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Ninja Panda
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Posted - 2004.09.27 09:15:00 -
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Why does, for instance the Rupture one mention Minmatar Cruiser level bonuses but no mention of Race Bonus whereas the Stabber one has completely the opposite and mentions Race but no mention of Cruiser bonuses ???
Anyway 6 days and I can fly Minmatar ones , w00t
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Ninja Panda
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Posted - 2004.09.27 09:15:00 -
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Why does, for instance the Rupture one mention Minmatar Cruiser level bonuses but no mention of Race Bonus whereas the Stabber one has completely the opposite and mentions Race but no mention of Cruiser bonuses ???
Anyway 6 days and I can fly Minmatar ones , w00t
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.09.27 09:30:00 -
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Why not both lol ;/
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.09.27 09:30:00 -
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Why not both lol ;/
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2004.09.27 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: Harry Voyager on 27/09/2004 09:53:35
The "race" bonus is the bonus inherited from the base cruiser.
Basically "race" and "cruiser" can be used interchangeably here.
Personally, I prefer the usage of "cruiser" to describe the bonuses, as it more appropriately indicates that the bonuses have been drawn from the ship it was based off of, rather than the race the pilot is. Yes there are people who have gotten confused over that.
Harry Voyager
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2004.09.27 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: Harry Voyager on 27/09/2004 09:53:35
The "race" bonus is the bonus inherited from the base cruiser.
Basically "race" and "cruiser" can be used interchangeably here.
Personally, I prefer the usage of "cruiser" to describe the bonuses, as it more appropriately indicates that the bonuses have been drawn from the ship it was based off of, rather than the race the pilot is. Yes there are people who have gotten confused over that.
Harry Voyager
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.27 10:04:00 -
[67]
 Originally by: Selim
Diemos is a friggin insane one. I suggest its looked at...
Also:
I notice that the minmatar and amarr ones have only 10 sensor strength, the gallente have 12, and the caldari have 14, with no apparent drawbacks. This isnt very fair. 
Right now it looks like:
Caldari have good hitpoints, super range, great sensor strength, great CPU, decent powergrid. The only apparent drawbacks are its slightly higher sig radius and lower speed.
Amarr have super cap, good hitpoints, great powergrid.
Gallente have good cap, good hitpoints, good CPU, good powergrid, good sensor strength, good range.
Minmatar have just about sucky everything except for speed and *slightly* lower signature radius, and ok powergrid.
I'm honestly sick of all the good stuff Caldari and Gallente get. It ties in completely with the fact that there are more Caldari than any other race, and Gallente are not far behind.
Maybe if a little extra speed actually mattered... the Vagabond is faster than the others but if it uses a mwd its already low cap goes to hell, while the already uber Diemos is going to wipe the floor.
I'm not even talking about projectiles. Minmatar ships are inferior to the others in every way except speed, and even then, they're only slightly faster than the others, giving no noticeable benefits. They've got poor CPU, capacitor, total hitpoints, sensor strength, and not enough powergrid. They sure dont have the damage potential to make up for all this, either.
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Guess I'll just buy a Diemos like everyone else.
caldaris have much worser targetting time
thats thy sacrfice for thy good range and high sensor strength
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.27 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
Diemos is a friggin insane one. I suggest its looked at...
Also:
I notice that the minmatar and amarr ones have only 10 sensor strength, the gallente have 12, and the caldari have 14, with no apparent drawbacks. This isnt very fair.
Right now it looks like:
Caldari have good hitpoints, super range, great sensor strength, great CPU, decent powergrid. The only apparent drawbacks are its slightly higher sig radius and lower speed.
Amarr have super cap, good hitpoints, great powergrid.
Gallente have good cap, good hitpoints, good CPU, good powergrid, good sensor strength, good range.
Minmatar have just about sucky everything except for speed and *slightly* lower signature radius, and ok powergrid.
I'm honestly sick of all the good stuff Caldari and Gallente get. It ties in completely with the fact that there are more Caldari than any other race, and Gallente are not far behind.
Maybe if a little extra speed actually mattered... the Vagabond is faster than the others but if it uses a mwd its already low cap goes to hell, while the already uber Diemos is going to wipe the floor.
I'm not even talking about projectiles. Minmatar ships are inferior to the others in every way except speed, and even then, they're only slightly faster than the others, giving no noticeable benefits. They've got poor CPU, capacitor, total hitpoints, sensor strength, and not enough powergrid. They sure dont have the damage potential to make up for all this, either.
