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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.07.31 12:35:00 -
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How many years and runs it will take to start gaining profit with 100 B ISK Hulk BPO?
Something like 9 years with 40 million profit on each?
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Hieronimus Rex
Minmatar Infinitus Sapientia
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Posted - 2009.07.31 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Mova B How many years and runs it will take to start gaining profit with 100 B ISK Hulk BPO?
Something like 9 years with 40 million profit on each?
or 1.5 days? Buy the BPO for 100bil, build and sell one hulk, sell the BPO. BAM 40mil profit....
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Saehta
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Novus Ordo Mundi
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Posted - 2009.07.31 14:56:00 -
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unless you were the only one dumb enough to pay 100b for it
chances are there is someone equal or dumber though
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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.07.31 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
Originally by: Mova B How many years and runs it will take to start gaining profit with 100 B ISK Hulk BPO?
Something like 9 years with 40 million profit on each?
or 1.5 days? Buy the BPO for 100bil, build and sell one hulk, sell the BPO. BAM 40mil profit....
Was it you?
Can anyone calculate how long it will take to gain profits with that BPO ME/PE details and those build costs and let's say that sell price is 95 M ISK.
Because I think that the buyer was eather idiot or just collector.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.07.31 21:13:00 -
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Lets go conserative on the numbers
25 mil profit per ship and 4 ships a week
thats 100 million a week
So 100 weeks or just shy of 2 years, which is what the return on a lot of T2 BPOs is.
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SeismicForce
Terra Incognita Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.07.31 22:27:00 -
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Your hulk from the bpo makes 40 mil profit. Assuming an invented hulk only makes 20 mil profit. You can build one ship at a time = 40 mil, I can build 10 ships at a time = 200 mil. Who wins?
Originally by: Allisie In a recent interview, a dev mentioned that ships and skills cause lag and will be removed in EVE 2.
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Valeria Crossroads
Caldari Terra Incognita Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.07.31 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: SeismicForce Your hulk from the bpo makes 40 mil profit. Assuming an invented hulk only makes 20 mil profit. You can build one ship at a time = 40 mil, I can build 10 ships at a time = 200 mil. Who wins?
That's flawed, cause if you own a bpo it does not exclude you doing invention too. So in your example a bpo owner doing invention can make 220 mil.
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SeismicForce
Terra Incognita Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.07.31 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Valeria Crossroads That's flawed, cause if you own a bpo it does not exclude you doing invention too. So in your example a bpo owner doing invention can make 220 mil.
Quiet boss, that wasn't the op's question
Even if you own a bpo, invention will always bring more profit as you can build more.
Originally by: Allisie In a recent interview, a dev mentioned that ships and skills cause lag and will be removed in EVE 2.
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.07.31 23:19:00 -
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All the BPO lets you do is build one ship cheaper and faster then one Invented BPC.
How a Hulk is worth 100b now is beyond me, in fact any BPO in which a run equals 1 unit is stupidly over priced now.
Ammo on the other hand... that's a different story, but we're talking the Hulk.
I guess you really need to work out, instead of spending 100b on the BPO, what if you spend 100b on invention materials for the Hulk..
At a 50% failure rate, you'd lose 50b. But you'd also have thousands of 5 run Hulk BPCs.
Now you can build at maximum speed above and beyond the BPO holder, hell a single Character can build 11 at a time. An entire account can build 33.
The only difference here is when do you want your ISK, sooner or later. Sooner, you do the invention, later, you buy the BPO. Because while you burned up 100B on invention you'd need to sell 5,000 Hulks (20mil profit each). At 33 a day you're recovery time is 152 days.
I don't know how much 100b will get you in invention material so it's hard to know how many 5run BPCs you'll get. If it's 1,000, then you break even, Any more then 1,000 and it's all profit.
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bow locks
UK Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.08.03 10:57:00 -
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You pay a huge premium for the honour of buying from Fart.
It is a premium worth paying.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.03 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
Originally by: Mova B How many years and runs it will take to start gaining profit with 100 B ISK Hulk BPO?
Something like 9 years with 40 million profit on each?
or 1.5 days? Buy the BPO for 100bil, build and sell one hulk, sell the BPO. BAM 40mil profit....
I doubt that would even cover the contract fees.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.03 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77 Lets go conserative on the numbers
25 mil profit per ship and 4 ships a week
thats 100 million a week
So 100 weeks or just shy of 2 years, which is what the return on a lot of T2 BPOs is.
100 weeks @ 100M/week is 10,000M = 10 billion.
Try 1000 weeks.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.08.03 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Breaker77 Lets go conserative on the numbers
25 mil profit per ship and 4 ships a week
thats 100 million a week
So 100 weeks or just shy of 2 years, which is what the return on a lot of T2 BPOs is.
100 weeks @ 100M/week is 10,000M = 10 billion.
Try 1000 weeks.
19 years?? --Vel
Experience is what you get right after you need it.
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Billia
Little Fuzzy Creatures of Mayhem and Destruction Emergence.
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Posted - 2009.08.03 21:28:00 -
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The main thing everyone is missing, is the fact that in a year you can resell the BPO for the same price you bought it from, So it isn't like ur using up the BPO, so technically ur making a profit from the moment u buy it.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.08.03 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis 100 weeks @ 100M/week is 10,000M = 10 billion.
Try 1000 weeks.
math failure... Thats why I stay away from T2 BPOs
Goes to show you if it sounds to good to be true it probably is
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Anaki Morosu
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Posted - 2009.08.04 02:01:00 -
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The long time-scale introduces great risk in the form of the rules of the game changing (new ships being introduced, for example) that further erode your margins and/or volume.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.08.04 03:41:00 -
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Payback calculation.
ME30 Hulk build cost = about 50M +/- 2M Sale = 90-100M Profit = 45M Build time = 1day 3.2 hrs Hulks built per year in station = 310
Profit per year = 310 x 45M Profit per year = 13.95B Payback time = 100B (cost of BPO) / 13.95 Payback = 7 years and 2 months
Not a good payback!!! well at least anymore!!
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