| Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
142
   |
Posted - 2012.05.22 19:59:00 -
[1] - Quote
You said during the EVERadio show this weekend that this feature will be both fantastic and great.
Can you please elaborate further.
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Chunicha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
10
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:01:00 -
[2] - Quote
The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this. |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
142
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:02:00 -
[3] - Quote
Chunicha wrote:The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this.
I know personally that you don't really believe that. Now....back under your Bridge.
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
1252
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:09:00 -
[4] - Quote
Chunicha wrote:The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this.
but we already got used to the old semi-broken system
why did we need a new semi-broken system?
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Senarian Tyme
Serenity Rising LLC
Vanguard.
23
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:09:00 -
[5] - Quote
Chunicha wrote:The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this.
How is increasing the time it takes to do anything great and fantastic?
Does it look shiny and pretty? Yes, But it takes 100% more effort at a bare minimum (by counting clicks) to do ANYTHING with it, and thats assumign the most simple and basic of tasks. If you want a more complicated task,you now start invoking multiple key commands.... to be able to do what was able to be accomplished in just as many clicks before.
Change can be good, in fact it can be very good at times.
But Change Is Not The Same Thing As Improvement.
Newer isn't always better, the two things are often related, but in cases like this, clearly not the same thing.
What new capability was gained by this mess? It had better be great if it imposed a 100%+ workload on anything I have to do for everything else with it.
I would love to see how CCP did their use case testing on this. |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
147
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:12:00 -
[6] - Quote
I would love to hear just WHY Two Step and Seleene thought this was great. They didn't say why in their interviews Saturday.
Just "It's great".
Really.
Stunningly.
Listen for yourselves.
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
49
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:13:00 -
[7] - Quote
the new eve window is fantastic and great |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
701
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:14:00 -
[8] - Quote
I've counted everyone complaining in the front page. 27 posters. You're all just reposting the same things and then reposting in your own thread to make it look bigger by spamming comments. And making more threads that don't need to be made.
This doesn't need it's own thread, it won't get it more attention.
Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
148
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:17:00 -
[9] - Quote
MotherMoon wrote:I've counted everyone complaining in the front page. 27 posters. You're all just reposting the same things and then reposting in your own thread to make it look bigger by spamming comments. And making more threads that don't need to be made.
This doesn't need it's own thread, it won't get it more attention.
This one is not for commenting despite the postings. This is for the CSM to pipe up in general discission for once.
And I mean once.
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
864
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:18:00 -
[10] - Quote
This is about the CSM and their rave reviews of the inventory system.
Does it belong in Jita park or here? Generally, discussion seems to be about the inventory system.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
148
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:19:00 -
[11] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:This is about the CSM and their rave reviews of the inventory system.
Does it belong in Jita park or here? Generally, discussion seems to be about the inventory system.
Youy makee no sensee
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Chunicha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
13
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:22:00 -
[12] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Chunicha wrote:The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this. I know personally that you don't really believe that. Now....back under your Bridge.
Nope I do genuinely believe it, sorry but you just need to accept that you're in the (very vocal) minority on this one. The new system is compact, simple (drag and drop), far more versatile with its filters and all around makes inventory management easier. Stop whining and try using it for a while and you'll realize I'm right. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1966
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:24:00 -
[13] - Quote
As has been already pointed out.
The "issues" most people are waxing emotional about are due to not understanding they can simply drag to the tree to move items, or shift click to open seperate windows to monitor contents. They believe the tree only exists to open one window at a time in the main view, which is misunderstanding the main functionality of the tree.
The ability to open different hanger views from the tree is secondary, it's main function is to drag items to the tree so you don't have to drag items all the way across your screen... and unless you want to monitor those windows you don't need to even have them open.
To reiterate. The actual issues are...
1: Windows close and/or reposition upon a session change.
2: Seperate windows to not update their contents automatically like the main window does. The items actually can be dragged from window to window as you always could, but currently the view does not update automatcially as it does when dragging to the tree or main window.
3: It would be helpful to be able to custom filter what is shown in the tree easily.
Minor issues that have been acknowledged as needing a fix in the very near future.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
149
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:26:00 -
[14] - Quote
Chunicha wrote:
Nope I do genuinely believe it, sorry but you just need to accept that you're in the (very vocal) minority on this one
OK....you've made enough of a clown and a** of yourself. They are all laughing.
