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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.07.21 17:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
the afk cloaker who might be in a pilgrim and prevents me from rattin
How can he prevent you from doing anything if he's AFK?
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the afk station sitter who keeps me camping the station forever
Wouldn't make any different if he wasn't AFK.
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the afk ratter who gets me traveling to his system for gankage
How is that a problem? AFK = free kill.
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the afk ally mates which indicate a crowded system with to few belts for you all ;)
Say what?!
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the afk perma login alts indicating a HUGE corp with lots of active members all the time
…so…?
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The bottom line is simple: They have no pain, just gain.
They have no gain either, if they're AFK.
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Haakelen
Gallente
Nation of Muppets
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Posted - 2009.07.21 17:44:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
the afk cloaker
Totally knew it.
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Xianbei
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Posted - 2009.07.21 18:01:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
Why is there no auto-disconnect feature in EVE which disconnects users after a certain amount of idle time?
er because anyone with half a brain can work around it anyway, making it pointless
so many choices too. you have got macros, an old mouse pad that makes your optical mouse jump around, putting whiskas on the keyboard so your cat visits every once in awhile, or, dadumdumduuum a program specifically designed to keep the keyboard active or even a simple VB script that writes to the keyboard buffer.
if there was an idle timer in Eve, I would immediately setup some method to circumvent it
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Vanessa Vasquez
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Posted - 2009.07.21 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Xianbei
Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
Why is there no auto-disconnect feature in EVE which disconnects users after a certain amount of idle time?
er because anyone with half a brain can work around it anyway, making it pointless
so many choices too. you have got macros, an old mouse pad that makes your optical mouse jump around, putting whiskas on the keyboard so your cat visits every once in awhile, or, dadumdumduuum a program specifically designed to keep the keyboard active or even a simple VB script that writes to the keyboard buffer.
if there was an idle timer in Eve, I would immediately setup some method to circumvent it
And why would you do such a thing? You are afk, you can totally log out.
Anyways, you know whats actually pointless? Posting here and expecting something constructive.
Confirming no autokick is needed. can be closed
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Komi Toran
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Posted - 2009.07.21 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
Edited by: Vanessa Vasquez on 21/07/2009 14:46:11
Originally by: RaTTuS
because it would be stooooopid
I take it you are seriously worried about our climate changes and therefore supporting hundreds of US players, their alts and their dogs beeing logged in sitting in a station and wasting energy and resources BIG time? 
Just how does having thousands of computers running on earth affect solar output? I'm always confused by this...
Plus, it's looking like a year without summer in my neck of the woods. Need the CPU burning to keep warm.
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Ruzel
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Posted - 2009.07.21 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 21/07/2009 15:20:43
also MMOs are not in any way comparable to BF2 where OP got kicked from for being AFK. BF2 matches pit at most 32 players against another 32. Even having one guy AFK hurts the team. In Eve you have up to 50,000+ people on at a time, all doing their own thing.
Not to mention that losing a match in BF2 is no big deal, whereas losing a ship in EVE means days, or even weeks worth of isk.
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Tramp Oline
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Posted - 2009.07.21 20:07:00 -
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I think we do need an autokick function for AFKers. If I'm AFK it should kick every active player in my systm so that I won't annoy them. 
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MasterEnt
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Posted - 2009.07.21 20:31:00 -
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And how does AFk affect you exactly?
Does it just bug you... that is a great reason.
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lolzrelgions
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Posted - 2009.07.21 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Komi Toran
Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
Edited by: Vanessa Vasquez on 21/07/2009 14:46:11
Originally by: RaTTuS
because it would be stooooopid
I take it you are seriously worried about our climate changes and therefore supporting hundreds of US players, their alts and their dogs beeing logged in sitting in a station and wasting energy and resources BIG time?
Just how does having thousands of computers running on earth affect solar output? I'm always confused by this...
Plus, it's looking like a year without summer in my neck of the woods. Need the CPU burning to keep warm.
