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Wychwood and Wells
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Posted - 2012.05.23 18:50:00 -
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Ships are dirty coloured because of space dust and getting burnt by solar flares. Thats wot the Janitors are for if you pay them. |
Erim Solfara
inFluX.
Good Sax
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Posted - 2012.05.23 19:09:00 -
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I'm going to agree with the general sentiment here. There is a noticable improvement in sharpness/detail on some ships, but T1, Viziam, and Carthum ships are WAY too dark, and not saturated enough. Dulling down the red a LITTLE might've been ok, but this is actually just brown now.
Secondly, what the HELL was the reason for the Khanid ship change?! The COOLEST looking ships in the game have lost their all-black stealth look, for what reason?!
I like the V3 tech, I just don't like the dulling down of the colours, and in Khanid's case, the extra shiny that was absolutely not needed.
The art direction in EVE does seem to be getting more generic with each technology upgrade. I'm still bitter that the new character creator is nowhere NEAR as sci-fi as the old one.
Why do we have characters that look like people you'd see on the street? It's ~40,000 years in the future if I remember my backstory, and each of the races has an entire tear down and rebuild of society since our world.
Eve should be pushing forwards to a MORE sci-fi and unique look, and it's losing that. I just hope it's not policy, and it's just accidental erosion. If it IS policy, it's idiotic. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2012.05.23 19:18:00 -
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I just don't see how anyone can look at the before and after pics of the Guardian and say the new style is not dull. I mean, how can you even call it red anymore?
On holiday. -áIn some other world.
Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours.
To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent,
It was a sun-á |
Einar Skaldakimbi
A.S.K
2
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Posted - 2012.05.23 19:19:00 -
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It is about spaceships!
We learn skills for ages, we work/cheat/steal hard to collect the ISK to buy it and then, finally, we have it, --- our cool ship.
We give it a name, we spin it, we make screen shots when we leave station.
And here you go and you change the look of our ship. Seriously, what were you thinking... |
Jarne
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
5
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:00:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:Anybody who thinks they look dull or washed out either have garbage monitors, or really messed up settings. To me they look bright and vibrant. Especially the Absolution. Also most people are tarts and only go by the dull and unlit preview window, until you get it into space, don't comment on them since with the sunlight and nebulas, they are WOW!
Do you have a screenshot of your Absolution? I'll take back everything I have said if it is as you stated... |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:08:00 -
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whats funny is the old Guardian looks great in that same dull and dark preview window. I've looked at both screenshots on my home PC, my work PC and my cell phone and the old Guardian looks great on all 3 while the new Guardian looks like **** on all 3
On holiday. -áIn some other world.
Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours.
To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent,
It was a sun-á |
Erim Solfara
inFluX.
Good Sax
51
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:27:00 -
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Jarne wrote:Markus Reese wrote:Anybody who thinks they look dull or washed out either have garbage monitors, or really messed up settings. To me they look bright and vibrant. Especially the Absolution. Also most people are tarts and only go by the dull and unlit preview window, until you get it into space, don't comment on them since with the sunlight and nebulas, they are WOW! Do you have a screenshot of your Absolution? I'll take back everything I have said if it is as you stated...
Just took one for you: http://i.imgur.com/MwRCv.jpg |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
203
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:29:00 -
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Erim Solfara wrote:
Eve should be pushing forwards to a MORE sci-fi and unique look, and it's losing that. I just hope it's not policy, and it's just accidental erosion. If it IS policy, it's idiotic.
Sadly, it is policy. IIRC there were several videos a year or two ago where they talked about the previous art design being too "goofy" or something, and they literally were canvassing s-f movies for what they supposed would be a better look.
Yes, it's idiotic, but there you go.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:33:00 -
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Jarne wrote:It started with the "improvement" of ship (shader) models in what was called the "premium client" back then. All T1 Caldari ships got the same boring blue, all Gallente ships got that TERRIBLE highly-toxic-waste-green, etc.. I still hate the Gallente T1 style.
Nice T2 hulls like the Phobos got their colors totally washed out (I really liked the "classic" pink!). Also the Ishkur, Ishtar, and so on.
Now it hit the nicest (IMO) of all T2 ship hulls, and it hit them badly: Paladin, Absolution, Retribution. Did I forget one of those lovely ships patterned in gold and blood? Now the blood has dried, and it stinks :-(.
Edit: I totally forgot the Guardian, the Crusader and the Pilgrim, well and the Ark I think...
To make it worse, the nice Redeemer green is hardly a green anymore o.O.
Anybody else dislikes where this is going?
On the plus side, I really liked (and still like) the new Navy Geddon and Apocalypse painting. The new Damnation is also pretty awesome.
Yup, isn't it ironic, each time CCP improves a models graphic, they screw up the colours.
I used to think the classic Arazu was the best looking ship in the game, and the Heretic.. and the reason I created Misanth was to fly the beautiful Amarr ships. Now they all look bland and ugly. Models might be more 'nice', but the colours on every damn ship in this game has gotten more and more ugly over the years, not a single one has improved, almost exclusively the other route..
shiptoastin' liek a baws |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
188
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:39:00 -
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Barbelo Valentinian wrote:Erim Solfara wrote:
Eve should be pushing forwards to a MORE sci-fi and unique look, and it's losing that. I just hope it's not policy, and it's just accidental erosion. If it IS policy, it's idiotic.
