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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.16 23:44:00 -
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Edited by: Viktor Fyretracker on 16/07/2009 23:46:00
Originally by: Kyguard
Originally by: BlackDragonShadow
Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Originally by: Jacob Mei I would have imagined that ISS would have functioned as a waypoint between earth and the future moon base. I wonder if the moon base project is in doubt now though.
Doesn't work like that. ISS = Research station, and is not in a suitable position for ANY kind of mission base. I'm about to start slamming my head into this table because of how many times I've had to repeat myself.
It could be used as one if you retrofitted it and sent it into a stable geosynchronous orbit.
It could also be used as a ion cannon if you retrofitted and made NASA angry.
Hammer of Dawn is online.......
of course being the US government it would instead get a lame name "M702 Orbital Ionization Particle Cannon"
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Krystal Vernet
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.07.17 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Krystal Vernet on 17/07/2009 00:05:28 Edited by: Krystal Vernet on 17/07/2009 00:05:14
Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker Edited by: Viktor Fyretracker on 16/07/2009 23:46:00
Quote: It could also be used as a ion cannon if you retrofitted and made NASA angry.
Hammer of Dawn is online.......
of course being the US government it would instead get a lame name "M702 Orbital Ionization Particle Cannon"
I dunno, man. I've always liked the long official names with no apparent meaning behind the alphanumeric designations and scientific names. It has its own epic feel, though admittedly, they don't quite roll off the tongue the same way.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.07.17 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker Edited by: Viktor Fyretracker on 16/07/2009 23:46:00
Originally by: Kyguard
Originally by: BlackDragonShadow
Originally by: Atomos Darksun Doesn't work like that. ISS = Research station, and is not in a suitable position for ANY kind of mission base. I'm about to start slamming my head into this table because of how many times I've had to repeat myself.
It could be used as one if you retrofitted it and sent it into a stable geosynchronous orbit.
It could also be used as a ion cannon if you retrofitted and made NASA angry.
Hammer of Dawn is online.......
Ion Cannon is superior.
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Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.07.17 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDragonShadow
Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Originally by: Jacob Mei I would have imagined that ISS would have functioned as a waypoint between earth and the future moon base. I wonder if the moon base project is in doubt now though.
Doesn't work like that. ISS = Research station, and is not in a suitable position for ANY kind of mission base. I'm about to start slamming my head into this table because of how many times I've had to repeat myself.
It could be used as one if you retrofitted it and sent it into a stable geosynchronous orbit.
It's not as simple as just building a module or two and sending them up there in rocket ships, let alone the sheer amount of fuel it takes to move 300,000KG!
Why am I even bothering...
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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LUH 3472
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Posted - 2009.07.17 06:22:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3472 on 17/07/2009 06:22:45 of: what we want on the moon anyway?can someone explain me this? for all i know there justrock and mabe some ice. why that is justifying spending billions on it i dont know. abit of the scale the whole thing tbh. elsewher there could be safed lifes with it. more infrastructures be build etc.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc. Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.07.17 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: LUH 3472 Edited by: LUH 3472 on 17/07/2009 06:22:45 of: what we want on the moon anyway?can someone explain me this? for all i know there justrock and mabe some ice. why that is justifying spending billions on it i dont know. abit of the scale the whole thing tbh. elsewher there could be safed lifes with it. more infrastructures be build etc.
I should quote hawking...
"The only way man will survive is if he spreads out into space" or something like that anyways.
Basically the moon is a stepping stone, a couple good things come from both exploration and settlement of the moon.
1)Helium 3, possible fuel sources?
2)Research should always be included.
3)Refueling station that costs nothing to keep in orbit(besides life support and such) for possible mars expeditions.
4)Research regarding mining in space and possibly even terraforming tests.
