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Fireflyb1
Walden Enterprises
9
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Posted - 2012.05.23 19:48:00 -
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Ohh Yeah wrote:It's not hard to defend your tech when -A- blow up the tower, but leave grid long enough for you to online and anchor a new one
So why the thread? ;) |

Ohh Yeah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
67
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Posted - 2012.05.23 19:51:00 -
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Fireflyb1 wrote:Ohh Yeah wrote:It's not hard to defend your tech when -A- blow up the tower, but leave grid long enough for you to online and anchor a new one So why the thread? ;)
To abuse the mechanics.
Do you honestly think that accepting a bunch of high-sec station campers as allies to give them free war decs is going to stop the 200+ man blobs from shooting our POSes?
They aren't doing any more to save our tech than JEFFRAIDER's IRC pings to play ARMA Zombies
This is the way of the future, man |

roboto212
Hull Breach Inc. Double Tap.
28
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:00:00 -
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And the Derp begins. I am betting that a few people will accept this offer. Better then paying the base 300+MIL to Dec -a- |

Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
1017
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Posted - 2012.05.23 20:22:00 -
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Hannibal Ord wrote:So.... lets for argument sake I join PL as an ally and fight AAA. If I decide after two weeks to change my mind how do I withdraw this generous support? Or do I have to sit it out until the war ends. This is a Gen question, no troll I'm trying to fully understand the new war mechanics. lol 
Right now - allies are "once in, forever in" (until that particular wardec ends).
The devs have stated in recent posts on the forums that they are going to look at putting in weekly renewals of ally contracts as a priority. But no promises or ETA. |

Sutskop
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
80
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:51:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:Right now - allies are "once in, forever in" (until that particular wardec ends).
Wait, what? I think we should advertise this thread! |

Serina Tsukaya
Lonetrek Trade and Industries Test Friends Please Ignore
11
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:34:00 -
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So -A- is whining about PL not being able to defend themselves when they decide to target their lowsec moons whilst PL are in delve. That makes a looot of sense. Oh wait, Isn't that equally as cowardly, or shall we for the sake of your pride, call it strategy. Isn't allowing anyone who wants to wardec -A- to get one for free to limit trade in highsec and shut down your trade routes also a strategy? |

Reppyk
The Black Shell
132
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:42:00 -
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Ohh Yeah wrote:If you're a merc corp looking for a super cheap (see: free) war-dec against a large alliance, look no further.
No.
Now get out. |

Tinu Moorhsum
Royal Scientific Research Enterprise
109
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:49:00 -
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Ohh Yeah wrote:[b]HELLO NEW WAR DEC MECHANICS, IT'S A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU.
If you're a merc corp looking for a super cheap (see: free) war-dec against a large alliance, look no further.
Shadoo was clear about it. Pandemic Legion is whelping and unable to hold ground.....
Sell alliance or fold it back into goons... After the botting ban, 1/2 (or more) of PL can't fight.
Shadoo himself has been more active on his Goon alt than his PL alt lately. He's even been leading drake fleets of all things......
The point being that hot dropping a super-cap fleet and pressing the "win" button is last-year's paradigm. This year, PL have to learn how to fight in conventional fleets....
So far Shadoo has managed to assemble big-ass fleets due to repuation............. |

Ohh Yeah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
68
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Posted - 2012.05.25 14:05:00 -
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Tinu Moorhsum wrote:
Sell alliance or fold it back into goons... After the botting ban, 1/2 (or more) of PL can't fight.
what |

Jones Bones
Imperial Outlaws
54
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Posted - 2012.05.25 14:27:00 -
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Ohh Yeah wrote:Tinu Moorhsum wrote:
Sell alliance or fold it back into goons... After the botting ban, 1/2 (or more) of PL can't fight.
what
Aliens |
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Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
673
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:40:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote: It gives the larger alliance free help and let's lesser know mercs start to build up killboards. Great, here come all the wannabe highsec mercs that seem to think that station camping is the only way to get good kills. While it may overall be a good "deterrent" for decs, one of the biggest issues with sharing decs is sharing decs with other groups that don't understand the ins and outs of highsec pvp.
I lolled because hisec pvp is highly tactical and difficult... Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