Now, the Spirit of Chris Tucker As Ruby Rhod says "zzzzzzz..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......zzzzzzzzzz...zzzzz....zzz.....z" with you.
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Di Mulle
63
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:28:00 -
[15] - Quote
MotherMoon wrote:I've counted everyone complaining in the front page. 27 posters.
You probably forgot to tell you probably accounting yourself for a hundred ... ? Just reminding.
<<Insert some waste of screen space here>> |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
149
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:28:00 -
[16] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:As has been already pointed out.
The "issues" most people are waxing emotional about are due to not understanding they can simply drag to the tree to move items, or shift click to open seperate windows to monitor contents. They believe the tree only exists to open one window at a time in the main view, which is misunderstanding the main functionality of the tree.
The ability to open different hanger views from the tree is secondary, it's main function is to drag items to the tree so you don't have to drag items all the way across your screen... and unless you want to monitor those windows you don't need to even have them open.
To reiterate. The actual issues are...
1: Windows close and/or reposition upon a session change.
2: Seperate windows to not update their contents automatically like the main window does. The items actually can be dragged from window to window as you always could, but currently the view does not update automatcially as it does when dragging to the tree or main window.
3: It would be helpful to be able to custom filter what is shown in the tree easily.
Minor issues that have been acknowledged as needing a fix in the very near future.
Are you on the CSM ?
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Chunicha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
15
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:30:00 -
[17] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
OK....you've made enough of a clown and a** of yourself. They are all laughing.
Now, the Spirit of Chris Tucker As Ruby Rhod says "zzzzzzz..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......zzzzzzzzzz...zzzzz....zzz.....z" with you.
Way to kick it up on the maturity scale, great for winning an argument. It only makes sense that you couldn't counter my points, seeing as how everything you've posted in this thread has been mindless whining anyways. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1966
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:31:00 -
[18] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:As has been already pointed out.
The "issues" most people are waxing emotional about are due to not understanding they can simply drag to the tree to move items, or shift click to open seperate windows to monitor contents. They believe the tree only exists to open one window at a time in the main view, which is misunderstanding the main functionality of the tree.
The ability to open different hanger views from the tree is secondary, it's main function is to drag items to the tree so you don't have to drag items all the way across your screen... and unless you want to monitor those windows you don't need to even have them open.
To reiterate. The actual issues are...
1: Windows close and/or reposition upon a session change.
2: Seperate windows to not update their contents automatically like the main window does. The items actually can be dragged from window to window as you always could, but currently the view does not update automatcially as it does when dragging to the tree or main window.
3: It would be helpful to be able to custom filter what is shown in the tree easily.
Minor issues that have been acknowledged as needing a fix in the very near future. Are you on the CSM ?
Meerly a bringer of (apparently) incovenient truth.
My apologies if I rained on your parade.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
149
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:33:00 -
[19] - Quote
Chunicha wrote:Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
OK....you've made enough of a clown and a** of yourself. They are all laughing.
Now, the Spirit of Chris Tucker As Ruby Rhod says "zzzzzzz..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......zzzzzzzzzz...zzzzz....zzz.....z" with you.
Way to kick it up on the maturity scale, great for winning an argument. It only makes sense that you couldn't counter my points, seeing as how everything you've posted in this thread has been mindless whining anyways.
No one is whining but yourself. And unironically at that.
waiting on the CSM (tap, tap, tap, tap,tap,tap,tap)
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
149
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:34:00 -
[20] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:
Meerly a bringer of (apparently) inconvenient truth.
My apologies if I rained on your parade.
I know. I'd just like us all to hear from them though.
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
149
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:36:00 -
[21] - Quote
Chunicha wrote: The new system is compact, simple (drag and drop), far more versatile with its filters and all around makes inventory management easier.
OK, I'll comment.
It sounds like an ADVERTISEMENT BLURB for the feature. Demonstrates no details of actual usage.
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Romar Agent
Ishukone Regional Headquarters
40
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:38:00 -
[22] - Quote
Chunicha wrote:Nope I do genuinely believe it, sorry but you just need to accept that you're in the (very vocal) minority on this one. The new system is compact, simple (drag and drop), far more versatile with its filters and all around makes inventory management easier. Stop whining and try using it for a while and you'll realize I'm right. I agree that inventory management will be easier.
But how many people did have problems with inventory management that couldn't be solved with folders - erm containers?
