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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.10.01 08:30:00 -
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Well, I feel it was pretty much in the spirit of things actually. Anything goes after all and sacrificing a single racer to ensure other racers from that alliance do well . . . sacrifice and dedication is what made the Caldari State so powerful.
Besides, the race wasn't ruined, it still ran just the field was thinned and the weakest of the herd weeded out. *winks*
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.10.01 08:30:00 -
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Well, I feel it was pretty much in the spirit of things actually. Anything goes after all and sacrificing a single racer to ensure other racers from that alliance do well . . . sacrifice and dedication is what made the Caldari State so powerful.
Besides, the race wasn't ruined, it still ran just the field was thinned and the weakest of the herd weeded out. *winks*
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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shambley
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:23:00 -
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Now, I would consider the Curse alliance my enemy so please dont think I am biased in any way, hehehe
But the Caldari state's approach to this incident seems far more sinister than first appears The High handed statement handed down by the Caldari state seems to have darker motives under scrutiny. keeping pilots in order is the responsibilty of corperation they belong to, to expect a whole alliance to exersize control of each individual is ridiculous.There are caldari in all walks of life from terrorist to state hero to traitors yet they would not expect other races to hold the Caldari state responsible for each of it's citizens.. so why such a strong statement to the Curse alliance?
So many citizens of different backgrounds coming together for a common purpose will always lead to some individuals interpreting a different path to the whole(although thier common purpose seems bent on mayhem and piracy ;-)).
This seems less an act of retribution by the caldari state as a militant sword rattling exersize over a significant part of the universe .. what's behind this ? caldari state sending a warning shot over its easterly borders? ambitions to expand into curse space and bring it within the empire.
Surely one pilot could not cause such breakdown in relations unless the Caldari state sees this as an oppertunity for whatever dark purposes to destabilse the Curse region for its own motives. the fate of the curse alliance against such astrong enemy would seem surely doomed .. but then the question is raised. who next? can anyone feel safe if the Caldari state looks to expanding it's borders ??
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shambley
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:23:00 -
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Now, I would consider the Curse alliance my enemy so please dont think I am biased in any way, hehehe
But the Caldari state's approach to this incident seems far more sinister than first appears The High handed statement handed down by the Caldari state seems to have darker motives under scrutiny. keeping pilots in order is the responsibilty of corperation they belong to, to expect a whole alliance to exersize control of each individual is ridiculous.There are caldari in all walks of life from terrorist to state hero to traitors yet they would not expect other races to hold the Caldari state responsible for each of it's citizens.. so why such a strong statement to the Curse alliance?
So many citizens of different backgrounds coming together for a common purpose will always lead to some individuals interpreting a different path to the whole(although thier common purpose seems bent on mayhem and piracy ;-)).
This seems less an act of retribution by the caldari state as a militant sword rattling exersize over a significant part of the universe .. what's behind this ? caldari state sending a warning shot over its easterly borders? ambitions to expand into curse space and bring it within the empire.
Surely one pilot could not cause such breakdown in relations unless the Caldari state sees this as an oppertunity for whatever dark purposes to destabilse the Curse region for its own motives. the fate of the curse alliance against such astrong enemy would seem surely doomed .. but then the question is raised. who next? can anyone feel safe if the Caldari state looks to expanding it's borders ??
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Pelias
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Posted - 2004.10.01 10:14:00 -
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Lallante acted w/o CA High Command approval and knowledge, as you can read in the her statement. Therefore, no formal apology can be isued. Knowing how Curse Alliance works, I would rather expect war declaration than apologies.
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Pelias
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Posted - 2004.10.01 10:14:00 -
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Lallante acted w/o CA High Command approval and knowledge, as you can read in the her statement. Therefore, no formal apology can be isued. Knowing how Curse Alliance works, I would rather expect war declaration than apologies.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.10.01 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Pelias Lallante acted w/o CA High Command approval and knowledge, as you can read in the her statement. Therefore, no formal apology can be isued. Knowing how Curse Alliance works, I would rather expect war declaration than apologies.
Your correct there. Internal discussion is going on and i can confirm that this has been brought up by numourous people.
Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.10.01 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Pelias Lallante acted w/o CA High Command approval and knowledge, as you can read in the her statement. Therefore, no formal apology can be isued. Knowing how Curse Alliance works, I would rather expect war declaration than apologies.
Your correct there. Internal discussion is going on and i can confirm that this has been brought up by numourous people.
Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Razzil
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Posted - 2004.10.01 11:37:00 -
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Long live my Gallentean Sister Lallante!
Her sacrifice honours all freedom loving warriors who died for grand ambitions like Liberty, Equality and Fraternalism.
May her example inspire us till Eternity!
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Razzil
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Posted - 2004.10.01 11:37:00 -
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Long live my Gallentean Sister Lallante!
Her sacrifice honours all freedom loving warriors who died for grand ambitions like Liberty, Equality and Fraternalism.
May her example inspire us till Eternity!
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2004.10.01 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Pelias
Knowing how Curse Alliance works, I would rather expect war declaration than apologies.
Yeah. **** em, if they can't take a joke!
Severe
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2004.10.01 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Pelias
Knowing how Curse Alliance works, I would rather expect war declaration than apologies.
Yeah. **** em, if they can't take a joke!
Severe
And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land. |
Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.10.01 11:54:00 -
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We are past time to re-engage these capitalist pig dogs?
Too long have we suffered under their yoke of economic oppression, all in the name of corporation 'profits'!
Let Lallante's sacrifice be a guide, it is time for all alliances to unite and engage these heathens.
Death to the Caldari Dirty Sneaks!
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.10.01 11:54:00 -
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We are past time to re-engage these capitalist pig dogs?
Too long have we suffered under their yoke of economic oppression, all in the name of corporation 'profits'!
Let Lallante's sacrifice be a guide, it is time for all alliances to unite and engage these heathens.
Death to the Caldari Dirty Sneaks!
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.10.01 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Damo Pendragon We are past time to re-engage these capitalist pig dogs?
Too long have we suffered under their yoke of economic oppression, all in the name of corporation 'profits'!
Let Lallante's sacrifice be a guide, it is time for all alliances to unite and engage these heathens.
Death to the Caldari Dirty Sneaks!
Take a deep breathe Curse Brother Damo, there may be yet a politicaly sound way out of this, war will only be decided upon once our council convenes and decides in support of such action.
Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.10.01 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Damo Pendragon We are past time to re-engage these capitalist pig dogs?
Too long have we suffered under their yoke of economic oppression, all in the name of corporation 'profits'!
Let Lallante's sacrifice be a guide, it is time for all alliances to unite and engage these heathens.
Death to the Caldari Dirty Sneaks!
Take a deep breathe Curse Brother Damo, there may be yet a politicaly sound way out of this, war will only be decided upon once our council convenes and decides in support of such action.
Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.10.01 13:26:00 -
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Funny that you all say "1 bad corp member doesn't make the corp bad".
1 CFS alt member in Curse space, Curse declares war to CFS.
Hmmm... I say try to catch the ball! It's coming!
LOL!
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.10.01 13:26:00 -
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Funny that you all say "1 bad corp member doesn't make the corp bad".
1 CFS alt member in Curse space, Curse declares war to CFS.
Hmmm... I say try to catch the ball! It's coming!
LOL!
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Troublegum
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Posted - 2004.10.01 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Trooper B99
Thing is, those pilots should have had the smarts to keep their eyes open and move away when they saw that hulking great ship coming at them. I know in my race we had a Raven class battleship in the feild and we were all over 20 kilometres away from him, on the other side of a station. just in case.
If those racers didn't have their eyes open for people looking to thin the feild, be it with some intersting tactics prior to the race or even during the race, they simply didn't deserve to win.
*chuckles again*
I'm not saying it wasn't right, but it certainly was funny. And I have to say, I belive the better, more intelligent racers will be in my team flying for Wiyrikomi.
Lallante activated the smartbombs within moments of being warped to the start line/warping in to it. Luckily that was enough time for me to MWD away.
One thing, if this is a politcal statement, why was there 3 other CA pilots racing(and 1 won)?
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Troublegum
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Posted - 2004.10.01 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Trooper B99
Thing is, those pilots should have had the smarts to keep their eyes open and move away when they saw that hulking great ship coming at them. I know in my race we had a Raven class battleship in the feild and we were all over 20 kilometres away from him, on the other side of a station. just in case.
