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Keenon
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Posted - 2004.09.26 15:14:00 -
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Contrary with popular befief pirating is still very much posible.
These days u heard plp say that pirating in 0.1-0.4 isnt posible anymore. What a bunch rat****.
Any1 with good gunnery skillz can fit a geddon and decimate anything from 150km and have a budy with a indy pick out the loot. Or just get into a raven and tank those things.
0.0 is much easier, all u have to do is find 0.0 systems that border empire space( oh and pls dont tell me about every having instas)another bunch of rat****. Why do u think those mobile warp disrupters were put in game for???
With 3 small ones u can hold any1 coming or going to that gate.
Now ransoming is another thing alltogether, plp like celes apoc(Darth Solo) say that no ramson should be payed(better to die like a man). Cute idea, but what happens when the implants that u have on are worth more then your ship + isk in account??
So no ransoming is not like it used to be, BUT its still have much posible.
So pls enough with the (pirating is not posible) threads.
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Help keep carebear population under control!!!! POD U LATER |
Keenon
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Posted - 2004.09.26 15:14:00 -
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Contrary with popular befief pirating is still very much posible.
These days u heard plp say that pirating in 0.1-0.4 isnt posible anymore. What a bunch rat****.
Any1 with good gunnery skillz can fit a geddon and decimate anything from 150km and have a budy with a indy pick out the loot. Or just get into a raven and tank those things.
0.0 is much easier, all u have to do is find 0.0 systems that border empire space( oh and pls dont tell me about every having instas)another bunch of rat****. Why do u think those mobile warp disrupters were put in game for???
With 3 small ones u can hold any1 coming or going to that gate.
Now ransoming is another thing alltogether, plp like celes apoc(Darth Solo) say that no ramson should be payed(better to die like a man). Cute idea, but what happens when the implants that u have on are worth more then your ship + isk in account??
So no ransoming is not like it used to be, BUT its still have much posible.
So pls enough with the (pirating is not posible) threads.
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Help keep carebear population under control!!!! POD U LATER |
Phios Phane
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Posted - 2004.09.26 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: Phios Phane on 26/09/2004 15:49:26
what about people who cant afford mobile warp disruptors ...
And as we all know the 0.0 systems aint easy to camp by a solo pirate group because someone else will just move you along or blob you 
I would agree that piracy isnt as hard as some people make it out to be, but keenon you are coming from a point of view were you have a large corp + backing from an alliance to support you
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The Cold War, EVE style ...
[ 2004.10.17 10:04:18 ] Crystal DeAngelis
> is cos teh vietkong used littel groups and didnt get any lag |
Phios Phane
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Posted - 2004.09.26 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: Phios Phane on 26/09/2004 15:49:26
what about people who cant afford mobile warp disruptors ...
And as we all know the 0.0 systems aint easy to camp by a solo pirate group because someone else will just move you along or blob you
I would agree that piracy isnt as hard as some people make it out to be, but keenon you are coming from a point of view were you have a large corp + backing from an alliance to support you
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The Cold War, EVE style ...
[ 2004.10.17 10:04:18 ] Crystal DeAngelis
> is cos teh vietkong used littel groups and didnt get any lag |
Keenon
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Posted - 2004.09.26 15:56:00 -
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Tell u the truth, not alot of plp in corp 1 activly pirate-mayby only 20% actully do it.
And curse wont show up if we get blobed
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Keenon
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Posted - 2004.09.26 15:56:00 -
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Tell u the truth, not alot of plp in corp 1 activly pirate-mayby only 20% actully do it.
And curse wont show up if we get blobed
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.09.26 15:57:00 -
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Keenon, I am looking forward to join you...
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.09.26 15:57:00 -
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Keenon, I am looking forward to join you...
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Makeh
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Posted - 2004.09.26 16:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Keenon
Contrary with popular befief pirating is still very much posible.
These days u heard plp say that pirating in 0.1-0.4 isnt posible anymore. What a bunch rat****.
Any1 with good gunnery skillz can fit a geddon and decimate anything from 150km and have a budy with a indy pick out the loot. Or just get into a raven and tank those things.
0.0 is much easier, all u have to do is find 0.0 systems that border empire space( oh and pls dont tell me about every having instas)another bunch of rat****. Why do u think those mobile warp disrupters were put in game for???
With 3 small ones u can hold any1 coming or going to that gate.
Now ransoming is another thing alltogether, plp like celes apoc(Darth Solo) say that no ramson should be payed(better to die like a man). Cute idea, but what happens when the implants that u have on are worth more then your ship + isk in account??
So no ransoming is not like it used to be, BUT its still have much posible.
So pls enough with the (pirating is not posible) threads.
You spelled belief wrong
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QUOTES OF TEH MONTH
Loadmaster > its players like you that makes me want to quit EVE
Masta Killa > I'll insta to agil and get my intie and then come back and pod you |
Makeh
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Posted - 2004.09.26 16:15:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Keenon
Contrary with popular befief pirating is still very much posible.
These days u heard plp say that pirating in 0.1-0.4 isnt posible anymore. What a bunch rat****.
Any1 with good gunnery skillz can fit a geddon and decimate anything from 150km and have a budy with a indy pick out the loot. Or just get into a raven and tank those things.
0.0 is much easier, all u have to do is find 0.0 systems that border empire space( oh and pls dont tell me about every having instas)another bunch of rat****. Why do u think those mobile warp disrupters were put in game for???
With 3 small ones u can hold any1 coming or going to that gate.
Now ransoming is another thing alltogether, plp like celes apoc(Darth Solo) say that no ramson should be payed(better to die like a man). Cute idea, but what happens when the implants that u have on are worth more then your ship + isk in account??
So no ransoming is not like it used to be, BUT its still have much posible.
So pls enough with the (pirating is not posible) threads.
You spelled belief wrong
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QUOTES OF TEH MONTH
Loadmaster > its players like you that makes me want to quit EVE
Masta Killa > I'll insta to agil and get my intie and then come back and pod you |
AI capone
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Posted - 2004.09.26 16:25:00 -
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I'd be interested what setup you need to tank a raven at the gate Keenon, Thanks for the advice in your post btw. |
AI capone
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Posted - 2004.09.26 16:25:00 -
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I'd be interested what setup you need to tank a raven at the gate Keenon, Thanks for the advice in your post btw. |
Jozef Meurtrier
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Posted - 2004.09.26 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Makeh
You spelled belief wrong
Pot, kettle, black?
Atleast he spelled his corp name right.
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Jozef Meurtrier
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Posted - 2004.09.26 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Makeh
You spelled belief wrong
Pot, kettle, black?
Atleast he spelled his corp name right.
