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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.27 06:12:00 -
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We have all heard that Duty. have had a failcascade and are 'restarting' their corp (ie, they are basically disbanding) but now new rumors have come to life that Noir will be joining them shortly!
I am shocked that the 2 top Merc corps of our time are throwing in the towel.. Is there no work left in new eden for these fine gentlemen?
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Mickey Simon
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.07.27 06:39:00 -
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Lana, as much as I love you.
Don't be f-ing spastic.
<3 Mickey.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.27 06:45:00 -
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Edited by: Lana Torrin on 27/07/2009 06:51:45
 Originally by: Mickey Simon
Lana, as much as I love you.
Don't be f-ing spastic.
<3 Mickey.
So are you saying it isn't true or are you trying to throw us off the scent until the Noir leadership can address the issue themselves?
What will happen to all of the people that have upcoming contracts with you guys and have paid a deposit? I hope they will be getting their deposit back.
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.27 07:20:00 -
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Lana, ♥ you, but not cool trying to negatively impact the business of one of the more well respected corps out there.
Originally by: RedSplat
The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.27 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Lana, ♥ you, but not cool trying to negatively impact the business of one of the more well respected corps out there.
I'm not trying to hurt Noir Lexa, im just trying to get to the bottom of the rumors and find out what will become of Noir's loyal customers after this unfortunate outcome is dealt with. I would hope with Noir's reputation they would provide full refunds in the case of their impending collapse.
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.27 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Lana, ♥ you, but not cool trying to negatively impact the business of one of the more well respected corps out there.
I'm not trying to hurt Noir Lexa, im just trying to get to the bottom of the rumors and find out what will become of Noir's loyal customers after this unfortunate outcome is dealt with. I would hope with Noir's reputation they would provide full refunds in the case of their impending collapse.
Please cite your sources as well as provide references and a link to your previous spy work.
Originally by: RedSplat
The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.27 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Lana, ♥ you, but not cool trying to negatively impact the business of one of the more well respected corps out there.
I'm not trying to hurt Noir Lexa, im just trying to get to the bottom of the rumors and find out what will become of Noir's loyal customers after this unfortunate outcome is dealt with. I would hope with Noir's reputation they would provide full refunds in the case of their impending collapse.
Please cite your sources as well as provide references and a link to your previous spy work.
I cant find the log from the first person that told me, but this is from the C&P channel earlier..
[06:47:19] Jared D'Uroth > whats happening with Noir,
[06:47:29] Mickey Simon > we're disbanding.
[06:47:31] Mickey Simon > You didn't know?
[06:47:38] Mickey Simon > Read the thread man, ****.
[06:47:40] Jared D'Uroth > i saw it on C&P
[06:47:54] Jared D'Uroth > I figured it must be true
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.27 07:31:00 -
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Oh.
c u on teh battelfield.
Originally by: RedSplat
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Mickey Simon
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.07.27 07:58:00 -
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No, Noir. is not disbanding.
Yes, we're still taking contracts.
Yes, we'll still honour them the same way as we always have.
Alekseyev is the only person who will make official statements about Noir. as everyone knows he's the CEO. So for any potential employers, current, or past employers reading this, please take everything in this thread with a grain of salt.
f you guys. I'm still waking up lol :(
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Misanth
Reaper Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.27 08:13:00 -
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I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Junqtion
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Posted - 2009.07.27 08:17:00 -
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i hope not, i was hoping to hire them one day, would be a milestone for me :P
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MrChook
THE FINAL STAND
The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2009.07.27 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mickey Simon
No, Noir. is not disbanding.
Yes, we're still taking contracts.
Yes, we'll still honour them the same way as we always have.
Alekseyev is the only person who will make official statements about Noir. as everyone knows he's the CEO. So for any potential employers, current, or past employers reading this, please take everything in this thread with a grain of salt.
f you guys. I'm still waking up lol :(
So, you can't officially deny that Noir. is disbanding? THE PLOT THICKENS
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Tiamat Key
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Posted - 2009.07.27 08:24:00 -
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Lana is dumb. Non-shocker. :\
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Kan3r Blaze
Minmatar
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.07.27 08:38:00 -
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Mickey's got this well in hand, but as an officer of Noir. I can confirm that we have absolutely no intention of either closing down or beginning to not honour contracts in any way, shape or form.
Noir.
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.07.27 08:44:00 -
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Aleksey is more than welcome to return to The Final Stand where he learned all he needed to know for the Merc career he chose afterwards.
We have no problems with taking old members back that show a bit of gumption.
As for Noir and Duty being the very best Merc corp/alliances out there...
Well....
Really?
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Kan3r Blaze
Minmatar
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.07.27 08:53:00 -
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Now now....let's not turn a rumour stomping thread into a smack one.
Or reputation speaks for itself. If you don't agree with it, then that's your opinion.
Oh, and Aleks speaks fondly of his time in Final Stand, but methinks he'll be staying here for a while :)
Noir.
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.07.27 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kan3r Blaze
Now now....let's not turn a rumour stomping thread into a smack one.
