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Intigo
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:04:00 -
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Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:wow I'm sorry I didn't memorize your post, you should really take a chill pill bro
Wow. How can you honestly say that when you've completely ignored the part where we've sent multiple emails to the EVETV email address only to get zero response?
We've done everything in our power to be completely transparent, yet CCP pretends we have not.
LooknSee wrote:Ashley Judd wrote:CCP has made their call. I won't get in to whether or not is was the right one, or how it was handled.
The real sticking point here is they are forced to make a judgement call on something that is entirely unsupported in game. The tournament in no way reflects the rest of Eve. They are separate entities. CCP doesn't seem to understand their own creation.
If everyone's favorite company was really interested in an epic, competitive tournament with little to no backroom deals and metagaming, they could easily introduce a pvp arena system. Until then, the AT will always remain the butt of e-sport jokes. No one has said you are one entity. What CCP is saying is that as far as the AT is concerned the two of you are either acting as if you are one entity or giving the perception of the same. There's a difference there. And after the shenanigans last year, whoever is running your teams should have had the common sense to avoid even the remotest suggestion of collusion. They didn't, and now two entire alliances are suffering for it. You can blame CCP all you want, but at the end of the day it was your own leaderships that put you in this position, not CCP.
The same leadership that reached out to CCP many months ago and trusted in the single response we got from a Senior GM? I am not surprised that the Senior GM & the tournament team was not in contact with one another, but the ONLY response we got from any CCP entity was from that Senior GM despite sending 2 emails to the EVETV address which were completely ignored.
Even though Loxy acknowledged that such emails would be addressed after the signup process was through, they never were. We had one response from a CCP entity to trust in and it was completely ignored by the tournament team, taking out both teams in the process. |
Intigo
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:21:00 -
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They may have ignored your emails, but I somehow doubt they banned you from the fansite program after ignoring you even though you sent multiple emails that were transparent in what you wanted to do with your website. |
Intigo
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Posted - 2012.05.26 08:46:00 -
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Vladimir Norkoff wrote:Lucas Quaan wrote:Then maybe they should have started testing separately until they got an answer instead of doing something all signs pointed to would actually be against the rules. Except they already had a "senior" GM's statement that sharing info and sparring was totally legit. In retrospect you are absolutely correct. Congrats on your 20/20 hindsight btw. Now that everyone knows that a GM's statement means absolutely nothing, nobody in their right mind would have made the choice to start testing as a combined group. Funny thing is, that for the past 9 years or so we have been made to believe (by CCP amusingly enough) that a GM's statement can be taken as fact. Especially a senior GM's since they really know their ****. So yeah, we can totally say "you shoulda known". But given the info they had, it seems reasonable enough for them to go ahead with testing. Especially when the Alliance Team was apparently not going to make an effort to reply to emails/petitions.
HYDRA is clearly at fault for thinking Senior GMs could be trusted.
And I applaud CCP for their excellent communication with us on this matter. It's great to see that the Alliance Tournament team is always ready to respond to questions posed by competitors. |
Intigo
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Posted - 2012.05.26 16:32:00 -
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Another topic locked?
And the last post by Sreegs has him ignoring my questions yet again only to respond with "wow": https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1369261#post1369261
Excellent work, Sreegs - thanks for answering the questions I gave you when you quoted my posts.
Poetic Stanziel wrote:Jovan Geldon wrote:They were in the same corp on Singularity not TQ, you mouth breather Same difference. Two alliances, one team.
Your blog on this matter already showed how little you know about this subject. You should really not comment on these things when you write stuff like this on your blog (in regards to AT IX):
Quote:One alliance, Hydra Reloaded, decided to form another alliance, Outbreak, so that they could field two teams.
You do not have the faintest clue what you are talking about. Outbreak has been around for a LONG time.
"We discussed forming 1 (ONE) corporation to make these training in wormholes possible; if we wouldnt merge, 4th would have been forced to spend days and days to setup their own pos, to do this."
2 separate teams considered doing the same thing HYDRA & Outbreak did - how can you justify banning 2 teams who thought it was within the rules? |
Intigo
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Posted - 2012.05.27 06:20:00 -
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Raqn Paudeen wrote:The reason Sreegs doesn't answer is because he can't. RvB, people who have no real chance of winning, are able to get in contact with the ATX team and sort out their issue quickly. Meanwhile the champions of ATIX are unable to get any form of response from the ATX team whilst the ATX team are actively monitoring the team. That sounds more than a bit strange to me personally. Honestly though, the damage is done now. CCP are much too stubborn to admit they may have made mistakes and they don't want to lose face by unbanning Hydra or Outbreak. Not that they would want to unban either party; they've caused them grief both last year and this year.
Even if he has no response it would be nice of him to just try. The only thing he has done so far is repeat "read the stickies" over and over.
