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Master Mnemosyne
Gallente Hybrid Stigmata
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Posted - 2009.07.16 00:43:00 -
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So Ive been following this stuff lately alot, and Ive noticed some intresting tendencies.
-BOB: famous for metagaming (T20, etc), pl famous for metagaming (Kugusumen) -BOB: elite pvp allaince (better than everyone else with smaller numbers), pl is the same -BOB: didnt care who they backstab, same with PL (arcane, etc) -BOB: makes money from moons, rented space to "pets", PL only takes moons, keeps "pets". -BOB: elitist who liked to say how good they were, pl does same, only with a goonie twist
So it seems that PL and BOB are very similar and are the same kind of dangerous force in EVE, the agressive conqurer.
SO what can we (Everyone who wants to see the little guy have a fair chance in New Eden) do about this? I think it is time for Us to band together (no not in a "band of brothers" )and start a new great war against Pl.
If we dont well see alliance after alliance start to die and theyll start taking all the space (at leasdt the moons, and then theyll rent out the space and then how long until they decide there renters were no good and decide to kick them out?)
trust me, this is how pl works, they have no respect for new players just starting out and they WILL crush your alliance eventually I think especially goons need to hear this, they always talk abotu being newb friendly, but they are siding wiht the most ELITIST alliance in game.
So to all, Goonswarm, NC, whoever has an interest in seeing eve be a fair place for new players, its time to start a new great war against the new bob!
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Crucifier
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.07.16 00:49:00 -
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the fact you think PL+sot can take on any major alliance like bob did is laughable
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Admiral Frools
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.16 00:50:00 -
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We sure have been doing a lot of ~aggressive conquering~ lately
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Master Mnemosyne
Gallente Hybrid Stigmata
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Posted - 2009.07.16 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Crucifier the fact you think PL+sot can take on any major alliance like bob did is laughable
im pretty sure they successfuly killed Bob, also its AAA who should be most concerned, their the next ones now that Bob is dead.
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Master Mnemosyne
Gallente Hybrid Stigmata
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Posted - 2009.07.16 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Frools We sure have been doing a lot of ~aggressive conquering~ lately
U can try to deny it but its kind of obvious. Arcane, BOB, IRC+ED, now i here stuff about you killing Scorched earth. U especially seem to be targetting the new players.
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Heath Ledger
Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:04:00 -
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PL is a huge factor in sov warfare. They love killing pos, long station sieges, and other generally unfun things.
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Admiral Frools
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Heath Ledger PL is a huge factor in sov warfare. They love killing pos, long station sieges, and other generally unfun things.
Jesus dude stop telling people our most well kept secrets
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Stretchmeat Crotchquake
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:07:00 -
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Considering PL's primary goal is dominating conquerable space, they're terrible at the game, and are only surviving by abusing developer relations and outpost spam in a very difficult-to-attack region, I can definitely see the similarities.
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Master Mnemosyne
Gallente Hybrid Stigmata
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Stretchmeat Crotchquake Considering PL's primary goal is dominating conquerable space, they're terrible at the game, and are only surviving by abusing developer relations and outpost spam in a very difficult-to-attack region, I can definitely see the similarities.
PL Is terrible at the game? how so? I see them being pretty much the best alliance, on a numbers base. Explain???
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Pristine Nippletub
Caldari Pan-Corporate Productions DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:14:00 -
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Wow, brilliant! Your analysis fits quite a few of the large alliances in the game. It is a game after all, and a pro alliance like PL can't really have fun unless there are enough people to kill. Backstabbing? I dunno that I have heard of PL backstabbing any more frequently than other alliances. In fact I may just be out of the loop because I haven't heard stories of backstabbing, just good Ol' fun.
So I guess my question to Master Mnem is what do you have against PL more than any of the other alliances? I personally enjoy PL because they seem to understand this game. They know how to have fun and get kills, and keep their members from getting crabby with the Sea of blue extending out in every direction from them. PL seems to be an alliance who I can be entertained with, even if I am not a member.
In short I favor PL over you. the exit to the forums is over here, please use it.
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Pristine Nippletub
Caldari Pan-Corporate Productions DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Master Mnemosyne
Originally by: Stretchmeat Crotchquake Considering PL's primary goal is dominating conquerable space, they're terrible at the game, and are only surviving by abusing developer relations and outpost spam in a very difficult-to-attack region, I can definitely see the similarities.
PL Is terrible at the game? how so? I see them being pretty much the best alliance, on a numbers base. Explain???
Are you daft?
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Master Mnemosyne
Gallente Hybrid Stigmata
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:21:00 -
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Edited by: Master Mnemosyne on 16/07/2009 01:22:06 Pristine, what I have against PL is that they are too good. THey are just like bob in that if they are not stopped they will begin to make 0.0 closed to noobs like me. Maybe they are ok persons to others even tho I now them to be backstabbers, but even just because they are becoming strong, that is enough reason to fight them.
my 2 cents.
edit: I guess the goon was trolling me, should have seen that coming.
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Crucifier the fact you think PL+sot can take on any major alliance like bob did is laughable
Can you please tell me, aside from ASCN, what major alliance BoB managed to take on by themselves? ---
Nothing is more discomforting than the discovery of our own inadequacies - Carl Jung |
Midjutetur
Minmatar Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:36:00 -
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Twilight Magester
Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Master Mnemosyne
noobs like me
I have discovered the problem. They denied his app.
