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LooknSee
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Posted - 2012.05.25 03:53:00 -
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Ashley Judd wrote:CCP has made their call. I won't get in to whether or not is was the right one, or how it was handled.
The real sticking point here is they are forced to make a judgement call on something that is entirely unsupported in game. The tournament in no way reflects the rest of Eve. They are separate entities. CCP doesn't seem to understand their own creation.
If everyone's favorite company was really interested in an epic, competitive tournament with little to no backroom deals and metagaming, they could easily introduce a pvp arena system. Until then, the AT will always remain the butt of e-sport jokes.
No one has said you are one entity. What CCP is saying is that as far as the AT is concerned the two of you are either acting as if you are one entity or giving the perception of the same. There's a difference there. And after the shenanigans last year, whoever is running your teams should have had the common sense to avoid even the remotest suggestion of collusion. They didn't, and now two entire alliances are suffering for it. You can blame CCP all you want, but at the end of the day it was your own leaderships that put you in this position, not CCP. |
LooknSee
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:19:00 -
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Intigo wrote:The same leadership that reached out to CCP many months ago and trusted in the single response we got from a Senior GM? I am not surprised that the Senior GM & the tournament team was not in contact with one another, but the ONLY response we got from any CCP entity was from that Senior GM despite sending 2 emails to the EVETV address which were completely ignored.
Even though Loxy acknowledged that such emails would be addressed after the signup process was through, they never were. We had one response from a CCP entity to trust in and it was completely ignored by the tournament team, taking out both teams in the process.
Seriously? Unless you're a complete noob you know better (not 'should know better', but definitively 'know better') than to put any faith into a GM response. And regardless of what a GM said, common sense alone should have been enough to tell you guys to avoid any semblance of collusion.
But hey, don't take my word for it--just look at the consequences. As far as CCP ignoring mails, I quite assure you you're nothing special in that regard: they ignored my mails for over a month regarding the fansite program. |
LooknSee
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:28:00 -
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Intigo wrote:They may have ignored your emails, but I somehow doubt they banned you from the fansite program after ignoring you even though you sent multiple emails that were transparent in what you wanted to do with your website.
They didn't have to; I let the account expire. |
LooknSee
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:50:00 -
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Raimo wrote:Yep, some people seem to forget that the Hydra and Outbreak alliance team members now being shat on are also 50 or so of CCP's customers, many whom have provided CCP in the range of 100+ monthly subs each... And willingly entertained their other customers as well as providing vast amounts of marketing material for free while paying even more for the priviledge... Oh dear.
While there will always be some contrarians, I'd hazard a guess that most spectators did not consider what they saw in last year's final 'entertainment'. I'd hazard another guess and say rigged tournies aren't the sort of free marketing material CCP is looking for from its players. Oh dear. |
LooknSee
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:11:00 -
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Raimo wrote:I dunno, a few 100k's of youtube views on just the AT videos of said teams, "emergent gameplay" "metagaming" quite visible in CCP marketing etc. Most people I know of originally heard of EVE due to one of the many scam stories or other behind-the-scenes- shenanigans like the AT9 final ended up to be...
Rightly or wrongly, I'm inclined to believe there's a difference in the way people view normal eve gameplay vs something advertised as a tournament. The word itself carries the connotation of fair play and therefore the typical passerby would expect to see fair play. Of course metagaming is nothing new to the alliance tournaments (or even real life tournaments, for that matter), but generally participants have the common sense to refrain from overly advertising it. The blatant display last year was offensive to people that expected fair play, which was good for a lot of laughs by some but carried obvious consequences.
Do you really think yours were the first teams in something like 7ish years of alliance tournaments to have the ability to do that? No, yours were simply the first that was, frankly, dumb enough to advertise it for all to see. Killed the goose that laid the golden egg. |
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