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Guess I'll just buy a Diemos like everyone else.
caldaris have much worser targetting time
thats thy sacrfice for thy good range and high sensor strength
Wanna fly with me?
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Ninja Panda
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Posted - 2004.09.27 10:04:00 -
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Edited by: Ninja Panda on 27/09/2004 10:13:36
Harry I think perhaps you misunderstand my issue
Race and Cruiser bonus are not related as Cruiser bonus is being taken from .....well err current cruiser bonus ie Rupture, Moa etc but then you have 2 new bonuses of Race (which is totally misleading and crap because it doesnt matter what race your character is ...although it should) and Heavy Assualt Cruiser bonus
Half of those ships listed do not inform you what their race bonus is.
Ie look at Munin and Vagabond ....one has Minmatar Cruiser and Role bonuses and the otehr has Race and Heavy Assault Skill bonuses. Kinda hard to make choices based on this data ...guess it will get fixed before release though
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Ninja Panda
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Posted - 2004.09.27 10:04:00 -
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Edited by: Ninja Panda on 27/09/2004 10:13:36
Harry I think perhaps you misunderstand my issue
Race and Cruiser bonus are not related as Cruiser bonus is being taken from .....well err current cruiser bonus ie Rupture, Moa etc but then you have 2 new bonuses of Race (which is totally misleading and crap because it doesnt matter what race your character is ...although it should) and Heavy Assualt Cruiser bonus
Half of those ships listed do not inform you what their race bonus is.
Ie look at Munin and Vagabond ....one has Minmatar Cruiser and Role bonuses and the otehr has Race and Heavy Assault Skill bonuses. Kinda hard to make choices based on this data ...guess it will get fixed before release though
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.09.27 10:31:00 -
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These all look cool as f*** but will cost a bomb and take months to train for 
Question, wheres the Tech2 Celestis and Arbitrator got too?? My 2 fav ships bar the new Amarr Destroyer and they still aint shown 
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.09.27 10:31:00 -
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These all look cool as f*** but will cost a bomb and take months to train for
Question, wheres the Tech2 Celestis and Arbitrator got too?? My 2 fav ships bar the new Amarr Destroyer and they still aint shown
Director of Empire Ops and Chief Carebear |
Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.27 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cadman Weyland
These all look cool as f*** but will cost a bomb and take months to train for
Question, wheres the Tech2 Celestis and Arbitrator got too?? My 2 fav ships bar the new Amarr Destroyer and they still aint shown
same for tech2 bb
i will wait till i see all the new cruisers till i decide which im going to train
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.27 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cadman Weyland
These all look cool as f*** but will cost a bomb and take months to train for
Question, wheres the Tech2 Celestis and Arbitrator got too?? My 2 fav ships bar the new Amarr Destroyer and they still aint shown
same for tech2 bb
i will wait till i see all the new cruisers till i decide which im going to train
Wanna fly with me?
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Helmut Rul
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Posted - 2004.09.27 11:08:00 -
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Both the Cerebus and the Eagle looks like they will be very fine ships indeed, with bonuses that plays to the strenghts of their respective favored weapons , As for long training times well i for one could actually jump right into one just by training heavy assault ships to level 1 i already got all other skills trained and i have a hard time beliving that i am the only one.
However i fear that they may well end up costing more than a tier 2 battleship
so unless my lazy agent gives me a blueprint (yeah right)i will most likely not use them on tranquility, Hopefully we will be able to test them on the shiva test server.
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Helmut Rul
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Posted - 2004.09.27 11:08:00 -
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Both the Cerebus and the Eagle looks like they will be very fine ships indeed, with bonuses that plays to the strenghts of their respective favored weapons , As for long training times well i for one could actually jump right into one just by training heavy assault ships to level 1 i already got all other skills trained and i have a hard time beliving that i am the only one.
However i fear that they may well end up costing more than a tier 2 battleship
so unless my lazy agent gives me a blueprint (yeah right)i will most likely not use them on tranquility, Hopefully we will be able to test them on the shiva test server.
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Sharkey
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Posted - 2004.09.27 11:21:00 -
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Wow, the Deimos and Ishtar ships look really nice. Looking forward to trying out the Ishtar with my own drone army and some webs/jammers!
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Sharkey
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Posted - 2004.09.27 11:21:00 -
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Wow, the Deimos and Ishtar ships look really nice. Looking forward to trying out the Ishtar with my own drone army and some webs/jammers!
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