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dzemal
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Posted - 2009.07.19 19:36:00 -
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Hey guys,
We have been around for a while, pvp'ng in low and 0.0 sec. We want to try our hand at high sec pvp, specifically WD corps, taking out small pos's and such. Link to our killboard is http://www.darkspacefrontier.com/killboard/?a=home if you like to check it out. For in game contact you can send mail or convo Dzemal.
Dzemal, CEO
Dark Space Frontier
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Commander Yassir
Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2009.07.19 20:50:00 -
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Any references? Why should I trust you guys over established mercs? What are you going to do to gain a rep among the droves of new merc orginisations in C&P of late? Do you really have what it takes to bring down a well defended POS, let alone the defense fleet that comes with it. What kind of targets can you guys take on? Why is your killboard not a link for lazy people? You said you pvped in low sec, is your sec high enough to go after a target anywhere in hi-sec?
These are some questions you guys should be answering.
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.19 22:39:00 -
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link to killboard in thraed
lock thread
ban op
close c&p
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.20 04:35:00 -
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I endorse this product and/or service
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Normin Bates
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Posted - 2009.07.20 05:34:00 -
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This guy seems legit. |
dzemal
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Posted - 2009.07.20 07:27:00 -
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Commander Yassir, i have tried to answer some of your questions in edited first post. Lana Torrin and Normin Bates, thank you.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.20 07:47:00 -
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 Originally by: dzemal
Commander Yassir, i have tried to answer some of your questions in edited first post. Lana Torrin and Normin Bates, thank you.
Winna
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.20 07:58:00 -
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Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde on 20/07/2009 07:58:43
Everyday i think to myself "why do i bother reading C+P" and then I find a Lana post.
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Billy Hunt
Caldari
Liberty Motorworks LLP
Sherwood Forest
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Posted - 2009.07.20 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: dzemal
Commander Yassir, i have tried to answer some of your questions in edited first post. Lana Torrin and Normin Bates, thank you.
Winna
GOLD!
i damn near wet myself
i often fly in my pod- i like the wind beneath my 'wings' >:D
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Bo Bojangles
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:56:00 -
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dze's a good guy, i've known him for a couple of years now. he'll def give ya 100% effort. go dze! 
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Duck D0GERS
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Posted - 2009.07.30 17:32:00 -
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I have flown with Dzemal and some of his guys for some time now. They are good pvp pilots that will make their best effort to accomplish their mission.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.07.30 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: Tiny Tove on 30/07/2009 21:38:39
I suppose we can look forward to DFS having endless sales on end of line items.....
Edit: Oh I spoonerised it.
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dzemal
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Posted - 2009.08.03 22:23:00 -
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Thank you guys for support
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Requiem Jofama
The Happy Spacemen
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: Requiem Jofama on 10/09/2009 20:48:47
DSF is the lamest mercs I've ever seen.
They got a contract against us:
http://www.shootfighter.se/gh3y/killboard/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=55
Just because you spec pew pew, doesn't mean you can dps.
Just because you spec pew pew, doesn't mean you can dps.
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RedSplat
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: dzemal
Commander Yassir, i have tried to answer some of your questions in edited first post. Lana Torrin and Normin Bates, thank you.
Winna
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.
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Illfindyou
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Posted - 2009.09.10 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: Illfindyou on 10/09/2009 21:14:08
I was a recent contractor of these mercs and I for one am very disappointed with their performance.
I hired them to dec requiem's corp. As you can see they are full of it. I finalized the contract and left three days for holiday; when i come back and ask for an update i find they lost 5 battleships and their CEO got podded (only killing one vexor).
They then blatently lied to me about the progress of the war.
Quote:
2009.09.08 20:09
no kills yet but we are in pen sitting and bothering them, they will probably keep it low until wd expires. as long as we are in system they wont' be bothering you.
as i recieved this mail i watched them in penirgman local smacking and canbaiting and DSF was doing nothing to harass them.
Finally, they sent this:
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well, i spoke with some mercs, and we have learned more about these guys. they are ex mercs from duty. and they were pretty good, disbanded about month ago or something. basically we are fighting fight we can't win, and the way they have been flying together all the time i doubt we will get many kills if any. just fyi
This was after i already paid them to kill. In my mind they took my isk without proper research on their targets and cheated me out of my money. If you can kill the happy spacemen then I will pay you, but if you wimp out on it do not expect my isk.
Do not hire this corp.
