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Julianus Soter
Gallente
The Synenose Accord
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Posted - 2009.07.19 14:43:00 -
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Edited by: Julianus Soter on 19/07/2009 14:44:27
Yesterday the First Seyllin Conference came to a close. The conference brought together many different pilots from various, oftentimes opposing backgrounds, with fifty different capsuleers attending the talks at the CreoDron station in Seyllin.
A summary of findings:
- Evanda Char discussed the possibility of the memetic infection of capsuleers by Sleeper AI's in her report, hosted here: Ms. Char's thesis
ôIt is my hypothesis that the intelligence behind sleeper drones is the same as the contaminating vector in rogue drone evolution and that there is a viable risk that it can, or has, already crossed into the infomorph population.
My work from this point on will be hoping to disprove it, naturally.ö
- Julianus Soter released findings concerning Sleeper activations of what appeared to be a long range jump bridge or wormhole formation array. He also discussed the presence of other large-scale facilities, a unique Sleeper Glyph, and the characteristics of a number of habitable planets in w-space.
ôLet me put this bluntly: This order of energy released at the Sleeper facility and the way it was generated does not fit with a long-term energy production solution.
According to our analysts, this event is anomalous, and the only likely hypothesis was a long-range, high-mass jump event out of their region of space to some unknown destination. Possibly something super-capital sized.ö
- Aurora Morgan delved into the astrophysical side of wormholes and their formation, discussing, natural, artificial, and ôw-spaceö related examples. She indicated that the wormholes we see today ignore almost every known theory of wormhole transportation, and must be studied further.
ôNot only that, but they form with such apparent ease, right before our eyes, and our scanners. And while we can only observe one end, there is nothing that seem to indicate that they need any external source of energy.
Almost as if they were planted by a small seed, feeding it, allowing ships to pass for a while before the beautiful flower fades to time.ö
- Morwen Lagann spoke on sleeper technology and tactical capabilities in her report. She discussed the importance of electronic countermeasures in defeating Sleeper fleets, and the nature of their armor and weaponry.
ôSleeper armor is primarily made of fullerene alloys much stronger than the tritanium-based alloys that are used in the construction of vessels that we are familiar with.
One particularly interesting feature of this armor that scans have shown -- specifically on Sleeper vessels -- is that it appears equally resistant to any "type" of damage, be it electromagnetic radiation or the kinetic force of a railgun charge.ö
- Aria Jenneth gave closing statements, adding that while we don't know much about the Sleepers, or the wormholes themselves, we must still take acts to uncover their secrets and gain understanding:
ôDo these projects, these probings, into their territory anger the Sleepers, turn them against us? That is possible. But it is clear that they were not our friends to begin with, and the question of why becomes ever more important.ö
The Starscape Lounge was open for casual conversation after the event, which concluded at 21:38 YST.
The full transcript is available here: transcript
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Vikarion
Caldari
White Rose Society
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Posted - 2009.07.19 17:53:00 -
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It was an excellent conference, and I enjoyed all of the informative speakers very much.
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Math'ra Hiede
Amarr
Ordo Nigrorum Susurri
Ordo Magna
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Posted - 2009.07.20 07:43:00 -
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I unfortunately was unable to attend this conference.
Although from the looks of it Master J. Soter and the Synenose Accord have made some amazing discoveries and I wish them luck finding more and being able to extrapolate that data to broaden our understanding of the Sleepers.
 Originally by: CCP Greyscale
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Lucius Vindictus
Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris
Ordo Magna
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Posted - 2009.07.20 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Math'ra Hiede
I unfortunately was unable to attend this conference.
Although from the looks of it Master J. Soter and the Synenose Accord have made some amazing discoveries and I wish them luck finding more and being able to extrapolate that data to broaden our understanding of the Sleepers.
You should read the transcripts left by mister Soter, brother. I remain concerned with the past affiliation of some of the members of the Accord, but I can't deny that the conference was most informative.
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Poreuomai
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.20 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Julianus Soter
- Morwen Lagann spoke on sleeper technology and tactical capabilities in her report. She discussed the importance of electronic countermeasures in defeating Sleeper fleets, and the nature of their armor and weaponry.
ôSleeper armor is primarily made of fullerene alloys much stronger than the tritanium-based alloys that are used in the construction of vessels that we are familiar with.
