What happened to my Absolution?
It used to be shiny blood red with gold highlights now it's **** brown with gold highlights!
I look upon my Ark with trepidation...

http://youtu.be/KBasn-hkt74

Pligrim is awesome. all news ships are, I should make a video of all new colors

There were about 5 threads detailing how terrible the new Amarr ships looked in the Test Server sub-forum. The ships have all lost their shiny gold and bright red colors. The only explanation given to us was these updated shaders were necessary so the ships would be ready for V4. When further questions were asked, there were no answers.

Not sure how new shaders could totally wash out a ship and dull out the colors. I'll be a sad panda when I log on tonight after work

Your amazing ability to suck up to CCP never fails to amaze me.

So you can't can't tell in that video that the colors are super dark in the preview window for new ammar ships?

Man, right now I'm in a state I would totally pay real money to get the blood and gold back

It started with the "improvement" of ship (shader) models in what was called the "premium client" back then. All T1 Caldari ships got the same boring blue, all Gallente ships got that TERRIBLE highly-toxic-waste-green, etc.. I still hate the Gallente T1 style.

Nice T2 hulls like the Phobos got their colors totally washed out (I really liked the "classic" pink!). Also the Ishkur, Ishtar, and so on.

Now it hit the nicest (IMO) of all T2 ship hulls, and it hit them badly: Paladin, Absolution, Retribution. Did I forget one of those lovely ships patterned in gold and blood? Now the blood has dried, and it stinks :-(.

Edit: I totally forgot the Guardian, the Crusader and the Pilgrim, well and the Ark I think...

To make it worse, the nice Redeemer green is hardly a green anymore o.O.

Anybody else dislikes where this is going?

On the plus side, I really liked (and still like) the new Navy Geddon and Apocalypse painting. The new Damnation is also pretty awesome.

Your amazing ability to suck up to CCP never fails to amaze me.

http://youtu.be/KBasn-hkt74

Pligrim is awesome. all news ships are, I should make a video of all new colors

preview Window is too dark, don't base what you think off of it.

I don't think I have the absolute response, however may I ask you to consider some points:

-Directx used in Eve is not the latest one

-Hardware speaking, witch one is your graphic card? -witch leads to some other questions:
Are your drivers up to date?
Did you installed clean drivers and not on top (ATi GC's essentially since those are known for their horrible drivers)
Are you using some experimental drivers? (you shouldn't, but it's a personal opinion)
Are you sure your GC is working perfectly? (clean of all dust, proper drivers, proper connections/input(voltage)

Just a simple example and this is good for ATi as for nVidia cards, if you don't have the proper power plant in your system this can make you have tons of horrible graphic bugs. Be sure this is correct for your setup, many manufacturers offer you the possibility to watch this out with simple programs you can trust (known manufacturer)

I do have some issues with my GC too, however those are annoying only after at least 1K players in the same system. Doesn't mean I have a perfect stuff or whatever, far from me, but those little points can increase the number and quality of issues you can experience.

If you show any person outside of Eve to describe the colors on the Guardian at 2:55, they would say brown more than anything else

this is pure fail. Same card and drivers look great before update. Now look like **** after udpate

Here is a perfect example. The ships pictures on the market window has not yet been switched from the old style yet so you can perfectly see the difference between the two regarding color. This is from the same game client on the same monitor/graphics card and the difference is night and day. The market window pic is tiny but you can still easily see how the old colors are much brighter then the dull new colors

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-O7trLH1dLBQ/T7wkOV5Hb7I/AAAAAAAADyE/AI-KBcWNpIM/s1300/Guardian.png

No, I can't actually because, as has been pointed out by others the preview window is very poorly lit.

if you can't see the difference in the red, then you need to get glasses

It looks like the light source is on the far side of the ship, so everything is darker. The color along the entire thing is darkened that way so you can't make a comparison of the red in the preview to that in the icon. But even if it was muted a bit, that may not be bad, can't say as the image you provided is useless for the purpose of making a color comparison.

