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Lianhaun	Posted - 2004.09.30 14:44:00 - [121] Edited by: Lianhaun on 30/09/2004 14:45:54 Originally by: Aneu Angellus Sassinak vs http://freespace.virgin.net/aneu.dean/sniper.jpg I put my money on the pu$$y ***** will always beat Sass in the end. He just needs to admit it. continues banter with Sassinak Leafo: you are just cruel. Dont you feel a bit bad for us? This is not a hijack
Lianhaun	Posted - 2004.09.30 14:44:00 - [122] Edited by: Lianhaun on 30/09/2004 14:45:54 Originally by: Aneu Angellus Sassinak vs http://freespace.virgin.net/aneu.dean/sniper.jpg I put my money on the pu$$y ***** will always beat Sass in the end. He just needs to admit it. continues banter with Sassinak Leafo: you are just cruel. Dont you feel a bit bad for us? This is not a hijack
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.09.30 14:45:00 - [123] Originally by: Lianhaun Edited by: Lianhaun on 30/09/2004 14:45:54 Originally by: Aneu Angellus Sassinak vs http://freespace.virgin.net/aneu.dean/sniper.jpg I put my money on the pu$$y ***** will always beat Sass in the end. He just needs to admit it. continues banter with Sassinak Leafo: you are just cruel. Dont you feel a bit bad for us? He's just annoyed coz he aint got one... ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.09.30 14:45:00 - [124] Originally by: Lianhaun Edited by: Lianhaun on 30/09/2004 14:45:54 Originally by: Aneu Angellus Sassinak vs http://freespace.virgin.net/aneu.dean/sniper.jpg I put my money on the pu$$y ***** will always beat Sass in the end. He just needs to admit it. continues banter with Sassinak Leafo: you are just cruel. Dont you feel a bit bad for us? He's just annoyed coz he aint got one... ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
Javi	Posted - 2004.09.30 14:55:00 - [125] Originally by: KIAEddZ Nice report DBP. Much less off the expected smack, that you normally are prone to, far more objective and honest review of the situation, I was more than pleasently surprised. I would only say 1 thing though, warping into a gate does not put you on the tactical underdog chair. You can be setup for whatever range you choose, and attack a camped set of ships who have no idea what range to prepare for. That is what happened last night. The lag issue effects (from my pov) both teams pretty fairly, with the team warping in not loading the gate scene, and the team at the gate not being able to see the guys warping in. In the 2 recent fleet battles I have been involved in, I was targetted and in structure b4 I could even see any hostiles in my space. (I'm guessing I am a primary Target :( :() Last night was a great fight, although I only managed to cath the very end of it, Teamspeak told me the story, and your ability to respond with more support ship and battleships from support ship pilots that went down with no podding, was key to your slight upper hand at the end of the fight. Lessons have been learnt on both sides I am sure, and I know, as proabbly for you, the PA cannot wait for the next one. Again, no flaming intended, was an awesome battle, just wanted to raise a point of interest, tactical range, nothing more nothing less. Props to ALL. not trying to ruin the thread or start a debate but... you do know that with that many ships, the attackers are surely to lag more when warping in. took me over 2 mins to load space, which i'm pretty sure would have given you time enough to switch ammo/crystals for proper range -- "well..." -Estarriol, Evolution AZN Calculat
Javi	Posted - 2004.09.30 14:55:00 - [126] Originally by: KIAEddZ Nice report DBP. Much less off the expected smack, that you normally are prone to, far more objective and honest review of the situation, I was more than pleasently surprised. I would only say 1 thing though, warping into a gate does not put you on the tactical underdog chair. You can be setup for whatever range you choose, and attack a camped set of ships who have no idea what range to prepare for. That is what happened last night. The lag issue effects (from my pov) both teams pretty fairly, with the team warping in not loading the gate scene, and the team at the gate not being able to see the guys warping in. In the 2 recent fleet battles I have been involved in, I was targetted and in structure b4 I could even see any hostiles in my space. (I'm guessing I am a primary Target :( :() Last night was a great fight, although I only managed to cath the very end of it, Teamspeak told me the story, and your ability to respond with more support ship and battleships from support ship pilots that went down with no podding, was key to your slight upper hand at the end of the fight. Lessons have been learnt on both sides I am sure, and I know, as proabbly for you, the PA cannot wait for the next one. Again, no flaming intended, was an awesome battle, just wanted to raise a point of interest, tactical range, nothing more nothing less. Props to ALL. not trying to ruin the thread or start a debate but... you do know that with that many ships, the attackers are surely to lag more when warping in. took me over 2 mins to load space, which i'm pretty sure would have given you time enough to switch ammo/crystals for proper range -- "well..." -Estarriol, Evolution AZN Calculat
