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Salpad
Caldari
Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2009.07.10 13:32:00 -
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Seriously. The pilot on any given account with the most SPs should get a salary in ISK, from CCP, every month, although reduced to 20% if non-subscribed and reduced to a further 5% if non-subscribed for over 12 months in a row.
The monthly salary could be 100k ISK for up to 3M SP, 200k ISK for up to 10M SP, 400k ISK for up to 10M SP, 1M ISK for up to 30M SP, and 4M ISK for over 30M SP.
This way, if a player loses everything, and cannot afford to buy even a frigate, and can't get anyone to loan him the ISK, he can wait a month and be able to buy at least a low-end (tier 1) frigate, so he can start earning ISK again.
What do you say?
It won't break the game, since any active player with that amount of SPs can earn much more ISK by actually playing the game, but it'll be a nice help for a player really down on his luck.
It's also an added incentive to re-subscribe if you've been gone, even if you've been gone for months.
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Valandril
Caldari
Ex-Mortis
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Posted - 2009.07.10 14:03:00 -
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That you always got a free ibis that will get you up and running a lot faster.
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Salpad
Caldari
Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2009.07.10 14:09:00 -
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On second thought, the "salary" should only go to accounts that have been paid for at least once, regardless of if it is via game time in-the-box, an ETC, or a credit card.
I still stand by my idea, though.
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Zombie Stu
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Posted - 2009.07.10 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Zombie Stu on 10/07/2009 14:58:02
The stupid. It hurts.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.07.10 15:04:00 -
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Pod-pilot welfare checks?? Ugh.. get a job!
~ Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic |
Paul Clavet
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.07.10 15:25:00 -
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If you show up at a station with nothing but the pod on your back, so to speak, you are given a rookie ship with a gun and a mining laser. You can immediately undock and head for an asteroid belt, and have enough for a frigate in very short order. Even if all you do is mine, you'll be in fitted cruisers in under a week.
Under your proposed plan, I could "lose everything" on the 10th of the month, and have to wait three weeks for my "welfare" payment to arrive.
No, the "problem" you see was fixed long ago with handout rookie ships, and fixed in a more rewarding manner than just tossing players ISK.
I give it a 2/10.
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Suddenly Ninjas
Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
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Marcus Gideon
Gallente
The NightClub
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Posted - 2009.07.10 15:43:00 -
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Here's a deeper solution to your paycheck/retirement problem.
Get into R&D agents. If nothing else, you set up a single agent and let them build your RP.
Then when you find yourself completely without funds... you take that free rookie boat back to them and cash in your RP for datacores. Then sell those off at the nearest hub and you're back in business.
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Abulurd Boniface
Gallente
Mercantile Exchange for Mining And Exploration
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Posted - 2009.07.10 15:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Paul Clavet
If you show up at a station with nothing but the pod on your back, so to speak, you are given a rookie ship with a gun and a mining laser.
I was going to say the exact same thing. You get a rookie ship with a mining laser, the world is your oister. A better frigate with a bigger hold is a snap. Then you get a better laser, you hook the laser onto an industrial that you fill up with ore while you're picking your nose, making dinner, love or merry, before you know it you're back in a Retriever. All the while your skills help you increase your ISK/hour.
Even when the only thing you've got left in the universe is the basic rookie ship, you're in a Retriever by the end of the day [if you're slacking off]. You can't avoid becoming modestly rich while doing almost nothing.
And you want a salary? Tsk tsk tsk.
Abulurd Boniface
ME ME
CEO
For good to survive it suffices for evil to acquire a deadly, incapacitating disease. |
Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2009.07.10 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Mei on 10/07/2009 17:00:11
The odds of you losing absolutely everything after a month of play is so small that if you did you deserve to start over to be frank.
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voogru
Gallente
Massive Damage
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2009.07.11 11:00:00 -
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Here's an idea.
Don't fly with all of your stuff.
Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
Common, welfare in a video games? What's next? Make rich players pay taxes that go to poor players? 
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Tarron Sarek
Gallente
Biotronics Inc.
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.07.11 11:07:00 -
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EVE is all about consequences. It's a crucial aspect of the game.
If you act stupid and lose everything, you should work hard to regain it.
I don't think EVE needs a safety-net for stupid players.
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Valandril
Caldari
Ex-Mortis
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Posted - 2009.07.11 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: voogru
Common, welfare in a video games? What's next? Make rich players pay taxes that go to poor players?
****ing communists are everywhere i tell you.
Do not discuss moderation in your signature. Zymurgist |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.07.11 12:04:00 -
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considering it takes like what 20 mins in a rookie ship to make that 100k is it really needed?
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Kessiaan
Minmatar
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.07.11 13:48:00 -
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I've actually done the rookie ship thing. When I came back from 0.0 when I was about six months old and still a hardcore minerbear, I had literally nothing. No isk, no ships, nada.
I mined for about two days (watched a lot of movies...) and when I was done I had a mission Myrm, a Hulk, a Mack, and a new hauler for my alt.
No welfare was required.