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2004.09.26 16:37:00 -
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Hmmm pirating is not dead, however recent patches have made it slightly harder to do so, The jump between 0.5 and 0.4 is too big, the same with the jump to 0.1 - 0.0, At the moment the 1.0 - 0.0 listings dont actually mean anything, I think there needs to be some form of stepping system, e.g. 0.4 has 2 sentry guns that shoot you where ever you go with their current damage, 0.3 as above with slightly less, 0.2 only the same faction npc who controlls the guns will shoot you if you agro'd under their sentry guns. 0.1 only shoots you at the place you agro'd with half damage.
That would fix the pirating in empire etc etc and bring any current pirates out a bit more, atm its not very viable due to the long periods you have to wait between kills. 0.0 you just have to be clever enough to buy mods to stop people :).
Pirating isnt dead, its just difficult 
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2004.09.26 16:37:00 -
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Hmmm pirating is not dead, however recent patches have made it slightly harder to do so, The jump between 0.5 and 0.4 is too big, the same with the jump to 0.1 - 0.0, At the moment the 1.0 - 0.0 listings dont actually mean anything, I think there needs to be some form of stepping system, e.g. 0.4 has 2 sentry guns that shoot you where ever you go with their current damage, 0.3 as above with slightly less, 0.2 only the same faction npc who controlls the guns will shoot you if you agro'd under their sentry guns. 0.1 only shoots you at the place you agro'd with half damage.
That would fix the pirating in empire etc etc and bring any current pirates out a bit more, atm its not very viable due to the long periods you have to wait between kills. 0.0 you just have to be clever enough to buy mods to stop people :).
Pirating isnt dead, its just difficult
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K4rls 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Republic Fleet Testing Facilities, wrecking for 1395.9 damage
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Makeh
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Posted - 2004.09.26 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jozef Meurtrier
Originally by: Makeh
You spelled belief wrong
Pot, kettle, black?
Atleast he spelled his corp name right.
Actually he didnt spell his corp name CUZ he isnt CEO of corp1 duh
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QUOTES OF TEH MONTH
Loadmaster > its players like you that makes me want to quit EVE
Masta Killa > I'll insta to agil and get my intie and then come back and pod you |
Makeh
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Posted - 2004.09.26 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jozef Meurtrier
Originally by: Makeh
You spelled belief wrong
Pot, kettle, black?
Atleast he spelled his corp name right.
Actually he didnt spell his corp name CUZ he isnt CEO of corp1 duh
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QUOTES OF TEH MONTH
Loadmaster > its players like you that makes me want to quit EVE
Masta Killa > I'll insta to agil and get my intie and then come back and pod you |
Ebil Pirate
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Posted - 2004.09.26 18:02:00 -
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hey i cant afford a geddon nor a tanked raven.
i cant afford warpdistruptors. all the good spots are taken.
you get your ass in a crusier and try to pirate ALONE
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Ebil pirate has no fear
becuz she has lots of beer. |
Ebil Pirate
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Posted - 2004.09.26 18:02:00 -
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hey i cant afford a geddon nor a tanked raven.
i cant afford warpdistruptors. all the good spots are taken.
you get your ass in a crusier and try to pirate ALONE
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Ebil pirate has no fear
becuz she has lots of beer. |
Sally
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Posted - 2004.09.26 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ebil Pirate
hey i cant afford a geddon nor a tanked raven.
i cant afford warpdistruptors. all the good spots are taken.
you get your ass in a crusier and try to pirate ALONE
Once upon a time the so called Space Invaders were roaming the sky. They were skilled and feared Blackbird pilots with secret setups. They pirated whenever they could and destroyed fleets five time as big as theirs.
Then somehow, the universe got carebeared, the sensor dampeners became a very popular module and I don't know what happened then, but the way of the Blackbird pilot moving around in 0.0 belts to extort someone is gone.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.09.26 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ebil Pirate
hey i cant afford a geddon nor a tanked raven.
i cant afford warpdistruptors. all the good spots are taken.
you get your ass in a crusier and try to pirate ALONE
Once upon a time the so called Space Invaders were roaming the sky. They were skilled and feared Blackbird pilots with secret setups. They pirated whenever they could and destroyed fleets five time as big as theirs.
Then somehow, the universe got carebeared, the sensor dampeners became a very popular module and I don't know what happened then, but the way of the Blackbird pilot moving around in 0.0 belts to extort someone is gone.
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Stories: #1
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.26 18:46:00 -
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think people stopped using BB when thy got slower
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.26 18:46:00 -
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think people stopped using BB when thy got slower
Wanna fly with me?
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.09.26 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
think people stopped using BB when thy got slower
Nah, someone introduced a stacking penalty. Sensor dampeners became obsolete in the 3 x Sensor Dampener, 2 x Web, 1 x Warp Jammer BB setup.
People started use MWDs and a lot of WCSs.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.09.26 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
think people stopped using BB when thy got slower
Nah, someone introduced a stacking penalty. Sensor dampeners became obsolete in the 3 x Sensor Dampener, 2 x Web, 1 x Warp Jammer BB setup.
People started use MWDs and a lot of WCSs.
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Stories: #1
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Keenon
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Posted - 2004.09.26 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ebil Pirate
hey i cant afford a geddon nor a tanked raven.
i cant afford warpdistruptors. all the good spots are taken.
you get your ass in a crusier and try to pirate ALONE
i do pirate in a bb or rax too, but i see uv been playing the game for awhile-y dont u have a bs??
y dont u join a pirate corp and they will hlp u get isk to get into a bs
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Keenon
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Posted - 2004.09.26 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ebil Pirate
hey i cant afford a geddon nor a tanked raven.
i cant afford warpdistruptors. all the good spots are taken.
you get your ass in a crusier and try to pirate ALONE
i do pirate in a bb or rax too, but i see uv been playing the game for awhile-y dont u have a bs??
y dont u join a pirate corp and they will hlp u get isk to get into a bs
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Help keep carebear population under control!!!! POD U LATER |
Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.09.26 20:01:00 -
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I think pirating should be made more difficult and challenging.
Instead ccp try to make pirating in empire as boring as mining.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.09.26 20:01:00 -
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I think pirating should be made more difficult and challenging.
Instead ccp try to make pirating in empire as boring as mining.
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Brazzahrn Stroh
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Posted - 2004.09.26 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Keenon
Contrary with popular befief pirating is still very much posible.
These days u heard plp say that pirating in 0.1-0.4 isnt posible anymore. What a bunch rat****.
Any1 with good gunnery skillz can fit a geddon and decimate anything from 150km and have a budy with a indy pick out the loot. Or just get into a raven and tank those things.
