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Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
160
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Posted - 2012.05.22 23:22:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:
exactly. The only things that need to be fixed are windows remember where they were in space. and being able to minimize those windows to the neocom. Right now the build is literally broken, but the system itself is very useful.
And remember where in station too. and they DO minimize to the Neocom. That is .....ALL of them with one push. And the trees and dropdowns are adding an unnecessary complexity.
IF you do not realize that if they even fix your 2 things, we are right back to what we had.
Our POINT exactly. Thank you.
Now, where is the CSM ??
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
197
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:05:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:You said during the EVERadio show this weekend that this feature will be both fantastic and great.
Can you please elaborate further.
update: I'll be checking in to see your responses.
lol I'm still waiting for the CSM to comment on the screwed up Escalation INCURSION NERF & you want thier comments on the screwed up Inferno bugs? WAIT IN LINE  ( I think I'm after the drone regions but b4 you )
EVE residents: 5% WH; 8% Lowsec; 15% Nullsec; 72% Highsec.CSM 7: 1 highsec resident out of 14.CSM demographics vs EVE demographics, nothing to worry about... |
Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group
Joint Venture Conglomerate
41
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:10:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:To reiterate. The actual issues are...
1: Windows close and/or reposition upon a session change.
2: Seperate windows to not update their contents automatically like the main window does. The items actually can be dragged from window to window as you always could, but currently the view does not update automatcially as it does when dragging to the tree or main window.
3: It would be helpful to be able to custom filter what is shown in the tree easily. 4: No control over what opens where. 5: No context-sensitive automatic opening/closing of windows. 6: Batshit insane implementation of POS arrays, corp member hangars, and even the ship hangar. 7: Incompatibilities with still-remaining old inventory management functions. (8: Highlights old GÇ£unfinished businessGÇ¥ and turns them into real usability issuesGǪ but that's more the problem of the old implementation than with the new UI GÇö it just becomes so much more obvious and problematic now.)
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Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
167
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:12:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Fabulousli Obvious wrote:You said during the EVERadio show this weekend that this feature will be both fantastic and great.
Can you please elaborate further.
update: I'll be checking in to see your responses. lol I'm still waiting for the CSM to comment on the screwed up Escalation INCURSION NERF & you want thier comments on the screwed up Inferno bugs? WAIT IN LINE ( I think I'm after the drone regions but b4 you )
It's so screwed up. A nasty autopsy indeed after that thing came in DOA this morning. The Hamster Nurses are still quivering.
I need to blow a bowl.................
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Prisoner 002929
Wulgun Wing
8
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:19:00 -
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The Mittani...not the hero Eve deserves, but the one we need. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
1285
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:30:00 -
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wow, that's sure funny
for weeks several CSM people haven't been able to keep their mouths shut
now....
dead silence
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Orlacc
169
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:31:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Chunicha wrote:The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this. I know personally that you don't really believe that. Now....back under your Bridge.
I despised it at first on Sisi, but now I like it. Not a troll. I thought you unsubbed?
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
867
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:32:00 -
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Prisoner 002929 wrote:The Mittani...not the hero Eve deserves, but the one we need.
Haha
Well CCP can ignore all the feedback from the forums and threads after asking for it when they put the system on SiSi, maybe we did need a hero after all.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Tessla Coil
Pirannha Corp
22
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:46:00 -
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Well, you can make it 28 people who hate this new UI.
I am at a POS and it is impossible to find anything.
If you introduced this system to a new industrialist, he would quit before he even got started.
Absolutely awful.
Now waiting for the obligatory " I just started industry today, and think it is awesome, and have already made a billion today mfg T1 items." |
Maledictum Aideron
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:04:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:To reiterate. The actual issues are...
1: Windows close and/or reposition upon a session change.
2: Seperate windows to not update their contents automatically like the main window does. The items actually can be dragged from window to window as you always could, but currently the view does not update automatcially as it does when dragging to the tree or main window.
3: It would be helpful to be able to custom filter what is shown in the tree easily. 4: No control over what opens where. 5: No context-sensitive automatic opening/closing of windows. 6: Batshit insane implementation of POS arrays, corp member hangars, and even the ship hangar. 7: Incompatibilities with still-remaining old inventory management functions. (8: Highlights old GÇ£unfinished businessGÇ¥ and turns them into real usability issuesGǪ but that's more the problem of the old implementation than with the new UI GÇö it just becomes so much more obvious and problematic now.)
Not empty quoting. |
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Thundering Herd
269
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:05:00 -
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Voting with my wallet.
3 accounts unsubbed.
They run out in a few weeks ... I'll check back in the winter.
It's not just this mess but, the overall trend of late.
Still love the concept of Eve, just not where she has been and seems to be heading.