Cleopatera	Posted - 2004.09.30 15:15:00 - [127] Originally by: Sassinak Cool. Well, i'll have a few beers first then warp in on my own I'LL HAV THE BLOODY LOT OF YA I WILL!!! /me shakes fist I tried that..... it didn't work too well ------------------------------------------- Voted "Best"
Cleopatera	Posted - 2004.09.30 15:15:00 - [128] Originally by: Sassinak Cool. Well, i'll have a few beers first then warp in on my own I'LL HAV THE BLOODY LOT OF YA I WILL!!! /me shakes fist I tried that..... it didn't work too well ------------------------------------------- Voted "Best"
Waagaa Ktlehr	Posted - 2004.09.30 15:50:00 - [129] O_o Please do Leafo! Please do! That would be invaluable!! :) Originally by: Sassinak Originally by: Leafo FYI Just got FRAPS from the battle (I wasn't there). As soon as I get off work I will try and make a video of yesterdays fight. So that all of you bastards that were there can see how good you did and so that the rest of us can be even more jealous! //Leafo you should ask some of our guys for their fraps also, it would be a nice twist in a vid to add both perspectives =) and both viewpoints of the fighters ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
Waagaa Ktlehr	Posted - 2004.09.30 15:50:00 - [130] O_o Please do Leafo! Please do! That would be invaluable!! :) Originally by: Sassinak Originally by: Leafo FYI Just got FRAPS from the battle (I wasn't there). As soon as I get off work I will try and make a video of yesterdays fight. So that all of you bastards that were there can see how good you did and so that the rest of us can be even more jealous! //Leafo you should ask some of our guys for their fraps also, it would be a nice twist in a vid to add both perspectives =) and both viewpoints of the fighters ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
meowcat	Posted - 2004.09.30 16:01:00 - [131] if i'm completely honest, and as an impartial observer, I have to say that i prefer the whiny-smack-you-logged-your-blob no-we-didn't-you-did-you-pussehs threads. all this mutual admiration and good sportmanship is a bit sickening tbh.
meowcat	Posted - 2004.09.30 16:01:00 - [132] if i'm completely honest, and as an impartial observer, I have to say that i prefer the whiny-smack-you-logged-your-blob no-we-didn't-you-did-you-pussehs threads. all this mutual admiration and good sportmanship is a bit sickening tbh.
whejl	Posted - 2004.09.30 16:15:00 - [133] Originally by: KIAHicks or is it a server side problem? Clearly serversided this time, had lots of fps, still not seeing all of the yellow guys etc..
whejl	Posted - 2004.09.30 16:15:00 - [134] Originally by: KIAHicks or is it a server side problem? Clearly serversided this time, had lots of fps, still not seeing all of the yellow guys etc..
DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2004.09.30 16:25:00 - [135] Originally by: Sassinak Originally by: Leafo FYI Just got FRAPS from the battle (I wasn't there). As soon as I get off work I will try and make a video of yesterdays fight. So that all of you bastards that were there can see how good you did and so that the rest of us can be even more jealous! //Leafo you should ask some of our guys for their fraps also, it would be a nice twist in a vid to add both perspectives =) and both viewpoints of the fighters I'll quite happily donate my Fraps footage to Leafo - I got about 1.5gb's worth Black Nova Corporation COO
DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2004.09.30 16:25:00 - [136] Originally by: Sassinak Originally by: Leafo FYI Just got FRAPS from the battle (I wasn't there). As soon as I get off work I will try and make a video of yesterdays fight. So that all of you bastards that were there can see how good you did and so that the rest of us can be even more jealous! //Leafo you should ask some of our guys for their fraps also, it would be a nice twist in a vid to add both perspectives =) and both viewpoints of the fighters I'll quite happily donate my Fraps footage to Leafo - I got about 1.5gb's worth Black Nova Corporation COO
Teelmaster	Posted - 2004.09.30 16:42:00 - [137] Edited by: Teelmaster on 30/09/2004 16:44:24 Yeah, I listened in on teamspeak as well. Sounded alright. My personal views though, are that those kind of battles just really suck. Who dies tends to die is the unfortunate people that lag out/crash/lag some more instead of actual piloting skills. I tend to prefer the smaller skirmishes that are less dependent on who lags the most and more dependent on tacts/maneuvering. I also hate waiting 3 hours to gather the necessary people to counter 30+ bs blobs and get ganked before my screen loads. Oh well, thats just my views, good job on BoB alliance coming out on top once again in disadvantaged circumstances. Good Job All.