0.0 is much easier, all u have to do is find 0.0 systems that border empire space( oh and pls dont tell me about every having instas)another bunch of rat****. Why do u think those mobile warp disrupters were put in game for???
With 3 small ones u can hold any1 coming or going to that gate.
Now ransoming is another thing alltogether, plp like celes apoc(Darth Solo) say that no ramson should be payed(better to die like a man). Cute idea, but what happens when the implants that u have on are worth more then your ship + isk in account??
So no ransoming is not like it used to be, BUT its still have much posible.
So pls enough with the (pirating is not posible) threads.
Agreed. Even though it has become harder, it's still very much possible to do. 
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Brazzahrn Stroh
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Posted - 2004.09.26 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Keenon
Contrary with popular befief pirating is still very much posible.
These days u heard plp say that pirating in 0.1-0.4 isnt posible anymore. What a bunch rat****.
Any1 with good gunnery skillz can fit a geddon and decimate anything from 150km and have a budy with a indy pick out the loot. Or just get into a raven and tank those things.
0.0 is much easier, all u have to do is find 0.0 systems that border empire space( oh and pls dont tell me about every having instas)another bunch of rat****. Why do u think those mobile warp disrupters were put in game for???
With 3 small ones u can hold any1 coming or going to that gate.
Now ransoming is another thing alltogether, plp like celes apoc(Darth Solo) say that no ramson should be payed(better to die like a man). Cute idea, but what happens when the implants that u have on are worth more then your ship + isk in account??
So no ransoming is not like it used to be, BUT its still have much posible.
So pls enough with the (pirating is not posible) threads.
Agreed. Even though it has become harder, it's still very much possible to do.
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.09.26 22:10:00 -
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Meh I got over 80 solo kills in low sec 0.4 to 0.0 space in just two weeks (and I don't play that much). Granted for 70% of them I used a Rax and the other 30% was split between my Domi, Scorp and BB.
I tried to ransome pilots but most choose to die.
Don't tell me that you can't make ISK doing this as I am now quite rich from all these kills. Plus the 0.0 BS kills I am having to do to get me back to Empire is making me a lot of ISK. I do this in my NPC setup Scorp (for those that think the Scorp can' NPC).
Bosie.
http://bosie.proboards40.com/
http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.09.26 22:10:00 -
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Meh I got over 80 solo kills in low sec 0.4 to 0.0 space in just two weeks (and I don't play that much). Granted for 70% of them I used a Rax and the other 30% was split between my Domi, Scorp and BB.
I tried to ransome pilots but most choose to die.
Don't tell me that you can't make ISK doing this as I am now quite rich from all these kills. Plus the 0.0 BS kills I am having to do to get me back to Empire is making me a lot of ISK. I do this in my NPC setup Scorp (for those that think the Scorp can' NPC).
Bosie.
http://bosie.proboards40.com/
http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.09.26 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Keenon
Now ransoming is another thing alltogether, plp like celes apoc(Darth Solo) say that no ramson should be payed(better to die like a man). Cute idea, but what happens when the implants that u have on are worth more then your ship + isk in account??
You shouldn't pay ransom because of this:
they ganked ******
he was npc'n
they warped in scrambled took to structure
demanded 30 mil and he could go
he paid
they killed anyway
he got his pod away
So... lose your ship, or lose your ship and 30m isk and your self-esteem?
I'd just lose the ship. Getting your pod away is easy enough unless you get suprised or freeze.
And yea, piracy is not dead by a long shot. Some people are just getting bored and lazy and bithing about how pirating in Empire is now harder than it used to be. 0.0 piracy is more popular than ever, partly because there are a lot more people out there now.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.09.26 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Keenon
Now ransoming is another thing alltogether, plp like celes apoc(Darth Solo) say that no ramson should be payed(better to die like a man). Cute idea, but what happens when the implants that u have on are worth more then your ship + isk in account??
You shouldn't pay ransom because of this:
they ganked ******
he was npc'n
they warped in scrambled took to structure
demanded 30 mil and he could go
he paid
they killed anyway
he got his pod away
So... lose your ship, or lose your ship and 30m isk and your self-esteem?
I'd just lose the ship. Getting your pod away is easy enough unless you get suprised or freeze.
And yea, piracy is not dead by a long shot. Some people are just getting bored and lazy and bithing about how pirating in Empire is now harder than it used to be. 0.0 piracy is more popular than ever, partly because there are a lot more people out there now.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.27 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jazz Bo
Originally by: Keenon
Now ransoming is another thing alltogether, plp like celes apoc(Darth Solo) say that no ramson should be payed(better to die like a man). Cute idea, but what happens when the implants that u have on are worth more then your ship + isk in account??
You shouldn't pay ransom because of this:
they ganked ******
he was npc'n
they warped in scrambled took to structure
demanded 30 mil and he could go
he paid
they killed anyway
he got his pod away
So... lose your ship, or lose your ship and 30m isk and your self-esteem?
I'd just lose the ship. Getting your pod away is easy enough unless you get suprised or freeze.
And yea, piracy is not dead by a long shot. Some people are just getting bored and lazy and bithing about how pirating in Empire is now harder than it used to be. 0.0 piracy is more popular than ever, partly because there are a lot more people out there now.
eve tends to be laggy when you die, and interceptors have your pod pretty fast, lets say about 30% of your victims get podkilled
we never killed a guy who payed his debt, but since most people just try to call friends (what a stupid mistake when thy have implants) i just started to kill them all
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.27 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jazz Bo
Originally by: Keenon
Now ransoming is another thing alltogether, plp like celes apoc(Darth Solo) say that no ramson should be payed(better to die like a man). Cute idea, but what happens when the implants that u have on are worth more then your ship + isk in account??
You shouldn't pay ransom because of this:
they ganked ******
he was npc'n
they warped in scrambled took to structure
demanded 30 mil and he could go
he paid
they killed anyway
he got his pod away
So... lose your ship, or lose your ship and 30m isk and your self-esteem?
I'd just lose the ship. Getting your pod away is easy enough unless you get suprised or freeze.
And yea, piracy is not dead by a long shot. Some people are just getting bored and lazy and bithing about how pirating in Empire is now harder than it used to be. 0.0 piracy is more popular than ever, partly because there are a lot more people out there now.
eve tends to be laggy when you die, and interceptors have your pod pretty fast, lets say about 30% of your victims get podkilled
we never killed a guy who payed his debt, but since most people just try to call friends (what a stupid mistake when thy have implants) i just started to kill them all
Wanna fly with me?
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Nerhtal Al'Thali
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Posted - 2004.09.27 06:25:00 -
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My pet hate in this game is the lag caused in transition from ship to pod - bloody well hate it as it is the only thing i fear that will podkill me.
