EVE Search - Pirate Bay to become a Pay Site

All Channels

Out of Pod Experience

Pirate Bay to become a Pay Site

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2009.07.18 05:52:00 - [1] http://torrentfreak.com/new-pirate-bay-will-become-a-pay-site-090716/comment-page-21/#comment-580433 I nominate this to be the dumbest move of the year. This will be known as the Napster 2.0. They buy the site for millions, then drive it straight into the ground. Nobody will pay for this. Morons. :) --- Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
LUH 3472	Posted - 2009.07.18 05:56:00 - [2] ah yes history repeats itself
Shadowsword Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.07.18 06:40:00 - [3] Napster 2.0 indeed. ------------------------------------------
rValdez5987 Amarr Imperial Guard. Soldiers of Solitude	Posted - 2009.07.18 07:24:00 - [4] Their business model would work if people were actually willing to pay for content. Most people aren't. They would rather spend their money on other stuff so they steal because it's accessible and they are unlikely to get caught. Others steal because they feel the company doesn't deserve their money. Oddly these are irrational behaviors. If a company doesnt deserve your money, they probably don't make anything worth owning anyway If you are going to spend your money on something else, do it. Prioritize. Don't Steal. You may get away with it now, but if you think corporations aren't noticing or keeping tabs on you you're wrong. You're not anonymous. etc etc moral of the story Im a buy*. You should be a buy* too. Otherwise you're breaking the law. I could care less about your reasons and justifications as law is fact and anything you say against it are your beliefs and are totally meaningless.
Rouge Drone	Posted - 2009.07.18 08:41:00 - [5] Welcome to two weeks ago.
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.18 09:10:00 - [6] OP if they give me 1$ credit for each 200 mb that i upload i dont have a problem to use that software Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist EvE FTW
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles	Posted - 2009.07.18 09:38:00 - [7] Quote: ôThe more of your computer resources you contribute to the network, the less you pay down to zero,ö Rosso told Cnet. ôThe user is in control.ö I shall be interested to see how much they expect you to share in order to qualify for free membership. If it's remotely attainable, I might actually sign up. --- 34.4:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.07.18 11:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Quote: ôThe more of your computer resources you contribute to the network, the less you pay down to zero,ö Rosso told Cnet. ôThe user is in control.ö I shall be interested to see how much they expect you to share in order to qualify for free membership. If it's remotely attainable, I might actually sign up. Epic, so the moar you steal and share the less you pay. I bet these guys play eve. Originally by: Vaden Khale He's doing the moonwalk in HEE-hee-hell.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.07.18 13:36:00 - [9] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Quote: ôThe more of your computer resources you contribute to the network, the less you pay down to zero,ö Rosso told Cnet. ôThe user is in control.ö I shall be interested to see how much they expect you to share in order to qualify for free membership. If it's remotely attainable, I might actually sign up. I'm more interested in their means of tracking each users Statistics and if it is done in ways that cannot be artificially "Fixed". _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles	Posted - 2009.07.18 14:50:00 - [10] Yes, even if the tracker requires a proper handshake, people with multiple IPs can still transfer stuff across from one to the other. If their client does the reporting, run it inside a VM that tells the client it's uploaded far more than it really has, by moving stuff around in ram? --- 34.4:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.18 18:28:00 - [11] Edited by: ceaon on 18/07/2009 18:29:14 Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Yes, even if the tracker requires a proper handshake, people with multiple IPs can still transfer stuff across from one to the other. If their client does the reporting, run it inside a VM that tells the client it's uploaded far more than it really has, by moving stuff around in ram? care to read the news ? is not using common bittorrent software it sounds to me like that software called voala(or something like that ****) Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist EvE FTW
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.07.18 18:58:00 - [12] Fail cascade imminent.
Sir Muffoon Carried Hate	Posted - 2009.07.18 20:32:00 - [13] Originally by: rValdez5987 Their business model would work if people were actually willing to pay for content. Most people aren't. They would rather spend their money on other stuff so they steal because it's accessible and they are unlikely to get caught. Others steal because they feel the company doesn't deserve their money. Oddly these are irrational behaviors. If a company doesnt deserve your money, they probably don't make anything worth owning anyway If you are going to spend your money on something else, do it. Prioritize. Don't Steal. You may get away with it now, but if you think corporations aren't noticing or keeping tabs on you you're wrong. You're not anonymous. etc etc moral of the story Im a buy*. You should be a buy* too. Otherwise you're breaking the law. I could care less about your reasons and justifications as law is fact and anything you say against it are your beliefs and are totally meaningless. I'll pay to have access to unlimited music and content. I won't pay to share stuff with other people, that's just a silly idea for a number of reasons.