LittleTerror
12
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:40:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Five Thirty wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Gee, if only someone had said that maybe this whole unlimited free allies for the defender was going to end up EXACTLY LIKE THIS. What is the problem with it? Maybe unlimited free allies will make some high sec gankbears think twice before starting wars against industrial corps? I'm all for the option to bring mercenaries into the war. I'm against it being completely free, and I'm definitely against it favoring ONLY the defender. Two possibilities for making it more balanced: 2) Allow the aggressor to bring in one ally for every two the defender hires. This creates an escalation of warfare rather than allowing the defender to simply overwhelm the aggressor.
Alonzo Odantis wrote:Seriously, "oh noes, people will be able to use the sandbox correctly to defend themselves instead of being artificially limited and vulnerable" Don't cry sandbox when the aggressor is just as artificially limited as the defender used to be.
I like that idea because I was just thinking about the exact same one 
srsly why can't the aggressor call on its allies if the defender calls on their allies, isn't that how politics actually works?
Just think of the big wars it would cause  |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
388
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Posted - 2012.05.27 15:13:00 -
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I aspire to nothing greater in my EVE-existence than being a meatshield for nullblobtards:
Where do I sign In irae, veritas. |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
388
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Posted - 2012.05.27 15:16:00 -
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Jones Bones wrote:Ohh Yeah wrote:Tinu Moorhsum wrote:
Sell alliance or fold it back into goons... After the botting ban, 1/2 (or more) of PL can't fight.
what Aliens
Lizard-people.
In irae, veritas. |

Moroccan Tourist
CRITICAL Novus
4
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Posted - 2012.05.28 10:39:00 -
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dafuq is this? can i join AAA against pl?
**** it gonna be an RVB like soon  |

TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Exhale.
25
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Posted - 2012.05.28 12:51:00 -
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Can't wait for ccp to balance the bloody moonpoo |

Collin Dow
Glorious Revolution The 99 Percent
33
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Posted - 2012.05.29 01:18:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:Kriegman wrote:Which part of OPEC you don't get? When PL towers get ****** with GSF and NC. will come to help. PL is offering highsec gankers free wardec on -A- so you can gank them at JITA 4-4 business as usual. PL can't defend their tech. They also couldnt take on s2n so they had to batphone TEST. Face it, PL is a thing of the past. Rotting like the NC did. Its just a matter of time before they start to cascade.
PL can't take on S2N? The 99 Percent is taking over joint S2N/RA sov. And we're doing it with 20-50 man guerilla fleets. If anything, it's nulli whose ****** up, since they're seemingly having trouble resisting a small alliance of former highsec scrubs. The Gallente shall rise again! The Glorious Revolution is recruiting. -áContact me about joining! |

LadyJaye
Red Dawn. The Cool Kids Club
1
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Posted - 2012.05.29 09:11:00 -
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Fireflyb1 wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Fireflyb1 wrote:Lol it's nice to see PL squiiirrrmm :) I don't see this as squirming. PL would be buying mercs if they were truly squirming. This is simply starting a new trend. I could see a large number of big alliances allowing free allies. It gives the larger alliance free help and let's lesser know mercs start to build up killboards. Ok, well then this is the twitch before the squirming starts :P All the same to me. No.
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Oracle of Delphi
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.05.29 09:59:00 -
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I see little, yet I see PL's future... It's black in it's entirety, as if absent of reality. What could have been done weighed against what was done, and has been done, without you. So black, so cold is your future.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pav2f4b-1ZE&ob=av2e
-+ö+¦++-å+++»- |

Ohh Yeah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
74
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Posted - 2012.05.30 21:03:00 -
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Oracle of Delphi wrote:I see little, yet I see PL's future... It's black in it's entirety, as if absent of reality. What could have been done weighed against what was done, and has been done, without you. So black, so cold is your future. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pav2f4b-1ZE&ob=av2e-+ö+¦++-å+++»-
Stop posting |
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Oracle of Delphi
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.05.31 05:52:00 -
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Ohh Yeah wrote:Oracle of Delphi wrote:I see little, yet I see PL's future... It's black in it's entirety, as if absent of reality. What could have been done weighed against what was done, and has been done, without you. So black, so cold is your future. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pav2f4b-1ZE&ob=av2e-+ö+¦++-å+++»- Stop posting
Free bump 4u
no...
;-) |