Managed to avoid getting podkilled except when ccp decided that i SHOULD be hehe :)
*Starts looking for some wood to touch*
"Game Experience And Dev Opinions May Change With The Time Of Day During Online Play"
Oveur
"First in, last out"
Bridgeburner Motto |
Nerhtal Al'Thali
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Posted - 2004.09.27 06:25:00 -
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My pet hate in this game is the lag caused in transition from ship to pod - bloody well hate it as it is the only thing i fear that will podkill me.
Managed to avoid getting podkilled except when ccp decided that i SHOULD be hehe :)
*Starts looking for some wood to touch*
"Game Experience And Dev Opinions May Change With The Time Of Day During Online Play"
Oveur
"First in, last out"
Bridgeburner Motto |
markol
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Posted - 2004.09.27 15:32:00 -
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The only place to pirate solo is in low sec empire. In 0.0 you will get ganked by 2 BS coming to take your choke point or to get rid of you out of a system. That and your target density is tiny out there.
I have a decent amount of kills in low sec over the last few weeks. All were done in a rax. I have only managed to get ransom out of two people, ever. I have more than 50 kill mails. These are all the people that have not paid ransom when asked, or called for help.
When I pirate in a BS, I guarantee pod kill. Fitting a large SB that you trigger as soon as you see a pod appear will make you get a corpse each and every time. I have never failed.
Being quick on the trigger even with a rax is prety simple. Try to lock as soon as pod appears. Chances are that the pod experiences massive lag, and you get the 7 seconds you need to lock him. Good thing warp scramblers work instantly.
I have yet to make any money from piracy. The only thing that it has gained me so far has been the kill mails and the corpses and loss of 2x fitted rax.
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markol
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Posted - 2004.09.27 15:32:00 -
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The only place to pirate solo is in low sec empire. In 0.0 you will get ganked by 2 BS coming to take your choke point or to get rid of you out of a system. That and your target density is tiny out there.
I have a decent amount of kills in low sec over the last few weeks. All were done in a rax. I have only managed to get ransom out of two people, ever. I have more than 50 kill mails. These are all the people that have not paid ransom when asked, or called for help.
When I pirate in a BS, I guarantee pod kill. Fitting a large SB that you trigger as soon as you see a pod appear will make you get a corpse each and every time. I have never failed.
Being quick on the trigger even with a rax is prety simple. Try to lock as soon as pod appears. Chances are that the pod experiences massive lag, and you get the 7 seconds you need to lock him. Good thing warp scramblers work instantly.
I have yet to make any money from piracy. The only thing that it has gained me so far has been the kill mails and the corpses and loss of 2x fitted rax.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.09.27 21:25:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Jazz Bo
Originally by: Keenon
Now ransoming is another thing alltogether, plp like celes apoc(Darth Solo) say that no ramson should be payed(better to die like a man). Cute idea, but what happens when the implants that u have on are worth more then your ship + isk in account??
You shouldn't pay ransom because of this:
they ganked ******
he was npc'n
they warped in scrambled took to structure
demanded 30 mil and he could go
he paid
they killed anyway
he got his pod away
So... lose your ship, or lose your ship and 30m isk and your self-esteem?
I'd just lose the ship. Getting your pod away is easy enough unless you get suprised or freeze.
And yea, piracy is not dead by a long shot. Some people are just getting bored and lazy and bithing about how pirating in Empire is now harder than it used to be. 0.0 piracy is more popular than ever, partly because there are a lot more people out there now.
Which pirates have been doin this?
Chuck out some names of the villans and the victims.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.09.27 21:25:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Jazz Bo
Originally by: Keenon
Now ransoming is another thing alltogether, plp like celes apoc(Darth Solo) say that no ramson should be payed(better to die like a man). Cute idea, but what happens when the implants that u have on are worth more then your ship + isk in account??
You shouldn't pay ransom because of this:
they ganked ******
he was npc'n
they warped in scrambled took to structure
demanded 30 mil and he could go
he paid
they killed anyway
he got his pod away
So... lose your ship, or lose your ship and 30m isk and your self-esteem?
I'd just lose the ship. Getting your pod away is easy enough unless you get suprised or freeze.
And yea, piracy is not dead by a long shot. Some people are just getting bored and lazy and bithing about how pirating in Empire is now harder than it used to be. 0.0 piracy is more popular than ever, partly because there are a lot more people out there now.
Which pirates have been doin this?
Chuck out some names of the villans and the victims.
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.09.28 01:20:00 -
[45]
Dear Keenon -
When do I get that 1 v 1?
I'm in Obe...
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
Marichek
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Posted - 2004.09.28 01:20:00 -
[46]
Dear Keenon -
When do I get that 1 v 1?
I'm in Obe...
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
Keenon
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Posted - 2004.09.28 04:04:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Marichek
Dear Keenon -
When do I get that 1 v 1?
I'm in Obe...
anytime
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Help keep carebear population under control!!!! POD U LATER |
Keenon
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Posted - 2004.09.28 04:04:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Marichek
Dear Keenon -
When do I get that 1 v 1?
I'm in Obe...
anytime
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Help keep carebear population under control!!!! POD U LATER |
Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.28 13:29:00 -
[49]
The original post explains how ganking is still possible.
No-one argued that, but ganking is not piracy.
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Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.28 13:29:00 -
[50]
The original post explains how ganking is still possible.
No-one argued that, but ganking is not piracy.
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Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Keenon
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Posted - 2004.09.28 18:45:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Avon
The original post explains how ganking is still possible.
No-one argued that, but ganking is not piracy.
ur spliting hairs m8
piracy= atacking weaker targets for the purpose of profit
now this can be done in the form of Ransoming or Destroying the traget to get the cargo.
ganking- is not really a term. what i mean is =detroying targets for no other reason but that u can.(detruction for its own sake)
now i never said anything about ganking in my post
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Help keep carebear population under control!!!! POD U LATER |
Keenon
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Posted - 2004.09.28 18:45:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Avon
The original post explains how ganking is still possible.
No-one argued that, but ganking is not piracy.
ur spliting hairs m8
piracy= atacking weaker targets for the purpose of profit
now this can be done in the form of Ransoming or Destroying the traget to get the cargo.
ganking- is not really a term. what i mean is =detroying targets for no other reason but that u can.(detruction for its own sake)
now i never said anything about ganking in my post
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Help keep carebear population under control!!!! POD U LATER |
Baconjoe
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Posted - 2004.09.28 20:24:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Dezzyb0y
Hmmm pirating is not dead, however recent patches have made it slightly harder to do so, The jump between 0.5 and 0.4 is too big, the same with the jump to 0.1 - 0.0, At the moment the 1.0 - 0.0 listings dont actually mean anything, I think there needs to be some form of stepping system, e.g. 0.4 has 2 sentry guns that shoot you where ever you go with their current damage, 0.3 as above with slightly less, 0.2 only the same faction npc who controlls the guns will shoot you if you agro'd under their sentry guns. 0.1 only shoots you at the place you agro'd with half damage.
