a pair and post with your main. --- I smack just for myself. * Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2009.07.21 10:26:00 - [45] Hmmm..... Falcon stealth whine detected. ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Nidhiesk	Posted - 2009.07.21 12:19:00 - [46] Originally by: Muad' Dib Page 2, haven't read all of the other replies, but i assume you've been called an idiot enough times in this thread. PS: Next time grow a pair and post with your main. a pair ? I think he has a pair just to do this kind of post already. lol. He's just asking for trouble. he just didn't look at the problem at all angles.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre	Posted - 2009.07.21 14:30:00 - [47] The ONLY change ill support is if alts where removed but additional accounts where permitted. simply because the alt thing is getting out of hand... but that might be an entirely different problem in itself. But in all things the point remains... if they want to lay down some money... who is CCP to deny the privilege? then you run into the rich man poor man argument..but that's a different story. Not supported. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= Dependable, Honorable, Intelligent, No-nonsense Vote Herschel Yamamoto for CSM!
Hoo Is	Posted - 2009.07.21 20:35:00 - [48] I hate multi-boxing kinda takes the Multi-Player outta the MMO.
Gaven Darklighter	Posted - 2009.07.22 06:20:00 - [49] can I have some balogna? I heard I could find it here /me pauses for laughter but seriously, I would stop paying for my alts, and so would a good portion of the Eve community I believe. This is a fun game for people to play, not a fricking job. So many people on these forums seem to forget this is for fun, not so you can vicariously live a successful life or some crap like that. Deal with it. Bump, so people know who to pod next time they log on. I hope they bring alts for the irony
Twilight Magester Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.07.22 06:32:00 - [50] Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind Originally by: Zostera Quick question because I genuinely don't know the answer... Does any other MMO limit people to one account per IP? Hm. Do you count Guild Wars as MMO? They don't restrict to one IP, but one instance of the game. I don't really know why. Free bump for OP because this is silly and everyone should see how silly it is. To my quoted friend: Guild Wars can be run in multiple instances on the same computer, there's a regedit method and there's a program method. Regedit is technically safer for your account, but I use GWx2 and works fine for me. (GW is also technically a CORPG, but whatever) And then to the OP 3 accounts means 45$ a month (because I blow all my isk on spaceships and have a general disability which allows me from saving up enough money to purchase GTC's). Basically "Boo-Hoo" only one guy cared, and that's because he can't afford a second account yet.



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