Edit: If you have better images use those. Insulting someones eyesight because you posted a terrible picture doesn't make you right.

here are better examples

before
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/983/guardianbefore.png

after
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4848/guardianafter.png

soon V3 will be complete and you will be able to pay for the colour you want!

I believe the colour sceams are now matching the manufacturer of the ship now.

Better images, thank you.

That said, if that is the same darker, more muted blood red that the retribution got, I like that color better than the candy red that the ship had before. And after having seen my retribution docked and in a system outside of a nebula where the colorization isn't altered, I view this as a good change. The Amarr and Minmatar nebulas make even good looking ships sometimes look terrible color wise IMHO.

The ship lighting on a lot of ships is far too dark. The Bhaalgorn in particular: could look epic but instead you can barely distinguish between the red and the gold/brown/blue.

Also, the sample image for all the Stealth bombers, save the Nemesis, differs from the ships actual appearance.

http://youtu.be/KBasn-hkt74

Pligrim is awesome. all news ships are, I should make a video of all new colors

preview Window is too dark, don't base what you think off of it.

I know you're all a bunch of forum alts but try undocking one before you complain. The preview window lacks decent lighting.

I know you're all a bunch of forum alts but try undocking one before you complain. The preview window lacks decent lighting.

I like the new amarr ship colours.

maybe you guys should stop playing on low graphics settings.

It started with the "improvement" of ship (shader) models in what was called the "premium client" back then. All T1 Caldari ships got the same boring blue, all Gallente ships got that TERRIBLE highly-toxic-waste-green, etc.. I still hate the Gallente T1 style.

Nice T2 hulls like the Phobos got their colors totally washed out (I really liked the "classic" pink!). Also the Ishkur, Ishtar, and so on.

Now it hit the nicest (IMO) of all T2 ship hulls, and it hit them badly: Paladin, Absolution, Retribution. Did I forget one of those lovely ships patterned in gold and blood? Now the blood has dried, and it stinks :-(.

Edit: I totally forgot the Guardian, the Crusader and the Pilgrim, well and the Ark I think...

To make it worse, the nice Redeemer green is hardly a green anymore o.O.

Anybody else dislikes where this is going?

On the plus side, I really liked (and still like) the new Navy Geddon and Apocalypse painting. The new Damnation is also pretty awesome.

What happened to my Absolution?
It used to be shiny blood red with gold highlights now it's **** brown with gold highlights!
I look upon my Ark with trepidation...

Anybody who thinks they look dull or washed out either have garbage monitors, or really messed up settings. To me they look bright and vibrant. Especially the Absolution. Also most people are tarts and only go by the dull and unlit preview window, until you get it into space, don't comment on them since with the sunlight and nebulas, they are WOW!

Do you have a screenshot of your Absolution? I'll take back everything I have said if it is as you stated...

Eve should be pushing forwards to a MORE sci-fi and unique look, and it's losing that. I just hope it's not policy, and it's just accidental erosion. If it IS policy, it's idiotic.

It started with the "improvement" of ship (shader) models in what was called the "premium client" back then. All T1 Caldari ships got the same boring blue, all Gallente ships got that TERRIBLE highly-toxic-waste-green, etc.. I still hate the Gallente T1 style.

Nice T2 hulls like the Phobos got their colors totally washed out (I really liked the "classic" pink!). Also the Ishkur, Ishtar, and so on.

Now it hit the nicest (IMO) of all T2 ship hulls, and it hit them badly: Paladin, Absolution, Retribution. Did I forget one of those lovely ships patterned in gold and blood? Now the blood has dried, and it stinks :-(.

Edit: I totally forgot the Guardian, the Crusader and the Pilgrim, well and the Ark I think...

To make it worse, the nice Redeemer green is hardly a green anymore o.O.

Anybody else dislikes where this is going?

On the plus side, I really liked (and still like) the new Navy Geddon and Apocalypse painting. The new Damnation is also pretty awesome.

