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JABBIE
Gallente Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2009.07.14 09:29:00 -
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To Whom It May Concern,
I am writing this statement to comment on The Scorched Earth Alliance and to issue fair warning to corporations considering joining their ranks. Previously we (Alcatraz Inc) were allies to the aformentioned grouping of corporations and bare witness to the betrayal spewed forth by their short sighted and arrogant leadership.
By betraying TCF they have soiled their reputation Eve-wide and by aligning your corporation with Scorched Earth you will inherit the baggage of being traitors while enjoying very limited 0.0 industrial success largely due to endless attacks by Alliances they have PO'd. You will be trolled on CAOD by Goons and fined by Scorched Earth for simply expressing your opinion in a public forum.
Instead, we encourage you to understand foreign languages and cultures, to seek out common goals, politicial solutions, and to persuade a more honorable and stable Alliance that your interests and theirs fundamentally coincide. Over the years we have become more sophisticated and cynical about the narrow and selfish motives that sometimes shape the policies of many newer alliances. Human nature is what it is, and corporations such as Alcatraz Inc have always been rewarded and respected for understanding loyalty and individual freedom. You will find neither loyalty of freedom within SE.
Recently within Scorched Earth, corporations have been asked to advance goals that do not compliment their industrial roots through overbearing Calls To Arms and forced participation. The result, and perhaps the motive, is to justify a vast misallocation of shrinking freedom and independant corporate wealth instead to support a "Counterstrike like" military mentality and to weaken the safeguards that protect individual and corporate wealth from the heavy hand of Alliance Holding Corp taxation. This type of leverage is called slavery and leads to vassel states such as that which once existed within BoB and caused a server wide response. Granted, Scorched Earth is by no means as tenacious or skilled as BoB once was and having said that we can predicte with reasonable confidence that their over all failure and removal from current 0.0 holdings will come sooner than later.
As a responsible CEO, please conduct your due-dilligence and read through the threads linked below and carefully consult with your members before bringing them into such a dishonorable and disloyal fold as Scorched Earth. Thank you for your time.
Very Truthfully,
Jabbie Director of Due Dilligence Alcatraz Inc
Links of Interest:
Scorched Earth Betrays TCF
Outland Research and Development Bails To Salvage Their E-Honor
The Interstellar Foundary Bails Out Due To Scorched Earth Political Failure
Scorched Earth Gets Owned on Youtube by current allies û former enemies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sttezNe_FfM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkCVgN74dec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba-jXB9aUY8
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The'Best Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.14 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: JABBIE You will be trolled on CAOD by Goons
Onoes. I better avoid being trolled by goons on caod. fortunately it's as simple as not being in Scorched Earth, c/d?
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Havohej
Minmatar Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
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Posted - 2009.07.14 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: JABBIE
Jabbie Director of Due Dilligence Alcatraz Inc
I always look forward to the end of a Jabbie post; you can count on the title, "Director of _______," being a clever punchline.
"You can still steal their stuff." - CCP Explorer
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JABBIE
Gallente Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2009.07.14 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: The'Best Hellfury
Originally by: JABBIE You will be trolled on CAOD by Goons
Onoes. I better avoid being trolled by goons on caod. fortunately it's as simple as not being in Scorched Earth, c/d?
Naw, you're right - they're gonna troll u anyway...but at least if you're not in Scorched Earth you can reply without being fined.
From the Scorched Forums:
"""" When this war started Leadership posted that no one was allowed to post in either place. Elrac designated the people that are allowed to post. Some people took it upon themselves to post anyway. As a result a fine of 10 million isk is to be levied upon the pilot and then 10 million upon your corp for ignoring the rules. A second offense will raise the fine to 20 million per member and 20 million per corp and the third offense will result in the members expulsion. You will have one week to pay the fines once receiving the eve-mail. Payment arraignments (where to pay) will be included in the mail. If a new member has been in the Alliance less than 2 weeks the fines will be waived. Fines for the current infractions will be one time so no matter how many times you posted you will be just fined the 10/10 million.
GOD CHASER Alliance Diplomat Fine meter maid
*Current fines are one time only but from this point foreword they will be accessed per offense. """"
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Azran Zala
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Posted - 2009.07.14 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Azran Zala on 14/07/2009 13:04:44 So basically what your saying is, if you're a carebear corp that enjoys mining/ratting 23/7 to make it rich to buy bigger and prettier ships that u insist you would never dare risk in a 'pvp' op. Then dont join SE.
But instead if you're a military corp, who's sole purpose and pleasure is derived from placing your balls in someone else's mouth, & having a blue list that is based on mutual interests and not an eve popularity contest, then SE is for u.