Or reputation speaks for itself. If you don't agree with it, then that's your opinion.
Oh, and Aleks speaks fondly of his time in Final Stand, but methinks he'll be staying here for a while :)
Hes a good pilot and we are a good corp, so ofcourse he would.
Respect where its due :)
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.07.27 09:12:00 -
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This just in,
People who won't play eve unless you pay them to might not play eve even if you pay them to, or might just go back to playing eve for free but with different people this time.
Here's Susie with the weather....
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Kan3r Blaze
Minmatar
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.07.27 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
Hes a good pilot and we are a good corp, so ofcourse he would.
Respect where its due :)
I believe I misinterpreted my esteemed colleagues original post.
Apologies for thinking you were trying to belittle Noir.'s name and thanks for the chat 
Noir.
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.07.27 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kan3r Blaze
Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
Hes a good pilot and we are a good corp, so ofcourse he would.
Respect where its due :)
I believe I misinterpreted my esteemed colleagues original post.
Apologies for thinking you were trying to belittle Noir.'s name and thanks for the chat
No problem love :)
_-.~Nemo Me Impune Lacessit~.-_ |
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.27 13:17:00 -
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Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde on 27/07/2009 13:20:31
Confirming Noir.'s corp wallet is not yet fat enough for me to steal it and disband the corp.
EDIT:
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.27 13:30:00 -
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OH NO!! YOU FOUND MY PIC!!
I mean... yay! Boxxy!
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Tammin Sol
Out For Blood
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Posted - 2009.07.27 13:32:00 -
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Edited by: Tammin Sol on 27/07/2009 13:32:28
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde on 27/07/2009 13:20:31
Confirming Noir.'s corp wallet is not yet fat enough for me to steal it and disband the corp.
NEWS JUST IN! Alekseyev Karrde is looking to rob his corp and go piwate!
amidoingitrite?
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Shigsy
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.27 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
Aleksey is more than welcome to return to The Final Stand where he learned all he needed to know for the Merc career he chose afterwards.
We have no problems with taking old members back that show a bit of gumption.
As for Noir and Duty being the very best Merc corp/alliances out there...
Well....
Really?
THE FINAL STAND - BEST MERC CORP IN EVE
wait, who?
Join "C&P" ingame! |
BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.07.27 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: BloodSoaked Goddess on 27/07/2009 14:04:50
Originally by: Shigsy
THE FINAL STAND - BEST MERC CORP IN EVE
wait, who?
Jealousy wont get you a cookie fatty :)
Edit: PS The Final Stand will offer you 10isk for your tourny slot, atleast we will know how to use it <3
_-.~Nemo Me Impune Lacessit~.-_ |
Shigsy
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.27 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
Edited by: BloodSoaked Goddess on 27/07/2009 14:04:50
Originally by: Shigsy
THE FINAL STAND - BEST MERC CORP IN EVE
wait, who?
Jealousy wont get you a cookie fatty :)
Edit: PS The Final Stand will offer you 10isk for your tourny slot, atleast we will know how to use it <3
Pot, meet kettle
Join "C&P" ingame! |
Larkonis Trassler
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Posted - 2009.07.27 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
Edited by: BloodSoaked Goddess on 27/07/2009 14:04:50
Originally by: Shigsy
THE FINAL STAND - BEST MERC CORP IN EVE
wait, who?
Jealousy wont get you a cookie fatty :)
Edit: PS The Final Stand will offer you 10isk for your tourny slot, atleast we will know how to use it <3
Sorry, I don't think you read the rules... No Pirate Implant sets allowed.
FOR SALE: ALLIANCE TOURNAMENT 7 SLOT |
Shigsy
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.27 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Larkonis Trassler
Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
Edited by: BloodSoaked Goddess on 27/07/2009 14:04:50
Originally by: Shigsy
THE FINAL STAND - BEST MERC CORP IN EVE
wait, who?
Jealousy wont get you a cookie fatty :)
Edit: PS The Final Stand will offer you 10isk for your tourny slot, atleast we will know how to use it <3
Sorry, I don't think you read the rules... No Pirate Implant sets allowed.
Only 2 of the same ship allowed aswell 
Join "C&P" ingame! |
RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.27 15:54:00 -
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C+P.
Perpetual perma-crap.
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FU22
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.07.27 16:40:00 -
[30]
confirming alek has a boxxy fetish
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Brea Tharen
Minmatar
Red Hand Squadron
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Posted - 2009.07.27 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: Brea Tharen on 27/07/2009 20:16:10
So lets see.
Noir, who has posted in multiple threads as being the best and most prolific mercenary corp, is having problems.
While I don't have the same insider information that Lana has, I do have as much or more knowledge of internal corp/alliance workings as anyone else here, and we all know that when problems like this start, they usually end up death spiraling even while the main party is protesting their continued stability.
I would be concerned as a customer about putting forth any significant contracts to Noir at the moment, as it sounds likely they will simply absorb or be absorbed by another alliance and just become yet another random lowsec pvp/pirate alliance, or a smaller and less effective version of privateers.
As a side note, I don't think you can really label yourself as the best, I think that kind of thing has to be done by other people. Labeling yourself as "the most prolific" or one of the top 2 merc corps ever is an incredible level of arrogance. The only thing you do better than the other merc groups that are significantly older and more experienced than you, is have a spiffy website and post a lot on the forums about yourself.
I'm personally enjoying what sounds like the initial death throes of an over rated and under skilled group of wanna be mercs. I've seen better, we all have, it's just that the ones that know NOIR isn't anything special don't bother posting on the forums.
*edit* I have been reviewing their killboards as well, and honestly? I mean I didn't give you guys much credit to begin with, but I didn't care enough to check on your kills to see just how bad you guys are. If that killboard is a representation of "the best mercenary group" then the entire profession of mercs may as well pack it in. That's terrible. It looks as if you guys are lucky to get one or two decent kills a day. Something tells me you aren't breaking many corps by killing their kestrels and punishers.
It also looks like, for a group that is a mercenary group, that you have a significant amount of kills in the standard low sec pirate hangouts. Are you certain your clients are getting their isk worth out of your pilots, or are you guys just taking the easy path and camping gates intead of hunting your contracts.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.27 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tammin Sol
NEWS JUST IN! Alekseyev Karrde is looking to rob his corp and go piwate!
Plan from day one, straight up.
By the way everyone, Brea Tharen is the expert at internal corp and alliance workings. Lana, you could learn something from his keen insight, unbiased perspective, thorough understanding of the mercenary industry, and unmatched ability to read corp info and killboards.
Why simply by reading the half of the origional post left for posterity he has correctly deduced that Lana obtained insider information about our imminent collapse and fail cascade. Not only that, but his analysis correctly identified the reason being our epic fail at only killing two ships a day and that the result will be our inevitable absorbtion by a larger more successful mercenary alliance.
As soon as I find one. 
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Brea Tharen
Minmatar
Red Hand Squadron
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Posted - 2009.07.27 20:30:00 -
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So does that amusing deflection from my comment mean you really don't have any way to address the fact that you guys kill what appears to be an average of 3-4 ships a day?
That seems to be a small number for a self professed prolific merc corp.
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Brea Tharen
Minmatar
Red Hand Squadron
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Posted - 2009.07.27 20:49:00 -
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So. A response within minutes that doesnt address anything I said, and no response after I make a direct comment that can't be replied to without having to refute a fact.
This is the kind of thing that indicates a death spiral of YASMC. (Yet Another Standard Merc Corp)
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.27 21:22:00 -
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Thread delivers.
Killboard - Declarations of War Podcast |
Kan3r Blaze
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.27 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Brea Tharen
Edited by: Brea Tharen on 27/07/2009 20:16:10
As a side note, I don't think you can really label yourself as the best, I think that kind of thing has to be done by other people. Labeling yourself as "the most prolific" or one of the top 2 merc corps ever is an incredible level of arrogance.
I like this guy, can we keep him?
Could you please show me a post where a Noir. member has said that we are the best?
Noir.
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Roastedpot
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.27 23:19:00 -
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<3 another noir. thread 
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.27 23:20:00 -
[38]
Noir just doubled my isk I would trust these guys.
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Kan3r Blaze
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.27 23:29:00 -
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Oooo...I have egg on my face now...
Just found a thread where one of our members does actually say we're the best:
Thread
Apologies for that, I wasn't expecting chest beating from our own ranks. Will have a talk to Jimer when I next see him.
My point was that it's not (99% of the time) us that go on about how good we are.
Noir.
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Tammin Sol
Out For Blood
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Posted - 2009.07.27 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
Why simply by reading the half of the origional post left for posterity he has correctly deduced that Lana obtained insider information about our imminent collapse and fail cascade. Not only that, but his analysis correctly identified the reason being our epic fail at only killing two ships a day and that the result will be our inevitable absorbtion by a larger more successful mercenary alliance.
As soon as I find one.
NEWS JUST IN! Alekseyev Karrde admits he wants to join REPO!
I just can't stop, can I... 
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.28 02:17:00 -
[41]
Is Brea trolling my troll thread?!
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Mickey Simon
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.07.28 02:30:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Lana Torrin
Is Brea trolling my troll thread?!
Yes, and it's brightened my day
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.28 02:32:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Mickey Simon
Originally by: Lana Torrin
Is Brea trolling my troll thread?!
Yes, and it's brightened my day
I'm SHOCKED! Shocked and appalled... Well, ok, not that shocked.
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Taram Caldar
GK inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.28 02:50:00 -
[44]
LOL @ yet another Noir. thread. TBH they are "One of the best" no matter how you want to spin it.
<3 Noir. Keep up the good work lads!
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Vars Shaylo
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.07.28 04:03:00 -
[45]
If I was Noir. I would war-dec the Skool for this...
_________________
Okay, I'm an alt. |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.28 04:04:00 -
[46]
I <3 free press
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.28 04:23:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Vars Shaylo
If I was Noir. I would war-dec the Skool for this...