That would fix the pirating in empire etc etc and bring any current pirates out a bit more, atm its not very viable due to the long periods you have to wait between kills. 0.0 you just have to be clever enough to buy mods to stop people :).
Pirating isnt dead, its just difficult
Dezzyb0y your in mass?? see you on the battlefield bud 
We are cursed men
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Baconjoe
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Posted - 2004.09.28 20:24:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Dezzyb0y
Hmmm pirating is not dead, however recent patches have made it slightly harder to do so, The jump between 0.5 and 0.4 is too big, the same with the jump to 0.1 - 0.0, At the moment the 1.0 - 0.0 listings dont actually mean anything, I think there needs to be some form of stepping system, e.g. 0.4 has 2 sentry guns that shoot you where ever you go with their current damage, 0.3 as above with slightly less, 0.2 only the same faction npc who controlls the guns will shoot you if you agro'd under their sentry guns. 0.1 only shoots you at the place you agro'd with half damage.
That would fix the pirating in empire etc etc and bring any current pirates out a bit more, atm its not very viable due to the long periods you have to wait between kills. 0.0 you just have to be clever enough to buy mods to stop people :).
Pirating isnt dead, its just difficult
Dezzyb0y your in mass??see you on the battlefield bud
We are cursed men
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Dayan Rabalyn
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Posted - 2004.09.28 23:12:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Nerhtal Al'Thali
My pet hate in this game is the lag caused in transition from ship to pod - bloody well hate it as it is the only thing i fear that will podkill me.
I know compared to a lot of you I am a n00b, but i'm trying really hard at the moment to get my skills up to I can jump into a bs asap and cause some damage. I was doing really well in a new ship that someone in my corp bought for me so I could get some more money together, I had it for a total of.... 4 days I think, and all thanks to lag I lost it. Luckily I didn't get pod killed and being a bit of a n00b i had no implants to lose and one of the first things I did was buy a clone that would sure as hell cover loss of skill points, but needless to say, it's no fun sitting there waiting for your ship to warp, it gets stuck in lag and then the next thing you see moving on the screen are the pieces of your ship... sucks really....
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Dayan Rabalyn
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Posted - 2004.09.28 23:12:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Nerhtal Al'Thali
My pet hate in this game is the lag caused in transition from ship to pod - bloody well hate it as it is the only thing i fear that will podkill me.
I know compared to a lot of you I am a n00b, but i'm trying really hard at the moment to get my skills up to I can jump into a bs asap and cause some damage. I was doing really well in a new ship that someone in my corp bought for me so I could get some more money together, I had it for a total of.... 4 days I think, and all thanks to lag I lost it. Luckily I didn't get pod killed and being a bit of a n00b i had no implants to lose and one of the first things I did was buy a clone that would sure as hell cover loss of skill points, but needless to say, it's no fun sitting there waiting for your ship to warp, it gets stuck in lag and then the next thing you see moving on the screen are the pieces of your ship... sucks really....
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Devineflid
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Posted - 2004.09.28 23:59:00 -
[57]
i don't understand why people don't just pay ransoms, i really don't, so long as you can trust the pirates, (i wouldn't pay somebody known for killing those who pay, but then again, that isn't a good way to go about ransoming!)then there is no point in not, unless you can get free T2 stuff and all your named mods you have spares of.
if you want to work alone, you will undoubtedly have a hard time, this is a game based around team play, to have one aspect of a ship, you often have to trade off for another, and if you do have a group, post a few tacklers on the systems gate, and then let the guy call for friends, WOOT more ransoms just come to you 
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Have you ever wondered who was responsible for the "do not attempt to stop chain with hand or genitals" type notes on things? well it was me, or at le |
Devineflid
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Posted - 2004.09.28 23:59:00 -
[58]
i don't understand why people don't just pay ransoms, i really don't, so long as you can trust the pirates, (i wouldn't pay somebody known for killing those who pay, but then again, that isn't a good way to go about ransoming!)then there is no point in not, unless you can get free T2 stuff and all your named mods you have spares of.
if you want to work alone, you will undoubtedly have a hard time, this is a game based around team play, to have one aspect of a ship, you often have to trade off for another, and if you do have a group, post a few tacklers on the systems gate, and then let the guy call for friends, WOOT more ransoms just come to you
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Have you ever wondered who was responsible for the "do not attempt to stop chain with hand or genitals" type notes on things? well it was me, or at le |
Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.29 09:26:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Keenon
Originally by: Avon
The original post explains how ganking is still possible.
No-one argued that, but ganking is not piracy.
ur spliting hairs m8
piracy= atacking weaker targets for the purpose of profit
now this can be done in the form of Ransoming or Destroying the traget to get the cargo.
ganking- is not really a term. what i mean is =detroying targets for no other reason but that u can.(detruction for its own sake)
now i never said anything about ganking in my post
Piracy, the ransoming type, in empire has pretty much died out, it just isn't really worth the effort anymore.
Piracy, the ganking type, it alive and well - if anything it is thriving more since ransoming became so hard.
For the victim, both are bad - but at least ransoming is a 'game experience' in which they are involved. Generally they feel that it is 'fairer' than being ganked, and I think it is certainly a more rewarding game experience.
The 'Piracy is dead' threads mostly concern themselves with 'ransoming' and 'old-school' piracy. You have explained how the 'ganking' method is still effective. My point is that no-one argued that.
Re-read the threads, comprehend, understand, and then (and only then) comment.
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Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.29 09:26:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Keenon
Originally by: Avon
The original post explains how ganking is still possible.
No-one argued that, but ganking is not piracy.
ur spliting hairs m8
piracy= atacking weaker targets for the purpose of profit
now this can be done in the form of Ransoming or Destroying the traget to get the cargo.
ganking- is not really a term. what i mean is =detroying targets for no other reason but that u can.(detruction for its own sake)
now i never said anything about ganking in my post
Piracy, the ransoming type, in empire has pretty much died out, it just isn't really worth the effort anymore.
Piracy, the ganking type, it alive and well - if anything it is thriving more since ransoming became so hard.
For the victim, both are bad - but at least ransoming is a 'game experience' in which they are involved. Generally they feel that it is 'fairer' than being ganked, and I think it is certainly a more rewarding game experience.
The 'Piracy is dead' threads mostly concern themselves with 'ransoming' and 'old-school' piracy. You have explained how the 'ganking' method is still effective. My point is that no-one argued that.
