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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.14 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 14/07/2009 16:38:27
This is what I use:
[Caracal, Anti Frig Support]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
Warrior II x2
Imo, use 2 webs when solo and you want to kill frigs, but I find 2 LSE II handy in gangs.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.07.14 16:57:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Imo, use 2 webs when solo and you want to kill frigs, but I find 2 LSE II handy in gangs.
I agree. I use dual web, and when I lose my solo AML Caracal - which is regularly - an extra LSE wouldn't have helped me survive. On the other hand, having dual web has helped me survive and got me additional kills by killing the stupid AB AF before his mates arrive.
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Wannabehero
Absolutely No Retreat
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:04:00 -
[33]
Arbitrator?
[Arbitrator, Anti-frigate Platform]
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Warp Disruptor II
Tracking Disruptor II
Medium Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency S
Medium Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency S
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile
50W Infectious Power System Malfunction
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
Warrior II x5
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SomeHardLovin
Furious Intentions
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:07:00 -
[34]
Hmmm yeah.. I think most people will run from a drone boat like an Arby.
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Wannabehero
Absolutely No Retreat
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:14:00 -
[35]
Blackbird?
[Blackbird, BlackbirdWUT]
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Warp Scrambler II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
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Wannabehero
Absolutely No Retreat
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:23:00 -
[36]
OSPREY!
[Osprey, Go ahead, I'm a noob miner]
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
Warrior II x4
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SomeHardLovin
Furious Intentions
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:33:00 -
[37]
Hmmmm i'm not sure that thing is putting out enough DPS at enough range to really get the job done before i'm horribly killed :)
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Ladett
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:42:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Ladett on 14/07/2009 17:45:18
Tried this on the test server. Very much over kill, but loads of fun.
Nighthawk
6 x T2 Assault Missile Launcher with Sabretooth Precision Light Missile.
1 x T2 Med Nuet
1 x T2 MWD
1 x T2 Web
1 x T2 Warp Scram
1 x T2 Warp Distruptor
1 x T2 EMP Active
3 x T2 Overdrive Injectors
2 x T2 Damage
Rigs
1 x Auxiliary Thrusters
1 x Polycarbon Engine Housing
Tried this out, works a beaut. Really funny.
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Wannabehero
Absolutely No Retreat
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:53:00 -
[39]
[Exequror, stupid cheap, just for kicks]
800mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I
Damage Control II
Microcell Nanite Adaptive Membrane I
10MN Afterburner I
Warp Scrambler II
Patterned Stasis Web I
Patterned Stasis Web I
Limited Electron Blaster I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Limited Electron Blaster I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Limited Electron Blaster I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Limited Electron Blaster I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
Warrior II x5
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Wannabehero
Absolutely No Retreat
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:59:00 -
[40]
Originally by: SomeHardLovin
Hmmmm i'm not sure that thing is putting out enough DPS at enough range to really get the job done before i'm horribly killed :)
I agree completely, this is entirely brainstorming "What ships would you engage if you saw them at a belt/gate"
Who wouldn't engage an Osprey?
In reality I would most likely substitute the light neutron blasters for Medium Pulse Laser II's (with scorch they will reach scram/web range).
The major issue would be DPS/tank ratio of the cruiser vs. AF.
Along with how the AF flys
long range (outside of web) AF would score the kill
close range gank AF's it would be who's EHP last the longest.
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World Director
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Posted - 2009.07.15 02:44:00 -
[41]
Rapier /thread
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FT Diomedes
Gallente
Factio Paucorum
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Posted - 2009.07.15 04:15:00 -
[42]
Originally by: World Director
Rapier /thread
Because Eve is full of morons who would attack a Rapier solo in an assault frigate? Maybe so, but I think it is more likely that these forums are full of people who don't read the OP before posting.
...this doesn't even seem to be a regular case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. Seems more like the rats are on fire, the ship is on fire, and the sea is full of drunk Russians. - Jacob Etienne |
Tavers
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Posted - 2009.07.15 05:24:00 -
[43]
[Omen; Anti-Frigate]
[HI]
Medium Beam Laser II; Multifrequency S
Medium Beam Laser II; Multifrequency S
Medium Beam Laser II; Multifrequency S
Medium Beam Laser II; Multifrequency S
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
[Med]
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
1MN MWD II
[Low]
Damage Control II
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
[Rigs]
Anti-Thermic Pump I
Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Anti-Explosive Pump I
[Drones]
3x Hobgoblin II
EHP : 14.730
350 m/s
157 DPS
347 Volley
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SomeHardLovin
Furious Intentions
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Posted - 2009.07.15 14:45:00 -
[44]
Hmm see I love Amarr.. and I wanted an Amarr platform.. but the Omen to me says "Anti Cruiser/BC (in a group) Gank Ship" and less "awsome tracking frigate killer". My thought is that the weapons you have chosen would track slowly, and the low m/s speed of the fitting would let most frigates run the heck away long before I really got them.. even webbed?
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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.07.15 14:52:00 -
[45]
Any of the cookie cutter small gun Vexor fits.
Other than that, an AML caracal.
If you want AF bait then just fit a tier 1 BC with small guns and park it in a belt, the AF's will come.
