On behalf of The Star Fraction, I acknowledge this apology and wish the pilots of Trinova well in their future endeavors within the low-sec area of Placid known as the Loops.

Star Fraction remains a committed Freespacer organization that vigorously asserts the rights of our pilots to fly wherever they choose in New Eden and we encourage all capsuleers to take on these rights and refuse to bow down to territorial authority and imperialist roadblocks!

Poor show.


Star Fraction dec a corp to milk out an apology on the IGS after hunting haulers and industrials in highsec.

You're just fueling their collective ego. Have fun being their lackeys in future.


As a side note, the Fraction has decided to declare war on Moira, a second time. This one will be going mutual.

As a side note, ... Moira

As a side note, the Fraction has decided to declare war on Moira, a second time. This one will be going mutual.

Actions speak louder than words

The obvious solution to this little thing is for all parties to attack each other instead of posting on the IGS. Who wants to be first?

I believe the cause of this reported dullness you mention is the inaccuracy of your sources. One need but look at any of the available resources for reporting such to see that large and small fleets clash on a daily basis just about everywhere out in nullsec. Just yesterday, I lead a group of twenty against seven and lost horrible; in that same day, there were at least five different fleet engagements during "prime hours" within my own alliance, and during the off-peak hours there were two others; one of those involved the destruction of several hostile super-capital vessels.

Beyond the engagement of fleets, last night our Coalition forces liberated the station in M-2, and defended it against attempted recapture by its previous owners on two separate occasions; moreover, there were literally dozens of small, roaming gangs and one-off engagements across the area of space under our influence, as well as some "gate camps" and expeditions in foreign space. This represents a single day in a single Alliance, and I suspect that the total activity in nullsec represents much greater total activity; moreover, I believe that you and anyone else can confirm the veracity of these claims by seeking reports from objective sources.

What did you do yesterday?

...and yet we see you doing nothing...again, whilst The Star Fraction stands for what it believes in. You prove the saying correct, an empty vessels makes the most noise. Such a shame Sir, you could do so much more if you put your mind to it.

...pointless rambling spanning several posts...

Jade Constantine;

I have neither the motivation nor the inclination to impress you; The Star Fraction is a non-entity from the perspective of our organisation, and your opinion of me and mine is irrelevant.

[ Honestly, you think you've seen me angry?

I am personally quite interested in and amused by the activities undertaken by The Star Fraction .

It does seem to be your natural state.
Face puffed up bright scarlet and eyes full of invective tears.

I most certainly shall; and, I shall continue to post in your threads so as to give you the attention you so desperately seek. I would ask that you consider joining us in Freeport Delve?

I am proposing, without offering you anything for doing so, that you relocate yourself and whatever followers as will accompany you to Delve, and, once there, you live out the freespace ideals that you have long espoused in a region which shall be kept free of laws, dictators, religions and so on. Neither I nor my organisation offer you any protection or quarter, nor do we expect any from you and yours; moreover, you will likely want to set us Red, because as a non-entity we will shoot you on sight. But those are details for diplomats and politicians. I simply wish you to carve out a lot for yourself in Freeport Delve and live however it is you wish to live. It will be both difficult and dangerous, and you will likely be facing an uphill battle against every organisation that inhabits the regionGÇöto include my own; but, you would be "free," and no one would ever again be able to call you out for inaction.

I am proposing, without offering you anything for doing so, that you relocate yourself and whatever followers as will accompany you to Delve, and, once there, you live out the freespace ideals that you have long espoused in a region which shall be kept free of laws, dictators, religions and so on. Neither I nor my organisation offer you any protection or quarter, nor do we expect any from you and yours; moreover, you will likely want to set us Red, because as a non-entity we will shoot you on sight. But those are details for diplomats and politicians. I simply wish you to carve out a lot for yourself in Freeport Delve and live however it is you wish to live. It will be both difficult and dangerous, and you will likely be facing an uphill battle against every organisation that inhabits the regionGÇöto include my own; but, you would be "free," and no one would ever again be able to call you out for inaction.