rValdez5987 Amarr Imperial Guard. Soldiers of Solitude	Posted - 2009.07.18 20:45:00 - [14] Originally by: Sir Muffoon Originally by: rValdez5987 Their business model would work if people were actually willing to pay for content. Most people aren't. They would rather spend their money on other stuff so they steal because it's accessible and they are unlikely to get caught. Others steal because they feel the company doesn't deserve their money. Oddly these are irrational behaviors. If a company doesnt deserve your money, they probably don't make anything worth owning anyway If you are going to spend your money on something else, do it. Prioritize. Don't Steal. You may get away with it now, but if you think corporations aren't noticing or keeping tabs on you you're wrong. You're not anonymous. etc etc moral of the story Im a buy*. You should be a buy* too. Otherwise you're breaking the law. I could care less about your reasons and justifications as law is fact and anything you say against it are your beliefs and are totally meaningless. I'll pay to have access to unlimited music and content. I won't pay to share stuff with other people, that's just a silly idea for a number of reasons. In general the concept of sharing implies a short term of use followed by receiving the item back. getting it free and never returning it is theft. The only people authorized to share the items in question are the copyright holders. Now whether or not I agree with what these corporations are doing is irrelevant. Copyright law is absolute. You either follow it or you are a criminal. If you want to protest copyright law try and lobby for change. It's one of the many things I'm doing. As far as clarifying what I meant by buying stuff, I buy stuff. I don't need unlimited access for a set fee (or no fee). I want to buy things one at a time, and I expect to pay a different price for each. It's part of supply and demand economics for that one item. In an unrelated note, I balanced the US federal budget today. It will never see the light of day, and I can almost promise it would be voted nay by 80% of congress/senate, but I did it nonetheless. Required a cut of roughly 10-15% of expenditures across the board based on true priorities of government, and a raise in taxes of 30%. (not 30% + the roughly 15% most already pay, but 15% +30% of the original 15%, so taxes would increase 5% on average) After balancing the budget I only had a small surplus so national debt wouldn't be paid forever. Still if it somehow ever saw the light of day it would be a step in the right direction.
Whitehound	Posted - 2009.07.18 20:46:00 - [15] They are pirates. Not too unexpected. -- "Smoke me a kipper. I'll be back for breakfast." - Ace Rimmer
Mother Clanger Viziam	Posted - 2009.07.18 20:47:00 - [16] Edited by: Mother Clanger on 18/07/2009 20:47:09 This was a good idea when there was the possibility of getting paid to share content. Now that the 'best case scenario' is free access, it will be even more dependent on the quality and quantity of the content available, the logistics of policing which seem absurdly out of a small companies control. The words 'Fail' and 'Doing it wrong' are seeming more and more appropriate by the day. - MC
Sir Muffoon Carried Hate	Posted - 2009.07.18 20:52:00 - [17] Edited by: Sir Muffoon on 18/07/2009 20:52:19 Originally by: rValdez5987 In general the concept of sharing implies a short term of use followed by receiving the item back. getting it free and never returning it is theft. The only people authorized to share the items in question are the copyright holders. Now whether or not I agree with what these corporations are doing is irrelevant. Copyright law is absolute. You either follow it or you are a criminal. If you want to protest copyright law try and lobby for change. It's one of the many things I'm doing. As far as clarifying what I meant by buying stuff, I buy stuff. I don't need unlimited access for a set fee (or no fee). I want to buy things one at a time, and I expect to pay a different price for each. It's part of supply and demand economics for that one item. Then you agree with me, you wouldn't pay to share stuff, so your original statement of "Their business model would work if people were actually willing to pay for content." is wrong.
rValdez5987 Amarr Imperial Guard. Soldiers of Solitude	Posted - 2009.07.18 21:04:00 - [18] Originally by: Sir Muffoon Edited by: Sir Muffoon on 18/07/2009 20:52:19 Originally by: rValdez5987 In general the concept of sharing implies a short term of use followed by receiving the item back. getting it free and never returning it is theft. The only people authorized to share the items in question are the copyright holders. Now whether or not I agree with what these corporations are doing is irrelevant. Copyright law is absolute. You either follow it or you are a criminal. If you want to protest copyright law try and lobby for change. It's one of the many things I'm doing. As far as clarifying what I meant by buying stuff, I buy stuff. I don't need unlimited access for a set fee (or no fee). I want to buy things one at a time, and I expect to pay a different price for each. It's part of supply and demand economics for that one item. Then you agree with me, you wouldn't pay to share stuff, so your original statement of "Their business model would work if people were actually willing to pay for content." is wrong. I was making a broader statement. Content was incorrect I guess. Paying for what you want to buy would be correct. Admit it, most people, (nearly all that I know personally) are more then willing to steal now, even from brick and mortar stores, and if there were less restrictions would steal more and buy less. In terms of whether or not that site will succeed. It's fairly clear they will fail. People want stuff free. period. No one cares if it's theft. (although they will when they get caught)