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Dawts
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.10 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Requiem Jofama
Edited by: Requiem Jofama on 10/09/2009 21:09:08
Edited by: Requiem Jofama on 10/09/2009 20:48:47
DSF is the lamest mercs I've ever seen.
They got a contract against us:
http://www.shootfighter.se/gh3y/killboard/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=55
After just two days of war they pulled out from the cntract.
Just because you spec pew pew, doesn't mean you can dps.
You seriously had 2 edit that garbage post twice?
You're sig shows that stupid quote once already. You still spelled contract wrong
It should be DSF are the lamest mercs blah blah blah.
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Mickey Simon
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.09.11 00:21:00 -
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To be fair, DSF might well be a bunch of decent pilots but putting them up against Duty is a little much.
Not surprisingly Duty are a bunch of pretty good pilots who are using their experience and probably their numerical advantage to their favour. I don't think it's fair to judge DSF too harshly for this - if anything I think it says more about Duty and how well they work together even when not mercing.
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Jack Coutu
Gallente
The Happy Spacemen
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Posted - 2009.09.11 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dawts
Edited by: Dawts on 10/09/2009 21:16:01
Originally by: Requiem Jofama
Edited by: Requiem Jofama on 10/09/2009 21:09:08
Edited by: Requiem Jofama on 10/09/2009 20:48:47
DSF is the lamest mercs I've ever seen.
They got a contract against us:
http://www.shootfighter.se/gh3y/killboard/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=55
After just two days of war they pulled out from the cntract.
Just because you spec pew pew, doesn't mean you can dps.
Req, why weren't you born in America!!!!! How dare you be Swedish! How dare you not have perfect grammar! HEATHEN!
You seriously had to edit that garbage post twice?
You're sig shows that stupid quote once already. You still spelled contract wrong
It should be DSF are the lamest mercs blah blah blah.
edit: fixed my italics
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Securitas Protector
Stealthfield
Clandestine.
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Posted - 2009.09.11 02:22:00 -
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Welcome to the business and good luck! We're quite green ourselves, so I feel kind of uncomfortable saying that though...
Proud to be shaych |
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Tierie
Caldari
The Happy Spacemen
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Posted - 2009.09.11 08:49:00 -
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Edited by: Tierie on 11/09/2009 08:49:25
Originally by: Dawts
Edited by: Dawts on 10/09/2009 21:16:01
Originally by: Requiem Jofama
Edited by: Requiem Jofama on 10/09/2009 21:09:08
Edited by: Requiem Jofama on 10/09/2009 20:48:47
DSF is the lamest mercs I've ever seen.
They got a contract against us:
http://www.shootfighter.se/gh3y/killboard/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=55
After just two days of war they pulled out from the cntract.
Just because you spec pew pew, doesn't mean you can dps.
You seriously had to edit that garbage post twice?
Your sig shows that stupid quote once already. You still spelled contract wrong
It should be DSF are the lamest mercs blah blah blah.
edit: I insult non english speakers for fun.
fyp
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Faekurias
Raptus Regalitor
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.11 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: Faekurias on 11/09/2009 11:32:55
I think the op is of both questionable quality and legitimacy.
There are mails missing, and for a mercenary trying to have as true statistics as possible is vital, if you want to be seen as serious and have people hiring you.
Also; perhaps they could have done better, perhaps not, was a tough fight with all certainty (the one in ashab) but : Why do missions during wartime?
To be ale to compete as a mercenary, you need to stay on your toes and be able to complete your contracts. Even in smaller sized mercenary outfits there is a lot of competition.
Good luck regardless, learn from getting your asses handed to you and improve. =)
(P.s , I am also Swedish, but at the very least I can actually spell "contract".)
Edit: Oh snap, necro.
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Tierie
Caldari
The Happy Spacemen
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Posted - 2009.09.11 13:20:00 -
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So, Req has trouble writing english now and again. What does that matter? He's ten times the EVE player that i'm sure you'll ever be, and can lead fleets with perfect english on vent.
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HMSBlueprint
Gallente
default.aspx
Evil Kitty Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.11 13:58:00 -
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lolz, i like the happy spacemen killboard, they look like fun
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Lana's Alt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.11 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Faekurias
Edit: Oh snap, necro.