Re-read the threads, comprehend, understand, and then (and only then) comment.
______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Rytir
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Posted - 2004.09.29 10:02:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Rytir on 29/09/2004 10:04:22
now pirates are stealing sigs.
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Rytir
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Posted - 2004.09.29 10:02:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Rytir on 29/09/2004 10:04:22
now pirates are stealing sigs.
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.29 10:35:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Rytir
Edited by: Rytir on 29/09/2004 10:04:22
now pirates are stealing sigs.
Although for for some strange reason, not mine.
How odd.
I can see why someone would want to copy the idea of your sig Rytir, but just ripping it off and pasting on top of your text kinda sucks.
______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.29 10:35:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Rytir
Edited by: Rytir on 29/09/2004 10:04:22
now pirates are stealing sigs.
Although for for some strange reason, not mine.
How odd.
I can see why someone would want to copy the idea of your sig Rytir, but just ripping it off and pasting on top of your text kinda sucks.
______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.09.29 13:28:00 -
[65]
Yeah, thats lame Keenon...
I made it for Rytir... not you.
Want to work for me? |
PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.09.29 13:28:00 -
[66]
Yeah, thats lame Keenon...
I made it for Rytir... not you.
Want to work for me? |
Sally
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:45:00 -
[67]
Looks like Keenon got doomheimed.
--
Stories: #1
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:45:00 -
[68]
Looks like Keenon got doomheimed.
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Stories: #1
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Hatepants
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:52:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Rytir
Edited by: Rytir on 29/09/2004 10:04:22
now pirates are stealing sigs.
lol how do i know u didnt steel his steal HIS sig
but anyway that sig dosnt look like like yours anymore, and the head can easily be u or him-lol it could be me
but everything else is dif
Helping to keep Carebear population under control!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Hatepants
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:52:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Rytir
Edited by: Rytir on 29/09/2004 10:04:22
now pirates are stealing sigs.
lol how do i know u didnt steel his steal HIS sig
but anyway that sig dosnt look like like yours anymore, and the head can easily be u or him-lol it could be me
but everything else is dif
Helping to keep Carebear population under control!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Rytir
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Posted - 2004.09.29 16:02:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Rytir on 29/09/2004 16:06:06
Originally by: Hatepants
Originally by: Rytir
Edited by: Rytir on 29/09/2004 10:04:22
now pirates are stealing sigs.
lol how do i know u didnt steel his steal HIS sig
but anyway that sig dosnt look like like yours anymore, and the head can easily be u or him-lol it could be me
but everything else is dif
Originally by: paul...
Yeah, thats lame Keenon...
I made it for Rytir... not you.
need i say more??
Edited due to n00bness
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Rytir
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Posted - 2004.09.29 16:02:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Rytir on 29/09/2004 16:06:06
Originally by: Hatepants
Originally by: Rytir
Edited by: Rytir on 29/09/2004 10:04:22
now pirates are stealing sigs.
lol how do i know u didnt steel his steal HIS sig
but anyway that sig dosnt look like like yours anymore, and the head can easily be u or him-lol it could be me
but everything else is dif
Originally by: paul...
Yeah, thats lame Keenon...
I made it for Rytir... not you.
need i say more??
Edited due to n00bness
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Hatepants
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:00:00 -
[73]
Quote:
need i say more??
Edited due to n00bness
but that sig isnt your anymore-if he took your sig erased your name and reaten his own name then ya u could say (what an ass)
but its a dif sig now-and like i said the head could be anyone
Helping to keep Carebear population under control!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Hatepants
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:00:00 -
[74]
Quote:
need i say more??
Edited due to n00bness
but that sig isnt your anymore-if he took your sig erased your name and reaten his own name then ya u could say (what an ass)
but its a dif sig now-and like i said the head could be anyone
Helping to keep Carebear population under control!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Xiano
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Posted - 2004.09.29 23:07:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Xiano on 29/09/2004 23:09:29
yer but even with that bit pasted on the top he still stole the head and is infact breaching copy right.
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Xiano
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Posted - 2004.09.29 23:07:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Xiano on 29/09/2004 23:09:29
yer but even with that bit pasted on the top he still stole the head and is infact breaching copy right.
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Hatepants
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Posted - 2004.09.29 23:22:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Xiano
Edited by: Xiano on 29/09/2004 23:09:29
yer but even with that bit pasted on the top he still stole the head and is infact breaching copy right.
copy right lol - give me a break, is that sig the property of a company or physical person that filed for copy rights on it
cause if it aint
Helping to keep Carebear population under control!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Hatepants
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Posted - 2004.09.29 23:22:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Xiano
Edited by: Xiano on 29/09/2004 23:09:29
yer but even with that bit pasted on the top he still stole the head and is infact breaching copy right.
copy right lol- give me a break, is that sig the property of a company or physical person that filed for copy rights on it
cause if it aint
Helping to keep Carebear population under control!!!!!!!!!!!! |
PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.09.29 23:55:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Hatepants
Originally by: Xiano
Edited by: Xiano on 29/09/2004 23:09:29
yer but even with that bit pasted on the top he still stole the head and is infact breaching copy right.
copy right lol- give me a break, is that sig the property of a company or physical person that filed for copy rights on it
cause if it aint
Smells like sig envy.
And yes, it was designed by a company and all intellectual property designed by my company is copyrighted by me.
Want to work for me? |
PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.09.29 23:55:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Hatepants
Originally by: Xiano
Edited by: Xiano on 29/09/2004 23:09:29
yer but even with that bit pasted on the top he still stole the head and is infact breaching copy right.
copy right lol- give me a break, is that sig the property of a company or physical person that filed for copy rights on it
cause if it aint
Smells like sig envy.
And yes, it was designed by a company and all intellectual property designed by my company is copyrighted by me.
Want to work for me? |
PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.09.29 23:57:00 -
[81]
Either way, Keenon has gone to the chopper.
Case closed. The pirate died.
Want to work for me? |
PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.09.29 23:57:00 -
[82]
Either way, Keenon has gone to the chopper.
Case closed. The pirate died.
Want to work for me? |
Maric
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Posted - 2004.09.30 11:08:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Devineflid
i don't understand why people don't just pay ransoms,
I pay once, and never again. Month ago I have fight with Moo and Warlord member in a sistem near Torinos. It was 2vs1, I manage to kill Warlord, Moo manege to destroy me. He was smart, I was stupid, he won. I surrender, He ask money, I say "Ok" and pay. Then someone from Warlord corp (belive moo and warlord have NAP) start to scream "You need to pay me too!!". He was not involved in fight in any way exept screaming in local.
