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Vanessa Vasquez	Posted - 2009.07.21 14:36:00 - [1] I just got kicked from a BF2 server for beeing afk too long. I know most of all other MMOs have an autokick function. I find it very irritating why EVE doesn't. I know a lot of guys who just keep permanently running their eve client while sitting on station or cloaked, macro mine or whatever. So, my question is: Why is there no auto-disconnect feature in EVE which disconnects users after a certain amount of idle time? Quote: [21:02:14] McKinlay > it's always nice to be out-failed :P. there are no winners or losers just people that fail harder
5pinDizzy Amarr SMS Fleet Services	Posted - 2009.07.21 14:37:00 - [2] Being afk kicked could get you killed in Eve.
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.07.21 14:38:00 - [3] because it would be stooooopid -- RaTTuS @ InEve, Capital Prints for sale
Benco97 Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.21 14:39:00 - [4] There is, it's called "Socket Closed" It only works for a lucky few and it really makes the game more exciting because it can strike at any moment! Originally by: P'uck You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
xBLACKNOVAx Black Nova Investments	Posted - 2009.07.21 14:39:00 - [5] Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez macro mine [ If they were macro mining then the server wouldn't know they are afk . Navigator Killed my sig
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.07.21 14:41:00 - [6] (Not so) stealth AFK cloaker whine… ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence	Posted - 2009.07.21 14:41:00 - [7] I could be talking out of my arse, but I think a LOOOONG time ago (2005) there was some official talk of implementing this, a 1.5hr timer.
Vanessa Vasquez	Posted - 2009.07.21 14:45:00 - [8] Edited by: Vanessa Vasquez on 21/07/2009 14:46:11 Originally by: RaTTuS because it would be stooooopid I take it you are seriously worried about our climate changes and therefore supporting hundreds of US players, their alts and their dogs beeing logged in sitting in a station and wasting energy and resources BIG time? @ SPin when u know you get autokicked after 30 mins inactivity, you get safe before that. people tend to manage that every day, it's called downtime Quote: [21:02:14] McKinlay > it's always nice to be out-failed :P. there are no winners or losers just people that fail harder
Gunnanmon Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.07.21 14:47:00 - [9] If they implemented one there would be about 12 people in Eve at any given time. They like big numbers, lag or not. Signature locked for discussing moderation. Navigator
KaarBaak Minmatar Squirrel Team	Posted - 2009.07.21 14:54:00 - [10] Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez Edited by: Vanessa Vasquez on 21/07/2009 14:46:11 Originally by: RaTTuS because it would be stooooopid I take it you are seriously worried about our climate changes and therefore supporting hundreds of US players, their alts and their dogs beeing logged in sitting in a station and wasting energy and resources BIG time? @ SPin when u know you get autokicked after 30 mins inactivity, you get safe before that. people tend to manage that every day, it's called downtime I need to see the linkage and details showing the change in energy consumption when I'm logged in and when I'm logged out, please. To that end, perhaps YOU should set the features in your computer to shutdown completely when inactivity hits 30 min. KB Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.21 14:54:00 - [11] You need to switch your ISP to Tiscali to access the auto-disconnect function. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Vanessa Vasquez	Posted - 2009.07.21 15:03:00 - [12] Originally by: KaarBaak I need to see the linkage and details showing the change in energy consumption when I'm logged in and when I'm logged out, please. My idle desktop is 153 watts, running eve client while idleing in station is 383 watts. If you don't believe me ... ... all you need is a device that looks like this http://www.e-werk-mittelbaden.de/mm/strommessgeraet_1.jpg It costs less than 20 bucks, and you just plug it in between your PC and your power socket. see 4 yourself ... Quote: [21:02:14] McKinlay > it's always nice to be out-failed :P. there are no winners or losers just people that fail harder
Tramp Oline	Posted - 2009.07.21 15:12:00 - [13] If they implemented that then everyone would just run a macro to move the mouse around while they were afk to get around the afk disconnect. Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez I just got kicked from a BF2 server for beeing afk too long. I know most of all other MMOs have an autokick function. I find it very irritating why EVE doesn't. I know a lot of guys who just keep permanently running their eve client while sitting on station or cloaked, macro mine or whatever. So, my question is: Why is there no auto-disconnect feature in EVE which disconnects users after a certain amount of idle time?
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.07.21 15:19:00 - [14] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 21/07/2009 15:20:43 Auto-disconnect is a seriously bad idea for a feature. I remember back in RMR when it seemed like I'd always be disconnected after a certain amount of time AFK. Very, very lame. edit: also MMOs are not in any way comparable to BF2 where OP got kicked from for being AFK. BF2 matches pit at most 32 players against another 32. Even having one guy AFK hurts the team. In Eve you have up to 50,000+ people on at a time, all doing their own thing.
5pinDizzy Amarr SMS Fleet Services	Posted - 2009.07.21 15:21:00 - [15] Originally by: Tramp Oline If they implemented that then everyone would just run a macro to move the mouse around while they were afk to get around the afk disconnect. Nah I wouldn't, I'd get one of those balancing bird toys like Homer Simpson had to press a button on the keyboard every 5 seconds or so.