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.28 04:59:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Tammin Sol
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
Why simply by reading the half of the origional post left for posterity he has correctly deduced that Lana obtained insider information about our imminent collapse and fail cascade. Not only that, but his analysis correctly identified the reason being our epic fail at only killing two ships a day and that the result will be our inevitable absorbtion by a larger more successful mercenary alliance.
As soon as I find one.
NEWS JUST IN! Alekseyev Karrde admits he wants to join REPO!
I just can't stop, can I...
Congratulations, you have discovered our ultra-seekrit plan. Whatever shall we do now?
Please resize your sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal |
Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.28 05:49:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Miyamoto Isoruku
Originally by: Tammin Sol
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
Why simply by reading the half of the origional post left for posterity he has correctly deduced that Lana obtained insider information about our imminent collapse and fail cascade. Not only that, but his analysis correctly identified the reason being our epic fail at only killing two ships a day and that the result will be our inevitable absorbtion by a larger more successful mercenary alliance.
As soon as I find one.
NEWS JUST IN! Alekseyev Karrde admits he wants to join REPO!
I just can't stop, can I...
Congratulations, you have discovered our ultra-seekrit plan. Whatever shall we do now?
While were on the subject of ultra-seekrit plans.. Why is Noir in an alliance? Doesnt that wardecs more expensive?
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.28 06:29:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Brea Tharen
So. A response within minutes that doesnt address anything I said, and no response after I make a direct comment that can't be replied to without having to refute a fact.
I don't think you're relevant enough to warrant a response.
Originally by: RedSplat
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Auracon
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.07.28 07:46:00 -
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Noir. 's problem... theyz r doing it wrong, mmk. Aleks needs to learn how to smack... mmk, and harvest tears from carebears, and put a certain ethnic minority in ovens, so they die in a fire (in game). Also Noir. needs new life jackets c/d?
Jokes aside, Eve will be a worse place if Noir. disbands; and I highly doubt it will ever happen. They are the MOST PROFESSIONAL merc. corp out there. Their killboards are not littered with random low/0.0 kills since they stay focused on their contracts. They do their job and take it seriously, even if that means station camping targets to afraid to come out for hours.
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Why is Noir in an alliance? Doesnt that wardecs more expensive?
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.28 08:01:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Auracon
Quote:
Why is Noir in an alliance? Doesnt that wardecs more expensive?
Ever heard of an alliance tournament? Maybe they wanted to apply and still haven't disbanded the alliance (just a supposition).
It eliminates the 24 hour voting period from wardecs IIRC. That's the same reason ABP had an alliance.
Originally by: RedSplat
The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.28 08:03:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Originally by: Auracon
Quote:
Why is Noir in an alliance? Doesnt that wardecs more expensive?
Ever heard of an alliance tournament? Maybe they wanted to apply and still haven't disbanded the alliance (just a supposition).
It eliminates the 24 hour voting period from wardecs IIRC. That's the same reason ABP had an alliance.
Oh really?! And there I was waiting the 24h like a nub...
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Kan3r Blaze
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.28 08:05:00 -
[54]
Originally by: "Evelopedia"
A corporation can only have a maximum of 3 wars, an Alliance has no such limit.
There have been a couple of times where we've been restricted in contracts due to the 3 war limit.
Noir.
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.07.28 08:54:00 -
[55]
Its the same reason we have our own alliance.
No voting period. Insta dec.
24hrs later dec is active. Go Go Dec button on however many is needed.
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Faekurias
Raptus Regalitor
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Posted - 2009.07.28 11:10:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Misanth
c
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IAmTheDanceCommander
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Posted - 2009.07.28 11:53:00 -
[57]
I smell Matrix Skye all over Brea.
Then again i would, he is the bizzaro Obama Joker spawn to my American Corporate Batman.
1 isking this thread.
-------- is out of office for the next 5 days, but he asked me to tell you all that OP is a bad girl with a bad OP.
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Tobarg Shh
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.28 12:02:00 -
[58]
I have 17 mil, can i help?
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.28 14:15:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Tobarg Shh
I have 17 mil, can i help?
I have a few projects you can sink that 17M in to..
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Brea Tharen
Minmatar
Red Hand Squadron
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Posted - 2009.07.28 17:57:00 -
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Clearing the air for the last time.
1: We've established that NOIR does a lot of self chest beating.
2: Regardless of their excuses, we've established that they get a very small amount of kills. IMHO that would contradict their effectiveness.
And some new comments
3: There are a significant number of people who claim that NOIR is simply fantastic, yet the guy who runs the website/blog quit, as well as FU22 and Taram, so whats that all about. I know I probably wouldn't quit a fantastic, prolific, impressively significant mercenary corp.
4: They made the alliance not only for the 24 hour dec, but to try to get into the alliance tournament, which they are lucky not to have gotten into.
So what of it lads? Why quit such a fantastic alliance. Why are your leadership leaving like rats off a sinking ship?
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.28 18:04:00 -
[61]
Ender decided he wanted to move on to other things. It happens, the blog is going to remain because it was a great thing he started, the podcast too. He never ran the Noir. website, though- so you're wrong there.
Taram left under very positive circumstances and for no other reason than he'd been doing this for a long time and wanted to do something different. I'm sure he'll chime in, as he can speak for himself.
As one of those closest to what you could call the "leadership" of Noir. other than Alek, we're doing just fine, having fun and playing our role in the EVE universe.
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Brea Tharen
Minmatar
Red Hand Squadron
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Posted - 2009.07.28 18:08:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Brea Tharen on 28/07/2009 18:09:05
Originally by: Auracon
Noir. 's problem... theyz r doing it wrong, mmk. Aleks needs to learn how to smack... mmk, and harvest tears from carebears, and put a certain ethnic minority in ovens, so they die in a fire (in game). Also Noir. needs new life jackets c/d?
Jokes aside, Eve will be a worse place if Noir. disbands; and I highly doubt it will ever happen. They are the MOST PROFESSIONAL merc. corp out there. Their killboards are not littered with random low/0.0 kills since they stay focused on their contracts. They do their job and take it seriously, even if that means station camping targets to afraid to come out for hours.
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Seriously? Their killboard isn't littered with 0.0 and low sec random kills? Seriously?
You might want to recheck that.
Also... Eve will be affected if they disbanded? Unlikely. They simply aren't that big of a deal.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.28 19:55:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Brea Tharen
1: We've established that NOIR does a lot of self chest beating.
"we" did?
where's this "we"?
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Brea Tharen
Minmatar
Red Hand Squadron
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:29:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Kan3r Blaze
Oooo...I have egg on my face now...
Just found a thread where one of our members does actually say we're the best:
Thread
Apologies for that, I wasn't expecting chest beating from our own ranks. Will have a talk to Jimer when I next see him.
My point was that it's not (99% of the time) us that go on about how good we are.
Right there, is where "we" established that. In fact I don't use the phrase "chest beating", i took it right from your mates post.
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Brea Tharen
Minmatar
Red Hand Squadron
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:32:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Brea Tharen on 28/07/2009 20:34:21
Now that I've established that, anyone care to laugh at the fanboi who called them professional for not going into low sec and 0.0 to get random kills, but instead focus totally on contracts?
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=alliance&name=Noir.+Mercenary+Group
the proof is right there.
Look, I'm not saying they aren't nice guys. Maybe they are, I don't care. I just speak as an experienced client of mercs, and these guys are not what their sock puppet alts, their ex members turned fanbois say, "One of the most prolific, professional, high quality merc groups ever."
It's simply not accurate. They have low member numbers. They have low kill numbers. They ahve inflated prices, poor tactics, and an overly active forum warrior section.
Quite simply they are pirates that occasionally take contracts, and appear to hunt the people you PAY them to hunt when they see fit.
It's quite obvious from that killboard that they go off the reservation at will.
In fact, a statistical analysis might reveal that less than 50 percent of their kills are actually war targets. I'll have to check into this after I get back from RL.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:41:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Brea Tharen
Originally by: Kan3r Blaze
Oooo...I have egg on my face now...
Just found a thread where one of our members does actually say we're the best:
Thread
Apologies for that, I wasn't expecting chest beating from our own ranks. Will have a talk to Jimer when I next see him.
My point was that it's not (99% of the time) us that go on about how good we are.
Right there, is where "we" established that. In fact I don't use the phrase "chest beating", i took it right from your mates post.
ah so 1 member chestbeating once on a thread nearly 3 months old, automatically means that the entire alliance is chestbeating whenever possible.
gotta love generalizations.
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:45:00 -
[67]
Brea is a Giant Squid Corp alt.
Why they are doing this i have no clue
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Grimpak
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:47:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Grimpak on 28/07/2009 20:48:13
Originally by: Brea Tharen
Edited by: Brea Tharen on 28/07/2009 20:34:21
Now that I've established that, anyone care to laugh at the fanboi who called them professional for not going into low sec and 0.0 to get random kills, but instead focus totally on contracts?
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=alliance&name=Noir.+Mercenary+Group
the proof is right there.
Look, I'm not saying they aren't nice guys. Maybe they are, I don't care. I just speak as an experienced client of mercs, and these guys are not what their sock puppet alts, their ex members turned fanbois say, "One of the most prolific, professional, high quality merc groups ever."
It's simply not accurate. They have low member numbers. They have low kill numbers. They ahve inflated prices, poor tactics, and an overly active forum warrior section.
Quite simply they are pirates that occasionally take contracts, and appear to hunt the people you PAY them to hunt when they see fit.
It's quite obvious from that killboard that they go off the reservation at will.
In fact, a statistical analysis might reveal that less than 50 percent of their kills are actually war targets. I'll have to check into this after I get back from RL.
indeed, let me show you the Kboard of an old merc corp, wich was considered "tight" by many and so on:
http://tnt.griefwatch.net/
edit: doesn't seem to be working
also, you're talking about the client's perspective. try to run a merc business model in today's EVE, with hotdroppings, clonejumping, rampart piracy, and docking games and try to maintain high K:D ratios.
this isn't 0-****in-0, it's empire, where everyone and their mother has access to location agents (works both ways btw), alts spread out thru 5 jumps of a system and remote repping neutral alts.
also, you're forgetting that kills isn't just what counts. keeping the marks docked up doing squat xcept station spinning and local watching also counts.
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Crotch Goblin
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Posted - 2009.07.28 21:12:00 -
[69]
Sorry but you can't call anyone that mainly pvp's in high sec good. Even most pirates aren't any good. There's very few outfits in eve that have it together well enough to be considered really good pvpers. It's the small corps that roam in small gangs that you will find kick your teeth in. Everyone else in these larger corps and alliances are just pixels that appear on killboards.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.28 21:34:00 -
[70]
Saying "I think we're one of the best" in response to someone referring to us as "wannabe merc-lice" in a thread where the OP failed to understand how hiring mercs actually worked is chest-beating?
Stretch the truth much?
Some perspective would be good- but I don't expect any. In the end, despite YOUR chest-beating, you are still making unsubstantiated claims which are obviously driven not from any desire for objectivity but because you don't like Noir.; your exaggerations, unsubstantiated and inflated accusations, coupled with your strident hyperbole, all serve to cast into sharp relief the fact that you are only here to grind axes.
We get it- you don't like us. :) Your continued shrill dribbling is really not convincing anyone of your POV, though.
To everyone else: We've never claimed to be perfect, nor have we claimed to be the best. However, Noir. is professional, dedicated and one of the best merc groups you'll find in the universe of EVE. This is simply a fact- I despise false humility as much as I dislike arrogance. We are good and constantly strive to be better. The day we believe we're the best is the day someone comes along and knocks us down a peg.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.28 22:23:00 -
[71]
Taram totally left because we suck, and he certainly didnt give you the verbal ***** slap of a life time in our defense here.
We totally dont get most of our business these days from repeat customers, word of mouth, and former targets. In fact, i will make the shocking revelation that I've hired Brea to troll our threads as advertising because we dont have enough work to refer to the newer and smaller merc corps so they can get some business.
We're terrible people, and terrible PVPers. Our killboards show we dont do a lot of damage to our targets and we have a horrible k:d and efficiency. We have never killed an entire alliance or corporation. Our contract targets do not take us seriously, they undock all the time without carrier over watch and warp to gates we are sitting over 150km off of because we can only kill targets when they enter local.
Comes down to this: If you know what a troll is, have a laugh at this one's heroically pathetic efforts and go about your buisness. If you think Brea is both serious and correct, contact Jonny 101 to take care of all your merc needs.
As an aside, i dunno about squids but i wonder if the same lack of focus and overabundance of trying too hard is what is causing such angst in his main corp.
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Brea Tharen
Minmatar
Red Hand Squadron
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Posted - 2009.07.29 00:43:00 -
[72]
Nobody gave me a verbal beatdown, and as far as shrill, I'm not the one screaming to try to distract from one undeniable fact.
A significant majority of ALL of Noirs kills are 0.0 and low sec kills on non war targets.
So where is the truth to the claim that they are professional mercs who stay on contract?
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.29 00:54:00 -
[73]
I didnt think it was even possible to derail a troll post, but there ya go.. *Grabs the popcorn off whoever has fallen asleep*
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Roastedpot
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.29 04:43:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Brea Tharen
A significant majority of ALL of Noirs kills are 0.0 and low sec kills on non war targets.
So where is the truth to the claim that they are professional mercs who stay on contract?
well Brea, i got bored and since we don't stay on contract anyways did a lil number crunchin, started by hand, then i realized i have a computer :)..
Noir. has:
1715 kills (61.27B damage done) to 359 losses (12.97 damage recieved) ON CONTRACT
1682 kills (72.98B damage done (blame aleks killin carriers with invicta  )) to 695 losses (28.68B damage recieved) OFF CONTRACT
so that is 50.49% of our kills (45.64% damage done) to 34.06% of losses (31.14% damage recieved) ON CONTRACT which if you look carefully means we really dont give a crap about off contract stuffs but once a contract starts up, or when it isnt some lame dockupski contract, we are at the top of our game and constantly improving our tactics and employing new ones.
as to other merc corps, we only go after them if it is a legitimate contract, and we tend to prove our worth in those aswell: Neo Spartans - 70% eff.; REPO/Intan (combined contract) 88%
also if you take a look at our contracts, we have had a great number of Lowsec and 0.0 contracts and we do operate NBSI so while things are slow other things tend to die. along with the training operations and providence ops/roams we do i'd say that we stay on contract pretty well, aswell as the fact that noir. has taken many.. shall i say "interesting" contracts just to see what we can do (Hedion comes to mind) tends to point to the contrary of everything you say about us. so get a life and dont make me do maths again :(
now to go dock up and watch tv 
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.29 04:48:00 -
[75]
I would like to take out a contract on Red Hand Squadron.. Can we negotiate on the price?
