Confirming that the highlighted cap stability is very relevant on a shield injected setup.

And after 47s of fame, you will die in shame.

Thats not the point. You can permarun a 2k DPS Tank without overheating, running into cap issues and still spend under 400 mil. That's unbalanced as even a X-Type fit Vindicator can't keep up with this. It's simply ridicoulus.

Actually the second your new cap injected shield boosters run out you have the choice of it draining the cap in probably 1-2 cycles considering your using 2 of them, or turn them off so they start to reload which takes 60sec. So you will die horribly after said 13cycles with those navy cap charges.

So yes you have a great tank but after those 13cylces you are most likely DEAD if you had to tank that much.

Thats it we need to nerf capital ships and you ReppyK that is obviously an exploit that CCP did not intend to happen as no ship should be able to tank that much.

Lets see...your shield boosters eat two cap booster 400's every four seconds. Your maelstrom has enough cargo capacity (to carry the cap boosters) for about 2 minutes of operation give or take. After 40 seconds of operation each shield booster needs a full minute to reload.

Even if you stagger them, you'll have a 2k tank for 80 seconds....then no tank for 20 seconds...2k tank for 40 seconds then no tank for 20 seconds....then 2k tank for 40 seconds...and then you run out of cap boosters.

The ONLY thing this fit is good for is camping a low-high or null-high region gate.
Aggress someone for 20 seconds. De-agress 60 seconds, jump through. If you do it on a low-low or null-null gate the enemy will simply tackle you on the other side.

You have no buffer (no shield extenders) so any half-decent fleet will kill you in the first 20 seconds of vulnerability imo. That being said, it is a cool fit and might be worth trying on a region gate.

onoz

And my standard pvp vargur fit (before Inferno) (yes yarly) tanks about 7500dps for 6mn so CCP NERF THE VARGUR NOW CCP WHAT HAVE YOU DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE

EFT Warrior.

One ship against a fleet? Why don't you just say it's balanced because Concord can still kill it.

The question is: What happens when a gang with ships unkillable for 80 seconds with 20 sec downtime, if you don't reload ahead of time, meets a gang that's... not. And it'll last more than 80 seconds, unless the other side deals a continuous 2k applied dps.

Nope. MAYBE with a rat specific tank and no things like mwd point and web. And also only for 6 minutes.

Omni tank, prop and point, and any alt can drop cap boosters like you said. I'm not gonna argue about some EFT warrioring in your terrible thread anyway.

Hero solo tank had always existed, this new module will just allow to do it for cheap (but for a short amount of time). I don't think it's overpowered. But next time I'll meet a sleipnir in lowsec, I know he could have a "oh **** it's panic button time" with this new shield booster.

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2k dps is hardly un-killable. That's what, 3 nano canes loaded with RF emp on overheat? So a 4 man nano-can fleet will kill this in about 10 seconds because you have no extenders.

More practically, an alpha meal or a drake blob will alpha each one of these off the fleet because again, you have NO buffer.

unless the other side deals a continuous 2k applied dps after resists/tracking.

Yet again, this is not my point.
First of all, you shouldn't walk into blobs either way (it means death no matter what), second, this negates any reason for using a normal shield booster + cap booster (+ shield boost amp) setup.

first off, 4 dudes isn't a blob. secondly, man, why would i ever want or need cap to run my point, web, invuln, etc.?

And your missing mine. Take 10 of your "active cap boosting maels" versus 10 buffer fit alpha maels. First cycle, the alpha maels volley one of your maels off the field (see --> you have no buffer). Repeat for every subsequent cycle. Your shield boosting maels might kill 1 or 2 of the buffer maels off, but since the boosting fleet will loose 1 mael every volley it won't fricken matter.

Pick any other buffer fit battleship versus your setup. In near-equal numbers, your setup will loose. Horribly.

Now, for 1v1, 1v2, 1v3 you might do a little better but you'll still loose because once you're shield booster has to reload, you're done, and you don't do enough solo dps to bring down a buffer fit bs fast enough.

You can beat a solo drake or cane with this setup, but then again so can a normal mael. This is a prime case of EFT warrioring because you think 2k dps tank with no buffer is a big deal. It isn't.

I'm not saying it isn't a cool proof of concept, but as I and others have pointed out it is far from overpowered. Linking an eft screenshot with a 5000 dps tank fit that's "cap stable" and titling your thread "CCP IN CHARGE OF GAME BALANCE" does not for a good discussion make. And it is certainly not the case where you could get a "fleet of invincible ships."

It has a nice bit of tank for a minute, maybe two. It is a nice proof of concept. It might be good for camping a region gate in practice. Nothing more.

Look at the amount of minmatardation in this thread.

"My nanocane does 700dps, EFT says so"

OP is right and this module is one the stupidest things CCP did to tank balancing.

its not unreasonable at all to expect 2k point of sale DPS from 4 close-fit turret BCs.

its not unreasonable at all to expect 2k point of sale DPS from 4 close-fit turret BCs.

Even if you had that APPLIED +2K dps on field you wouldn't break this tank.