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Zastrow J
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:28:00 -
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For those of you who don't live in 0.0 let me give you some background:
Most 0.0 outposts don't have a lot of office space. When you're trying to have an alliance of several corps live in one of these outposts, each office slot is valuable. When you don't have any hangar publically accessible for, say, capital ship pilots to access corp jump fuel, it becomes a huge hassle on a corp level. POS corp hangar arrays are not a suitable alternative because they go offline when the POS is reinforced, meaning you can't access anything inside. On an individual level, pilots can't set their clones to the outpost remotely without an office, adding one more thing that just makes life in 0.0 a pain in the ass.
As it stands now, corporations that own a 0.0 outpost control who is allowed to rent new offices and how much these offices cost. If they sieze an outpost from a hostile alliance, generally the hostile alliance will rent all the office space on the way out to "salt the earth". The conquering force can, at best, uncheck the "publically available" option and wait for the hostile offices to expire, but herein lies the problem: In addition to the month of rent they just paid for, the office owner can also renew for the next month, even if the station owner has made that office slot unavailable. The result is that the office slot is unavailable for up to TWO MONTHS. TWO MONTHS. Alliances are born and die in this hilariously long time period. You can have Sov3, jump bridges and cyno jammers, and still be weeks away from hostile offices expiring.
So, allow station owners unrent offices at will. The effect of this is the unrented offices' corp hangar assets get put into "impound" so if the station switches hands again, the owner just unimpounds it, whoopty doo, but it lets the conquering station owner actually be able to properly function and live in his new piece of 0.0 real estate.
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Sexile
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:30:00 -
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makes sense to me |
Ex IIe
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:30:00 -
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Kreila
babby gon cry
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:32:00 -
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This should have been done years ago.
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hello zxcv
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: hello zxcv on 21/07/2009 19:32:25
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Daniel Vosovic
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:33:00 -
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:supports:
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Daroh
RUS
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:34:00 -
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yeh...absolutly agree
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Pringlescan
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:37:00 -
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Lets do it.
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narutochan37
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: narutochan37 on 21/07/2009 19:41:07
Why are you trying to change the status quo? Just leave it as it is so CCP can focus on more important changes, like their upcoming COSMOS social spaceship networking website.
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Frocke
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:44:00 -
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Nanrof
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:45:00 -
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Robert Jones
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:47:00 -
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Makes sense.
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Dawn French
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:48:00 -
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d[o]_[o]b
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Courthouse
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:56:00 -
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(b^_^)b
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Galler FLAke
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 20:00:00 -
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Sounds good.
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Drake Draconis
Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.07.21 20:06:00 -
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There should be a 15 to 30 day "Eviction Notice" and then all the stuffs get trashed or turned over to the new owner.
Supported.
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CEO of Shadow Cadre
http://www.shadowcadre.com
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Dependable, Honorable, Intelligent, No-nonsense
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OldPueblo
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 20:27:00 -
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Common sense, why I never!
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Jymmybob
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 20:44:00 -
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Ghitza
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 20:58:00 -
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Psilocin
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 21:18:00 -
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I fully support this long overdue change.
FOFOFOOOO! |
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De'Veldrin
Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.07.21 21:30:00 -
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While I support this, it makes logical sense, and will thus never be implemented.
--Vel
Experience is what you get right after you need it.
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Val Streth
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 21:41:00 -
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Sounds good to me.
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One hand on their junk and the other pounding their keyboard throwing Rifter after Rifter at us every day. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 21:49:00 -
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Zastrow told me to post here!
(and its a good suggestion anyway)
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Pnuka
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.21 21:51:00 -
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verde shrimp
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Posted - 2009.07.21 22:03:00 -
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This needs to happen. Not having enough offices for not just your allies, or alliance members but a single one of your corps when you take a station is beyond ******ed.
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Epegi Givo
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.07.21 22:36:00 -
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Edited by: Epegi Givo on 21/07/2009 22:36:33
yes.
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My other alt is a Ferrari
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Treelox
Amarr
Seppuku Warriors
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Posted - 2009.07.21 22:57:00 -
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NOT SUPPORTED
The current mechanic is perfectly within the griefing/pvping spirt of EVE. If it was infinite maybe I would say it should be changed, but 2 months sounds like an sufficent ammount of time to allow the losers get just a tad of revenge on the new station owners.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.07.21 23:30:00 -
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I can see some hardcore griefing happening if offices can be arbitrarily placed into impound - forcing a fire sale is one thing, but making it not even saleable?
I'd prefer that this be implemented with a bit of a delay on it - say, a week to let people at least fire-sale their stuff, or contract it into personal hangars. This won't be such a big deal in cases of conquest(since you know it's coming with time to spare), but in cases of alliance drama and such, it'd be a reasonable defense mechanism. That said, the broad strokes I support.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.07.21 23:47:00 -
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You should be able to deny them renewal. and any forced unrent should have a grace period of 2-4 weeks.
supported.
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Bobbeh
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.07.22 00:08:00 -
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Completely Needed there are times where even the station holder cant get an office for a month cause the alliance they procured it from unrented and rented for max amount of time
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