One particularly interesting feature of this armor that scans have shown -- specifically on Sleeper vessels -- is that it appears equally resistant to any "type" of damage, be it electromagnetic radiation or the kinetic force of a railgun charge.ö
Ships made without tritanium? Could this open up the possibility of landing capsuler ships on planets?
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Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Caldari
Infection Vector
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Posted - 2009.07.20 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Julianus Soter
A summary of findings:
- Evanda Char discussed the possibility of the memetic infection of capsuleers by Sleeper AI's in her report, hosted here: Ms. Char's thesis
ôIt is my hypothesis that the intelligence behind sleeper drones is the same as the contaminating vector in rogue drone evolution and that there is a viable risk that it can, or has, already crossed into the infomorph population.
My work from this point on will be hoping to disprove it, naturally.ö
I am preparing a paper along these lines, but I will admit that the report was a very good start to this line of research.
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- Julianus Soter released findings concerning Sleeper activations of what appeared to be a long range jump bridge or wormhole formation array. He also discussed the presence of other large-scale facilities, a unique Sleeper Glyph, and the characteristics of a number of habitable planets in w-space.
ôLet me put this bluntly: This order of energy released at the Sleeper facility and the way it was generated does not fit with a long-term energy production solution.
According to our analysts, this event is anomalous, and the only likely hypothesis was a long-range, high-mass jump event out of their region of space to some unknown destination. Possibly something super-capital sized.ö
Much of this was, and is, unnecessary for the further study of W-space and the "Sleeper Threat", which in and of itself is still to be proven to my satisfaction.
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- Aurora Morgan delved into the astrophysical side of wormholes and their formation, discussing, natural, artificial, and ôw-spaceö related examples. She indicated that the wormholes we see today ignore almost every known theory of wormhole transportation, and must be studied further.
ôNot only that, but they form with such apparent ease, right before our eyes, and our scanners. And while we can only observe one end, there is nothing that seem to indicate that they need any external source of energy.
Almost as if they were planted by a small seed, feeding it, allowing ships to pass for a while before the beautiful flower fades to time.ö
Beautiful presentation, but there were some holes (pardon the pun) in some of the ideas presented. It is not my area of specialty though.
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- Morwen Lagann spoke on sleeper technology and tactical capabilities in her report. She discussed the importance of electronic countermeasures in defeating Sleeper fleets, and the nature of their armor and weaponry.
ôSleeper armor is primarily made of fullerene alloys much stronger than the tritanium-based alloys that are used in the construction of vessels that we are familiar with.
One particularly interesting feature of this armor that scans have shown -- specifically on Sleeper vessels -- is that it appears equally resistant to any "type" of damage, be it electromagnetic radiation or the kinetic force of a railgun charge.ö
A wonderful presentation, and very informative.
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- Aria Jenneth gave closing statements, adding that while we don't know much about the Sleepers, or the wormholes themselves, we must still take acts to uncover their secrets and gain understanding:
ôDo these projects, these probings, into their territory anger the Sleepers, turn them against us? That is possible. But it is clear that they were not our friends to begin with, and the question of why becomes ever more important.ö
On the whole, I will agree with others in stating that there seemed to be an agenda in many of the presentations. Morwen Lagann and Evanda Char's presentations were refreshingly free of these agendas, and I must say I was quite impressed with both presentations.
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Julianus Soter
Gallente
The Synenose Accord
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Posted - 2009.07.20 12:19:00 -
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Thank you for your responses. I'm glad that many pilots found our presentations worthwhile. As to various questions posed already, My report was an omnibus containing the general findings of our organization, unfortunately, I wasn't able to touch on the real implications of them in any great detail due to time constraints.
In the coming year we'll likely host another conference as speakers, findings, and time warrants.
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Aurora Morgan
The Synenose Accord
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Posted - 2009.07.22 11:35:00 -
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I would like to thank all of those who attended and made the conference such a success. I hope you enjoyed yourselves as much as we did.
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Sepherim
Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris
Ordo Magna
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Posted - 2009.07.22 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Poreuomai
Ships made without tritanium? Could this open up the possibility of landing capsuler ships on planets?
If I remember correctly from my times in the academy, there are already a few ships capable of landing on planets, but I have to admit I've never done such a maneuver myself and I horrible when it comes to ship specs.
As for the alloy itself, it should be usable for landing on planets only if it is capable of doing so.
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.07.22 17:39:00 -
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Unfortunately a few... uh, business matters kept me from attending.