CCP OBVIOUSLY doesn't care about global warming or they would implement an auto disconnect...make that auto computer shutdown.
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SentryRaven
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.21 20:37:00 -
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Thanks for no longer being in KIA, I'd be so fkin embarassed if you still were..... holy sh!t.....
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.07.21 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
I just got kicked from a BF2 server for beeing afk too long. I know most of all other MMOs have an autokick function.
Name one MMO that has an auto-kick function after 30 minutes or 1 hour or somesuch.
BF2 is not "really" a MMO, it's "actually" a FPS (ok, a FPS/someotherstuff hybrid, but still not what you'd call a "proper" MMO).
Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
My idle desktop is 153 watts, running eve client while idleing in station is 383 watts.
Let's say 300 W per idle player, times 20k idle players tops, that's 6 MW worldwide. Meh, peanuts.
Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
Why is there no auto-disconnect feature in EVE which disconnects users after a certain amount of idle time?
THERE IS ONE. It's called "daily downtime".
Oh, so you don't like the fact it's only after max 23 hours of idleness ?
Well, boo-hoo.
In EVE, idle//AFK pilots barely use any server resources - it's the ACTIVE ones that are CPU hogs.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.07.21 20:47:00 -
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As long as Local remains the uber-intelligence tool, cloaking with the appearance of AFK remains a legitimate tactic.
Setting local to delayed mode would be a serious nerf to the AFK cloakers, as they would no longer appear in the magical list to terrorize and annoy you.
~ Santiago Fahahrri
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Xander Nilunar
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Posted - 2009.07.21 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
You need to switch your ISP to Tiscali to access the auto-disconnect function.
Lol, Agreed.
Stupid Tiscali...
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp
Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2009.07.21 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
Originally by: Robert Caldera
Seriously, why do you care about afk people???
Simply because they anoy :)
the afk cloaker who might be in a pilgrim and prevents me from rattin
the afk station sitter who keeps me camping the station forever
the afk ratter who gets me traveling to his system for gankage
the afk ally mates which indicate a crowded system with to few belts for you all ;)
the afk perma login alts indicating a HUGE corp with lots of active members all the time
The bottom line is simple: They have no pain, just gain. Seriously, there is no need they can do this all day long. 30 - 60 mins is still anoying for all of the above, right?
And on top, i really think it's a uneccessary waste of resources.
do you check under you bed before you go to sleep for monsters? Seriously, I hear its a good idea!
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Originally by: CCP Oveur
Just donęt forget the reach-around.
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Vanessa Vasquez
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Posted - 2009.07.21 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: SentryRaven
Thanks for no longer being in KIA, I'd be so fkin embarassed if you still were..... holy sh!t.....
Well, you just made it public that i actually was 
PS: To be honest, i'm actually fkin embarassed i was in KIA ... every time i look down the awesome fittings on your killboard 
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SG commander
Caldari
Gank Bears
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Posted - 2009.07.22 03:44:00 -
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nice troll, 8/10
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Taedrin
Gallente
Golden Mechanization Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.07.22 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
I just got kicked from a BF2 server for beeing afk too long. I know most of all other MMOs have an autokick function.
Name one MMO that has an auto-kick function after 30 minutes or 1 hour or somesuch.
BF2 is not "really" a MMO, it's "actually" a FPS (ok, a FPS/someotherstuff hybrid, but still not what you'd call a "proper" MMO).
WoW will do it in two tiers. After 30 minutes of being AFK, the game will log you out back to character selection screen. 30 more minutes after that, and the game will log you out entirely and you will be back at the log in screen.
But then again, WoW is not so much of a game as it is a cancer.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.07.22 06:45:00 -
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Nooo that would kill my awesome online average/day ratio!
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.22 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Nooo that would kill my awesome online average/day ratio!
You cant get a much more successful troll....
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.07.22 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
I just got kicked from a BF2 server for beeing afk too long. I know most of all other MMOs have an autokick function.
Name one MMO that has an auto-kick function after 30 minutes or 1 hour or somesuch.