Nicholas Barker Black Nova Corp	Posted - 2009.07.21 15:22:00 - [16] hellooooo mouse moving macros. ------ back from 90day forum ban.
xBLACKNOVAx Black Nova Investments	Posted - 2009.07.21 15:30:00 - [17] Originally by: Rodj Blake You need to switch your ISP to Tiscali to access the auto-disconnect function. I lol'd, I remember their auto-disconnect feature, may they burn . Navigator Killed my sig
KaarBaak Minmatar Squirrel Team	Posted - 2009.07.21 15:31:00 - [18] Why would you leave your computer on burning 153watts if you're not using it?? Why do you hate nature so much?? When I'm not using my computer I turn it off and unplug it from the wall. Because I care about the Nature! You sir, are an enemy of nature and destroyer of worlds. I pity the birds and trees you have caused the deaths of. KB KB Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2009.07.21 15:32:00 - [19] Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 21/07/2009 15:31:55 Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez I just got kicked from a BF2 server for beeing afk too long. I know most of all other MMOs have an autokick function. I find it very irritating why EVE doesn't. I know a lot of guys who just keep permanently running their eve client while sitting on station or cloaked, macro mine or whatever. So, my question is: Why is there no auto-disconnect feature in EVE which disconnects users after a certain amount of idle time? Because EVE is not WOW or BF2.
Armoured C Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.21 15:44:00 - [20] Originally by: 5pinDizzy Being afk kicked could get you killed in Eve. yrah we dont need a afk kicker we need more deaths support stop selling alliance tourney places post Armoured C forum extrodinare
Aurora Nyx Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.07.21 16:10:00 - [21] I was under the impression we had an auto-kick system. It activates when you jump with your fleet into an engagement, or when in the oposing factions territory so that the NPC Navy come to the log-off point and destroy you before you can log back in. ..... oh that's not what you meant.
Arrs Grazznic Pawn Sauce	Posted - 2009.07.21 16:19:00 - [22] Originally by: Benco97 There is, it's called "Socket Closed" It only works for a lucky few and it really makes the game more exciting because it can strike at any moment! Indeed! Cheers, Arrs
Vanessa Vasquez	Posted - 2009.07.21 16:27:00 - [23] all these answers, and not a single one that actually explains why "we" don't need it. Impressive autokick afk'ers! There is no need to be cloaked 23/7 somehwere and no need to sit at any station longer forever. Not even Jita Quote: [21:02:14] McKinlay > it's always nice to be out-failed :P. there are no winners or losers just people that fail harder
KaarBaak Minmatar Squirrel Team	Posted - 2009.07.21 16:33:00 - [24] Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez all these answers, and not a single one that actually explains why "we" don't need it. Impressive autokick afk'ers! There is no need to be cloaked 23/7 somehwere and no need to sit at any station longer forever. Not even Jita YOU are the one requesting a change. I checked...there is no explanation in the thread for why we DO need it. KB KB Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land.
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.07.21 16:37:00 - [25] I'm confused, ever since I've resubbed I get hit with the auto disconnect "feature" all the time in heavily populated mission hubs, and then I also get to experience the "you are number 50 in the queue" upon trying to log back in to finish a mission.
Blastrodamus	Posted - 2009.07.21 16:38:00 - [26] Originally by: KaarBaak Why would you leave your computer on burning 153watts if you're not using it?? Why do you hate nature so much?? yes i hate nature, that's why i connect to eve in the morning and stay connected until downtime, whether i'm playing or not.
Makach'Mouchkil Amarr	Posted - 2009.07.21 16:57:00 - [27] He he but there IS auto-disconnect feature in eve. It disconnects you every day 11 GMT
Robert Caldera	Posted - 2009.07.21 17:04:00 - [28] Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez I just got kicked from a BF2 server for beeing afk too long. I know most of all other MMOs have an autokick function. I find it very irritating why EVE doesn't. I know a lot of guys who just keep permanently running their eve client while sitting on station or cloaked, macro mine or whatever. So, my question is: Why is there no auto-disconnect feature in EVE which disconnects users after a certain amount of idle time? because sitting afk or cloaked makes people like you insane, some good way to terrorize bears who cant move anymore in insecure space :-DDD Seriously, why do you care about afk people???
Izztyrr Maemtor Caldari	Posted - 2009.07.21 17:28:00 - [29] Edited by: Izztyrr Maemtor on 21/07/2009 17:28:59 Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez I take it you are seriously worried about our climate changes and therefore supporting hundreds of US players, their alts and their dogs beeing logged in sitting in a station and wasting energy and resources BIG time? You third worlders just love to poke fun at us Yanks. That's okay we can take it. BTW not only does my dog have his own account. He likes to play from inside of my SUV. I keep it running so he can enjoy the AC.
Vanessa Vasquez	Posted - 2009.07.21 17:35:00 - [30] Originally by: Robert Caldera Seriously, why do you care about afk people??? Simply because they anoy :) the afk cloaker who might be in a pilgrim and prevents me from rattin the afk station sitter who keeps me camping the station forever the afk ratter who gets me traveling to his system for gankage the afk ally mates which indicate a crowded system with to few belts for you all ;) the afk perma login alts indicating a HUGE corp with lots of active members all the time The bottom line is simple: They have no pain, just gain. Seriously, there is no need they can do this all day long. 30 - 60 mins is still anoying for all of the above, right? And on top, i really think it's a uneccessary waste of resources. Quote: [21:02:14] McKinlay > it's always nice to be out-failed :P. there are no winners or losers just people that fail harder

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