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy	Posted - 2009.07.18 21:18:00 - [19] LEts see. Napster 2.0 is $5 for unlimited listening. TPB 2.0 is possibly as low as $5 for unlimited listening so as long as you give up your internet connection for their purposes. RIGHHHHT. Hell I dont worry much about paying. I bought manson's latest cd on friday. As I'm pretty sure they arent part of the RIAA/MPAA and arent part of the SUE THEM ALL campaign. Thusly I am not supporting that insanity and bull**** copyright prohibition. I wont pay money that even remotely goes toward the music industry unless I know they arent part of that insanity. That means I have to file share on that basis alone. Add in the fact... Say I buy a television.. it's not good as I want it to be... I can return it for full money back. Say I buy a DVD movie... I cant by any means return it and get my money back. This allows them to sell horribly crap music and movies. Then when their business models fail... they go and demand a part of EVERYONE's gross income. Everyone has to pay money for the music THEY THINK you should have paid for; and they want more money every year. On top of all that... they already get a tax on all CD-R, DVD-R media for the POSSIBILITY that you LEGALLY make a copy of their music or dvds. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.18 21:36:00 - [20] like i said before i will like to be rewarded for each MB i upload and use that point syustem to buy more content so the users will make the *cloud* [i can pay 10$ for HD movies ] Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist EvE FTW
Ivana Drake Caldari Liberi Fatalius Exalted.	Posted - 2009.07.19 00:04:00 - [21] So people who used TBP because they didn't want to pay won't use it anymore, and people who normally pay won't use it because they think it's illegal (I mean honestly, Pirate Bay? )
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy	Posted - 2009.07.19 00:36:00 - [22] Originally by: Ivana Drake So people who used TBP because they didn't want to pay won't use it anymore, and people who normally pay won't use it because they think it's illegal (I mean honestly, Pirate Bay? ) Well napster 2.0 is apparently very popular. The new pirate bay i bet will have enough people going there to make it work. The site being a place to goto for most people though... isnt likely. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.20 19:41:00 - [23] Originally by: ceaon software called voala(or something like that ****) took me sometime to remember this is called http://www.wuala.com/ talk about this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xKZ4KGkQY8 Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist EvE FTW
Rawr Cristina Caldari Liberi Fatalius Exalted.	Posted - 2009.07.20 20:01:00 - [24] shame but it was going to happen eventually - Contagious -
Sniper Wolf18 Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.21 00:57:00 - [25] so is it going to be called the bay now. I dont see where the whole pirate part fits in.... And to finish, thank you for reading my sig -------------------------------------------------- If you are still reading i would probably hav posted by now
Brisco County Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.21 01:50:00 - [26] It's not like there aren't dozens of other sites that track torrents. What kind of sucker is going to pay for this?
Qui Shon	Posted - 2009.07.21 06:38:00 - [27] Edited by: Qui Shon on 21/07/2009 06:45:11 Edited by: Qui Shon on 21/07/2009 06:43:37 Originally by: rValdez5987 In general the concept of sharing implies a short term of use followed by receiving the item back. getting it free and never returning it is theft. The only people authorized to share the items in question are the copyright holders. Now whether or not I agree with what these corporations are doing is irrelevant. Copyright law is absolute. You either follow it or you are a criminal. If you want to protest copyright law try and lobby for change. It's one of the many things I'm doing. Only there is no "item" to "give back". That doesn't make copyright infringement legal or right, it's neither, it just makes it, not theft. Your worship of "the law" as absolute, or fact, is pretty naive. Not only do the laws vary from country to country, their interpretation and application is argued and debated every single day within each country. There's nothing absolute about them. Originally by: Brisco County It's not like there aren't dozens of other sites that track torrents. What kind of sucker is going to pay for this? People who'd prefer for their stuff to be legal, but have been wishing for more then a decade that the big ***s in publishing/distribution would get their thumbs out of their ***ed, greedy asses, and finally implement some consumer friendly distribution models. Without piracy, you would NOT have sites like gamersgate or similar music sites today. Piracy forced* publishers to take some action, but legal on-demand media, which we should have had 10 years ago, is still utterly crap in comparison to illegal options.

Pages: [1] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.