For me my hangar has turned from a compartementalized room (=immersion) into a, well - the inventory is simply a tool now. Bland. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
44
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:39:00 -
[23] - Quote
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:You said during the EVERadio show this weekend that this feature will be both fantastic and great.
Can you please elaborate further.
update: I'll be checking in to see your responses.
They can't, they're finding arguments to counter their own recorded "words".
If they do, it's only another prove how failure and completely useless to voice up the community they are.
Edit: at least Mittens did something, he proved you can't do whatever when you're CSM chairman. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1663
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:39:00 -
[24] - Quote
This thread makes a lot more sense and has much more relevant content with the OP blocked.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
149
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:42:00 -
[25] - Quote
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:This thread makes a lot more sense and has much more relevant content with the OP blocked.
Meaning, ironically, it would have no content. It's such a paradox there I wonder if the thread would cease to have ever existed ?
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Thebriwan
LUX Uls Xystus
67
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:44:00 -
[26] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:As has been already pointed out.
The "issues" most people are waxing emotional about are due to not understanding they can simply drag to the tree to move items, or shift click to open seperate windows to monitor contents. They believe the tree only exists to open one window at a time in the main view, which is misunderstanding the main functionality of the tree.
The ability to open different hanger views from the tree is secondary, it's main function is to drag items to the tree so you don't have to drag items all the way across your screen... and unless you want to monitor those windows you don't need to even have them open.
To reiterate. The actual issues are...
1: Windows close and/or reposition upon a session change.
2: Seperate windows to not update their contents automatically like the main window does. The items actually can be dragged from window to window as you always could, but currently the view does not update automatcially as it does when dragging to the tree or main window.
3: It would be helpful to be able to custom filter what is shown in the tree easily.
Minor issues that have been acknowledged as needing a fix in the very near future.
These are in no way minor issues. They make using the inventory a pita.
I now need much more clicks (and therefore time) to do the same things as before. In a better looking window. Sorry but that is not something I like.
Additionally the only way to use the tree to it's potential is to make the window real large. And that is the next annoying thing: Moving, resizing, changing the view setting of this damn window.
|
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7073
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 20:59:00 -
[27] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:To reiterate. The actual issues are...
1: Windows close and/or reposition upon a session change.
2: Seperate windows to not update their contents automatically like the main window does. The items actually can be dragged from window to window as you always could, but currently the view does not update automatcially as it does when dragging to the tree or main window.
3: It would be helpful to be able to custom filter what is shown in the tree easily. 4: No control over what opens where.
5: No context-sensitive automatic opening/closing of windows.
6: Batshit insane implementation of POS arrays, corp member hangars, and even the ship hangar.
7: Incompatibilities with still-remaining old inventory management functions.
(8: Highlights old GÇ£unfinished businessGÇ¥ and turns them into real usability issuesGǪ but that's more the problem of the old implementation than with the new UI GÇö it just becomes so much more obvious and problematic now.)
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
44
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 21:06:00 -
[28] - Quote
Did I already said I can't even find the will to log and do stuff because this feature just wasted all my gaming experience?
How can you people ever admit it's a better gaming experience that have those window opening/closing/resizing whatever crap when all you need is to:
-identify your items location and eventually number at that location -previous had perfect information on this
-identify your item in specific location by sort/meta and number and eventually m3-previous had almost perfect information on this
-be able to easily and very quickly open/view/close set destination, contract, trash, sell whatever fecking option was available
welp, this was also available in previous version
So what doesn new one brings? -more clicks, complexity in station, complexity in space, overall tedious at the point you actually don't want to have more assets and have to open the dam thing.
 |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy
Caldari State
157
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:04:00 -
[29] - Quote
Okey-dokey.
Checking...............
Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do.
~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
710
|
Posted - 2012.05.22 23:14:00 -
[30] - Quote
Chunicha wrote:Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Chunicha wrote:The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this. I know personally that you don't really believe that. Now....back under your Bridge. Nope I do genuinely believe it, sorry but you just need to accept that you're in the (very vocal) minority on this one. The new system is compact, simple (drag and drop), far more versatile with its filters and all around makes inventory management easier. Stop whining and try using it for a while and you'll realize I'm right.
exactly. The only things that need to be fixed are windows remember where they were in space. and being able to minimize those windows to the neocom. Right now the build is literally broken, but the system itself is very useful.
Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
| |
|
| Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |