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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2009.07.27 12:01:00 -
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I'm sorry if this is covered already somewhere, but I couldn't find anything on this subject.
I have become tired of being killed by player pirates and yes it is part of the game I know, but enough is enough and it is time for me to go out and hunt the hunters, which ship is best for this for a player with 12 million sp? also shield based skills. Thanks
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Rachael Abraham
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Posted - 2009.07.27 13:52:00 -
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Greetings:
Sign me up for wanting to know the answer as well (though I have around 1.3m sp).
Thank you.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.27 14:20:00 -
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What i prefer to do is just sit in a belt, kill the npcs and stay at a wreck so it looks like you are looting it. Then really pay attention to yoru directional scanner, to see what is coming. You say shield tanked, are we talking about caldari or minmatar? For caldari their cruisers in general cant really deal with other cruisers solo. But an AML caracal will work fine against all frigates pirates will come with. Just make sure you use your directional scanner and warp out when something larger comes.
With a good drake setup you can kill all other BCs, and especially easy cruisers. As long as they think you are just a carebear happily ratting they will underestimate you.
However while pirates get mainly easy targets, your targets will be well armed and usually prefer outnumbering their target 10 to 1. So you will lose many ships.
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2009.07.27 14:36:00 -
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I can fly a mix of ships but yes mainly mimtari, i was in a mammoth yesterday and got ganked picking up stuff from stations, what I want to do now is find the best ship to train for to go out into lowsec and activley seek and destroy anyone with a skull :)
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oodin
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.27 18:10:00 -
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the ship isnt important. its much more important that you fit faction mods.. i seen many pirates around tama.
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Jarvis Hellstrom
Gallente
The Flying Tigers
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Posted - 2009.07.27 19:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Tereliss Verr
I have become tired of being killed by player pirates and yes it is part of the game I know, but enough is enough and it is time for me to go out and hunt the hunters, which ship is best for this for a player with 12 million sp? also shield based skills. Thanks
Pirates tend to fight in groups (3-4 is pretty typical) so, first of all, you should bring friends.
If you're new to PvP (and it sounds like you are) I would start with something small like a Rifter. Fit it as well as you can and go hunting. Find a pirate frig and pick a fight and run from everything else. Have some fun with it and go in knowing you're going to lose the Rifter. T1 fit it and go cheap and go in a clone with no implants.
With practice and if you can find some solo folks, you'll eventually win a fight or two. This will take a lot less time if you go with 2-3 friends.
Just remember, fly what you can afford to lose and have fun with it. Pirate hunting can be a good time but remember you're on their turf and they know it better and have closer friends. You'll lose a lot (we did too) but you can have a rockin' good time, learn some things and exact a bit of revenge while so doing.
May God stand between you and harm in all the Empty places you must walk
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.27 20:37:00 -
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Tbh i wouldnt use a rifter for anti-piracy work. Sure there are enough pirates flying arround in t1 frigs, but they got more experience than you and have also decent setups. It is a good ship to practice, no doubt there. But to actually kill pirate frigs better use a thrasher. Since any cruiser will kill you easily, it is again important to watch directional scanner. And then i would just do the same, kill the npc in a belt (preferably in the first belt in a not very busy system, but also not quiet system. In a busy system you will just get too many pirates in cruisers, in a quiet system you wont get any), might be a little problem in thrasher when there is a NPC BS, but there arent that many of them in low sec anyway. Then just hang arround at a wreck untill pirate frig turns up. As long as he thinks you are ratting he will happily attack you in his frig, and a thrasher should be able to kill a rifter without problems.
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EnragedChipmunk
Blood Phage Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.28 02:58:00 -
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Sign me up as well, we need to get these pirates under control. Everyone needs to fit their ships the best they can (even if better is more expensive), and charge into low sec against these scum. |
navojnor
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Posted - 2009.07.28 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: oodin
the ship isnt important. its much more important that you fit faction mods.. i seen many pirates around tama.
ROFL, and I guess you recomend he gets a navy issue ship too cuz that would be best for taking on BYDI huh?
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oodin
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.28 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: navojnor
Originally by: oodin
the ship isnt important. its much more important that you fit faction mods.. i seen many pirates around tama.
ROFL, and I guess you recomend he gets a navy issue ship too cuz that would be best for taking on BYDI huh?
only if he plans to eject 
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2009.07.28 08:09:00 -
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Edited by: Tereliss Verr on 28/07/2009 08:10:10
Lol thank you so called pirate s****for the homour, I don't mind getting blown up in a hauler, it was my own dumb fault, but the Pirate hunting sounds like fun and seems to me to be the best way to learn PvP, as for the faction and officer fits, I will deffo come in a officer fitted nightmare then!!!!! yeah like hell i will, but the rifter and thrasher option looks like a good place to start out.
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2009.07.28 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: EnragedChipmunk
Sign me up as well, we need to get these pirates under control. Everyone needs to fit their ships the best they can (even if better is more expensive), and charge into low sec against these scum.
Lol at this 
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Kaz Toffy
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.28 08:42:00 -
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You know the best thing is that so called pirate hunters or "antipirates" usually end up pretty soon as pirates themselves...
so welcome to the dark side 
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2009.07.28 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kaz Toffy
You know the best thing is that so called pirate hunters or "antipirates" usually end up pretty soon as pirates themselves...
so welcome to the dark side
Mwaaarh Hazzar!!!
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Andracin
Minmatar
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.28 11:17:00 -
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The best thing to do (besides come back in an officer fit faction battleship ) is to cuss under your breath and lick your wounds. Don't take getting ganked personal, just accept it as the price of low sec life you clicked the ok to jump warning sign to get in.