I payed once to a man who was better, and see no reason to pay anyone else. Then the Warlord member came with Raven and fire a cruise missile on my pod. What a overkil. Reason? He want a revenge of a fallend friend.
Belive You understand why will never pay again, no mater how valuable cargo have, how expencive ship fly, how rare modules have fit, how many implants I use. When I die, I die and that is only pleasure they get.
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Maric
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Posted - 2004.09.30 11:08:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Devineflid
i don't understand why people don't just pay ransoms,
I pay once, and never again. Month ago I have fight with Moo and Warlord member in a sistem near Torinos. It was 2vs1, I manage to kill Warlord, Moo manege to destroy me. He was smart, I was stupid, he won. I surrender, He ask money, I say "Ok" and pay. Then someone from Warlord corp (belive moo and warlord have NAP) start to scream "You need to pay me too!!". He was not involved in fight in any way exept screaming in local.
I payed once to a man who was better, and see no reason to pay anyone else. Then the Warlord member came with Raven and fire a cruise missile on my pod. What a overkil. Reason? He want a revenge of a fallend friend.
Belive You understand why will never pay again, no mater how valuable cargo have, how expencive ship fly, how rare modules have fit, how many implants I use. When I die, I die and that is only pleasure they get.
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MoLeH
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Posted - 2004.09.30 18:40:00 -
[85]
Edited by: MoLeH on 30/09/2004 18:43:12
Double post :S
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Do you see people in real life whining that their enjoyment was ruined by a shark when they went swimming in dangerous waters? - Viceroy |
MoLeH
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Posted - 2004.09.30 18:40:00 -
[86]
Edited by: MoLeH on 30/09/2004 18:43:12
Double post :S
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Do you see people in real life whining that their enjoyment was ruined by a shark when they went swimming in dangerous waters? - Viceroy |
MoLeH
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Posted - 2004.09.30 18:41:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Hatepants
[
copy right lol- give me a break, is that sig the property of a company or physical person that filed for copy rights on it
cause if it aint
lol isnt it a good job you know what your talking about, the idea of fileing for copyright is merely to make it easier to prove in a court of law, the origianater of a peice of work, music, art, literature and so on automatically gains copyright and if they can proove they made the idea/work first can sue just as easily as if they had gone thru the process of paying for a copyright certificate. but thanks for not knowing what your talking about.
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Do you see people in real life whining that their enjoyment was ruined by a shark when they went swimming in dangerous waters? - Viceroy |
MoLeH
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Posted - 2004.09.30 18:41:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Hatepants
[
copy right lol- give me a break, is that sig the property of a company or physical person that filed for copy rights on it
cause if it aint
lol isnt it a good job you know what your talking about, the idea of fileing for copyright is merely to make it easier to prove in a court of law, the origianater of a peice of work, music, art, literature and so on automatically gains copyright and if they can proove they made the idea/work first can sue just as easily as if they had gone thru the process of paying for a copyright certificate. but thanks for not knowing what your talking about.
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Do you see people in real life whining that their enjoyment was ruined by a shark when they went swimming in dangerous waters? - Viceroy |
Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.09.30 21:24:00 -
[89]
Piracy isn't dying, but the victims that pirates live off of make the pirates job of being a "pirate" a little harder and being a "ganker" a little easier.
I still ransom basically everyone unless I am in a huge rush. Out of the 20 or so people I've ransomed in the past month, only 1 payed, 4 were friendly but didn't pay, 5 of them questioned my mother's morals, and the other 5 questioned my sexual orientation.
I am totally polite when asking for ransoms. I just say, "stop your ship, I want X amount of isk in my wallet in 10 seconds or you lose your ship/implants".
I stick by my word, if you pay me, I'll let you go. If you are an asshat, we'll pod you till the end of time.
Realize that most pirates are barely making a living, and I have yet to know one that actually turns a profit without mining/npc'n. Not having to play the political ****y dance is an added plus. pod everyone!
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.09.30 21:24:00 -
[90]
Piracy isn't dying, but the victims that pirates live off of make the pirates job of being a "pirate" a little harder and being a "ganker" a little easier.
I still ransom basically everyone unless I am in a huge rush. Out of the 20 or so people I've ransomed in the past month, only 1 payed, 4 were friendly but didn't pay, 5 of them questioned my mother's morals, and the other 5 questioned my sexual orientation.
I am totally polite when asking for ransoms. I just say, "stop your ship, I want X amount of isk in my wallet in 10 seconds or you lose your ship/implants".
I stick by my word, if you pay me, I'll let you go. If you are an asshat, we'll pod you till the end of time.
Realize that most pirates are barely making a living, and I have yet to know one that actually turns a profit without mining/npc'n. Not having to play the political ****y dance is an added plus. pod everyone!
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What Aerick has been up to lately.. |
Cavtrooper
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Posted - 2004.10.01 01:49:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Cavtrooper on 01/10/2004 01:51:31
Originally by: Jazz Bo
they ganked ******
he was npc'n
they warped in scrambled took to structure
demanded 30 mil and he could go
he paid
they killed anyway
he got his pod away
Well lets tell the whole story here. As there is more than meets the eye.
AWM corp engaged a tempest in pure blind region. They decided to ransom the pilot and allow him to escape with his ship. After receiving payment and after they had disengaged warp disruptors and weapon systems the pilot fired on them.
Now they posted the chat logs and weapon logs on our forums. I reviewed them and came to the same conculsions. There was 45 seconds between releasing the scramblers him firing on them and them responding and destroying. He stayed there for 45 seconds and launched missiles. We make every attempt to be an honorable people no matter what we are doing. However, they were fired on after they released him, therefore they engaged and destroyed him.
Was it a mistake on the enemy pilots part? Probably, but it was a mistake that he wont make twice. Consider it an education. If you fire on AWM we will attack, if you threaten hostilies on our corp we will attack.
We will defend ourselves.
AWM Homepage, become a #*%^ Flinging Monkey!! |
Cavtrooper
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Posted - 2004.10.01 01:49:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Cavtrooper on 01/10/2004 01:51:31
Originally by: Jazz Bo
they ganked ******
he was npc'n
they warped in scrambled took to structure
demanded 30 mil and he could go
he paid
they killed anyway
he got his pod away
Well lets tell the whole story here. As there is more than meets the eye.
AWM corp engaged a tempest in pure blind region. They decided to ransom the pilot and allow him to escape with his ship. After receiving payment and after they had disengaged warp disruptors and weapon systems the pilot fired on them.
Now they posted the chat logs and weapon logs on our forums. I reviewed them and came to the same conculsions. There was 45 seconds between releasing the scramblers him firing on them and them responding and destroying. He stayed there for 45 seconds and launched missiles. We make every attempt to be an honorable people no matter what we are doing. However, they were fired on after they released him, therefore they engaged and destroyed him.