If I have this straight. You are "inviting" people to come and live in a Blood Raider sovereignty region with stations you don't control and fight against each other to prove their right to exist or something?

What is the difference between that and somebody else inviting people to come and live in the Gurrista stations in Venal and call it "freeport venal"?

I'm not sure what role you actually play in this offer. Its like selling something you don't own for the currency of noteriety to people that don't need to buy it in the first place.

What the difference with a fractionite freeport, out of curiosity ?

In short the alliance you are associated with is just looking for more people to kill, you should really stop trying to sugar coat the offer people might take you more seriously.

The Statist has an insatible appetite for control. His sights are set on the next meal even before he has fully digested his last. He is constantly agitating for action. And in furtherance of that purpose, the Statist speaks in the tongue of the demagogue, concocting one pretext and grievance after another to manipulate public perceptions and build popular momentum for the divestiture of liberty and property from its rightful possessors.

Seems to sound familiar to words and actions of certain individuals and organizations now doesn't it.

I can understand your personal lack of trust towards GoonSwarm Federation and its individual members; indeed, I have neither the authority nor the inclination to promise you that the hypothetical situation you proposeGÇöthe sudden change of docking rights policies sometime in the futureGÇöwould not occur. I confirm and tell you this upfront, because integrity is something that I believe is important when dealing or speaking between stellar powers.

As a side note, this is a belief that is shared throughout my organisation. I invite you to do some more research and query those entities with whom my organisation has aligned itself over the years, and to share with the rest of The Summit what you find concerning our dealings with friends.

Jade Constantine;
I have mentioned previously in the commlink channel The Summit that I do not keep sums greater than 5 billion ISK liquid at any given time, due to the very public fact that I am an investor by trade and liquid assets in my wallet do not earn me a profit. I am willing to do this in perhaps a month or two, once present investments mature; though, in that time the relevance of this thread would have passed in the public memory.

I question what you hope to accomplish with this little stunt, since my willingness as an individual to give 30 billion ISK to a pretty face that asked nicely is hardly a reflection of the temperament of anyone else in my organisation, or of our leadership's disposition toward future intentions.

I suspect you simply hope that I will back down from your proposal so that you can point at my refusal to throw money away as somehow being indicative of something else. Care to prove me wrong?

Giving you 30 billion ISK is no more a "hazard" than a super-capital jumping through a cynosural field onto a hot battleground. You and I both know that this is not an exercise in trust: it is a publicity stunt which you are arranging so that you can point out my lack of cooperation should I decline.

It shows nothing of my trustworthiness, or that of my organisation; instead, it shows how willing I am to be fast and loose with my money

After looking this thread over, all I can conclude is that Jade is a better at trolling comms channels than Goonswarm.

I'm willing to admit this is a feat of some skill.

It's hardly a feat , more like a gross waste of time.

Corrected the revisionist unhistory of a meddling forum clown.

Dear Jade Constantine,
One thing that was never addressed, is what exactly did this alliance do to deserve this?

I hate to even infer this Jade, but without some kind of synopsis of what happened, how are the rest of us to know The Star Fraction are not an alliance full of extortionists?

As our executor is currently planetside, I will address this question only so much as to inform that Star Fraction reserves the right to address old grievances whenever and wherever it chooses in the interest of resolving these differences.



As for the readers of IGS, those whom have particular interest in knowing SF have also typically formulated an opinion as to the basic reasoning of SF's operations in space. For those whom haven't, I would invite a quick glance to what was asked of Trinova, the completion of which is available for anyone to view in the opening comments of this thread. This was what we asked of Trinova, which they provided and have lived up to their end of the arrangement to date, as have we.

As for how the war itself was prosecuted, that is a matter between Star Fraction and Trinova and I personally don't see much relevance to bystanders in a public forum.

This message was posted on behalf of Trinova and written by Phjil, the CEO of Unleashed' Fury.

I, Phjil, hereby apologise for the wrongful agression some of us, including myself, have shown towards the people of Star Fraction in the general loop area. We did not intend to provoke or antagonise anyone.

Trinova has changed its engagement policy concerning SF and will no longer attack its members once the war is over.