Nothing clever at this time. |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:09:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Chunicha wrote:The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this. I know personally that you don't really believe that. Now....back under your Bridge. I despised it at first on Sisi, but now I like it. Not a troll. I thought you unsubbed?
Again......THEY NEVER SAY WHY !
Yes I unsubbed. It's actually creepy that you think to bring it up. Anything else about me you want to post ? Or do you want a date. You sure seen fascinated. OR, you could write a mail to CCP and ask why when one unsubscribes they force one to wait till it times out before disconnecting. If it concerns you so much that one can unsubscribe and still type in the Forums, why don't you complain. Go ahead. get right on it. I'm just here out of sheer boredom as the game became unplayable as of this morning.
I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:13:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:As has been already pointed out.
The "issues" most people are waxing emotional about are due to not understanding they can simply drag to the tree to move items, or shift click to open separate windows to monitor contents. They believe the tree only exists to open one window at a time in the main view, which is misunderstanding the main functionality of the tree.
Ah...
1) I have 2 accounts. Each have a different color UI so I can easily identify which I am on at any given time. With the new inventory... I can't see any of the text on one of the accounts. I have to sit down and fiddle with my UI colors to see if I can get the ability to read back. Not necessarily a big deal but I don't want to lose my pink UI Much more fun ganking the gankers decked out in pink.
2) I can only open my cargo on my carrier. Then I can open my other ship "containers" like Fuel Bay, Ship and Corp hangers.
3) I have about 200 ships in station. Know of other people who have over 300. The damn tree is a mile long. Also all of the ships have the same icon and even more important they are not listed in any, currently known or understood, order. Major PTA.
4) Can't access drone bays from the tree so your opening a ship and then opening a window. Old format was faster.
5) Shift click to get the same effect as double click.
6) loading delay when opening the inventory, this includes when looting a wreak since it still access the inventory system. Slower response time is not an improvement. (unless your talking about an orgasm I suppose.)
7) If I try and loot from a container I just hacked in a radar site and I have not accessed it yet I get a pop up of my cargo instead of an error. Had an exciting moment there in a radar site today. The container ended up being empty so that was a roller coaster ride.
8) NO BACK BUTTON after opening a new container so you have to manually find and go back if needed.
Not sure how many more are there but these I have off the top of my head. Sure, some of the issues will resolve as people find workarounds to go back to the old way or learn the new system better. The fact that windows don't stay open is a bug is a contributing factor here. Even so the new UI is clunky and a bit dysfunctional even after you get through the learning phase. Here is to having a fast and speedy iteration of the new shiny UI |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:16:00 -
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Ashina Sito wrote:Not sure how many more are there but these I have off the top of my head. Sure, some of the issues will resolve as people find workarounds to go back to the old way or learn the new system better. The fact that windows don't stay open is a bug is a contributing factor here. Even so the new UI is clunky and a bit dysfunctional even after you get through the learning phase. Here is to having a fast and speedy iteration of the new shiny UI
Wow. I feel for you really. I forgot about those with that many ships etc.  Game is impossible for you definitely.
I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Hardline Havoc
Lost Soldiers
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:19:00 -
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New window makes industry 10x longer and almost unusable.
Please CCP, talk to someone who plays the game before you "fix" stuff!
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ice semple
Order of the Silver Dragons
Silver Dragonz
2
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:22:00 -
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Well...
Lets see.
1) you can no longer access an orca to drop ore into that is not in fleet and not in corp.
2) windows constantly reset
3) windows constantly close
4) windows cant even remember last window opened when reopening
5) I still have to have as many windows open as before, its just now getting to them is more work and managing them is even more than before...
6) Accessing an Orca has become difficult. I imaging its the same for all ships with hangars
7) POS modules. period.
8) ships no longer show the active ship in station
9) double clicking a ship now activates it instead of opening its cargo...
10) while its pretty, the estimate value of cargo is way off.
11) random **** that is not needed. like being able to see stuff like deliveries and corporate member hangars in the list. makes the list even longer than it needs to be.
I dont have a problem with the change, but how the change was done. The change in its current state is NOT an improvement by ANY means. fix at least some of these problems and I can get back to not being pissed. |
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
148
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:35:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:To reiterate. The actual issues are...
1: Windows close and/or reposition upon a session change.
2: Seperate windows to not update their contents automatically like the main window does. The items actually can be dragged from window to window as you always could, but currently the view does not update automatcially as it does when dragging to the tree or main window.
3: It would be helpful to be able to custom filter what is shown in the tree easily. 4: No control over what opens where. 5: No context-sensitive automatic opening/closing of windows. 6: Batshit insane implementation of POS arrays, corp member hangars, and even the ship hangar. 7: Incompatibilities with still-remaining old inventory management functions. (8: Highlights old GÇ£unfinished businessGÇ¥ and turns them into real usability issuesGǪ but that's more the problem of the old implementation than with the new UI GÇö it just becomes so much more obvious and problematic now.) 9. Unintentional activation of the destination folder during the drag and drop process if your mouse is over the destination for too long. This is another time waster and definitely NOT a good usability feature for those who:
a) may not have the motor reflexes of youth and
b) need to keep accessing the source container.