Was it a mistake on the enemy pilots part? Probably, but it was a mistake that he wont make twice. Consider it an education. If you fire on AWM we will attack, if you threaten hostilies on our corp we will attack.
We will defend ourselves.
AWM Homepage, become a #*%^ Flinging Monkey!! |
PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.10.01 02:58:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Cavtrooper
Well lets tell the whole story here. As there is more than meets the eye.
AWM corp engaged a tempest in pure blind region. They decided to ransom the pilot and allow him to escape with his ship. After receiving payment and after they had disengaged warp disruptors and weapon systems the pilot fired on them.
Now they posted the chat logs and weapon logs on our forums. I reviewed them and came to the same conculsions. There was 45 seconds between releasing the scramblers him firing on them and them responding and destroying. He stayed there for 45 seconds and launched missiles. We make every attempt to be an honorable people no matter what we are doing. However, they were fired on after they released him, therefore they engaged and destroyed him.
Was it a mistake on the enemy pilots part? Probably, but it was a mistake that he wont make twice. Consider it an education. If you fire on AWM we will attack, if you threaten hostilies on our corp we will attack.
We will defend ourselves.
Well, why would you ransom a war enemy in the first place? If you are at war with someone, you kill them. Simple. Demanding ransom is coming very close to the *YARRRR* factor, IMO.
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.10.01 02:58:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Cavtrooper
Well lets tell the whole story here. As there is more than meets the eye.
AWM corp engaged a tempest in pure blind region. They decided to ransom the pilot and allow him to escape with his ship. After receiving payment and after they had disengaged warp disruptors and weapon systems the pilot fired on them.
Now they posted the chat logs and weapon logs on our forums. I reviewed them and came to the same conculsions. There was 45 seconds between releasing the scramblers him firing on them and them responding and destroying. He stayed there for 45 seconds and launched missiles. We make every attempt to be an honorable people no matter what we are doing. However, they were fired on after they released him, therefore they engaged and destroyed him.
Was it a mistake on the enemy pilots part? Probably, but it was a mistake that he wont make twice. Consider it an education. If you fire on AWM we will attack, if you threaten hostilies on our corp we will attack.
We will defend ourselves.
Well, why would you ransom a war enemy in the first place? If you are at war with someone, you kill them. Simple. Demanding ransom is coming very close to the *YARRRR* factor, IMO.
Want to work for me? |
Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.10.02 15:20:00 -
[95]
Originally by: PaulAtreides
Originally by: Cavtrooper
Well lets tell the whole story here. As there is more than meets the eye.
AWM corp engaged a tempest in pure blind region. They decided to ransom the pilot and allow him to escape with his ship. After receiving payment and after they had disengaged warp disruptors and weapon systems the pilot fired on them.
Now they posted the chat logs and weapon logs on our forums. I reviewed them and came to the same conculsions. There was 45 seconds between releasing the scramblers him firing on them and them responding and destroying. He stayed there for 45 seconds and launched missiles. We make every attempt to be an honorable people no matter what we are doing. However, they were fired on after they released him, therefore they engaged and destroyed him.
Was it a mistake on the enemy pilots part? Probably, but it was a mistake that he wont make twice. Consider it an education. If you fire on AWM we will attack, if you threaten hostilies on our corp we will attack.
We will defend ourselves.
Well, why would you ransom a war enemy in the first place? If you are at war with someone, you kill them. Simple. Demanding ransom is coming very close to the *YARRRR* factor, IMO.
Where did he mention war?
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.10.02 15:20:00 -
[96]
Originally by: PaulAtreides
Originally by: Cavtrooper
Well lets tell the whole story here. As there is more than meets the eye.
AWM corp engaged a tempest in pure blind region. They decided to ransom the pilot and allow him to escape with his ship. After receiving payment and after they had disengaged warp disruptors and weapon systems the pilot fired on them.
Now they posted the chat logs and weapon logs on our forums. I reviewed them and came to the same conculsions. There was 45 seconds between releasing the scramblers him firing on them and them responding and destroying. He stayed there for 45 seconds and launched missiles. We make every attempt to be an honorable people no matter what we are doing. However, they were fired on after they released him, therefore they engaged and destroyed him.
Was it a mistake on the enemy pilots part? Probably, but it was a mistake that he wont make twice. Consider it an education. If you fire on AWM we will attack, if you threaten hostilies on our corp we will attack.
We will defend ourselves.
Well, why would you ransom a war enemy in the first place? If you are at war with someone, you kill them. Simple. Demanding ransom is coming very close to the *YARRRR* factor, IMO.
Where did he mention war?
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vanBuskirk
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Posted - 2004.10.09 13:30:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Aerick Dawn
Piracy isn't dying, but the victims that pirates live off of make the pirates job of being a "pirate" a little harder and being a "ganker" a little easier.
I still ransom basically everyone unless I am in a huge rush. Out of the 20 or so people I've ransomed in the past month, only 1 payed, 4 were friendly but didn't pay, 5 of them questioned my mother's morals, and the other 5 questioned my sexual orientation.
I am totally polite when asking for ransoms. I just say, "stop your ship, I want X amount of isk in my wallet in 10 seconds or you lose your ship/implants".
I stick by my word, if you pay me, I'll let you go. If you are an asshat, we'll pod you till the end of time.
Realize that most pirates are barely making a living, and I have yet to know one that actually turns a profit without mining/npc'n. Not having to play the political ****y dance is an added plus. pod everyone!
Ah diddums - you're barely making a living ruining other people's. My heart bleeds for you. If it's that tough, do something else - or preferably quit permanently.
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vanBuskirk
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Posted - 2004.10.09 13:30:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Aerick Dawn
Piracy isn't dying, but the victims that pirates live off of make the pirates job of being a "pirate" a little harder and being a "ganker" a little easier.
I still ransom basically everyone unless I am in a huge rush. Out of the 20 or so people I've ransomed in the past month, only 1 payed, 4 were friendly but didn't pay, 5 of them questioned my mother's morals, and the other 5 questioned my sexual orientation.
I am totally polite when asking for ransoms. I just say, "stop your ship, I want X amount of isk in my wallet in 10 seconds or you lose your ship/implants".
I stick by my word, if you pay me, I'll let you go. If you are an asshat, we'll pod you till the end of time.
Realize that most pirates are barely making a living, and I have yet to know one that actually turns a profit without mining/npc'n. Not having to play the political ****y dance is an added plus. pod everyone!
Ah diddums - you're barely making a living ruining other people's. My heart bleeds for you. If it's that tough, do something else - or preferably quit permanently.
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