We would also like to thank SF for this opportunity to resolve things peacefully.

There's been a recent spate of threads regarding surrender to the Star Fraction alliance, and while I'm sure someone will disregard my two-isk's worth of opinion as "meaningless" because it disagrees with them, I'll exercise my right to voice it anyway.

I personally don't see the gain in public surrender, it offers little more to civil dispute than to feed the ego of the victor. Such matters were created, discussed, acted upon and negotated behind closed doors. Private affairs should not suddenly be thrust into a public spotlight, as it shows little more to this unaffiliated public eye than "Oh look, another SF ego inflation post from some poor bastards they beat around."

if the entire relationship and creation of this conflict were public, I would understand a public endng. As this was private I see little realistic gain outside of self gratification in it's ending.

Good ol Jade.

When proven wrong, she will never fail to double down.

*shakes head and disconnects*

Your opinion is noted Caellach Marellus.
But you will grant me leave to disagree.

Why does an organization make a thread about a new campaign? The production of a capital ship? The adoption of new logo? The beginning of a new initiative? The change of focus? Why does the summit find use for any of these things? It is about publicising a cause pure and simple. For many the cause is profit, for others the cause is simply organizational pride or ego? For us the cause is Radical FreeSpace and our belief that pilots of New Eden should assert their rights and power to travel and conduct business where they please and not bow down to the threats of road-blockers, slumlords and territorial imperialists.

When an NBSI pirate chooses to fire on a neutral starship in open space on the premise the interloper is "invading" their sovereignity that is not a "private" act. It is an act of violence that involves hundreds if not thousands of crewmen and women and may by direct consequence embroil hundreds of thousands more in conflict in the days and weeks to come.

The ending of such disputes (for the Star Fraction) is also not a private act. We see the ideological value in aggressors making apology for the NBSI tendencies and road-blocker practises that led them to hard places and consider such words full and appropriate examples of propaganda of the deed.

Your opinion is noted Caellach Marellus.
But you will grant me leave to disagree.

as a matter of interest, how the hell can a 40 man micro alliance control an area covering 7 systems, much less prevent corps from anchoring towers if they wish?

Malum Exuro: We will maintain the deep blue NAP, and continue to pay rent and participate in defense of the Loop. I understand there is some discussion of our poor treatment by Malum, and their lack of support during the initial war with SF. Not having 100% of the information, I am going to attribute this to two things GÇô our general lack of coordination, and Malum not getting 100% of the info. In this particular case, the war was brought about by our defense of the Loop for Malum. I will communicate to Malum that I expect support in any future wars caused by our continued defense of the Loop, and vice versa. We developed this relationship and I feel the only real way to gain allies in this game is to be true to your word. So until they really screw us over, we will maintain our word.

One thing I'd suggest pilot Libby to address with his Malum overlords is specific defense of Trinova industrial vessels in hisec.

Yesterday this Orca pilot learned a hard lesson on moving his vessel in wartime.

http://www.mordante.aquiss.com/SDorca.jpg

The irony here is that while the vessel was dying (to all of 3 frigates) a combined Malum/Mercenary fleet of 20 battleships was camping a lowsec gate against neutrals a handful of jumps away.

If I was on the "trinova counsel" I'd seriously consider raising this matter as an urgent point of order!

Hello again, Miss ConstantineGÇöand my fellow New Eden. It's been a small while, ne? I hope you've been well.

I just happened to be skimming this thread again (out of sheer coincidence and certainly not to gloat about your failure to answer certain points of recent history), and I happened upon this gem. Being the helpful member of the community that I am, I thought I would take the time to sit down with you and discuss this matter because it is near and dear to my heart-strings. You seem to be under the impression that whatever entity it is whose pilot recently lost an OrcaGÇöhonestly, I could not be bothered to checkGÇöhas reason to look upon that unhappy event with the same perspective held by the unfortunate pilot. Nothing could be furthest from the truth. In this Dionysian space-librarian in which we find ourselves, "hands off!" is the name of the game. You endorse it yourself with your claims of adoration: "Free Space," alongside cries of "Hey, listen to me!" and, "Gosh, how dare these 'people' with smaller post counts oppose my opinions?" But I digress.