Anyway, since the link doesn't work and apparently linking to eve-search is delete-worthy: http://i.imgur.com/deyvJ.png
Was it always cause for deletion to link to eve-search? The heavy-handed moderation put in place by CCP on this forum would be nice to have an explanation for.
"We discussed forming 1 (ONE) corporation to make these training in wormholes possible; if we wouldnt merge, 4th would have been forced to spend days and days to setup their own pos, to do this."
2 separate teams considered doing the same thing HYDRA & Outbreak did - how can you justify banning 2 teams who thought it was within the rules? |
Intigo
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Posted - 2012.06.07 19:41:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:Cody Zamorah wrote:xxzartanxx wrote:
they didnt win, the match was fixed.
And how about all those other matches that eventually led to the finals? Also fixed? That's not the point, the point is it made it obvious that they entered two teams to increase the chances of winning. I honestly don't think they meant or meet up in the finals, and they didn't mean to have the spotlight on them. Poor guys, if only they had pulled off that last match. I really don't think they planned to both make it.
Why are you so clueless?
http://www.failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?2237-Alliance-Tournament-9-The-Hydra-and-0utbreak-Perspective
Do some reading, for your own good.
"We discussed forming 1 (ONE) corporation to make these training in wormholes possible; if we wouldnt merge, 4th would have been forced to spend days and days to setup their own pos, to do this."
2 separate teams considered doing the same thing HYDRA & Outbreak did - how can you justify banning 2 teams who thought it was within the rules? |
Intigo
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:45:00 -
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Proxay wrote:The tournament is so far detracted from 'real' EVE PVP it's hilarious.
I don't know why anyone gives so much of a **** about it.
I'm happy to participate and theory-craft and what-ever else. But **** crying like a child, night after day because some assholes kick me out of this pretend competition.
The real game is on Tranq, go do what you blokes are good at.
The real game is too easy.
"We discussed forming 1 (ONE) corporation to make these training in wormholes possible; if we wouldnt merge, 4th would have been forced to spend days and days to setup their own pos, to do this."
2 separate teams considered doing the same thing HYDRA & Outbreak did - how can you justify banning 2 teams who thought it was within the rules? |
Intigo
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Posted - 2012.06.11 21:29:00 -
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Duncan Tanner wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Duncan Tanner wrote:Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Intigo wrote:
The real game is too easy.
Although , from what I hear, setting up multiple poses is pretty damn difficult  lol CCP and its player base honestly deserve each other. Duncan your bitter is showing, pull your skirt down. Thanks for the insight, I wasn't aware I was making an unpleasant post. P.S. J145440 was as easy as J150754, perhaps you should be more concerned about keeping your own skirt down.
Daaayuuuum~
"We discussed forming 1 (ONE) corporation to make these training in wormholes possible; if we wouldnt merge, 4th would have been forced to spend days and days to setup their own pos, to do this."
2 separate teams considered doing the same thing HYDRA & Outbreak did - how can you justify banning 2 teams who thought it was within the rules? |
Intigo
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Posted - 2012.06.12 19:20:00 -
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Ban teams for being too good at the game.
"We discussed forming 1 (ONE) corporation to make these training in wormholes possible; if we wouldnt merge, 4th would have been forced to spend days and days to setup their own pos, to do this."
2 separate teams considered doing the same thing HYDRA & Outbreak did - how can you justify banning 2 teams who thought it was within the rules? |
Intigo
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Posted - 2012.06.17 21:56:00 -
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Not much reason to play a game run by the likes of CCP. :)
"We discussed forming 1 (ONE) corporation to make these training in wormholes possible; if we wouldnt merge, 4th would have been forced to spend days and days to setup their own pos, to do this."
2 separate teams considered doing the same thing HYDRA & Outbreak did - how can you justify banning 2 teams who thought it was within the rules? |
Intigo
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Posted - 2012.06.18 23:51:00 -
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Mr Rive wrote:Maybe if HYDRA pilots hadn't reacted in such a way and instead had been a bit more respectable, then the community would have gotten behind you and you would be participating in some way.
Haha, are you kidding me? We presented the facts, were completely ignored by CCP on the important issues (emails never answered and a GM response that was deemed 'invalid'). There is no way there would have been any "community backing", the EVE community would rather just have the drama. And even if there had been it would have made no difference to CCP as they were slighted from last year and was just looking for an excuse, community backing or not.
Are you honestly this naive or is this just your EVE-O forum poastin' shinin' through?
"We discussed forming 1 (ONE) corporation to make these training in wormholes possible; if we wouldnt merge, 4th would have been forced to spend days and days to setup their own pos, to do this."
2 separate teams considered doing the same thing HYDRA & Outbreak did - how can you justify banning 2 teams who thought it was within the rules? |
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