If your really hell bent on killing people like me in a frigate or destroyer come to Onatoh and ask for a 1v1. Otherwise your pretty much going to need to bring some mates because most pirates roll in small gangs 3-4 up to 20+ man gangs and your not going to know what hit you until your back in the station.
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2009.07.28 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Andracin
The best thing to do (besides come back in an officer fit faction battleship ) is to cuss under your breath and lick your wounds. Don't take getting ganked personal, just accept it as the price of low sec life you clicked the ok to jump warning sign to get in.
If your really hell bent on killing people like me in a frigate or destroyer come to Onatoh and ask for a 1v1. Otherwise your pretty much going to need to bring some mates because most pirates roll in small gangs 3-4 up to 20+ man gangs and your not going to know what hit you until your back in the station.
Hey it's all fun at the end of the day, the only reason I want to hunt pirates is that I feel more morally comfortable doing so, lame you may say but that's just me.
I will mostly die I know but will be throwing myself at you all as much as I can, yes I know green goo aplenty for me lol
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Jones Bones
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.28 12:06:00 -
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Get some friends together and go out in T1 fit T1 frigs/cruisers. The costs are low and the experience you gain is key. Practice using different types of ewar and different combat strategies. Remember to always fit a point (warp disruptor/scrambler).
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2009.07.28 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jones Bones
Get some friends together and go out in T1 fit T1 frigs/cruisers. The costs are low and the experience you gain is key. Practice using different types of ewar and different combat strategies. Remember to always fit a point (warp disruptor/scrambler).
Cool thanks, I got ganked by i think 2x harbingers, I was undocking and got rammed into the station to nock me off alignment, great tactic, one I will note down
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Jarvis Hellstrom
Gallente
The Flying Tigers
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Posted - 2009.07.28 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Tbh i wouldnt use a rifter for anti-piracy work. Sure there are enough pirates flying arround in t1 frigs, but they got more experience than you and have also decent setups. It is a good ship to practice, no doubt there. But to actually kill pirate frigs better use a thrasher.
Could work. Conventional wisdom is that Destroyers can be hard to fly. Certainly in PvE I've had a fairly annoying time with them although I love the Catalyst as a ship.
They're cheap enough - perhaps I should try PvPing in one someday.
May God stand between you and harm in all the Empty places you must walk
(Old Egyptian Blessing) |
Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2009.07.28 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jarvis Hellstrom
Originally by: Furb Killer
Tbh i wouldnt use a rifter for anti-piracy work. Sure there are enough pirates flying arround in t1 frigs, but they got more experience than you and have also decent setups. It is a good ship to practice, no doubt there. But to actually kill pirate frigs better use a thrasher.
Could work. Conventional wisdom is that Destroyers can be hard to fly. Certainly in PvE I've had a fairly annoying time with them although I love the Catalyst as a ship.
They're cheap enough - perhaps I should try PvPing in one someday.
I'm sure and expect to be corrected if I am wrong, but I have read and heard that the rifter is a deadly ship if you have the skills to fly it properly, I make them (like it's hard too!!) so a total throw away ship. I'm feeling the change too the dark side coming 
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inyreye
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.28 19:49:00 -
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go get emmm!!
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Just fearless
Caldari
The Necromongers
Clandestine Encounters
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:13:00 -
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haha join our corp u can hunt pirates as u become one =0 only true way to kill them is with a bunch of carebears or join a pirate corp. =) so hit us up and come hunting with us
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2009.07.29 08:16:00 -
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Thanks for the invite, but I'm still a Empire Carebear at heart for now, i will make a few trips now and again into lowsec areas and hunt, but I guess now from being on here I'm going to be KOS lol
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Nikolay Tesla
Minmatar
Nomadic Angels
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Posted - 2009.07.29 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: oodin
the ship isnt important. its much more important that you fit faction mods.. i seen many pirates around tama.
Yeah, you can't beat pirates without faction mods. No way in hell without faction mods.
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2009.07.29 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolay Tesla
Originally by: oodin
the ship isnt important. its much more important that you fit faction mods.. i seen many pirates around tama.
Yeah, you can't beat pirates without faction mods. No way in hell without faction mods.
Hehehe your so funny
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Sakika
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Posted - 2009.07.29 10:49:00 -
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Fly what you can afford to lose and try to stay out of station battles, best to bait at a planet or belt and keep your eye on your directional scanner, it is literally the most important piece of kit in your armory in low sec.
One trick is to pick a few systems you know are frequented by flashies and make off grid bookmarks on gates, belts and planets. They will tend to locate you with their directional scanner and once they have you at a celestial on 5 degrees they will warp to 0. This then gives you the time to decide whether to warp in and engage, remember to cycle your disrupt/scram as you land.
Also learn the usual bait ships, i.e. maller, drake etc.
Most importantly have fun and dont forget to grab the pods for nice bounties and possible ransoms.
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Mikkel 490
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Posted - 2009.07.29 11:19:00 -
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Asakai is always active I believe. Take a trip down there I've had a lot of succes going there
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2009.07.29 11:50:00 -
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Cool thanks guys
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Jarvis Hellstrom
Gallente
The Flying Tigers
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Posted - 2009.07.29 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tereliss Verr
I'm sure and expect to be corrected if I am wrong, but I have read and heard that the rifter is a deadly ship if you have the skills to fly it properly, I make them (like it's hard too!!) so a total throw away ship. I'm feeling the change too the dark side coming
Quite probably the best T1 Frigate in the game and properly fit they are very very deadly.
I know what you mean about building them - I do too on those rare occasions I can be bothered to visit my industrial base...
May God stand between you and harm in all the Empty places you must walk
(Old Egyptian Blessing) |
Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2009.07.29 15:21:00 -
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So rifter production now in overdrive
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