BF2 is not "really" a MMO, it's "actually" a FPS (ok, a FPS/someotherstuff hybrid, but still not what you'd call a "proper" MMO).
WoW will do it in two tiers. After 30 minutes of being AFK, the game will log you out back to character selection screen. 30 more minutes after that, and the game will log you out entirely and you will be back at the log in screen.
But then again, WoW is not so much of a game as it is a cancer.
A cancer that actively tries to tell you that its bad by logging you off, disconnecting you and completely shutting down one day a week.
But just like that box of doughnuts, you can't keep yourself from taking it in, no matter how crappy it tastes afterwards.
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Darth Skorpius
352 Industries
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.07.22 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
I just got kicked from a BF2 server for beeing afk too long. I know most of all other MMOs have an autokick function.
Name one MMO that has an auto-kick function after 30 minutes or 1 hour or somesuch.
BF2 is not "really" a MMO, it's "actually" a FPS (ok, a FPS/someotherstuff hybrid, but still not what you'd call a "proper" MMO).
WoW will do it in two tiers. After 30 minutes of being AFK, the game will log you out back to character selection screen. 30 more minutes after that, and the game will log you out entirely and you will be back at the log in screen.
But then again, WoW is not so much of a game as it is a cancer.
Lord Of The Rings Online also does this. it used to be possible to not get afk logged out by activating the autorun, as you cant log out while moving, but they changed it so that afk auto log ignores movement. its like the isk farmers and spam bots, they just adapt to everything we try to get rid of them, and afkers will just adapt when they need to as well
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Roa Gul
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Posted - 2009.07.22 08:13:00 -
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Age of Conan does it as well. TBh, the op is right. I don't see any reason why people have to stay logged in all the time. You go afk, get disconnected after 30/60 minutes, you come back, log back in. simple as that. |
Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.07.22 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Roa Gul
Age of Conan does it as well. TBh, the op is right. I don't see any reason why people have to stay logged in all the time. You go afk, get disconnected after 30/60 minutes, you come back, log back in. simple as that.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.07.22 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Roa Gul
Age of Conan does it as well. TBh, the op is right. I don't see any reason why people have to stay logged in all the time. You go afk, get disconnected after 30/60 minutes, you come back, log back in. simple as that.
Let me guess... you DON'T remain attackable for minutes after you get auto-logged-out in those games, and you don't lose anything of significance when you die there, do you ?
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Kaptain Kruncher
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Posted - 2009.07.22 09:06:00 -
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Mother Nature's death, burning forests and Macro Miners aside...
It's tactics. This is a game of constant war and competition. Spying and disinformation are the one of the cheapest and effective of tactics. Been around way before MMOs, read Sun Tzu- The Art of War.
Seems to work too, if you have spent more than five minutes camped outside a station waiting for your rival to undock- and he is AFK- or running an alt somewhere else- you have been manipulated into wasting your time and resources while your opponent is watchin Gilligan's Island or running Level 4 missions- costing him nothing. Tada!
Also you fail to see the bright side of your little dilema- You could be AFK mining Veldspar and playing BF 2 at the same time.
Final comment, as opposed to fake edit, Why don't you post this crap in the Features Forum?
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Some Advisor
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Posted - 2009.07.22 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Vanessa Vasquez
Edited by: Vanessa Vasquez on 21/07/2009 14:46:11
Originally by: RaTTuS
because it would be stooooopid
I take it you are seriously worried about our climate changes and therefore supporting hundreds of US players, their alts and their dogs beeing logged in sitting in a station and wasting energy and resources BIG time?
how would autokicking making it use less power?
if youre idle, you dont get much packets of data and action, and if youre kicked your PC is still running.
if that cloaker is afk, why are you worried? :)
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Spigoe
Svea Rike
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.22 09:17:00 -
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Originally by: lolzrelgions
CCP OBVIOUSLY doesn't care about global warming or they would implement an auto disconnect...make that auto computer shutdown.
They do care, they even made one patch delete boot.ini. |
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