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Teraformer	Posted - 2009.07.26 11:20:00 - [1] if we take into a count that the pilgrim has minimal orbit and about 455 m/s while attacking BC or Cruiser, is one TD enough?. one med slot is free for more usefully things... or 2 TD is a must lets say in case there is two ships around or one TD is not effective enough vs the ship you are fighting?
Niclas Solo Amarr	Posted - 2009.07.26 13:52:00 - [2] What would be more usefull then a 2nd TD? a web? web is useless since frigs you will suck dry in seconds and your drones will eat up what is left, but a 2nd TD would protect you more from long range ammo.
Niclas Solo Amarr	Posted - 2009.07.26 14:14:00 - [3] i give you example even, lets say you find a nice harbinger in a belt with one TD his scorch will have 9,6+2km range too long range for your scram but with 2 TD his range is only 3,8+0,8km (+ a little for stacking penalty on the TD) but you can safely use your small neuts on him :)
Tjao Chuu Insanity Clause	Posted - 2009.07.26 16:16:00 - [4] Afterburner, Medium Capacitor Injector, Warp Scrambler, Tracking Disruptor, Multi spec ECM. Still my faforit MID use of the Pilgrim. That or 2x the ECM.
Teraformer	Posted - 2009.07.26 21:15:00 - [5] Edited by: Teraformer on 26/07/2009 21:22:31 is ecm on a pilgrim effective enough to fit over TD?
RuleoftheBone Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.07.26 23:25:00 - [6] Personally I use a web. Orbiting at 800m at ~420m/s with tracking speed disruption script takes care of BC's never mind BS's. And a lot of ships are still faster on AB than I am so would prefer to pin them until the neuts finish the job. Web is also handy for dealing with opposing drones if needed. YMMV.
Tjao Chuu Insanity Clause	Posted - 2009.07.27 00:06:00 - [7] Originally by: Teraformer Edited by: Teraformer on 26/07/2009 21:22:31 is ecm on a pilgrim effective enough to fit over TD? I have noticed that if i orbit at 500m and use the afterburner I hardly get hit by most things any way. The ECM gives me a means to escape incase back up arives or brake a jamming to get closer to activate my own weapons. If you use one its a bit of a gamble. Sometimes you get lucky at first cycle other times it takes seven. Its why I prefer 2.
shoenvar	Posted - 2009.07.27 08:34:00 - [8] I had the same doubt, 2TD or 1 TD + WEB. Finally it depends, some times use 2 TD and some 1TD +WEB. Generally i use 1TD and 1 WEb, you will orbiting very close to that target, using a TD (trscking script) if you apply the web, you even augment the transversal, at least in BC and some Cruisers. BS no problem with one.
Durzel The Xenodus Initiative.	Posted - 2009.07.27 10:35:00 - [9] Originally by: Tjao Chuu Originally by: Teraformer Edited by: Teraformer on 26/07/2009 21:22:31 is ecm on a pilgrim effective enough to fit over TD? I have noticed that if i orbit at 500m and use the afterburner I hardly get hit by most things any way. The ECM gives me a means to escape incase back up arives or brake a jamming to get closer to activate my own weapons. If you use one its a bit of a gamble. Sometimes you get lucky at first cycle other times it takes seven. Its why I prefer 2. Isn't that what ECM drones are for? Pilgrim has a big drone bay and plenty of room for at least 5 small/med ECM drones. Using up two med slots for ECM modules and thus neglecting its actual bonused EWAR (i.e. TD) seems a bit strange to me.
Madla Mafia	Posted - 2009.07.27 15:54:00 - [10] Originally by: Durzel Isn't that what ECM drones are for? Pilgrim has a big drone bay and plenty of room for at least 5 small/med ECM drones. Using up two med slots for ECM modules and thus neglecting its actual bonused EWAR (i.e. TD) seems a bit strange to me. And how are you going to do any worthwhile dps when drones is pretty much* all it's got. * - excluding a few little lasers.
Myra2007 Shafrak Industries	Posted - 2009.07.27 16:02:00 - [11] I prefer web + td but i guess its a matter of taste. I can see situations where web+td>2xtd and vice versa and hell if you know whats coming even racial ecm may be an option.
jhon whang	Posted - 2009.07.27 16:22:00 - [12] Originally by: Madla Mafia Originally by: Durzel Isn't that what ECM drones are for? Pilgrim has a big drone bay and plenty of room for at least 5 small/med ECM drones. Using up two med slots for ECM modules and thus neglecting its actual bonused EWAR (i.e. TD) seems a bit strange to me. And how are you going to do any worthwhile dps when drones is pretty much* all it's got. * - excluding a few little lasers. If you're using them as an escape plan then the ecm drones are to break lock and warp. Abandoning a few drones is a little cheaper than losing recon, I hear. Ppl put lasers on Pilgrims?
Tjao Chuu Insanity Clause	Posted - 2009.07.27 16:35:00 - [13] Edited by: Tjao Chuu on 27/07/2009 16:38:04 Originally by: Durzel Isn't that what ECM drones are for? Pilgrim has a big drone bay and plenty of room for at least 5 small/med ECM drones. Using up two med slots for ECM modules and thus neglecting its actual bonused EWAR (i.e. TD) seems a bit strange to me. I use ecm drones also, but it takes time for them to reach said target and they can be taking out quite easely. You can use TD if you want I know most people do but I'll always be using ECM untill they nerf it even more becous its still the most powerfull ewar module out there. Its just a preference. Originally by: jhon whang Abandoning a few drones is a little cheaper than losing a recon, I hear. This is true.
Madla Mafia	Posted - 2009.08.07 19:36:00 - [14] Originally by: jhon whang If you're using them as an escape plan then the ecm drones are to break lock and warp. Abandoning a few drones is a little cheaper than losing recon, I hear. Fair enough, I do the same. Originally by: jhon whang Ppl put lasers on Pilgrims? Some do, in which case they turn it into a buffer-shield tanking laser pilgrim. (I'm not a big fan it that route though.)
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2009.08.07 19:44:00 - [15] Unbonused ECM should be pretty effective against Marauders with their very low sensor strength. Originally by: Sera Ryskin And I have no idea what this bull**** about gang or solo is about.

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