Sadly, it is policy. IIRC there were several videos a year or two ago where they talked about the previous art design being too "goofy" or something, and they literally were canvassing s-f movies for what they supposed would be a better look. Yes, it's idiotic, but there you go.
This is what I believe. They are trying to get away from ships being very bright and shiny and making them more "real" looking. I just think they took it too far. Even if ships in real life do look like crap as they are beaten up and covered in space dust, this is a game. We don't have to have it that way.
On holiday. -áIn some other world.
Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours.
To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent,
It was a sun-á |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:47:00 -
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Erim Solfara wrote:Secondly, what the HELL was the reason for the Khanid ship change?! The COOLEST looking ships in the game have lost their all-black stealth look, for what reason?!
Why start raging now? Sacrilege was changed a very long time ago. |
Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce
Masters of Flying Objects
1029
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:55:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:I just don't see how anyone can look at the before and after pics of the Guardian and say the new style is not dull. I mean, how can you even call it red anymore?
Spoiler: The Guardian has always been butt-ugly, no matter what colour.
I for one like the changes, much more details, most Amarr ships look a lot more "baroque" and decadent now...yay!
-.- |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
779
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Posted - 2012.05.23 21:00:00 -
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All you who don't like the sexy Amarr paint are heretics and shall be banished to slave status!!!
//end RP moment
I love the new colors for the Amarr T2 ships (and Carthem is still red, not brown). T1... a little darker than I would like but I'll live.
Edit: what is up with the lights of doom on the Prophecy hulls? |
Yerik Locke
Silver.
Fade 2 Black
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:42:00 -
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Sinooko wrote: What happened to my Absolution?  It used to be shiny blood red with gold highlights now it's **** brown with gold highlights!  I look upon my Ark with trepidation...
On the contrary, I rather like the new style. The colors go much better together; they're subtle, darker, and more bad-ass. The old red and yellow was extremely gaudy. On top of that, they weren't even gold, but a pukey green-yellow. The current ark, for example.
Gotta say, this is finally becoming the deadly royal warship I signed up for:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1205/2012.05.23.22.19.44.jpg
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1205/abso.jpg
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1205/2012.05.23.22.32.19.jpg
<3
This, my friends, is the old abso.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/m3talc0re/Amarr_Absolution_09.jpg
Tell me again how the new one isn't better? |
Algol Bailiwick
Bunnie Slayers
Redrum Fleet
3
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:49:00 -
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Likewise, I can't get enough of spinning my V3 Retribution.
I can understand where people are coming from with the T1 hulls but Carthum looks great. And Blood Raider ships look like they've just been joyriding over a crowded sidewalk. |
Sinooko
Orion's Fist
Test Friends Please Ignore
30
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Posted - 2012.05.24 00:46:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:Sinooko wrote:What happened to my Absolution? It used to be shiny blood red with gold highlights now it's **** brown with gold highlights! I look upon my Ark with trepidation... Absolution looks awesome Blood raiders no longer have symetrical staining. Acually look bloody. Ark has an amazing sheen. Anybody who thinks they look dull or washed out either have garbage monitors, or really messed up settings. To me they look bright and vibrant. Especially the Absolution. Also most people are tarts and only go by the dull and unlit preview window, until you get it into space, don't comment on them since with the sunlight and nebulas, they are WOW!
Sinooko wrote:Algol Bailiwick wrote:I know you're all a bunch of forum alts but try undocking one before you complain. The preview window lacks decent lighting. Ohanka wrote:I like the new amarr ship colours.
maybe you guys should stop playing on low graphics settings. I did undock, and I am on max graphics and it's still **** brown.
Long Live Eve Online! |
Sinooko
Orion's Fist
Test Friends Please Ignore
30
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Posted - 2012.05.24 00:57:00 -
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Yerik Locke wrote:Sinooko wrote:What happened to my Absolution? It used to be shiny blood red with gold highlights now it's **** brown with gold highlights! I look upon my Ark with trepidation... On the contrary, I rather like the new style. The colors go much better together; they're subtle, darker, and more bad-ass. The old red and "gold" was extremely gaudy. On top of that, they weren't even gold, but a pukey green-yellow. The current Ark, for example. Gotta say, this is finally becoming the deadly royal warship I signed up for: This, this,, and THIS.<3 This, my friends, is the old abso.Tell me again how the new one isn't better? Edit: In response to Corina Jarr: The prophecy hull actually used to have distinct "eyes." You can kind of see them here. The Trinity graphics update homogenized them [I cried] but I'm glad to see their return; they add a certain personality to the ship.
The new one isn't better.
Long Live Eve Online! |
Yerik Locke
Silver.
Fade 2 Black
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Posted - 2012.05.24 01:14:00 -
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I guess if that's your preference. I will, however, fight you for the new ... every step of the way. ;) |
Sinooko
Orion's Fist
Test Friends Please Ignore
30
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Posted - 2012.05.24 01:59:00 -
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Mmk, Links to vids displaying new and old.