In many if not the vast majority of corporations concerned with something besides being the personal entourage of a self-absorbed B-list spaceship celebrity, the loss of a ship for "stupid reasons" is a subject not of horror or tragedy but of shame or comedy. "Hey guys, did you hear about that one guy who lost an Orca to three frigates? Did you hear that those three frigates were from ~Star Fraction~ of all people? Guffaw! Let us chortle while polishing our monocles, then defenestration that wireless git. Serves him right!" The only loser in that entire debutante is the poor soap whose Oracle was lost. I hope you feel proud of yourself, Mister-and-Missus- Space Crusader!

On a completely unrelated note, have you checked to see if your kill qualifies for the Goonswarm Shrugged payout list?

Warm Regardless

*shrugs* means nothing to me

So the rest of us could laugh about it, of course. The Orca pilot was indeed rather stupid. Besides, isn't it your own alliance making sport of killing industrial ships?

Yes, we are! I am jealous that Miss Constantine beat us to that one.

So is it your testimony that the actions of Goonswarm Federation do not have any ideological meaning?

I am glad to hear that. Please speak up in our name the next time someone presents a conspiracy theory.

My fiancee thinks you sound fruity; though, I personally envision you as a vegetable.

Gallente Heavy Industries surrenders to The Star Fraction
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2011.11.07 23:47

The war between Gallente Heavy Industries and The Star Fraction is coming to an end. Gallente Heavy Industries has surrendered to The Star Fraction. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.

Clearly La belle amour has better taste, but if you wish to project sappho-phallic penetration fantasies on a summit debating partner in the privacy of your own mind who am I to object?

That your mind went directly towards sexual overtures is telling of you, not of me.

I honestly couldn't think of anything else sexy you could do with a vegetable.

I honestly couldn't think of anything else sexy you could do with a vegetable.

Am I to understand that you believe I think you're sexy?

Your ego really has no bounds, does it? It's like some sort of perpetual energy device.

Your signature is not Posthumanist, nor is it Freespace, whatever that is. Your signature appears to be a statement of obvious fact in an effort to seem profound.

You two sure are taking a lot of effort to undermine each other. I guess Lyris could be 'just trolling', as her kin put it.

You two sure are taking a lot of effort to undermine each other. I guess Lyris could be 'just trolling', as her kin put it.

I'm just waiting for them two stop arguing and start making out, happens in all the cheesy holo flicks.

Is this the part where I cross my arms and pout at the prospect of ever doing that, the part where I product a comically-oversized implement and bludgeon you with it for suggesting it, or the part where I blush and mutter to myself as a segue into a fantasy-laden internal monologue? You'll forgive me, but I just got this part yesterday and haven't yet had the time to rehearse my lines.

One would assume a brass ensemble, though I haven't the faintest clue how we'd respond to a rack of woodwinds.

I suppose then that it's in the better interest of the cluster to declare war on woodwinds, lest we realize an eventuality in which Jade Constantine and Lyris Nairn combine their posting power in a torrid affair of walls of text so titanic as to fully overwhelm all those who would dare read them.

I suppose then that it's in the better interest of the cluster to declare war on woodwinds, lest we realize an eventuality in which Jade Constantine and Lyris Nairn combine their posting power in a torrid affair of walls of text so titanic as to fully overwhelm all those who would dare read them.

Yeah but imagine the takings at the Box Office. Such a film must be penned!

this alliance for sale... 1.4B isk

It is possible some holdout reactionary elements of former Trinova will continue the fight outside the alliance shell (most notably) "unleashed Furries" .

Oh god furries.

Unleashed furries.

Even worse!

Actually thinking about it, ones on leashes border too close to the S&M kinky that unleashed may actually be preferable.

Poor show.


Star Fraction dec a corp to milk out an apology on the IGS after hunting haulers and industrials in highsec.

You're just fueling their collective ego. Have fun being their lackeys in future.


As a side note, the Fraction has decided to declare war on Moira, a second time. This one will be going mutual.