Teelmaster	Posted - 2004.09.30 16:42:00 - [138] Edited by: Teelmaster on 30/09/2004 16:44:24 Yeah, I listened in on teamspeak as well. Sounded alright. My personal views though, are that those kind of battles just really suck. Who dies tends to die is the unfortunate people that lag out/crash/lag some more instead of actual piloting skills. I tend to prefer the smaller skirmishes that are less dependent on who lags the most and more dependent on tacts/maneuvering. I also hate waiting 3 hours to gather the necessary people to counter 30+ bs blobs and get ganked before my screen loads. Oh well, thats just my views, good job on BoB alliance coming out on top once again in disadvantaged circumstances. Good Job All.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.09.30 17:15:00 - [139] Lag sucks. I'm with Teelmaster. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.09.30 17:15:00 - [140] Lag sucks. I'm with Teelmaster. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Dabone	Posted - 2004.09.30 17:29:00 - [141] Originally by: voodoo ? great fight its was pitifully laggy as all fleet battles are. The game is basiclly unplayable in this state for a fleet battle like that. I couldnt believe I hear players saying that was great fun, best fun Ive ever had, ect.. It is lag at its worst and simply unbelievable that I have to pay to play in that state. As far as fun it was far from it. I lived the whole battle just fine. The local chat and sportsmanship was the best Ive seen since I started playing eve. Great job on both sides, very professionally done by both sides. But come on if you think thats fun, Im afraid to say that you really will be bascilly having an orgasim in your pants if the LAG in this game is ever fixed. Im basiclly disgusted that CCP has allowed this type of game play to continued this far into the game. Shiva is coming out with more items, more code, I can only hope they improvements that CCP has stated about the lag in fleet battles is tremdously better. Props to all involved, but I say again If you think this was fun, once the lag in fleet battles is fixed, you'll be creaming in your jeans. God willing CCP will fix it, if not bah. gg LAG SUX **IT CCP!! I have to 100% agree. The potential for fleet combat in this game is vast, but somebody needs to get a collection going for CCP to get bigger servers. My understanding is that multiple systems are on each server, and that the servers are your standard windows crap. If I am not mistaken, most of the client/server interaction is done through stored procedures, so bigger servers with multiple CPUs should be used. And I don't buy it when CCP says "80% of the lag you experience is client side"... Bull**! The only love in prison is the kind cigarettes can buy.
Dabone	Posted - 2004.09.30 17:29:00 - [142] Originally by: voodoo ? great fight its was pitifully laggy as all fleet battles are. The game is basiclly unplayable in this state for a fleet battle like that. I couldnt believe I hear players saying that was great fun, best fun Ive ever had, ect.. It is lag at its worst and simply unbelievable that I have to pay to play in that state. As far as fun it was far from it. I lived the whole battle just fine. The local chat and sportsmanship was the best Ive seen since I started playing eve. Great job on both sides, very professionally done by both sides. But come on if you think thats fun, Im afraid to say that you really will be bascilly having an orgasim in your pants if the LAG in this game is ever fixed. Im basiclly disgusted that CCP has allowed this type of game play to continued this far into the game. Shiva is coming out with more items, more code, I can only hope they improvements that CCP has stated about the lag in fleet battles is tremdously better. Props to all involved, but I say again If you think this was fun, once the lag in fleet battles is fixed, you'll be creaming in your jeans. God willing CCP will fix it, if not bah. gg LAG SUX **IT CCP!! I have to 100% agree. The potential for fleet combat in this game is vast, but somebody needs to get a collection going for CCP to get bigger servers. My understanding is that multiple systems are on each server, and that the servers are your standard windows crap. If I am not mistaken, most of the client/server interaction is done through stored procedures, so bigger servers with multiple CPUs should be used. And I don't buy it when CCP says "80% of the lag you experience is client side"... Bull**! The only love in prison is the kind cigarettes can buy.