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Pristine Nippletub
Caldari Pan-Corporate Productions DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Master Mnemosyne Edited by: Master Mnemosyne on 16/07/2009 01:22:06 Pristine, what I have against PL is that they are too good. THey are just like bob in that if they are not stopped they will begin to make 0.0 closed to noobs like me. Maybe they are ok persons to others even tho I now them to be backstabbers, but even just because they are becoming strong, that is enough reason to fight them.
my 2 cents.
edit: I guess the goon was trolling me, should have seen that coming.
I am probably wrong like usual, but I don't even think PL is currently conquering space. As far as I know they just fly around in superior gangs to whatever you can bring to the party, and that is why you are mad.
As I said before I am generally wrong about most things, and make horrible predictions. Only reason I am chiming in, is that PL is not one of the alliances in game that consumes more space than they use, and I don't personally know them to be backstabbers, but that is through the eye of the beholder, right?. In fact right now I believe Atlas and AAA are steam rolling quite a bit of space (or were). Not to mention AAA kicked aggression out of their space (maybe a backstab? not sure of the situation).
As far as the moons go, I would rather see an alliance who has a super mobile cap fleet focus on capturing high ends, and other moons. It is my thought that if you can move your caps around fast enough, and are dangerous enough, then there is no reason the high-end moons aren't in your hands. It is not like you or I can benefit from a high-end moon now can we? What is important for you to realize is that the alliances that hurt noobs are the ones who claim vast ammounts of space (not moons) which is hardly inhabited. If you look hard enough you will see plenty of areas that are "claimed" by some entity but are fairly deserted. To me, if an alliance is capable of capturing the space that is one thing, but if they don't use that is another. This is where renting comes into play. It gives less powerful entities the opportunity to make bank off of nice space, rather than having it go to waste because some big crap alliance takes the space in order to flex there ever growing nuts, and then doesn't use it.
From a player standpoint I would rather big alliances flex with all of their moon gold, than flex with perfectly usable space that some newer player could actually be making money off of. To me the problem is with alliances who take over vast ammounts of space, and then do not have enough members / renters to effectively use all of their space.
Do you see where the difference is?
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ServantOfMask
Minmatar Foundation Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: Master Mnemosyne tinfoil-hat crowned paranoid ramblings
In reply I only have to offer: ***** (female dog) say What "Misina Arlath
GIRL = Guy In Real Life MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls." |
Midjutetur
Minmatar Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Crucifier the fact you think PL+sot can take on any major alliance like bob did is laughable
i wish osheet didn't kick you, your outrageous nerd bursts on ts were quite funny to hear from time to time
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Voculus
Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:47:00 -
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This was all planned at the PL BBQ in 2007. _________________________________________________________
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Stretchmeat Crotchquake
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Pristine Nippletub Not to mention AAA kicked aggression out of their space
More like Aggression kicked Aggression out of their space.
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Pristine Nippletub
Caldari Pan-Corporate Productions DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Stretchmeat Crotchquake
Originally by: Pristine Nippletub Not to mention AAA kicked aggression out of their space
More like Aggression kicked Aggression out of their space.
Probably.. from the short time I had encounters with that festering pile of nerds I was very put off. I don't care about aggression in any way, was just saying something happened there, and I am not sure what it was, but I shed some tears of laughter.. and then smoked a lot and sat in front of my computer looking dumb for hours like usual... ...
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Graalum
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Stretchmeat Crotchquake
Originally by: Pristine Nippletub Not to mention AAA kicked aggression out of their space
More like Aggression. kicked Aggression. out of their space.
fixed
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Pristine Nippletub
Caldari Pan-Corporate Productions DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.07.16 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Graalum
Originally by: Stretchmeat Crotchquake
Originally by: Pristine Nippletub Not to mention AAA kicked aggression out of their space
More like Aggression. kicked Aggression. out of their space.
fixed
How is this broken sentence "fixed" after it appears you have butchered it even worse?
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ScheenK
Gallente StatiC Ex. Re-Fusion
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Posted - 2009.07.16 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Master Mnemosyne
Originally by: Crucifier the fact you think PL+sot can take on any major alliance like bob did is laughable
im pretty sure they successfuly killed Bob, also its AAA who should be most concerned, their the next ones now that Bob is dead.
Triple A is now the biggest threat in eve u nubbins, not pl and friends
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.07.16 02:45:00 -
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.16 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Crucifier the fact you think PL+sot can take on any major alliance like bob did is laughable
How does it feel about fighting in delve twice and losing ? Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe |
dastommy79
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.16 03:00:00 -
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pageing Will Shatner.....
Former SmashKill Coaliton Leader WTB Leviathan. Hit me up ingame
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BlackHorizon
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.16 03:05:00 -
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3/10 at best
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Snot Shot
Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.16 03:10:00 -
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I am going to have to step in here to correct this:
GoonSwarm is the new BoB...........PL is just their pet pitbull they use to fight for them...
Just sayin....
Dr. Shot
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Admiral Frools
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.16 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Snot Shot
I am going to have to step in here to correct this:
GoonSwarm is the new BoB...........PL is just their pet pitbull they use to fight for them...
Just sayin....
Dr. Shot
Please kindly step out and never come back (IRL)
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