Evolution1979
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:06:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:Hannibal Ord wrote:So.... lets for argument sake I join PL as an ally and fight AAA. If I decide after two weeks to change my mind how do I withdraw this generous support? Or do I have to sit it out until the war ends. This is a Gen question, no troll I'm trying to fully understand the new war mechanics. lol  Right now - allies are "once in, forever in" (until that particular wardec ends). The devs have stated in recent posts on the forums that they are going to look at putting in weekly renewals of ally contracts as a priority. But no promises or ETA.
Once in forever in............ Does that mean i can dec my altcorp with my other altcorp, get some allies and have a neverending war against them? 
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Dalts
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
12
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Posted - 2012.06.03 16:29:00 -
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Evolution1979 wrote:Scrapyard Bob wrote:Hannibal Ord wrote:So.... lets for argument sake I join PL as an ally and fight AAA. If I decide after two weeks to change my mind how do I withdraw this generous support? Or do I have to sit it out until the war ends. This is a Gen question, no troll I'm trying to fully understand the new war mechanics. lol  Right now - allies are "once in, forever in" (until that particular wardec ends). The devs have stated in recent posts on the forums that they are going to look at putting in weekly renewals of ally contracts as a priority. But no promises or ETA. Once in forever in............ Does that mean i can dec my altcorp with my other altcorp, get some allies and have a neverending war against them? 
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Dalts
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
12
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Posted - 2012.06.03 16:31:00 -
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Evolution1979 wrote:Scrapyard Bob wrote:Hannibal Ord wrote:So.... lets for argument sake I join PL as an ally and fight AAA. If I decide after two weeks to change my mind how do I withdraw this generous support? Or do I have to sit it out until the war ends. This is a Gen question, no troll I'm trying to fully understand the new war mechanics. lol  Right now - allies are "once in, forever in" (until that particular wardec ends). The devs have stated in recent posts on the forums that they are going to look at putting in weekly renewals of ally contracts as a priority. But no promises or ETA. Once in forever in............ Does that mean i can dec my altcorp with my other altcorp, get some allies and have a neverending war against them? 
Stupid forum ate the post.
Anyway my little Goonie friend, take that thinking a step further and some really fun and interesting griefing oppotunities present themselves.
Hint hint, anyone who allies with you against your dastardly alt corp has no control at all as to when the war with the corp alt ends...
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Private Pineapple
Republic University Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.06.03 20:07:00 -
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LittleTerror wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Five Thirty wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Gee, if only someone had said that maybe this whole unlimited free allies for the defender was going to end up EXACTLY LIKE THIS. What is the problem with it? Maybe unlimited free allies will make some high sec gankbears think twice before starting wars against industrial corps? I'm all for the option to bring mercenaries into the war. I'm against it being completely free, and I'm definitely against it favoring ONLY the defender. Two possibilities for making it more balanced: 2) Allow the aggressor to bring in one ally for every two the defender hires. This creates an escalation of warfare rather than allowing the defender to simply overwhelm the aggressor.
Alonzo Odantis wrote:Seriously, "oh noes, people will be able to use the sandbox correctly to defend themselves instead of being artificially limited and vulnerable" Don't cry sandbox when the aggressor is just as artificially limited as the defender used to be. I like that idea because I was just thinking about the exact same one  srsly why can't the aggressor call on its allies if the defender calls on their allies, isn't that how politics actually works? Just think of the big wars it would cause 
Agreed. |

Loriarti
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
0
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Posted - 2012.06.06 05:28:00 -
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Collin Dow wrote:Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:Kriegman wrote:Which part of OPEC you don't get? When PL towers get ****** with GSF and NC. will come to help. PL is offering highsec gankers free wardec on -A- so you can gank them at JITA 4-4 business as usual. PL can't defend their tech. They also couldnt take on s2n so they had to batphone TEST. Face it, PL is a thing of the past. Rotting like the NC did. Its just a matter of time before they start to cascade. PL can't take on S2N? The 99 Percent is taking over joint S2N/RA sov. And we're doing it with 20-50 man guerilla fleets. If anything, it's nulli whose ****** up, since they're seemingly having trouble resisting a small alliance of former highsec scrubs.
Woah woah woah.... Collin whats this "former scrubs" thing, don't ruin our reputation!
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