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Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
171
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:40:00 -
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Are the responses from the CSM here not utterly fascinating ?????
I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
88
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:52:00 -
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the new windows is just eh...
its not great, its just different, its not bad its just eh.
another step backwards in ui that goes hand in hand with this decades thinking on less is more philosophy on user interfaces. |
Coronus Vistule
Akakage Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.07.26 03:17:00 -
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I would say most of the Complaints are done by botters who can't make their TinyMiner or whatever work for them while they run their dayjob.
Flat out, I like the new Hangar System. As It is, it has many good points. I got a few freighting containers, changed the names on them, and dropped them in envelope one, and voila! Me and my girlfriend have our things safe and easily accessible.
I can see this working as a boon for many Corps that don't want to be in alliances, but do want to be departmentalized.
Division 1: CEO and their significant other
Division 2: The Rest of the Department heads
Divisions 3 - 7 : Mining and Refining, R&D, Salvage and Trade Goods, Military Departments.
Ultimately Speaking? Shift + Click = window popout. There you have your personalized windows. And, if you want to remake the old hangar? Just Shift + Click, group the windows, and badabing, badaboom.
PS: It's always nice to be able to see if the new recruit is trying to filch something from you and your corp.
Don't Listen to the Botters and Less Than Honorables. Well Done CCP. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2179
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Posted - 2012.07.26 03:19:00 -
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Chunicha wrote:The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this.
The fact I have to shift click open my ship and inventory windows every single time I jump clone, and shift click every time I want to move items around in space, is reason enough to consider it a severely flawed implementation.
It's just pretty, it isn't even remotely practical. You must be a mac user.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Keen Fallsword
The Alpha and the Omega
Inver Brass
68
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Posted - 2012.07.26 03:26:00 -
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New ui is crap it's nothing, useless,clueless ui designers don't know what they are doing. It's like a wet dream of teenager .. Hate it really really badly... |
Mei ra'Zhault
Kimotoro Trading Company
21
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Posted - 2012.07.26 03:26:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:It's just pretty, it isn't even remotely practical. You must be a mac user.
Considering that the new inventory UI is a direct ripoff of Windows 7, I don't think that makes any sense. |
Keen Fallsword
The Alpha and the Omega
Inver Brass
68
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Posted - 2012.07.26 03:30:00 -
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Coronus Vistule wrote:I would say most of the Complaints are done by botters who can't make their TinyMiner or whatever work for them while they run their dayjob.
Flat out, I like the new Hangar System. As It is, it has many good points. I got a few freighting containers, changed the names on them, and dropped them in envelope one, and voila! Me and my girlfriend have our things safe and easily accessible.
I can see this working as a boon for many Corps that don't want to be in alliances, but do want to be departmentalized.
Division 1: CEO and their significant other
Division 2: The Rest of the Department heads
Divisions 3 - 7 : Mining and Refining, R&D, Salvage and Trade Goods, Military Departments.
Ultimately Speaking? Shift + Click = window popout. There you have your personalized windows. And, if you want to remake the old hangar? Just Shift + Click, group the windows, and badabing, badaboom.
PS: It's always nice to be able to see if the new recruit is trying to filch something from you and your corp.
Don't Listen to the Botters and Less Than Honorables. Well Done CCP.
Call me a botter ? New ui sucks .. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2303
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Posted - 2012.07.26 03:49:00 -
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Necromancy is bad.
After some tweaking the only thing I can say that CCP has done incorrectly was to assume a certain basic level of computer savvy in their customer base.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2012.07.26 04:56:00 -
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L2ui, bro.
A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
Jonah Gravenstein
664
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Posted - 2012.07.26 11:16:00 -
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I like it tbh, it has it's problems but I like it nonetheless, I think it's going to be a slow but steady stream of improvements until it works as well as both the players and devs envisaged, or at least a happy medium. Although it's hardly a unified inventory until they manage to get the assets window integrated with it (please no clunky stuff if you do this CCP, just make it work, elegantly if you can).
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Rivur'Tam
the united
Negative Ten.
49
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Posted - 2012.07.26 11:29:00 -
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The system is awful ccp are terri bad hands down the worst company ever
funny thing is i can't seem to stop paying they 70 quid every month and stop myself playing eve for hours everyday
i call witchcraft
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire
^^ my sig was awesome that naugty spitfire stole it for himself true story
United Recruitment Director. |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy
Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:00:00 -
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CSM? cosmic space muppets? |
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