Many thanks for the summary, it looks like it was an interesting conference.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.03 04:53:00 -
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I was not able to attend, as the SOE is keeping me busy these days.
Are there any action items pending that that not yet taken up?
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
The Synenose Accord
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Posted - 2009.08.03 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
I was not able to attend, as the SOE is keeping me busy these days.
Are there any action items pending that that not yet taken up?
You too? Gotta love messing with those nuns!
And we're working on all methodology available from all fields at the moment. My personal theory is whether or not wormhole space has an effect on corpse structure and/or taste...
Originally by: Poreuomai
Ships made without tritanium? Could this open up the possibility of landing capsuler ships on planets?
Silly! Ships don't have pure tritanium built into them - it's all alloyed! I must admit though, there's gotta be a lot of style in landing planetside in a tech 3 ship.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.03 06:58:00 -
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This symbol:
Glyph from Conference
It appears to be like that of a rolled up insect, note the segments.
Though expected it's a circular symbol, which is common in the human race. But segmented like that, makes me wonder if the drones are part of an insect-influenced intelligence.
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Lucius Vindictus
Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris
Ordo Magna
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Posted - 2009.08.03 07:44:00 -
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Mister Wolfhammer,
Recently you came to the summit as the victim of a hoax with a trinket supposedly older than time itself, and now you propose the existance of alien intelligence based only on your own vivid imagination?
I think it is time for you to stop watching holo reels and wake up to reality.
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Lucius Vindictus's public log.
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Ejan Kalastra
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Posted - 2009.08.04 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ejan Kalastra on 04/08/2009 10:05:07
Edited by: Ejan Kalastra on 04/08/2009 09:59:38
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ôDo these projects, these probings, into their territory anger the Sleepers, turn them against us? That is possible. But it is clear that they were not our friends to begin with, and the question of why becomes ever more important.ö
There is somethigng deeply disturbing about that glyph. First of all it closely resembles an open eye a peice of work i have seen in particular archaeological sites in empire and known space. Although I have never entered W-space myself and may be mistaken on the origin of the glyph I had seen, this may give evidence to sleppers letalone their drones to have existed in know space at some time. The possibility of a super high mass jump is puzzling and rather dangerous. IF the sleepers are still around or if the drones can communicate wih each other in W-space what is to say that there is not a possibilty for such super capital ships to be jumped into a system such as Rens,Dodixie or Jita. Such a large ship (judging by sleeper technology and weaponry and other jump related systems) would cause massive amount of damage. Though sleepers we know little abou twhat we do know is that they may pose a very significant threat to every single solarsystem everywhere in EVE. I also expect that if the drone are as you say running on the same sort of program as the rogue drone where indeed are their motherships, the rogue drone mothers and such. as we have seen the sleepers are not stupid they know where we come from ther is nowhere to hide. They may indeed be planning to take action. antoher important question can they make themselves.
though caution is duly advised in such spaces. There must be systems in place to stop such sleeper Capital ships from reachign empire. A threat of sleeper invasion is small actually in fact we dont know for sure the ships exist however the size of potential sleeper fleets is staggering. This is not written to frighten merely to warn. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.05 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lucius Vindictus
Mister Wolfhammer,
Recently you came to the summit as the victim of a hoax with a trinket supposedly older than time itself, and now you propose the existance of alien intelligence based only on your own vivid imagination?
I think it is time for you to stop watching holo reels and wake up to reality.
My exploration endeavors are of no harm nor concern to you. I suggest you stop wasting your breath, and stop wasting my time. Nothing will change by your words, or mine, so enjoy the silence instead.
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Reine Jacotey
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Posted - 2009.08.06 23:16:00 -
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Sleeper susceptibility to ECM jamming was mentioned. But is there any information as to what forms of ECM (Radar, Ladar, Gravimatric, and/or Magnetometric) are most effective at jamming Sleeper targetting systems?
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Julianus Soter
Gallente
The Synenose Accord
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Posted - 2009.08.07 04:36:00 -
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They are equally susceptable to all forms of ECM. However, it appears a multispectral ECM module will be less effective than a focused ECM module. Thank you for your comments and questions.
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Poreuomai
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.07 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
This symbol:
Glyph from Conference
It appears to be like that of a rolled up insect, note the segments.
Though expected it's a circular symbol, which is common in the human race. But segmented like that, makes me wonder if the drones are part of an insect-influenced intelligence.
Having enhanced the luminosity channel of that image, it clear looks like a human eye to me!
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