I support this thread.
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Verx Interis
Amarr SkyNet.
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Posted - 2009.07.14 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Verx Interis on 14/07/2009 14:30:37 Um last time I checked this kinda **** isn't what recruitment forums are for..
Honestly I don't get your problem, you've gone NUTS doing nothing but slamming BYRN since the reset.. There's like 5-10 major backstabs a year and countless smaller ones.
God, you're as obsessed as Butter Dog, but at least Butter Dog knows he's a ****.
Edit: Now you're bumping every old thread on CAOD you can find that has to do with BYRNs reset. Okay, you are WAY more obsessive than Butter Dog.
Really most people don't give a **** or see any deep meaning behind the reset.. Especially those of us that actually know what was going on when it happened. ---- Logins required for this post: 688497 |
Azran Zala
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Posted - 2009.07.14 14:43:00 -
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Its to help destract himself from the fact Byrn just killed TNTs pos's (again). perhaps if he spent more time defending, less time trolling... who knows.
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Orbis Kazma
Gallente Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2009.07.14 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Verx Interis Edited by: Verx Interis on 14/07/2009 14:30:37 Um last time I checked this kinda **** isn't what recruitment forums are for..
He's doing a service to any corps who may incorrectly see Byrn as an alliance with a spine and that will be a good atmosphere in which to grow their corporation. This is the space people come for recruitment information and issues, and is exactly what this forum is for.
Originally by: Verx Interis
Honestly I don't get your problem, you've gone NUTS doing nothing but slamming BYRN since the reset.. There's like 5-10 major backstabs a year and countless smaller ones.
Not every backstabbed corp/alliance has a PR agent as good as Jabbie
Originally by: Verx Interis
Really most people don't give a **** or see any deep meaning behind the reset.. Especially those of us that actually know what was going on when it happened.
Excepting maybe people who come here to look for an alliance to recruit into, and decide against providing Byrn with a meatshield, because they read here on this thread what a failsauce alliance they really are. Its just a public service.
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xBLACKNOVAx
Custard Cream Appreciation Society
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Posted - 2009.07.14 16:41:00 -
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Take this **** to CAOD, if everyone started to post on these recruitment forums about what corps and alliances were up to, or other politics then the forums would be full of ****. This form is for people to post for either new members or new corps, not for this. Fingers crossed this will get moved to CAOD. . Navigator Killed my sig |
Verx Interis
Amarr SkyNet.
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: Verx Interis on 14/07/2009 17:08:23
Originally by: Orbis Kazma hurfity hurf
You do realize.. No matter what corp or alliance you join, a good portion of people (much larger than said corp or alliance) are going to think you're a complete ****?
Honestly. I'm in a 6 person corp that's barely a month old and I have at least most of Star Fraction ****ed at me
No matter what the situation, Sc0rched would be called a pet, backstabber, useless, or any number of things. Eve, and even CAOD, is factionalized that if you're in any alliance on one side of the 'great war', the other guys hate your guts.
tl;dr everyone hates someone and in the end, most people don't give a **** about BYRN. Course, even failcascading they're more relevant than TNT.
(BTW those killboard stats are against an alliance with about 25% efficiency for this month)
So, for everyone who has no idea what's going on, JABBIE is just desperate for attention and trying to make TNT seem important. ---- Logins required for this post: 9352 |
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Orbis Kazma
Gallente Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Orbis Kazma on 14/07/2009 17:10:40 JOIN TNT NOW FOR FUN AND FREE CUSTARD CREAMS: Linkage edit:fixed the link
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Orbis Kazma
Gallente Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Verx Interis
tl;dr everyone hates someone and in the end, most people don't give a **** about BYRN. Course, even failcascading they're more relevant than TNT.
Scorched losses this month
We pos spammed them for ****s and giggles and their pos takedowns cost them a lot more in DD'd fleets than it did cost us in POS. So look at Byrn vs Eve stats before you look at Byrn vs TNT stats, if you haven't noticed we're only a fledgling alliance, not a mighty PVP empire like Sc0rched Earth.
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Verx Interis
Amarr SkyNet.
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Orbis Kazma
Originally by: Verx Interis
tl;dr everyone hates someone and in the end, most people don't give a **** about BYRN. Course, even failcascading they're more relevant than TNT.
Scorched losses this month
We pos spammed them for ****s and giggles and their pos takedowns cost them a lot more in DD'd fleets than it did cost us in POS. So look at Byrn vs Eve stats before you look at Byrn vs TNT stats, if you haven't noticed we're only a fledgling alliance, not a mighty PVP empire like Sc0rched Earth.
