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Kismo
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Posted - 2009.07.24 06:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Marquis Jeladriel
It'll be interesting to see how far short it falls
Brutix
7x Neutron II (CN AM)
10mn MWD I, Scram II, LSE II, Invuln II (overload for ~4:30)
3x MFS II, RCU II, DC II
3x CDFE I
5x Hammerhead II
831 DPS, 62155 EHP WRT Scourge
TTK: 119 sec
Drake
589 DPS, 98851 EHP WRT CN AM (overload for ~3:00)
TTK: 105 sec
Let's mix it up and use ECM drones: 33.7% chance to jam. I'd like to remind you that this (and the previous discussion of ECM drones) is merely an extrapolated average case if they're allowed to sit in space. It won't happen that way, because you'll get (at most) 20 seconds of 'free' combat when you decide to pop drones - because that's exactly what he's going to do the moment he sees them!
Drake DPS => 424, TTK => 147 sec (est avg 50 seconds [2.5 cycles] jammed).
Brutix DPS => 672 TTK => 147 sec.
Conclusion: The shield tanked Brutix is a good contender, but I'm fairly confident that it's really only a contender in EFT-land because of the influence of jamming drones and tactics. I'd really expect a maximum aggregate jam time of 30 seconds (and more likely in the mid teens) - which leaves the Drake with a TTK of ~120 sec.
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Siobhan Amarr
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Posted - 2009.07.24 11:16:00 -
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and with an active tank? and maybe a nos?
i wouldn't expect any ship to win against another ship without using all its ship bonuses.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.24 11:20:00 -
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With the sad ammount of low slots + PG a brutix has, using its rep bonus is just a waste of a not that bad ship.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.07.24 11:51:00 -
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OP is a succesful troll...
I gotta give him 9/10 for getting 4 pages.
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Marquis Jeladriel
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Posted - 2009.07.24 14:33:00 -
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Cheers for running the numbers Kismo.
Was very useful - the 3% eifyr implants are maybe a touch on the expensive side, but I guess if you're aiming for them to specifically use then they're worth it for that extra little bit of edge. (The 5% ones on the other hand are rediculously unrealistic in price for your average pvper)
The 5% Zainou Implant isn't very expensive at all though. I picked one up in Aunia a few days ago for 4.5 mil  . It seems that they drop from storyline missions in that region with a high enough frequency to drive the price down. (Very Cheap compared to the price in Jita - 25mil from the top of my head)
The on paper DPS seems good enough to challenge both the HAM Drake or an AC Cane but I fear in game, the lack of a Stasis Webifier on the Brutix fit would put it at too much of a disadvantage in both cases (and Webber drones in this case just wouldn't cut it - only able to use 2)
Of course the 1v1 situation is very rare compared to the numerous other scenarios you may find yourself in with gate guns/rats/corpmates aiding either side providing either DPS/Tackle/Logistics - so the sheild tanked Brutix still remains a viable PVP Brawler.
Something to aim for I guess 
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SuiJuris
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Posted - 2009.07.24 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Logan
OP is a succesful troll...
I gotta give him 9/10 for getting 4 pages.
Screw rather or not the OP was trying to troll, This was 4 pages of unadulterated EFT warrioring at its finest, Which is always fun.
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Gallente
The Avalon Foundation
The Drift.
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Posted - 2009.07.24 16:27:00 -
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one thing this thread does show is that across the races the BC class is pretty reasonably balanced and fights often come down to actual player skill with stategy and counter strategy.
who would have thought.
until the rest of the blob turn up anyway.
and ello kismo mate, hope alls well, i has another pr0 alliance :)
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