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Roastedpot
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.29 04:50:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Lana Torrin
I would like to take out a contract on Red Hand Squadron.. Can we negotiate on the price?
contact Alekseyev Karrde to negotiate contracts
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.29 04:52:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Roastedpot
Originally by: Lana Torrin
I would like to take out a contract on Red Hand Squadron.. Can we negotiate on the price?
contact Alekseyev Karrde to negotiate contracts
I'll just want for a bit.. This thread is like fly paper to you guys.
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Taram Caldar
GK inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.29 05:02:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Brea Tharen
3: There are a significant number of people who claim that NOIR is simply fantastic, yet the guy who runs the website/blog quit, as well as FU22 and Taram, so whats that all about. I know I probably wouldn't quit a fantastic, prolific, impressively significant mercenary corp.
Why did I leave?
Many reasons. Biggest one is that I've been doing the merc thing for a long time now and I missed living in 0.0. Even so I never went back because I detest pos warfare and hate trying to defend sov space and absolutely LOATHE huge blue lists. So the huge napfests in 0.0 pretty much guaranteed I wouldn't find my style of PVP in 0.0... so I stayed in empire, lowsec, and the occasional 0.0 contract (which were always my favorite) as a mercenary. No pos warfare (other than knocking down the occasional pos as part of a contract) and no sov nonsense.
However, fighting in empire, while challenging at first just to learn all the tricks people will use on you kind of gets a bit old after a while. Fighting in lowsec is a lot of fun but when you're constantly worried about your sec status you really can't get tooo into it... that and I hate going flashy anyway. So for various reasons I have always... always... preferred 0.0 to empire/lowsec. Not to mention that nothing, absolutely nothing, gets your blood pumping like flying in 0.0 does. Knowing that at any moment you could hit a bubble camp and dying. Knowing that everyone out there is shooting at you... etc.
So when the opportunity came along to join a corporation in 0.0 that shares my feelings (no pos warfare, no sov nonsense, just fun pew pew with very very few blues)? I took the opportunity. I'm glad I did but it was a very tough decision to leave Noir.
As to FU22? I remember when he left: He wanted to do more piracy than he could in Noir. Since Noir. has to be able to operate in all systems, including 1.0, we always had to watch our sec status carefully. FU22 left because he wanted a bit less restrictive PVP than merc life could give him. It's not a big deal really... Merc life isn't for everyone. It takes a LOT more patience than any other form of PVP in the game, bar none. And it's more restrictive than any other form of PVP as well.
As to Ender? I knew he'd most likely leave when I did. He originally joined because of me and I had a feeling that once I was gone it wouldn't be long before he headed back to 0.0 (same reasons as me, though he doesn't mind sov nonsense as much). Why he joined goons? I have no idea... but hey it's a free world... mostly.
Bottom line: Those of us who left left because we wanted to do something else in the game, at least for a while. Who knows... I could wind up back in Noir. one day. I certainly didn't burn any bridges when I left :) The guys are like family to me... leaving was a tough tough decision. But it was something I needed to do, for me.
That's my honest answer. Take it how you will.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.29 05:16:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Taram Caldar
Who knows... I could wind up back in Noir. one day.
Taram cannot resist my booty.
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Venetian Tar
The 0ri
Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.07.29 05:53:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Brea Tharen
hurf blurf full of complete *******s post
Am I the only one that thinks this chick don't like Anal? |
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.29 06:30:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Venetian Tar
Originally by: Brea Tharen
hurf blurf full of complete *******s post
Am I the only one that thinks this chick don't like Anal?
Oh **** I lol'd.
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Kan3r Blaze
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.29 11:51:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Brea Tharen
Originally by: Kan3r Blaze
...stuff I wrote...
Right there, is where "we" established that. In fact I don't use the phrase "chest beating", i took it right from your mates post.
You numpty. If you actually bothered to look into my link Jimer's actually saying "one of the best", not "the best". I was subtly mocking you, whilst having a bit of laugh at myself for posting without doing my normal background checks.
I really need to stay away from here but this morbid curiosity I have keeps pulling me back
Like fly paper indeed.
Noir.
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Scaldo Pwncakes
Gallente
The Hull Miners Union
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.07.29 16:25:00 -
[83]
Confirming that people leave Noir sometimes, so therefore Noir sucks.
Also confirming REPO is still the best.
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imorax
Gallente
Cosmic Cimmerians
Elite Trade Group
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Posted - 2009.07.29 22:12:00 -
[84]
IÆve had some recent dealings with NOIR. and found them to be competent Mercenaries that carry out their work in a mostly professional manner.
They claim in their Evelopedia entry to be ôwidely recognised as one of the best, if not the best, mercenary unit currently operating in the EVE universe today.ö
My biggest suggestion towards them achieving this would be to reduce the small amount of smack aimed at target corps/alliances to zero.