Old
http://www.xfire.com/video/557583/
With epic music and blood red armor plating.
New
http://www.xfire.com/video/574998/
No sound, (XFIre was bugged), and **** brown armor.
I concede that the graphics are more detailed and that the new missile effects gave me an e-hardon the likes of which was only recreated when I heard Mechwarrior Online is going into beta soonish.
Long Live Eve Online! |
Yerik Locke
Silver.
Fade 2 Black
3
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:15:00 -
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I definitely see what you're saying about the browns. What's odd is that the reds on my ship show up as more of a dark magenta, like an "old blood" sort of color. I would guess that it's just the system you're in making your ship brown; CCP did say that the new shaders were designed to reflect the environment more than the previous ones.
That's why the Viziam ships' greens are almost absent in certain systems, and very apparent in others. It's unfortunate, but overall leads to a more immersive experience [in my opinion.] I guess I'd liken it to the atmospheric effects in most newer shooters. In certain settings [and at greater distances,] detail is obscured by the "atmosphere," but it adds to the overall effect of making it more lifelike.
Personally I like this, there's nothing that bothers me more [graphics-wise] than objects that don't blend with their environments. If they don't blend visually, it doesn't feel like they're even a part of it. As a kid, it always annoyed me about cartoons, too. You could TELL an object was going to move even before it did, because the moving objects are always much brighter and less detailed than the static environment.
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Sinooko
Orion's Fist
Test Friends Please Ignore
31
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Posted - 2012.05.24 02:57:00 -
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You know what that DOES look magenta, and I see your point about fitting into the environment, but I trained an ark based on the blood red stripe going down the back. Same reason you might buy a viper with a red stripe. Imagine if then a neighborhood car paint detailer, the best in the world mind you, came buy and "fixed" yer stripe making it magenta. You spent all the time and finance buying a car with a cherry red stripe and some jerk thought it looked better in magenta and now yer stuck with it. That's where I'm coming from.
Long Live Eve Online! |
Lodjik
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:16:00 -
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Put me firmly in the column of people that like the new Amarr ships.
I like the new understated colours. It fits the mood of the Amarr better than bright reds and greens of the Carthum and Viziam ships. The new ships are much more like what I was expecting when I first rolled Amarr. |
Theprimaryisthesecondary istheprimary
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:27:00 -
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All these colours are typical iceland weather feeling. Cold gray brown metal crap |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
169
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:36:00 -
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Yerik Locke wrote:Sinooko wrote:What happened to my Absolution? It used to be shiny blood red with gold highlights now it's **** brown with gold highlights! I look upon my Ark with trepidation... On the contrary, I rather like the new style. The colors go much better together; they're subtle, darker, and more bad-ass. The old red and "gold" was extremely gaudy. On top of that, they weren't even gold, but a pukey green-yellow. The current Ark, for example. Gotta say, this is finally becoming the deadly royal warship I signed up for: This, this,, and THIS.<3 This, my friends, is the old abso.Tell me again how the new one isn't better? Edit: In response to Corina Jarr: The prophecy hull actually used to have distinct "eyes." You can kind of see them here. The Trinity graphics update homogenized them [I cried] but I'm glad to see their return; they add a certain personality to the ship.
These image almost, almost made me forget this was a fat space chicken and buy one again... so close. |
John Caligan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.24 09:49:00 -
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What makes the Amarr ships so special?
Caldari ships are where it's at.
Unfortunately, my Drake now looks like a Panda with all the new white..... what are those, racing stripes or somethin? |
RealaiX
Yard Industries
Seventh Heaven
9
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:38:00 -
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i just want to have those "knight-rider-lights-on-the-prophecy" on my harbinger... 
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:47:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:These image almost, almost made me forget this was a fat space chicken and buy one again... so close.
Yeah, Gallente has the best ship models. For example mighty Thorax. 
New Absolution looks great. Don't know why people keep saying it looks crap. |
Vitalik Kirov
Unity Collective
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:04:00 -
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Do you have any idea how hard it is to keep a good coat of paint on a space craft? The rapid temperature fluctuations from impacts on the hull, as well as the impacts themselves are hell on a new paint job. Think scratching your car's paint was bad? AW HELL NAW. Now you've got space dust, debris, dead pilots, and all manner of nasty slapping your ship. To keep it Edward Cullen sparkle-shiney, you'd have to repaint that crap after every warp, I tell you!
Long story short: Paint + Space = A Painter's Hell. |
Xyla Vulchanus
Havoc Violence and Chaos
BricK sQuAD.
39
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:35:00 -
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I have to concur that they have really screwed up the look of all the Amarr ships. It's a shame.
And oh God, what did they do to the Purifier? |
pussnheels
Vintage heavy industries
330
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:50:00 -
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I was really sad panda reloging back on after almost 7 months and found most of my ships in a new colour
Something was lost they don t look sp amarrian anymore, they used to stand out against the rest and everybody could see that you flew amarrian without looking at their overview to see what ship you re flying
Owell if it is ccp s intention to upgrade them in the future, i think i can life with it and get use to it
They somehow look more badass thou
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
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