Gunstar Zero	Posted - 2004.09.30 17:50:00 - [143] Originally by: Joshua Calvert Lag sucks. I'm with Teelmaster. yup. Though I wonder, when the CCP chaps sat down and thought "how many battleships, drones and missiles all in one grid do we need to spec / design for" what number they came up with. Perhaps 16v16 was the design spec max? Moreover if eve happily supported 100v100 fleet battles before it started to get laggy - people would just try to squeeze more ships in - until folk complained that it was unforgivable that 200v200 wasnt playable. Just because it's possible to pile 10o+ ships into a system doesnt mean the system was designed with all of them fighting in mind.
Gunstar Zero	Posted - 2004.09.30 17:50:00 - [144] Originally by: Joshua Calvert Lag sucks. I'm with Teelmaster. yup. Though I wonder, when the CCP chaps sat down and thought "how many battleships, drones and missiles all in one grid do we need to spec / design for" what number they came up with. Perhaps 16v16 was the design spec max? Moreover if eve happily supported 100v100 fleet battles before it started to get laggy - people would just try to squeeze more ships in - until folk complained that it was unforgivable that 200v200 wasnt playable. Just because it's possible to pile 10o+ ships into a system doesnt mean the system was designed with all of them fighting in mind.
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.09.30 17:58:00 - [145] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Sassinak Originally by: Leafo FYI Just got FRAPS from the battle (I wasn't there). As soon as I get off work I will try and make a video of yesterdays fight. So that all of you bastards that were there can see how good you did and so that the rest of us can be even more jealous! //Leafo you should ask some of our guys for their fraps also, it would be a nice twist in a vid to add both perspectives =) and both viewpoints of the fighters I'll quite happily donate my Fraps footage to Leafo - I got about 1.5gb's worth just stick it in virtual dub first so he dont have to spend till xmas 2007 downloading it from you Sass Arcane Technologies
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.09.30 17:58:00 - [146] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Sassinak Originally by: Leafo FYI Just got FRAPS from the battle (I wasn't there). As soon as I get off work I will try and make a video of yesterdays fight. So that all of you bastards that were there can see how good you did and so that the rest of us can be even more jealous! //Leafo you should ask some of our guys for their fraps also, it would be a nice twist in a vid to add both perspectives =) and both viewpoints of the fighters I'll quite happily donate my Fraps footage to Leafo - I got about 1.5gb's worth just stick it in virtual dub first so he dont have to spend till xmas 2007 downloading it from you Sass Arcane Technologies
Reassor	Posted - 2004.09.30 18:32:00 - [147] Originally by: Gunstar Zero Originally by: Joshua Calvert Lag sucks. I'm with Teelmaster. yup. Though I wonder, when the CCP chaps sat down and thought "how many battleships, drones and missiles all in one grid do we need to spec / design for" what number they came up with. Perhaps 16v16 was the design spec max? Moreover if eve happily supported 100v100 fleet battles before it started to get laggy - people would just try to squeeze more ships in - until folk complained that it was unforgivable that 200v200 wasnt playable. Just because it's possible to pile 10o+ ships into a system doesnt mean the system was designed with all of them fighting in mind. well this war not started yesterday ;p so ccp should reinforce this region long time ago !!!
Reassor	Posted - 2004.09.30 18:32:00 - [148] Originally by: Gunstar Zero Originally by: Joshua Calvert Lag sucks. I'm with Teelmaster. yup. Though I wonder, when the CCP chaps sat down and thought "how many battleships, drones and missiles all in one grid do we need to spec / design for" what number they came up with. Perhaps 16v16 was the design spec max? Moreover if eve happily supported 100v100 fleet battles before it started to get laggy - people would just try to squeeze more ships in - until folk complained that it was unforgivable that 200v200 wasnt playable. Just because it's possible to pile 10o+ ships into a system doesnt mean the system was designed with all of them fighting in mind. well this war not started yesterday ;p so ccp should reinforce this region long time ago !!!
BobGhengisKhan	Posted - 2004.09.30 18:37:00 - [149] Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 30/09/2004 20:06:15 Dont get it really, the lag's improved so much lately, we've had up to 35 or so people on either side with no lag, last night was what, a little over 45 or so for each side at the gate? I don't understand why those extra 10 per side mean the difference between a fun time and a slide show
BobGhengisKhan	Posted - 2004.09.30 18:37:00 - [150] Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 30/09/2004 20:06:15 Dont get it really, the lag's improved so much lately, we've had up to 35 or so people on either side with no lag, last night was what, a little over 45 or so for each side at the gate? I don't understand why those extra 10 per side mean the difference between a fun time and a slide show

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