If those racers didn't have their eyes open for people looking to thin the feild, be it with some intersting tactics prior to the race or even during the race, they simply didn't deserve to win.
*chuckles again*
I'm not saying it wasn't right, but it certainly was funny. And I have to say, I belive the better, more intelligent racers will be in my team flying for Wiyrikomi.
Lallante activated the smartbombs within moments of being warped to the start line/warping in to it. Luckily that was enough time for me to MWD away.
One thing, if this is a politcal statement, why was there 3 other CA pilots racing(and 1 won)?
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:35:00 -
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Well lad, if you had enough time to get away, the others certainly did. I repeat, their own lookout, their own fault. They weren't fit to race for Wiyrikomi so, they were destroyed. Means Wiyrikomi has a bettr team at the end of the day, that's what I'm concerned about.
As for the other Curse racers, well, i'm certain they were racing for whatever reason. Money, fame, patriotism, someone telling em to, whim . . . . Lallante was their for her own reasons.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:35:00 -
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Well lad, if you had enough time to get away, the others certainly did. I repeat, their own lookout, their own fault. They weren't fit to race for Wiyrikomi so, they were destroyed. Means Wiyrikomi has a bettr team at the end of the day, that's what I'm concerned about.
As for the other Curse racers, well, i'm certain they were racing for whatever reason. Money, fame, patriotism, someone telling em to, whim . . . . Lallante was their for her own reasons.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Troublegum
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Posted - 2004.10.01 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Trooper B99 Well lad, if you had enough time to get away, the others certainly did. I repeat, their own lookout, their own fault. They weren't fit to race for Wiyrikomi so, they were destroyed. Means Wiyrikomi has a bettr team at the end of the day, that's what I'm concerned about.
Well lad, maybe if every racer had a full 360 field of view, had known at the exact time lallante was going to warp in, and wasnt in another screen or not paying attention, your point would be valid.
But as it is, it's just a pathetic placation.
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Troublegum
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Posted - 2004.10.01 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Trooper B99 Well lad, if you had enough time to get away, the others certainly did. I repeat, their own lookout, their own fault. They weren't fit to race for Wiyrikomi so, they were destroyed. Means Wiyrikomi has a bettr team at the end of the day, that's what I'm concerned about.
Well lad, maybe if every racer had a full 360 field of view, had known at the exact time lallante was going to warp in, and wasnt in another screen or not paying attention, your point would be valid.
But as it is, it's just a pathetic placation.
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Andrew Redburn
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Posted - 2004.10.01 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Andrew Redburn on 01/10/2004 15:55:48 If Caldari Navy should go to war with CA, can I apply for Caldari Navy? ;)
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Andrew Redburn
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Posted - 2004.10.01 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Andrew Redburn on 01/10/2004 15:55:48 If Caldari Navy should go to war with CA, can I apply for Caldari Navy? ;)
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Heliodor Mordureau
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Posted - 2004.10.01 16:01:00 -
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If the Curse Alliance and Caldari State go to war, my money is on the Caldari State... =)
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Look mate, if it's smack you want then I'll start sending Rohann into your Alliance chat everyday for a week.
-DB Preacher
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Heliodor Mordureau
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Posted - 2004.10.01 16:01:00 -
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If the Curse Alliance and Caldari State go to war, my money is on the Caldari State... =)
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Look mate, if it's smack you want then I'll start sending Rohann into your Alliance chat everyday for a week.
-DB Preacher
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.10.01 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: Arud on 01/10/2004 16:43:21 Whatever happens, make it happen within the storyline. That truly would be awsome if CA or Shinra would take some action against caldari state or caldari state took some action against ca or shinra.
And to CA I say, regardless if Lallante acted with the authority of the CA council she still reprisents her corp and her alliance wherever she goes.
(edt. forgot to finish my first paragraph)
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.10.01 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: Arud on 01/10/2004 16:43:21 Whatever happens, make it happen within the storyline. That truly would be awsome if CA or Shinra would take some action against caldari state or caldari state took some action against ca or shinra.
And to CA I say, regardless if Lallante acted with the authority of the CA council she still reprisents her corp and her alliance wherever she goes.
(edt. forgot to finish my first paragraph)
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