Yeah but its a necro of a thread where i made myself giggle.. I love that pic
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Tierie
Caldari
The Happy Spacemen
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Posted - 2009.09.11 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: HMSBlueprint
lolz, i like the happy spacemen killboard, they look like fun
why thank you<3
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Requiem Jofama
The Happy Spacemen
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Posted - 2009.09.11 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dawts
Edited by: Dawts on 10/09/2009 21:16:01
You seriously had to edit that garbage post twice?
You're sig shows that stupid quote once already. You still spelled contract wrong
It should be DSF are the lamest mercs blah blah blah.
edit: fixed my italics
That wasn't even a real insult, Datws you can do better!
Come on, I give you one for free, Insult me.
Som vi sSger ps svenska, kom in i matchen f÷r fan.
Just because you spec pew pew, doesn't mean you can dps.
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dzemal
Dark Space Frontier
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Posted - 2009.09.12 22:26:00 -
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acctually killboard will be updated as soon as i can figure out all the changes with rigs, further more we were told by illfindyou that we were to help with noob griefers who are mostly 3-4 online and so forth. oh and as far as isk goes, well lets put it this way, we lost over 2 bil now and we were paid how much? so thank you for our effort would be least you could have said.
now, easy kill on navy apoc was due to disrespecting mutual agreement i had with spacemen ceo that we weren't going to shoot at each other and then i retracted the war, i guess we should have known better.
in any case, live and learn
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Electra Deis
Killer Kittens from Outer Space
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Posted - 2009.09.12 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: dzemal
acctually killboard will be updated as soon as i can figure out all the changes with rigs, further more we were told by illfindyou that we were to help with noob griefers who are mostly 3-4 online and so forth. oh and as far as isk goes, well lets put it this way, we lost over 2 bil now and we were paid how much? so thank you for our effort would be least you could have said.
now, easy kill on navy apoc was due to disrespecting mutual agreement i had with spacemen ceo that we weren't going to shoot at each other and then i retracted the war, i guess we should have known better.
in any case, live and learn
Well, you see here's the things you're missing:
1: target research is up to you. Your intel network appears to be shocking tbh.
2: You don't stop fighting when your losses exceed your pay if you want to get clients. It's not your clients fault you sucked....if you take a contract to fight, then you fight, or expect a rep as **** poor mercs who take the money and run.
3: Missioning during a contract. Seriously?
I'll leave you with this little snippet demonstrating some awesome business practices and dedication to the client from DSFs public channel
[17:56:50] Kithan S'jet > well i hope for more fights
[17:57:15] dzemal > thats not up to us at this point
[17:57:25] dzemal > more fights means more isk
[17:57:44] Kithan S'jet > well u have a client to satisfy dont ya
[17:58:17] dzemal > oh no, we spent what he/she paid for, we need more isk to go at it again, we arent' spending our isk
[17:58:31] dzemal > mercs = paid to fight
[17:58:45] leighton69 > bk
[17:58:49] dzemal > wb
[17:58:52] leighton69 > hey dz
[17:58:59] dzemal > hey
[18:01:11] Requiem Jofama > So.. you will require more isk from your client becaus of bad luck / we were blobbing / another excuse?
[18:01:22] Khaotick > back..hey boss
[18:01:23] Requiem Jofama > I like it
[18:02:23] dzemal > well apparently you got nothing usefull to add to our conversation so good by
[18:02:51] leighton69 > o/
[18:03:31] Requiem Jofama > Just asking since I bave better stuff to do then n00bfights, stop bugging me with silly decs
[18:04:01] Slushysnow > seems a bit wrong that you take a merc contract and then don't fight cos ur gonna ask for more money
So yeah.....you want to get jobs, you need to start acting professionally.
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dzemal
Dark Space Frontier
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Posted - 2009.09.13 00:17:00 -
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yea yea, we could have done better job finding out facts. here is what we were told from customer,
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1172015&page=1#1
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Hi. I'd like to hire a merc corp to dec a bunch of griefers and smacktards based in Domain very near Amarr. They number about 30 but I only ever see around 3 or 4 in local during peak euro hours. They canbait and ninja salvage all day long and smack about it in local. They're not in an alliance I'm looking for a small corp to make these lose as many ships as possible. I don't need Noir or Privateers for a corp this small and full of nubs. I prefer a kill-based payment plan. I'm not entirely certain of prices, but I'm offering 50mil up-front with 25% commission per-kill, based on ship chassis cost, payable upon recipt of verified killmail.
and perhaps you can show me where you kept on taking heavy loses day in and out just to prove a point, link would be nice? at least i was honest and said we can't do anything, contract was canceled soon after that.
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