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Tavers
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Posted - 2009.07.15 14:57:00 -
[46]
Originally by: SomeHardLovin
Hmm see I love Amarr.. and I wanted an Amarr platform.. but the Omen to me says "Anti Cruiser/BC (in a group) Gank Ship" and less "awsome tracking frigate killer". My thought is that the weapons you have chosen would track slowly, and the low m/s speed of the fitting would let most frigates run the heck away long before I really got them.. even webbed?
Maybe true, so fit small pulse lasers.. Want it to be speedier? Drop the plate for a nano. The problem would be getting frigs to actually engage you..
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Ladett
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Posted - 2009.07.15 14:59:00 -
[47]
Found a sick frigate popper the other day.
Vulture of doom to frigs
5 x 250mm T2's with Antimatter or Javelins
2 x Assault T2's With bloodclaws
4 x Tracking Mods T2's with scan res scripts, or distance depends on ur need
2 x Sensor Booster T2's with Scan scripts
3 x Mag Stabs T2's
1 x Tracking Mod
Ur notice that ur'll need another ship to take damage. However if u have a fleet of frigates this will tear them a new one.
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SomeHardLovin
Furious Intentions
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Posted - 2009.07.15 15:20:00 -
[48]
Its sort of sad that the ONE ship mean't to do this properly (the destroyer).. doesn't even factor into the list.. wth??
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rodensteiner
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.07.15 15:25:00 -
[49]
Thrasher
DMCII
Nano II
MSE
MWD
Scrambler
7x 200mm AC's
Rocket launcher
Thrasher is stupid easy to fit, lots of room. You could probably use any tech or meta level item you wanted, and it'd still fit with room to spare. And be pretty much capstable.
Haven't tried swapping the rocket launcher for a neut, but don't see why you couldn't.
If you want to spend the extra couple of mill, throw shield resist rigs on it (especially when small rigs come out) and it'll be even better.
With my skills it does close to 2,000 m/s. With very low projectile skills and faction ammo, it's less than 200dps, but with a few more skills, maybe T2 guns, it should be much better.
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SuiJuris
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Posted - 2009.07.15 16:09:00 -
[50]
Thrashers are great against Inties and Frigs, but AF's ABSOLUTELY MURDER dessies, They have same or double the HP's and nearly the same DPS plus a much smaller sig radius.
Now, as for a real frigate Murderer,
Mallers With a Massive tank in the lows a web scram MWD in the mids and Small Guns or Dual 180 Autocannons.
Drone Boats, small Gun vexor and or Arbitrators really murder friggies of all shapes and sizes.
AMLII Drakes and Caracals both do the job well, The drake is better for it. Sniper Eagles, Munins, and Zealots. And nothing is quite as effective as a Disco BS in a Pipe system.
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Shinta Kobi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.15 16:27:00 -
[51]
Destroyers/'Dictors seem to **** friggies, as do AFs. The most success I've seen thus far has come from Recons, like the Curse and the Rapier/Huginn. Recons and their drones can pretty much pop any frig that gets within tackling distance.
Then again, missle boats with pilots maxxed on all missle skills can pop a frig pretty damn quick as well.
So, awesome alpha, tackle and drones, or awesome missle skills(or all three) seem to do the job.
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Batsto
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Posted - 2009.07.15 17:57:00 -
[52]
neuting plated stabber
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SomeHardLovin
Furious Intentions
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Posted - 2009.07.15 19:05:00 -
[53]
Edited by: SomeHardLovin on 15/07/2009 19:05:53
Hmm neut/plate stabber sounds interesting..
Interesting stuff.. i'm learning a lot here.
I have another topic in another forum asking for details on what people know about small weapons etc and tracking.. if anyone has any good insight into those things please help me out there.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1119279&page=1
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Kismo
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Posted - 2009.07.15 20:35:00 -
[54]
You are looking for the 720mm Artycane.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.07.15 20:37:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 15/07/2009 20:37:00
Or if you are rich, and want a ship that attrackts more targets:
[Caracal Navy Issue, AML]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Disruptor II
Large Shield Extender II
Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier
Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II (well, lets hope rig patch makes it viable :P)
Core Defence Field Extender I
Core Defence Field Extender I
Warrior II x3
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Securitas Protector
Star Frontiers
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.07.16 00:48:00 -
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Thrashers, put quite simply, annihilate frigates. This is my 0.0 fit, designed with cheapness, market availability, and so on, in mind. Feel free to upgrade. Works great: I got jumped by 7 frigs and almost took out 2 before I died.
Thrasher
7x 150mm Light Autocannon I, EMP S
1x Standard Missile Launcher I (This is important), Piranha or Sabretooth Light Missile
1x Phased Monopropellant MWD
1x J5 Prototype Point
1x 'Langour' Web
2x Gyrostab I's (nothing else available on market :( )
Rips through them.
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Ze4K DK
Gallente
Nova-Tek
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.07.16 03:25:00 -
[57]
Originally by: SFX Bladerunner
Originally by: Thercon Jair
As someone else mentioned, add a few cheap shield resistance rigs to that caracal.
A word on the thrasher though: 1 Thrasher alone is simply going to die to an AF. I'm not even sure a 280mm Arty Thrasher can one volley an AF. But a single AC Thrasher will be going down hard. You have all those tracking bonuses on the Thrasher, but still, an AF will hit a destroyer for more damage than the other way around. I even managed to take out a dual medium shield extender Sabre in my Wolf.
yeah but wolfs can eat through ANYTHING
Wolf's are mean... I'd never fit dual MSE's on my sabre though 
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