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Defianz
Gallente
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.07.29 22:32:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
Originally by: Taram Caldar
Who knows... I could wind up back in Noir. one day.
Taram cannot resist my booty.
I want your booty
Alek i still want ya babies
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Argo Nix
Minmatar
Ars Technica
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Posted - 2009.10.04 02:35:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Tiny Tove
This just in,
People who won't play eve unless you pay them to might not play eve even if you pay them to, or might just go back to playing eve for free but with different people this time.
Here's Susie with the weather....
I lol'ed -
fake edit: yeah nice necro but seems relevant.
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Argo Nix
CEO - Ars Technica
Providing High Quality Capital BPC Packs
Ars Technica - Capital BPC Shop |
Rock urSocksoff
The Hull Miners Union
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.10.04 05:19:00 -
[87]
Wow, nice necro yo.
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Roastedpot
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.10.04 09:13:00 -
[88]
what ever happened to brea?
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Rock urSocksoff
The Hull Miners Union
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.10.04 09:19:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Roastedpot
what ever happened to brea?
Who cares
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Roastedpot
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.10.04 10:56:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Rock urSocksoff
Originally by: Roastedpot
what ever happened to brea?
Who cares
me?
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Eestaan
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Posted - 2009.10.07 13:46:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Roastedpot
what ever happened to brea?
When people get their own swollen head handed to them, they tend to go away.
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RedSplat
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Posted - 2009.10.07 14:10:00 -
[92]
I have it from respected sources that NOIR. is disbanding to go and play HoN together. 
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.
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Roastedpot
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.10.07 16:05:00 -
[93]
Originally by: RedSplat
I have it from respected sources that NOIR. is disbanding to go and play HoN together.
i actually believe this, it is completely possible.. i say blame mickey simon and lee dalton
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Tierie
Caldari
The Happy Spacemen
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Posted - 2009.10.07 16:08:00 -
[94]
noirDOT play hon? ive found me a new corp!
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FU22
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.10.07 19:30:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Tierie
noirDOT play hon? ive found me a new corp!
We do?
I miss brea, her constant dribble about how terrible Noir are was fun to read
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Grimpak
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.10.07 19:34:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Tierie
noirDOT play hon? ive found me a new corp!
wtf is HoN anyways?
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Dawts
The Order of the EyE
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Posted - 2009.10.07 19:41:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Tierie
noirDOT play hon? ive found me a new corp!
wtf is HoN anyways?
Looks like an official recreation of warcraft 3s DotA, I sucked at DotA, but this game could be fun, hook up a key if you have one.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.10.07 19:46:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Dawts
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Tierie
noirDOT play hon? ive found me a new corp!
wtf is HoN anyways?
Looks like an official recreation of warcraft 3s DotA, I sucked at DotA, but this game could be fun, hook up a key if you have one.
Dwhat?
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.10.07 20:59:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Tierie
noirDOT play hon? ive found me a new corp!
wtf is HoN anyways?
Killboard-Declarations of War Podcast |
Lee Dalton
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.10.07 21:03:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Roastedpot
Originally by: RedSplat
I have it from respected sources that NOIR. is disbanding to go and play HoN together.
i actually believe this, it is completely possible.. i say blame mickey simon and lee dalton
Confirming that Noir. is disbanding and becoming a powerhouse HoN clan. Message "Xtacles" in HoN for recruitment information - please speak Russian to him.
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Dawts
The Order of the EyE
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Posted - 2009.10.07 21:20:00 -
[101]
DotA = Defence of the Ancients, it's a custom warcraft 3 map, that is super famous... for geeks I guess.
You noir. guys are too old... 
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Mickey Simon
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.10.08 01:12:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Lee Dalton
Confirming that Noir. is disbanding and becoming a powerhouse HoN clan. Message "Xtacles" in HoN for recruitment information - please speak Russian to him.
Xtacles is a f-ing terrible HoN player.
His PSR dropped below 1400 last night lol~~~~~~~~~
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Roastedpot
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.10.08 03:05:00 -
[103]
keep that up and he'll be as bad as me!
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Doctor Cal'torien
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Posted - 2009.10.08 03:50:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Taua Roqa
i was hoping to hire them one day, would be a milestone for me :P
/signed
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Roastedpot
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.10.08 14:59:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Doctor Cal'torien
Originally by: Taua Roqa
i was hoping to hire them one day, would be a milestone for me :P
/signed
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Taram Caldar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.10.08 15:35:00 -
[106]
WTF is HON?
Want a sig made? Contact me in game. Click my sig to see samples |
Lee Dalton
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.10.08 15:44:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Mickey Simon
Originally by: Lee Dalton
Confirming that Noir. is disbanding and becoming a powerhouse HoN clan. Message "Xtacles" in HoN for recruitment information - please speak Russian to him.
Xtacles is a f-ing terrible HoN player.
His PSR dropped below 1400 last night lol~~~~~~~~~
YES, XTACLES IS TERRIBLE AT HON.
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FU22
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.10.08 15:56:00 -
[108]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_of_Newerth
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