Basically, the moon is the first step to the rest of our solar system, galaxy, and universe.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.17 09:20:00 -
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Quote: Doesn't work like that. ISS = Research station, and is not in a suitable position for ANY kind of mission base. I'm about to start slamming my head into this table because of how many times I've had to repeat myself.
Then dont talk BS.
Guess what the russians want to do with their modules when the US sends their into a decaying orbit. They want to use them as base for a new space station which is there, tada, to be middle station for missions to the moon/mars.
Sure some of the modules will be completely pointless, some will stay there because some research modules will always be handy, and some can just stay there because they will still need oxygen, toilets, propulsion and access to cheap **** (internet).
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Tallaran Kouros
Caldari Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.07.17 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Then dont talk BS.
Uhm, it's not bull****...
Quote: Guess what the russians want to do with their modules when the US sends their into a decaying orbit. They want to use them as base for a new space station which is there, tada, to be middle station for missions to the moon/mars.
I really don't see how this is possible.
As I said, the previous poster was not talking bull**** - the ISS is in a decaying orbit and requires periodic reboosting to stop it re-entering the atmosphere.
To use it as a staging post you would need to boost it into an orbit that is of the correct period and altitude for heading to the Moon or Mars and this is VERY expensive in terms of fuel.
The ISS isn't designed for such a mission anyway and it would make more sense to design something from the ground up for such a mission and put it into the correct orbit to begin with.
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Kyguard
Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.07.17 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Originally by: BlackDragonShadow
Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Originally by: Jacob Mei I would have imagined that ISS would have functioned as a waypoint between earth and the future moon base. I wonder if the moon base project is in doubt now though.
Doesn't work like that. ISS = Research station, and is not in a suitable position for ANY kind of mission base. I'm about to start slamming my head into this table because of how many times I've had to repeat myself.
It could be used as one if you retrofitted it and sent it into a stable geosynchronous orbit.
It's not as simple as just building a module or two and sending them up there in rocket ships, let alone the sheer amount of fuel it takes to move 300,000KG!
Why am I even bothering...
He was trolling or just being naive duh.. that's why we're gonna retrofit into an ion cannon. -
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.17 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
Originally by: Furb Killer
Then dont talk BS.
Uhm, it's not bull****...
Quote: Guess what the russians want to do with their modules when the US sends their into a decaying orbit. They want to use them as base for a new space station which is there, tada, to be middle station for missions to the moon/mars.
I really don't see how this is possible.
As I said, the previous poster was not talking bull**** - the ISS is in a decaying orbit and requires periodic reboosting to stop it re-entering the atmosphere.
To use it as a staging post you would need to boost it into an orbit that is of the correct period and altitude for heading to the Moon or Mars and this is VERY expensive in terms of fuel.
The ISS isn't designed for such a mission anyway and it would make more sense to design something from the ground up for such a mission and put it into the correct orbit to begin with.
Then tell the russians it isnt possible...
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Mia Zheng
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Posted - 2009.07.17 23:12:00 -
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no worries, give it a few years and China will have their own station. America didn't let them play with the ISS so they will probably go make their own to play with.
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BlackDragonShadow
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.20 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mia Zheng no worries, give it a few years and China will have their own station. America didn't let them play with the ISS so they will probably go make their own to play with.
blah
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Lt Forge
Pilots From Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.07.20 10:46:00 -
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America: The country where the money goes to wasted spaceinvestments and banker CEOs, instead of the poor. _____________
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Brolly
Caldari Caldari State Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.20 11:38:00 -
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Wow, cnn are full of ****
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Forge America: The country where the money goes to wasted spaceinvestments and banker CEOs, instead of the poor.
The ceo part I agree with, but handouts don't solve the problem.
"give a man a fish you feed him for a day, teach the man to fish you feed him for life".
Another words, handouts work for the duration of time the poor individual keeps the money, however the creation of jobs can pay that poor individual for life.
And as for space travel, if we are to survive as a species we must expand into space... And if we are to solve alot of the technological problems we have then we need to expand into space.
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