Sadly, it is policy. IIRC there were several videos a year or two ago where they talked about the previous art design being too "goofy" or something, and they literally were canvassing s-f movies for what they supposed would be a better look.

Yes, it's idiotic, but there you go.

Secondly, what the HELL was the reason for the Khanid ship change?! The COOLEST looking ships in the game have lost their all-black stealth look, for what reason?!

I just don't see how anyone can look at the before and after pics of the Guardian and say the new style is not dull. I mean, how can you even call it red anymore?

What happened to my Absolution?
It used to be shiny blood red with gold highlights now it's **** brown with gold highlights!
I look upon my Ark with trepidation...

Absolution looks awesome

Blood raiders no longer have symetrical staining. Acually look bloody.

Ark has an amazing sheen.


Anybody who thinks they look dull or washed out either have garbage monitors, or really messed up settings. To me they look bright and vibrant. Especially the Absolution. Also most people are tarts and only go by the dull and unlit preview window, until you get it into space, don't comment on them since with the sunlight and nebulas, they are WOW!

I did undock, and I am on max graphics and it's still **** brown.

On the contrary, I rather like the new style. The colors go much better together; they're subtle, darker, and more bad-ass. The old red and "gold" was extremely gaudy. On top of that, they weren't even gold, but a pukey green-yellow. The current Ark, for example.

Gotta say, this is finally becoming the deadly royal warship I signed up for:

This,
this,, and
THIS.

<3

This, my friends, is the old abso.



Tell me again how the new one isn't better?

Edit:

In response to Corina Jarr: The prophecy hull actually used to have distinct "eyes." You can kind of see them here. The Trinity graphics update homogenized them [I cried] but I'm glad to see their return; they add a certain personality to the ship.

On the contrary, I rather like the new style. The colors go much better together; they're subtle, darker, and more bad-ass. The old red and "gold" was extremely gaudy. On top of that, they weren't even gold, but a pukey green-yellow. The current Ark, for example.

Gotta say, this is finally becoming the deadly royal warship I signed up for:

This,
this,, and
THIS.

<3

This, my friends, is the old abso.



Tell me again how the new one isn't better?

Edit:

In response to Corina Jarr: The prophecy hull actually used to have distinct "eyes." You can kind of see them here. The Trinity graphics update homogenized them [I cried] but I'm glad to see their return; they add a certain personality to the ship.

These image almost, almost made me forget this was a fat space chicken and buy one again... so close.

Why start raging now? Sacrilege was changed a very long time ago.

confirming that I definitely prefer the new amarr look over the old one, and that some people in this thread probably needs better monitors or learn how to calibrate them :P

also, lulz at those that are complaining about the Ark's color change, especially since it WASN'T changed, as only subcap ships have received the v3 texture so far, further proving that some people are hating on the new colors just because it's different.

I'm now convinced that, for me at least, part of my discontent with the Amarr ship texture revamp is due to lighting issues. Whether in station, in preview, or in space, there doesn't seem to be a way for my ships to be properly lit from above. Nebulas always appear in the background or beneath a ship (providing illumination to the undercarriage - and consequently creating shadows along the dorsal axis.) I even tried flying to a star (just for the illumination) and unfortunately the same holds true. Stars always appear beneath your ship, causing the undercarriage to be lit 10x more than the rest of the chassis. So for now, this hyper-realism has given me a well-lit ventral axis, and a darker, more-armored (and substantially less-gaudy) dorsal one. Amarr ships really shouldn't be lacking on bling. If you guys can figure out a way to create some kind of superficial dorsal illumination, I'm sure it would end some of the new texture dissatisfaction. -- Yonis Kador

My biggest question regarding all of these ship color changes is "Why?"

Couldn't they have updated the textures and all without fundamentally altering the colors on the ships?

EDIT: I really just hope this is a lighting issue.

EDIT2: Upon further experimentation, I found that one needs to run pretty much every setting at "high" in order for the new ship skins to look decent. With my less-than optimal setup, everything is brown. Looks like we got a ninja premium client added in here.