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Bal'Ayle
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Posted - 2009.07.11 14:26:00 -
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yeah the salary idea is a nice one, but would work better if you recieve a salary from npc corps when you run missions for them as opposed to rewards to encourage more people to play in plyer corps.
welfare is pointless on a game where you can just use an ibis and nick somones mission loot, sell the part for 4-5k+ buy yourself a cheap mining laser, hey presto thats all the items you need to make cash, OR if your realy skint, make a new character and send the newbi modules to your active char with the 50k cash the new one starts wih and youl be fine =]
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Hesod Adee
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.11 21:09:00 -
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I think we already receive a fixed salary. Problem is it is the exact amount we need to pay for fuel and food.
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ShadowGod56
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Posted - 2009.07.11 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Valandril
Originally by: voogru
Common, welfare in a video games? What's next? Make rich players pay taxes that go to poor players?
****ing communists are everywhere i tell you.
whats wrong with communism?
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Valandril
Caldari
Ex-Mortis
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Posted - 2009.07.11 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowGod56
Originally by: Valandril
Originally by: voogru
Common, welfare in a video games? What's next? Make rich players pay taxes that go to poor players?
****ing communists are everywhere i tell you.
whats wrong with communism?
That it sucks ?
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Illectroculus Defined
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Posted - 2009.07.12 03:51:00 -
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If you think about it, everything in Eve has been built starting out with only rookie ships, back on day one the only people with anything better would have been devs. To get the first frigate someone had to make enough cash to buy the BPO and then mine material for it. Meanwhile other people were buying bpo's for modules etc etc.
The only ships sold by npcs were shuttles (if I understand things correctly)
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Ellena Manim
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Posted - 2009.07.12 04:15:00 -
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o0
How could A player older then 6 months lose everything
Say I'm stupid, sell all my previous ship to get a shiny new BS and fit it. Of course, I get blown the 1st day I fly it. Help Help, I have no cash?
Heck. You have a corp?
You sureeelllyyy have a few module somewhere collecting dust that can buy you a frigate (back to lvl one you go)
Dock and get a rocky ship.
Trade (how to turn 50k into a Billion in a month)
Scam (not really nice, but hey, isk is isk)
No welfare check No No No.
Not to mention the number you gave were .. jokes. At 30m sp anyone but the purest in industrialist can take a ship in a 0.0 belt/lvl 4 mish and do that sum in a few minutes.
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.07.12 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Illectroculus Defined
If you think about it, everything in Eve has been built starting out with only rookie ships, back on day one the only people with anything better would have been devs. To get the first frigate someone had to make enough cash to buy the BPO and then mine material for it. Meanwhile other people were buying bpo's for modules etc etc.
The only ships sold by npcs were shuttles (if I understand things correctly)
Shuttles weren't even in the game at the start
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
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Stealthbug
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Posted - 2009.07.12 04:29:00 -
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this is a bad idea.
it's would be injecting too much money into a game that already lacks money sinks.
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Xorth Adimus
Caldari
The Perfect Storm
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.07.12 09:53:00 -
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Free T2 fitted rifter when I die please..
Free isk.. terrible idea.. learn to play, if you end up with no isk just quit eve, seriously it'll be better for you!
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.07.12 11:01:00 -
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This is a bad idea, but I have to be honest, I'm not sure I would even notice the 4 mil.
Regards
Mag's |
Jin Labarre
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Posted - 2009.07.12 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Salpad
This way, if a player loses everything, and cannot afford to buy even a frigate, and can't get anyone to loan him the ISK, he can wait a month and be able to buy at least a low-end (tier 1) frigate, so he can start earning ISK again.
What do you say?
Useless and utterly stupid concept.
If I was completely broke with no money left whatsoever and not a single asset anywhere left in my hangars, I would still have a velator for free, with which I could earn a frigate in about an hour. Then I'd have a frigate, with which I could earn a cruiser in about an hour. A few hours more and I'd be back in whatever subcapital ship I'd like to fly.
If you are really desperate, go to faction space where you have not run the 10-mission tutorial yet and do that. Gives you enough stuff and ships to get going again.
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DXDIDNTDOIT
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Posted - 2009.07.17 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri
Pod-pilot welfare checks?? Ugh.. get a job!
But I need isk for my grape juice!
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.07.17 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Salpad
What do you say?
It is too liberal. The next player comes along and asks for health care, housing benefits and a pension.
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Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.07.17 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Valandril
Originally by: voogru
Common, welfare in a video games? What's next? Make rich players pay taxes that go to poor players?
****ing communists are everywhere i tell you.
The fighting republicans are looking into this problem, but we can use more help. Join our chat channel -gop- to report any communists you see in-game.
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Jint Hikaru
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.07.17 16:30:00 -
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Quote:
I still stand by my idea, though.
I wouldn't if i were you, it Stinks! I would stand waaaaay the hell down the street from your idea! 
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Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager
"I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!"
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Flapkonijn
Caldari
EXPLORERS ELITE
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Posted - 2009.07.17 16:48:00 -
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Sorry have to agree... its a bad idea.
EvE benefit claimers... 
Not a good idea Noob ships are good enough to get you back into game after  isk losses.
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