...For such a fledgling group you guys sure have big mouths..
Besides you missed my point. Sc0rched has something like 25% effiency this month, and you have 27% efficiency against them. Almost all their losses are to Goons/PL/NC, not to TNT. PL seems to be defending most of TNTs POS..
In case you still don't get it..
BYRN vs Eve stats are ****ty, and TNT vs BYRN stats are equally ****ty.
That's like double-****ty. TNT have done nothing meaningful to BYRN, and the backstab didn't really do much either. It was internal problems that would have happened regardless of TNT or TCF or Dyspro. ---- Logins required for this post: 768207 |
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:33:00 -
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Moved to CAOD.
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Eline Nephthys
Caldari Tribal Core
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:48:00 -
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"SEA" looks better than "SE" for scorched earth. Anyone agree?
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Minmatar H A V O C
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Posted - 2009.07.14 19:10:00 -
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Obsess much?
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Fire Hawk
Gallente Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2009.07.14 20:01:00 -
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god someone needs to get a live and get over it ___ Fear the french touch.
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Graalum
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.14 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: JABBIE lolpost
you have to be the bitterest dude in the history of eve holy **** you make farham look forgiving.
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Armoured C
Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.14 21:22:00 -
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jabbie man you need to move on. yes it happened but that was like at least a month ago.
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girlyminer
Caldari Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2009.07.14 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: girlyminer on 14/07/2009 21:35:34 Thread needs more poetry.
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Ammath
Amarr Mentis Fidelis
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Posted - 2009.07.14 21:36:00 -
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give me a: T give me a: R give me a: O give me a: L give me a: L
What does it spell: TROLL!
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Juilus Carnius
Caldari Powerthirst inc. Exiliar Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.14 21:50:00 -
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Now, now were did the big mean El'rac touch you?
~WC is a terrible region anyway move on~
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Arakkis Melanogaster
Caldari Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.14 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej
Originally by: JABBIE
Jabbie Director of Due Dilligence Alcatraz Inc
I always look forward to the end of a Jabbie post; you can count on the title, "Director of _______," being a clever punchline.
And then he blueballs you on the very next post. What an *******. |
Noctis Peregrinus
Minmatar Rowdy Ramblers
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Posted - 2009.07.14 23:22:00 -
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So if you're a carebear with no combat ability, don't join BYRN?
0/10.
Try harder.
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dastommy79
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.14 23:27:00 -
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Quit gettin mad at video games. Seriously your bitterness is very apparent and you propaganda and spin are pathetic.
Former SmashKill Coaliton Leader WTB Leviathan. Hit me up ingame
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Kurt Meyer
Caldari Infusion.
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Posted - 2009.07.14 23:34:00 -
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jesus, do you people ever shutup.
You don't like BYRN we get it.
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dastommy79
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.14 23:35:00 -
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Seriously, the NC treated Scortched like crap. After their assistance defending during the MAX campaign, they were set neutral. They were then given space in wicked creek basically to defend TCF interests. They were used and abandoned by the great TCF and finally made a sound and wise judgment on their own. They are no longer pets, they are free to do whatever they want. Their highends are no longer confiscated and the space that they hold are truly their own. Jabbie you are a pet who still serves a master that doesnt care for him. Stop gettin mad at people who are smarter than you and for the love of christ look at the situation and ask yourself if really are taking the high road or the pathetic road.
Former SmashKill Coaliton Leader WTB Leviathan. Hit me up ingame
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Elektrea
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.14 23:43:00 -
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and you called him bitter ----------
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dastommy79
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.14 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Elektrea and you called him bitter
Why dont you fake reset your 3/4 of 00 eve naplist about it.
Former SmashKill Coaliton Leader WTB Leviathan. Hit me up ingame
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Armoured C
Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.15 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79 Seriously, the NC treated Scortched like crap. After their assistance defending during the MAX campaign, they were set neutral. They were then given space in wicked creek basically to defend TCF interests. They were used and abandoned by the great TCF and finally made a sound and wise judgment on their own.
They are no longer pets, they are free to do whatever they want.
Their highends are no longer confiscated and the space that they hold are truly their own.
Jabbie you are a pet who still serves a master that doesnt care for him. Stop gettin mad at people who are smarter than you and for the love of christ look at the situation and ask yourself if really are taking the high road or the pathetic road.
just bolded two specific parts there
i am pretty sure AAA have the high end in that regions not bryn AND im pretty sure they are pets just on the other side
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